Man who firebombed a demonstration in Colorado, killing 1, is sentenced to life in prison

The problem with this framing is that it treats Zionism as if it was purely a religious project, when a huge part of Zionism was actually secular nationalism. Early Zionist leaders were often secular or even atheist Jews responding to centuries of persecution, pogroms, and exclusion in Europe and the Middle East. Jews didn’t suddenly invent a connection to the land in the 1900s because of religion…there had been continuous Jewish presence there for thousands of years, even after expulsions and conquests. Also, saying diaspora Jews had “less claim” than Palestinians gets morally messy fast. Most people don’t apply that standard to any other displaced ethnic group. Nobody says Armenians in diaspora stopped being Armenian after centuries, or that indigenous groups lose identity if they were forcibly scattered. Jews maintained language, culture, religion, and identity tied specifically to that land for literally millennia. And Palestinians absolutely have a real attachment and claim too. That’s why the conflict is tragic. Two groups with legitimate historical ties ended up competing over the same territory. But acknowledging Jewish indigeneity and national identity is not the same thing as endorsing every action of the Israeli government. The India comparison also kind of breaks down because Hindu nationalism is the majority religion dominating minorities inside an already established state. Zionism emerged from Jews being a stateless minority almost everywhere on earth. Those are very different historical situations. And the British boundary argument leaves out that Jews didn’t just arrive because Britain randomly drew lines on a map. There were already Jewish communities there, plus large waves of legal immigration and land purchases before 1948. You can criticize specific expulsions, settlements, or policies without rewriting the entire Jewish historical connection to the region as some colonial fantasy invented out of religion.

👨 "Did you hear about what Robert Bowers did?" DeadEyedCretin 👴" What about what Israel did?" 🤔😂

No, bigots are. If Israel being in the news is fueling your antisemitism, you’re already just a bigoted POS to begin with.

Like watching turds float to the surface.

You can apply that same mentality to several sovereign states that are embroiled in conflicts currently.

Thank you for providing an example to my words.

Blaming the targets of bigotry on the weaponization of the accusation of bigotry serves only to excuse bigots. I dont support illegal settlements or the killing of innocent people, yet I experience antisemitism from people who hide behind the claim that theyre just opposing genocide. The fact is, the propalestinian movement has a pretty terrible track record of policing actual antisemitism within its ranks, and your narrative that thats somehow my fault is providing further cover for the actual antisemites within your movement's midst. Double standards also reveal prejudice and bias. So much focus is put on Israeli influence campaign while the same groups simultaneously ignore the documented history of Qatar's illegal funneling of money into western universities to influence how the conflict is taught, or Irans documented wide use of bot farms and social media influencing campaigns. The thing is, with the broader Arab-Israeli conflict and most other major conflicts, both sides are trying to manipulate amd influence public opinion. The fact that people think that one side and its supporters are the only ones attempting to influence public opinion through deception reveals underlying biases that precede that attempt at influence. You're still just providing cover for bigots. The answer to bigotry is to call out bigots, no questions asked, no equivocation, no whataboutism. That is the reaction the left has demanded for all bigotry it has opposed until it came to Jews.

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From what I can tell the support for the current war in Gaza is rabid amongst the Israeli nationals

Apparently one cant bc every criticism of the Israeli government is called antisemitic.

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