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shlupdedoodle Sep 21, 2015 +2691

Why do things feel so static recently? As an addict, waking up in the morning to check Listnook I feel like you're holding back the drug here.

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Mart2d2 Sep 21, 2015 +1748

I don't really know, but I'll look into it. Can you PM me some more details. EDIT: I've talked with the team (who knew more about this) and this is what /u/umbrae had to say: > This meme has been incredibly hard to kill, but whatever you're perceiving is almost certainly imaginary in terms of change to the site. Software wise, absolutely nothing has changed. There was a short period of time where we [made a change](https://www.listnook.com/r/changelog/comments/3g6ghn/listnook_change_the_scores_of_extremelypopular/) that made the velocity of the front page slower, but we [reverted that weeks ago](https://www.listnook.com/r/changelog/comments/3inm1c/listnook_change_the_increase_to_the_soft_cap_on/) and all algorithms that determine hotness are exactly as they were. Nothing has changed. > What's probably happening is that the initial change spawned a bit of a meme and that we're all party to some sort of cognitive bias that is snowballing, even though the change was reverted long ago. It also may be entirely true that the front page *is* too slow, but that it *always has been* too slow, and we're only now noticing it. So we'll look at front page velocity either way.

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sarcasticorange Sep 22, 2015 +1291

It seems like there are two types of user - one that checks in once or twice and wants to see what is happening today. For those, the slower updates are good so they don't miss big stuff. Then there are others that are refreshing hourly for updates. Sometimes those users are the same people but are busier one day and have more time for Listnook the next. Perhaps it would be good to have both "Hot today" and "Hot Now" buttons with varying speed algorithms.

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rhoffman12 Sep 22, 2015 +171

Fixing the "Rising" view would solve this problem perfectly. It's always just come across as a weird view of "new" for me though. If they would make it live up to its name, that would be great. I wonder if they could improve the rising results by paying attention to comment rates, not just the vote timers. A newer, less upvoted post with a really active discussion deserves some kind of mention as well.

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deyv Sep 22, 2015 +51

Listnook could really use an intelligent bumping system. The lack thereof has always bugged me. The system I always wanted to see would analyse the rate at which new comments get posted, the level of diversity of usernames who comment (to prevent to excessive self bumping), and the word count in a comment (to discourage one word, canned replies). Furthermore the last bit of the algorithm should analyze for copy pasta gags. This algorithm could be used not only to order posts on the front page, but also to order threads within a post. That way, users could be steered to mix of threads could both use more attention and threads that have the most active ongoing dialogue. That would help users avoid the "came to the thread too late" problem.

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billytheskidd Sep 22, 2015 +11

this is actually a really solid idea that i support. you seem to have really thought this out. i don't know very much about how all this works, so i guess i'm just saying i'm really impressed with how you have been able to verbalize what i feel in a relevant way. i would love to see these things implemented.

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tobieapb Sep 22, 2015 +5

This is an excellent suggestion. I once posted a thread in a sub with 181 people currently there. It got 67 comments (no downvotes on the comments), but the post itself got no upvotes. It was on the third page of that sublistnook, but it had more comments than any othe the other posts in there, which seemed weird. Why wouldn't "activity" take into account comment rates!?

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atomicthumbs Sep 22, 2015 +32

I wish there was an easier way to scroll back through Listnook - like, being able to select the front page from past days. I also wish there was an easier way to archive entire sublistnooks; as it stands, you can't (for instance) pull down the entirety of /r/corgi, since (from what I've heard) it stops at 1000 posts, no matter what view you use. So ~~many dog pictures,~~ much history, lost like tears in the rain.

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Ribose5 Sep 22, 2015 +4

I've noticed that the problem is more general than that. It won't load more than a certain number of user page results (1000?), comments (in certain cases, especially in several third-party apps), and as you say, posts (1000 I'm sure). It makes looking for old comments of *my own* hard to re-find when I want to reference something I've commented on but vaguely remember. I've resorted to making a file on my computer of a link to every comment I've ever written (back to a certain point) so I can Ctrl+F that to find old responses and, more relevant, the associated post even after it falls off the bottom. I seem to encounter a lot of times when I want to reference something I saw several months ago and all I can remember is that I certainly posted a comment in a thread under that post.

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jsmooth7 Sep 22, 2015 +98

I think that's what "Rising" is supposed to be. New, fresh posts that are on track to make the front page. Too bad it doesn't work very well at all.

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[deleted] Sep 22, 2015 +40

>hourly Yeah totally, I'm definitely not refreshing every 15 minutes. Pffft.

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1RedOne Sep 22, 2015 +5

This is me. Some times I'll have no time for listnook for a week or more. Then other times, I'll have a bit of spare time and will be hitting f5 like a morphine addict. While we're talking things we'd love, how about new time slices. Sometimes I want to see everything hot between a month and six months ago or maybe what was hot two years ago. The current sorts leave a bit to be desired. And since I know how listnook handles time (since I'm writing a PowerShell listnook module and have gone deep into the api) I know it's possible. B

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iRaphael Sep 22, 2015 +13

> Hot today https://www.listnook.com/top/?sort=top&t=day > Hot now https://www.listnook.com

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MustacheEmperor Sep 21, 2015 +1619

I don't know that I have anything concrete to chip in, but I agree that the site seems slower to change lately. It seems like the same posts stay on top for longer, and that when I used to be able to check back at listnook a few times a day and see all new content, now I'm just hunting for which links aren't blue by afternoon. I know there's been some changes to the posting algorithm, and it does seem better than it was when everyone was pissed about it a few weeks ago.

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DrAminove Sep 21, 2015 +249

The average post in the top 25 in /r/all now has 5000 points, as opposed to couple weeks where it was around 3000. Clearly something major was changed in the vote counting algorithm. The implication is that popular posts from the big sublistnooks stay on top longer and it's harder for the smaller sublistnooks to compete for space on your front page.

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KkblowinKk Sep 21, 2015 +225

No it's not a site issue, it's just 'a bit of a meme.' -/u/Mart2d2 -/u/umbrae

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +41

I completely agree! I've noticed this over the last few months. I just figured it was me getting on Listnook more often, but stuff definitely didn't stay on the front couple of pages for as long a year or two ago (for instance). I'm glad I'm not just going crazy. (well, probably am, but not over this.) edit: during the summer, I thought the stagnation was because school was out of session. I thought that surely once all the young'uns went back to school they also spend more time on listnook and keep this fresher. It hasn't really happened though.

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Crysalim Sep 21, 2015 +63

In a previous AMA from one of the staff they noted that top posts stay around longer now - they can accrue more votes and will stay on the front page. I agree with you on the effect it has had; it's tougher to find good, high rated posts. What's more is that it makes the site *look* better from the outside, because posts seem like they have been getting more votes lately, creating the illusion that for some reason more people have been participating. The stagnation it is causing kind of sucks when trying to hunt new content, though.

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InEnduringGrowStrong Sep 21, 2015 +49

"What's hot" is basically useless now. In every thread, it's like visiting a ghost town. Here I am refreshing my "what's hot" front page and it keeps showing all purple links, all from 3-5 hours ago. About 5 hours from now, I'll get a link from a 8h old thread that's been dead for 4h..

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jstrydor Sep 21, 2015 +127

I have a theory that the average Listnook user has topped out their dopamine levels for the site. Just as an addict maxes out on Vicodin and has to move on to heroin, it's only a matter of time before we collectively migrate onto harder ~~drugs~~ sites. edit:spelling :/

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Elidor Sep 21, 2015 +7

It's funny, but it's also true. I have come to realize I have a Listnook problem. I mean really. I'm spending way too much time chasing the dopamine dragon here. I need to get up and go outside. Can someone come to my house and pry me off of here? Just read the top posts on /r/all to me and I'll follow quietly.

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MustacheEmperor Sep 21, 2015 +101

Good call. I will try heroin and report back.

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Rooonaldooo99 Sep 21, 2015 +23

> edit:spelling :/ Why am I not surprised.

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dainternets Sep 21, 2015 +15

I feel like people have been talking about this for a month and maybe 2 weeks ago a mod stated they were looking into if it was an actual occurrence or some freak shared perception. I think that people are still making this assessment shows it's not a shared perception. I think a mod made a statement long the lines that they had changed some things so posts would stay on the front page longer but I think they're making them stay too much. Or we're just on more addicted end of the user bellcurve and the front page refresh rate is actually perfect for the vast majority of users. Edit: So mods say they reverted the algorithm so who knows why everyone feels like content is moving slower [Mod comment from a month ago](https://www.listnook.com/r/pics/comments/3igtlt/whatever_you_hear_or_read_today_try_not_to_learn/cugk8kn) [post about initial change to algorithm](https://www.listnook.com/r/changelog/comments/3g6ghn/listnook_change_the_scores_of_extremelypopular/)

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Ryche Sep 22, 2015 +117

The font page isn't changing as fast. On Sept. 3, which if you will remember is the day that Kim Davis was jailed for contempt and Tom Brady won his appeal I took screenshots of the front page of /r/all to illustrate that the major news was not reaching the front page for hours. These screenshots were taken at 1:10 PM CST and each of the top posts had been there for 4-5 hours but there was no sign of the two major stories that occurred that day. I hope these help to illustrate the problem. [Image 1](https://imgur.com/DKBI3J4) [Image 2](https://imgur.com/NsVr1rs)

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I_am_Infected Sep 21, 2015 +189

It just seems that the same posts are on the front page for entirely too long. I used to be able to just check the front page and always have something new to look at but for quite some time now the same posts I've looked at hours and hours ago are still there with nothing new popping up. To the point where I'll go to bed after going through the front page, wake up the next morning and the same posts I've already gone through are still there 6-8 hours later. As other people have said I don't have anything concrete to offer you but as someone who's been on listnook over different accounts over the years it's definitely changed.

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shike5 Sep 22, 2015 +10

This is exactly what I observe, too. I go to bed at 11pm, wake up, read Listnook at 6am. A lot of the same posts are still at the top. Was not like this a month ago. Then I would wake up to mostly new posts.

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FurbyFubar Sep 22, 2015 +44

> What's probably happening is that the initial change spawned a bit of a meme and that we're all party to some sort of cognitive bias that is snowballing, even though the change was reverted long ago. Uh, but I *first* thought this just a few days ago, and I'm pretty sure I've *not* seen any meta thread or comments here about this. I mean, of course you have plenty of users so I could be one of the few random ones to think this even though it's not the case, but from my side something feels change. Since I believe you in saying you have not changed the algorithm for what's hot, what else can have changed? Do you have a different number of users upvoting things, possibly across a wider range of time zones? Or is there a big change in the number of links being submitted? The real data that could tell us if something IS changed somehow is the number of links that hit the front page now compared to say a year ago. Is this data you have and could take a look at?

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ShustOne Sep 21, 2015 +95

I used to come here 10+ times a day because the content was constantly moving. Now I come 1-2 times and I still see the same content. The last few breaking news articles I've gotten from Twitter and Facebook before I ever saw them here. Maybe they reverted the algorithm but something's up.

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Bingo-Bango-Bong-o Sep 22, 2015 +20

Bingo. This is where I shake my head and say "No, I'm not just imagining things". I used to get my news from Listnook because any decently big stories would be on the front page instantly, many times before major news sites could catch it. That is simply not the case anymore. I usually hear about a story from my friends who check Google news ,etc, come to Listnook, look around, give up and move to more traditional news sites to find out what's going on.

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EatTheBiscuitSam Sep 22, 2015 +5

Money What do you think happened with all the drama of the management and other shit that has happened in the past few months. I don't know for sure but this feels about the same way Digg shot itself. Listnook just didn't announce it like Digg and is migrating slower but it seams to be getting to the same place. The entities that are paying want more exposure for the money so certain posts are staying up longer. It will get way worse in the coming months as the US political c*** starts flying and more of the content is paid for. The user base knows and will hit a certain point and Listnook will crash, but that won't matter since the upper management will have already made it's money and will move on to something else. There might be a small chance that after the big time advertising money grab is over they might revert back to try and save Listnook but I doubt it.

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mcsher Sep 21, 2015 +286

News not rising fast enough (usually few hours old by the time it reaches FP), purple FP links in the morning (links staying FP for too long) are the main complaints I've heard around the community

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phauxtoe Sep 21, 2015 +54

Seriously though. 90% of what's on the front in the morning is still there in the evening night, for me, at least. Whereas [what seems like] not long ago there could be a whole slew of new content on the front by the end of the day. Something has changed, and it might have to do with the amount of people and bots now interacting with the front just enough to keep things static. I might blame the ever increasing popularity of listnook itself.

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DeadSeaGulls Sep 21, 2015 +124

How long it takes news to rise is by far the biggest issue to me. So many times I heard about serious issues here on listnook first, but now, I'm seeing people post about it on my facebook feed or on major news sites first. By the time it shows up on listnook, it's been covered on television.

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +47

It's also too late to join into a conversation on much of anything that won't just get lost in the abyss.

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drchazz Sep 21, 2015 +391

I've been here over 5 years. I have always loved regularly checking listnook. For the past few months, I've begun to think "why bother" because it's still going to be the same stuff I saw an hour ago.

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port53 Sep 21, 2015 +32

Articles that are 20 hours old are becoming typical now, yet, hiding them manually always brings up fresh links, they're just not being presented as quickly as before. Edit: Somewhat ironically, this very post is still sitting at the top (linke #4) of my front page some 17 hours later. The next oldest link is only 7 hours.

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effedup Sep 21, 2015 +16

Same here, been here 8 years and now I'm wondering what the next site is I should be going to for fresh content.

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Wariya Sep 21, 2015 +64

I've been listnooking for a long time and I never check the site anymore because every day when I check it in the morning? It still has the same things on the front page as the day and night before. Whatever tweaks you guys have done to the algorithm, it has made the site seem really stale. And its making me use it far less.

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plutoisplanet9 Sep 21, 2015 +19

I'd also like to chime in. I agree that things feel slow. I used to be able to check in the morning, see a bunch of cool stuff. Check in late afternoon/evening and see a bunch of cool, NEW stuff. Now half of the things roll over to the next morning when I saw them the morning before. I don't want to be too dramatic but as a whole you guys are losing me as a lurker/contributor because of the way the things are heading.

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Megalomania-Ghandi Sep 22, 2015 +21

Something has changed. It just has. It's either that or we are all suffering from mass hysteria. As a manager over many large projects in my time, it is my advice that, you're going to have to have the people that are certain that nothing has changed and have them go back and go over everything. The bigger listnook gets the less likely any one person actually knows everything that has changed. Wayyyy too many people are experiencing this and it definitely has nothing to do with going back to school. It has been like this for months. Pretty much since sometime around PAO-Gate. I bet a lot of stuff rolled in that time to stop the spam and hate. I'd list them but pretty sure we both know the key incidents. But I'd figure it out fast. It might actually have a bigger negative impact to the community than all the blustering did in that time.

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Neldonado Sep 21, 2015 +65

The front page use to change a lot, now I see the same posts on the front page all day long sometimes.

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damn_this_is_hard Sep 21, 2015 +56

Not true. Unless listnook is truly on a downslope and good content isn't coming in as much. Left work 2.5 hours ago. Not a single new post in my top 10. This and an earthporn post are new to my top 25

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OOH_REALLY Sep 21, 2015 +71

/r/videos is good example. Most videos stay on the first page for 12 or more hours. This has never been the case before.

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doug3465 Sep 21, 2015 +38

They were playing around with the upvote cap but changed it back, so it should be functioning normally as of a couple weeks ago. Here's my theory: More traffic means more upvotes being distributed on the frontpage. The amount of upvotes being distributed on the new queue needs to keep up with that in order for the algorithm to continue working the same way, and that's just not happening. Gotta get to the new queue, people!

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kbuis Sep 21, 2015 +7

This seems like a likely culprit. If your system relies on people upvoting content to be on the front page, and a large amount of your content on the front page is upvoted more than other content, then a larger userbase should create a stale environment. EDIT: Because it would be rude to say what's wrong without coming up with an idea, if there were some way to devalue upvotes once posts hit the front page (from counting as a full upvote to maybe half of one), that could fix the staleness issue.

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Cmoreglass Sep 22, 2015 +35

Well if it helps with your meme theory, I was unaware of any changes to any algorithm until it was mentioned in this thread. I too noticed that rather than there being "two" distinct front pages, i.e. one in the morning and one at night, it seemed to be more like one in the morning, with a few new ones by night fall. But lets say that the meme theory is true. If the entire community is asking for it to change, it sounds like a pretty easy fix to just placate the *entire* userbase, even if they *are* wrong^note1 , **why not just change the algorithm again to make it as fast as they users think that it should be / want it to be?** What is there to be gained from telling them that they are just imaging it, and not changing something that sounds like it's super easy to change... [Note1: what's that phrase about the customer always being something? They're always just imagining things or something? No wait, it's that they are always wrong?]

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guelahpapyrus Sep 21, 2015 +207

I'll second the stale feeling. Seems like stories don't rotate as much.

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munk_e_man Sep 21, 2015 +67

About half my front page changes during the course of the day, but some stories seem to stay on for 12 or more hours. Other stories appear for 10 minutes, then after I got back to the main page, they're gone.

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guelahpapyrus Sep 21, 2015 +28

Yeah, this is a more accurate description of my experience.

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RandomName01 Sep 21, 2015 +28

The new voting algorithm keeps posts that are doing good on the front page for longer, thus slowing the cycle of posts and causing less new posts to appear on the front page. (IIRC)

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Drunken_Economist Sep 21, 2015 +499

It could have to do with a lot of active users going back to school — fewer users submitting diverse content. *However*, the actual velocity of the front page is faster than it's been in several months ([since we started tracking it](https://www.listnook.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3kg0v3/eli5_why_the_fuck_are_there_over_75_eli5_posts_on/cux9t5c)). Posts are on the front page for shorter periods, and the order changes more frequently.

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drchazz Sep 21, 2015 +321

Posts from 22 hours ago are regularly still on the front page when I wake up in the mornings. I"m not sure what your data shows, but I've been here 5 years and this wasn't a problem until a few months ago.

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Celebit Sep 22, 2015 +188

I don't know what bothers me more: the amount of stale links on the front page, or the casual denial/dismissal of it by admins every time it's brought up. I've seen hundreds (if not thousands) of the same complaints, but no, *everything is fine*. The response is just "yeah we broke it a couple months ago, but now its not broken, because we said so. Having 14 and 23 hour old posts in your top 25 is totally normal and it's always been like that, it's not still broken, now move along." **Alternate ending:** We truly have become a hivemind, causing us all to subconciously bond and strengthen our latent psychic powers 100,000 times over. Even without our conscious knowledge of it, this now gives us the ability to manifest our shared thoughts into reality! Pretty sweet, eh? Except since the only thing we all have truly in common is listnook, and since we are all usually bored when we decide to get on listnook, those shared feelings of boredom and listnook have subconsciously shaped and manifested itself into a stale and uninteresting front page!!! *Cue Twighlight Zone music.* Either that, or like, I dunno...the admins fucked it up? Both totally plausible.

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Synchrotr0n Sep 22, 2015 +15

I thought this whole problem with stagnant front pages was just keeping around for so long because of the Listnook employees being slow, but now with them denying the problem even exist (the opposite actually) makes me really wonder what's going on, and it can't be a good thing if the admins are refusing to as knowledge the problem since they can't be so stupid not to notice so many posts remaining on the front page for so long compared to the way it was before.

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +35

Nothings broken on your account. Apparetly this is something people have been noticing lately. My personal thought on it is either A. it a bug B. Listnookors heard something about the front page algorithim changing (in reality the cap changed and then the change was reverted) and that was making the front page slower. Then everyone was like "yeah the front page is slow" and is just now notcing how *stale listnook actually already is* Why do you think I started modding and doing other stuff? regular listnook gets boring.

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koobstylz Sep 21, 2015 +13

I've been so afraid to speak out against the hive mind, but maybe I can here. I agree with you completely, my Listnook experience hasn't changed in the slightest. 6 months ago if I was on for several hours in a day everything would be very stale, and the same is true now. It's just a change in perception that suddenly people realize there isn't a constant flow of new and high quality content.

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pilgrimboy Sep 21, 2015 +45

I think part of the problem is that we aren't using the default Listnook frontpage. We're using a page consisting of all of the subs that we subscribe to.

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +32

Exactly. Longtime listnookors, especially, will have a different experience than the admins' baseline numbers.

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AlmostTheNewestDad Sep 21, 2015 +107

Can we see any data? It certainly doesn't seem that way. At all.

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Drunken_Economist Sep 21, 2015 +61

Sure, I put up a bit [here](https://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/3lv3qo/marty_weiner_listnook_cto_back_to_cto_all_the_things/cv9krth). I'm happy to pull more specific information though!

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fuckyouabunch Sep 21, 2015 +121

Is it possible that the people experiencing the slowdown are primarily people who have unsubscribed from many of the defaults? Maybe not all, but enough for it to have affected them differently?

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Genlsis Sep 22, 2015 +37

Now THAT is the first reasonable explanation for this that I've seen. It would explain why the majority of posters (people invested enough to likely sub to many smaller subs) would be seeing stale posts while the admins analyzing the front page and default only subs would see high velocity. I feel that the majority of older posts I see are from smaller subs.

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Fenzik Sep 21, 2015 +58

So it's actually just our tolerance that's building? It really is like a drug.

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InfinityCircuit Sep 21, 2015 +6

It seems like my "hot" tab is only refreshing 50% as fast. Before the last update a few months back, I could log in once daily and see all-new posts. Now, I see only half new, with half of yesterday's top posts. It's not necessarily a bad thing, I just create multis of my favorite subs to browse in more detail to avoid the same posts.

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doug3465 Sep 21, 2015 +240

Asked this last time: I've heard admins talk a lot about the infrastructure of listnook's code and how awful it is -- built in an "omg we need to get the site back up" sort of way, or just hacking existing code to make new features. Are there any plans to completely overhaul any of the infrastructure, something like modmail for example, which is just a hack of inbox messages, which is just a hack of comments, which makes it very hard to improve a really, really shitty system. ______________ > Performing a major overhaul of our age old code base and architecture so that we can create new product faster, better, and more enjoyably Awesome! Is there a time estimate for this? Curious to know how *much* of an overhaul exactly -- just certain features like modmail? everything from the bottom up?

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Mart2d2 Sep 21, 2015 +181

Estimates are very fuzzy here, *especially* at this stage of early planning. I can tell you we plan to make major progress pushing an API between the frontend and backend to make a clean interface between the two. Then we'll look to cleaning up each section separately (clean up = cleaner code, testing, nice deployment, etc). I'm hoping at least one major site function will be in the new code base sometime in Q4, but this could leak into Q1 depending on the amount of work.

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traversecity Sep 22, 2015 +36

A clean interface between each tier can be painful to achive. Both technical and political pain. Don't back down on this, make it happen. It will be sooo worth it!

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hopper_lock Sep 21, 2015 +557

What's up with the abnormal increase in Listnook downtime lately? Or patches of unavailability might be a more apt description?

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Mart2d2 Sep 21, 2015 +254

Hard to say about the increase. With growth of user base and employee base, downtime tends to go up and we need to get (and stay) ahead of it. There's been a few major incidents over the last few weeks. We have a P0 task in flight that would have prevented one of them, and this will prevent many in the future (bringing McRouter in front of our memcaches). One of the incidents was related to AWS's autoscaling incident, and we have a few fixes to help mitigate bad effects should this happen again. Other's get more complicated and I can explain more over PM. Suffice to say we'll be spending Q4 and Q1 trying to increase availability and decrease eng pain. We'll get there. We need more great people! We're moving about as fast as our fingers can type and the coffee can be drunk. If you know an awesome infra/ops person who loves Listnook, especially somebody who has experience growing large distributed systems, please PM me.

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wesman212 Sep 22, 2015 +40

No, but really. In the last two weeks in particular, I've been hitting that 503 page frequently. I want to adopt a rescue dog just so it can bark ferociously at those stupid cats on that page

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altintx Sep 22, 2015 +61

Above you were saying site seems more static because contributors have gone back to school, but at the same time the load's going up? I know a read is not free, but I think of a write being way more expensive. Shouldn't the load be going down?

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kirun Sep 21, 2015 +73

The big downtime the other day was because an Amazon AWS region fell on its arse.

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TryUsingScience Sep 21, 2015 +68

Probably from a big cluster of the AWS cloud servers being down. That hit a ton of sites.

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adityapstar Sep 21, 2015 +10

It might have been on their CDN's side, not listnook. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/09/20/aws_database_outage/

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neildegrasstokem Sep 21, 2015 +1649

Seeeaarch... **SEEAAAARRRCCCHHH.**

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Mart2d2 Sep 21, 2015 +1035

SEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAARRRRRCCCCHHHHH Made more mention of it [earlier](https://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/3lv3qo/marty_weiner_listnook_cto_back_to_cto_all_the_things/cv9jmgj), but the short is it's high on the recruiting priority for Q4.

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RandomName01 Sep 21, 2015 +636

Finally, this is something that's really needed. For now I still use Google to search listnook.

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Mart2d2 Sep 21, 2015 +1703

Soon you will use Listnook to search Google. I don't really know if that makes sense... but it sounds cool.

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verybakedpotatoe Sep 21, 2015 +88

I really want listnook to be a searchable database of comment threads about news items and other content. I do use google to search listnook to search the news, so you are not too far off. just google yourselves, you can use my office

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compto35 Sep 22, 2015 +20

A big part of why search is broken is infrastructure…ie. the platform needs a way to tag content in a literal sense. A lot of stuff is posted as tongue in cheek, or titled with an obscure reference to the actual content. A lot of 'look at this this!'…which is encouraged and expected as that's how novelty is generated…but when you're trying to find something you saw, like a Build-A-Bear collection of CareBears that was titled "Someone had too much time on their hands…" there needs to be a way for search to know those were stuffed CareBears. This would also apply in situations where there are whole threads centered around making reference to something…but to an outsider, there's no way to actually know what the thread would be in reference to.

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LpSamuelm Sep 21, 2015 +366

"I don't know if that makes sense... but it sounds cool" is the metric by which I make all my decisions.

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SnarkMasterRay Sep 21, 2015 +79

Management bound, you are!

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +42

Just have the listnook search box return google "[search query] site:listnook.com" results

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ron_leflore Sep 21, 2015 +244

You are a c-level manager. What you say isn't supposed to make sense to the rest of us.

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Fractal_Death Sep 22, 2015 +158

Throw a "synergy" in there and you'll be golden.

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[deleted] Sep 22, 2015 +18

I don't thing a "synergy" would help establish our workflow, we prefer to shift resources towards client-facing when we're getting our back-end fixed up properly. We love anything back-end -Listnook

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Rangsk Sep 21, 2015 +116

I think one of the biggest issues with searching listnook is that titles tend to be intentionally vague or even misleading, so finding the post again can be an exercise in futility. One idea I had was to allow the community to associate tags with a post which are themselves voted on. Search could then use those tags to find the results.

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kemitche Sep 21, 2015 +32

There are 3 quicker wins than implementing tagging: 1. Start indexing the comments. When you search right now, you're looking at.... titles. And maybe self-text. Not nearly enough info, especially when half the titles are "look what I found" 2. Start indexing the *content* - fetch the submitted article, find its content, and index THAT in some fashion. 3. Experiment (more) with the relevance algorithm, and use Big Data® to determine if the changes are improvements or not.

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compto35 Sep 22, 2015 +8

The problem with indexing comments is that many of the comments, especially in the case of memes, are all dancing around the Thing without ever explicitly mentioning the Thing

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kemitche Sep 22, 2015 +11

Possibly, but I think the comments do a better job than the titles. Filtering out the noise is definitely a tough job though. Perhaps listnook's stopword list should be a list of dank memes.

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fuckyouabunch Sep 21, 2015 +67

That would work, but this is listnook. Every other post would be tagged with what ever -jerk meme of the day was. And tags themselves would certainly spawn a few of them.

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tequila13 Sep 21, 2015 +17

The problem is that the search algorithm should search the comment, not the titles. That's the number one reason reason of the suckage. You've seen the word cloud bots. Listnook should make a word cloud of every thread and shows threads that contains the most relevant word in the word cloud. It's not that complicated.

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jstrydor Sep 21, 2015 +127

Look, I'm not gonna pretend to know who this Mr. Q4 guy is but can you please tell him to get this search thing figured out?

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +124

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mikenew02 Sep 21, 2015 +134

Use Google "dank memes site:listnook.com" And by sublistnook "bernie sanders site:listnook.com/r/circlejerk"

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rmxz Sep 21, 2015 +16

It does surprisingly badly at finding old postings. There are listnook comments I made that I know are in there somewhere; but neither Google nor Listnook Search can find them when I look for them.

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kemitche Sep 21, 2015 +27

listnook search doesn't index comments. That's about 60% of the problem right there.

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +370

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Mart2d2 Sep 21, 2015 +490

Not much as been done in the last couple months because we've been focusing on mod and community tools, and in Q4 there's a focus on cleanup, BUT I do have "building a dedicated search team" on the hot list for recruiting.

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Fatvod Sep 21, 2015 +554

Dude honestly, this is such a breath of fresh air. You speak the language we want to hear from a CTO. Not these dodgy political c*** outs. You own up to something when its not great, you give real solutions to the problems that you already seem to have a handle on. I havnt seen this out of any other listnook employee in my 6 years of being here. Honestly man, its refreshing.

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ShameInTheSaddle Sep 22, 2015 +28

Mr. Weiner, your listnook tenure seems to have the momentum of a runaway freight train. Why are you so popular? I know it's a tough question, but I'm hoping it's a fair one.

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TuskenCam Sep 21, 2015 +118

In the meantime can a search term in the bar just redirect to google results? That is what most people use anyway

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Jakeable Sep 21, 2015 +20

You can always download [this extension](https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/better-search-for-listnook/lbcdlgllbopjbcgoaggnmonanogobekm) :)

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Subduction Sep 21, 2015 +296

So the mods had their tantrum for their tools and support, my tantrum is about getting *"Servers too busy, try again later"* pages multiple times a day. I assume you are working on it, but in the spirit of openness, would you please create a page with a graph that tells us how many times a day the over-limit page is served? That way we can see your progress in gradually bringing it to zero. The mods's problems affect them and I hope they're getting satisfaction, but this is the primary issue affecting me as a user, and just because I can't threaten to take the site dark I'd like to know it's being addressed. Thanks.

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Mart2d2 Sep 21, 2015 +159

I'll add this to my mountain of priorities to ponder. Our current priority is simply to get the number of site downtimes down (simple to say, hard to do!) so you don't even have to check status.

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Subduction Sep 21, 2015 +70

I understand, and as someone who does something close to what you do I am sympathetic, but the response to the moderators came in two parts: action and accountability. I have no doubt that you are moving as hard as you can on the action items regarding uptime. What I am requesting, however, is a user-facing tool for accountability.

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spladug Sep 21, 2015 +214

We have a status page with graphs of our error rates and queue lengths etc. It has historical data as well so you can compare. http://www.listnookstatus.com/

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Subduction Sep 21, 2015 +52

As I've explained elsewhere, honestly, you don't. The charts have no y-axis values whatsoever, and are so small that most of the time they are indistinguishable from 0. They don't communicate anything except "this one area is more than this other area." I'm asking for a real chart that tells us honest information and real quantities.

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Neospector Sep 22, 2015 +21

> The charts have no x-axis values whatsoever The x-axis value is time. I think you mean y-axis; we don't have a scale for the y-axis so we can't tell if the huge spike was 100 errors or 100,000 errors.

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daishiknyte Sep 22, 2015 +70

A chart needs X and Y values clearly labelled and scaled to mean something.

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +431

> I have about 1.17 hours I'm sorry, but to keep with the agile development philosophy, can you please express that in story points?

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Mart2d2 Sep 21, 2015 +236

Oh, hmm, that amount of time for one person? Feels like an X-Small, but an X-Large in loooooove.

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +152

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tuxedo25 Sep 21, 2015 +29

Damnit, we need to order a set of planning p**** cards with fractions on them.

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Mart2d2 Sep 21, 2015 +120

Ah, I've used them interchangeably. Well, depending on your system of choice, let's go with exponential: 1 for about one person-hour of effort and 16 for loooooove.

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barack_ibama Sep 22, 2015 +71

But.. but.. 16 is not Fibonacci! Are you saying love is not Fibonacci?

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casualblair Sep 22, 2015 +12

Dude there's a song about this. What is love? Not fibonacci. Not fibonacci. No more. You should listen to it.

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MrWeiner Sep 21, 2015 +1128

First. Edit: Let this be a lesson, kids. If you work hard, you can be an F-list celebrity, and get upvotes for saying "first."

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Anomander Sep 21, 2015 +91

Your brother tipped you off, didn't he! Now I'm curious, does this sort of heinous collusion have a name, like insider trading? ...Insider shitposting?

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MrWeiner Sep 21, 2015 +102

It's called gullibility, in that I'm just realizing I don't get paid for this.

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inconspicuous_male Sep 21, 2015 +79

You're not an F-List! You're at least E. You're twitter verified and William Shatner knows you exist

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MrWeiner Sep 21, 2015 +85

Hey *knew* I existed for the duration of a twitter interaction. I'll go with F+.

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masterofshadows Sep 21, 2015 +32

Serious question /u/MrWeiner . Has your brother always been a weiner or is this a new development?

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MrWeiner Sep 21, 2015 +115

I wasn't there for the first 1.5 years, and I haven't paid attention in the 33 years following.

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Zombi_Sagan Sep 22, 2015 +13

You guys are awesome. You're adopting me. No discussion, it's done.

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Change4Betta Sep 21, 2015 +27

Why did you send those d*** pics through twitter?

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +96

Who is mom's favorite? You or Marty?

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MrWeiner Sep 21, 2015 +331

Let me call her real quick. Edit: Me. Or at least, she couldn't remember anyone named Marty.

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TheTrampRO Sep 21, 2015 +376

What the f***'s your problem with cilantro?

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spyhermit Sep 21, 2015 +15

Some people have a gene that causes cilantro to taste more like soap, and many of them cannot overcome this flavor.

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yotengodormir Sep 21, 2015 +56

Cool. How's it going?

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ownage516 Sep 21, 2015 +897

Hey, I have an idea for monetizing listnook...hear me out. You know how other sites "steal" from listnook's front page and just spread it through the internet? Why don't you guys hire a few editors and basically create your own buzzfeed but basically link back to the OG listnook links and what not. I mean, it's perfectly legit. Also, Listnook gold is useless. Why should I have it? It feels useless...if you can, make it worth something? Edit: Oh...um, thanks...for listnook gold? I think? Edit 2: Okay, haha, I got gilded because I said listnook gold is useless. I would respectfully ask you guys to stop gilding me, but knowing Listnook, I would be gilded even more or something. But seriously guys, there are so many other comments that more clever, funnier than mine that deserved to be gilded. So, like...chill lol. Edit 3: The f*** am I supposed to do with 6 gold? Last Edit: Alright, I don't wanna come off as complaining for being gilded, but I've been gilded prior to today. And every time prior, I would usually know who gilded me, which is awesome because I would thank them personally. But it's sorta weird, but all of the 7 gilds were by anonymous people...not even one of them showing their name. Thought I'd share. Lastest Edit: Wise Sage status. Lets get it.

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SheWhoReturned Sep 21, 2015 +20

>Also, Listnook gold is useless. Why should I have it? It feels useless...if you can, make it worth something? I like how it shows you what posts are new in a thread you already visited, but that is the only value I have found for it.

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deviantbono Sep 21, 2015 +151

>You know how other sites "steal" from listnook's front page and just spread it through the internet? Right, because Listnook would never take content from other sites and spread it through the internet...

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +209

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gymnasticRug Sep 21, 2015 +173

Redfeed sounds like a c****** site.

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +64

Uhh so this may be minor or may have been mentioned before. Hell, I don't even know if this is something you can fix, but here goes. 1. On the mobile site, whenever I click a link or post, it'll take me to its page (normal). However, when I want to go back, it'll send me right up to the top of Listnook, and kills the progress I've made scrolling down far. 2. Sometimes when I want to open up the comments section, I will hold down the comments icon in the attempt to open it in a new page (since I don't want to deal with the thing happening where I'll have to go back and be shot up to the top again). Many times, that function of holding the comment button and trying to open a new page will not work. If you could fix this or offer an explanation, that'd be great. Thanks for doing this.

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crysiscrytical Sep 22, 2015 +10

seconded. I sometimes don't click links/comments because I weigh how much I want to see something vs how much I really don't want to have to scroll through all the posts again to get back to this point.

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +143

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spez Sep 21, 2015 +212

The big feature we lack right now is keyword targeting, and perhaps more importantly, anti-keyword targeting. Right now, advertisers have very little control over who actually sees their ads because they can only target at the community level, and they're very concerned about brand safety. Basically, they want to say, I want my ad to show around conversations about *this* topic, but not *that* topic. As far as tracking, we will continue to serve ads in an iframe, which dramatically limits what information an advertiser sees (e.g. they don't see what urls you're on), and we will provide ways to opt-out (more than we offer now). Philosophically, I'm as paranoid as anyone about advertisers knowing what I'm up to online–it's a common characteristic of most Listnook employees, in fact–so that guides our thinking.

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goatcoat Sep 21, 2015 +270

So basically, you want Prego to be able to show pasta sauce ads on posts about spaghetti, but prevent them from showing on posts about abortion.

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spez Sep 22, 2015 +232

Where were you when I needed an example 15 minutes ago.

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goatcoat Sep 22, 2015 +40

Feel free to use it in the future.

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Adenverd Sep 21, 2015 +93

What tools and technologies are you researching for enhancing your data pipeline and data science platform? Obviously there's a lot of great emerging and established technologies in the space (Hadoop + Spark, Elasticsearch + Kibana, Kafka + Storm, etc etc), so I'm really curious which approach your engineering team chooses/will choose and why.

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Kaitaan Sep 21, 2015 +152

We've already built quite a bit, though we have a long way to go. The data team here is really small right now, and consists of one [analyst](https://www.listnook.com/user/drunken_economist), one [engineer](https://www.listnook.com/user/Kaitaan/), and one [scientist](https://www.listnook.com/user/jophuds) ([though we're looking for more good people](https://jobs.lever.co/listnook)). We're using Hadoop for log ingestion (EMR), which gives us some data around requests to the site and tracking pixels for things like page-views. Our hadoop jobs read/write to/from S3, and we have a Hive warehouse built on top of this data. A bunch of Hive queries are run periodically (hourly, daily, etc) against this data to do ETL to build reporting tables (all dependencies managed via Azkaban, though I just found out about [pinball](https://github.com/pinterest/pinball) and it looks pretty sweet). We have a few dashboards and reports on those reporting tables so we can get nice summaries about things that matter. We've also recently put up a streaming pipeline, built primarily on Kafka. Events hit an endpoint, which ships them to the Kafka cluster. We're operating on a single cluster right now (plus one for testing), though that may change to separate functional clusters at some point. A number of Kafka consumers (managed by Mesos and Marathon) ingest data from the cluster, transform it to an appropriate format, then dump it off to S3 in a very similar way to Pinterest's Secor tool. The format and location output to allows our existing Hive warehouse to pick up the new data, and bring it into the same ETL pipeline we use from the batch ingest data. Currently, we're playing around a bit with Spark, and we'll have that in there in production at some point when we have the time to properly integrate it. Storm is also an option for some of what we'd like to do, but I've had some issues with it in the past, and have heard a number of anecdotal stories about problems with it. I love the _idea_, but it may not work for us down the line. We'll have to see. All in all, it's a very barebones system right now, but we have huge plans for it all. I love finding new systems and tools and figuring out which fit nicely into our future plans and infra, though with only one engineer working in the area, there's a very limited amount of bandwidth available. We've found a few really nice third-party tools and vendors who build some awesome stuff in the surrounding area to take some of the systems maintenance load off, allowing us to expand our systems more quickly, but there still some integration work to do there. *edit: I'm always happy to talk data and answer any questions I can!

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[deleted] Sep 22, 2015 +28

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Kaitaan Sep 22, 2015 +17

Agreed; I definitely want to play around with it some more, but mostly because it's interesting. I don't think it scales particularly well.

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tmarthal Sep 22, 2015 +7

Honestly, whatever engineer/architect set up your pipeline, it is pretty dialed in (that setup is what I am working on trying to change the startup I work for pipeline to). What are your monthly s3 costs? :P

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Kaitaan Sep 22, 2015 +14

a) thank you! It was definitely a collaborative effort, but the biggest advantage we had was starting from scratch a little less than a year ago. We didn't have legacy systems to deal with (aside from the actual Listnook stack, but our stack is independent from it). As for monthly s3 costs, I doubt I could reveal that number even if I knew it (I don't, off-hand).

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8bitmaster Sep 21, 2015 +323

Did I read that right? You're looking for android developers? Does that mean a native android app is in the works? Also, if you're looking for more folks I would love to help!

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dforsyth Sep 21, 2015 +670

Yep, we're working on a native Android app! It's real, it's slick, and I'm posting this reply from it. [Check it out](http://imgur.com/foA8OmJ)! It's still a work in progress, and if you want to help us build it, check out our [jobs page](https://jobs.lever.co/listnook).

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zlsa Sep 21, 2015 +462

/r/androidcirclejerk would like to have a word with listnook's Android team about the icons.

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ecafyelims Sep 22, 2015 +193

How am I supposed to circle jerk to this? The design isn't even material.

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ShortFuse Sep 22, 2015 +13

Not just the icons. The toolbar should probably be colored with a white, but with 30% opacity on the search bar. The message icon doesn't match the orange accent color, which is weird. You usually have 3 colors: primary, accent and warn color. The message icon is also not the right size (looks too small). Also, that vertical divider isn't used anymore. That's been gone since Gingerbread. Also, the card style is pre-material design. It should have a shadow to show it's a 3D object on top of a gray object (like paper). It looks like a tall gray separator rather than a card design.

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krackers Sep 22, 2015 +119

But on the other hand it's a stock nexus... that's on Lollipop. F*** they're old.

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shawntempesta Sep 22, 2015 +44

I just find it funny that people are on Listnook for ugly UI. Have you seen the site? /bitter digg fan

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Dragon_Fisting Sep 22, 2015 +33

/r/androidcirclejerk is even hard on Google for not being material design enough.

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clb92 Sep 22, 2015 +46

To be fair, Google developed the damn guidelines and even they don't follow them. How can they expect more apps to start using Material properly if they can't even use it themselves. Google should act as an example and make sure to follow the guidelines a bit closer. There, I said it.

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Yesheddit Sep 22, 2015 +13

> toasts should be centered > the mdToast directive supports top right bottom and left. Thanks Google

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Jaredmf Sep 22, 2015 +29

With an official android client on the way, do you still plan to support 3rd party apps through the API?

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HaikuberryFin Sep 22, 2015 +75

I really hope so, /u/dbrady's done great things for *"Relay for Listnook"*

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darkfate Sep 22, 2015 +35

That, and Sync for Listnook, Baconreader, etc.

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nmork Sep 21, 2015 +53

is that a new logo? also, what's with /u/spez in the corner

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thoomfish Sep 21, 2015 +84

Wild, completely uneducated guess is that it's a debug status icon. If the app is running fine, he's happy, and if it's having problems (going sub-60fps, for example), he gets angry.

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_y2b_ Sep 21, 2015 +167

Does it come with a dark/night mode option?

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RikVanguard Sep 22, 2015 +92

Only if your name is Bruce Wayne

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LetsWorkTogether Sep 22, 2015 +4

It seems to be prioritizing visual pizzazz over text real estate. I use RIF because it packs the most text onto my comparatively tiny phone screen as possible. Could you possibly design your app to cater to both crowds, those who like it to look pretty, and those who value functionality over form? Some type of toggle between the two, or some other method of changing this in the settings, would be great.

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tnethacker Sep 21, 2015 +21

So... could you ~~link~~ leak the APK please?

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le_pman Sep 22, 2015 +27

[\#apkplz](http://www.apkmirror.com/#uploadAPK)

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talkingwires Sep 21, 2015 +314

Why not hire /u/talklittle? Listnook Is Fun is a great app, so why reinvent the wheel?

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SICK_AS_FUCKKK Sep 21, 2015 +117

Yeah wtf why waste resources when there's been a great app for android for YEARS now? Just take listnook is fun and improve upon that. You have so many worse problems to deal with at listnook. Plus even when the official listnook app is released what's stopping me from using listnook is fun? I might like it more, so in that case you're just splintering your Android user base. Huuuge mistake not taking over Listnook Is Fun.

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Hi7nRun Sep 22, 2015 +18

Agreed. I consider myself pretty c**** when it comes to digital products. However, after only month or so of having the free version I opted to purchase the full version. Solely to support the developer.

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glr123 Sep 21, 2015 +149

Just what I was thinking. Listnook is fun is an amazing app.

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[deleted] Sep 22, 2015 +6

I thought I liked alien blue until I recently got a Note 5 and went with listnook is fun. It is just as easy as the desktop version of the site. I still miss a few features from Alien Blue but i am also still finding all of the little gems hidden without.

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cjbrigol Sep 22, 2015 +36

Leave him alone. Listnook is fun is amazing and what I'm using, and pretty sure the real listnook would ruin it

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Kaitaan Sep 21, 2015 +104

[go here](https://jobs.lever.co/listnook/4decde36-284b-4e46-8371-f7a3b6bf6ab8)

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warlock1010 Sep 21, 2015 +39

do employees really get 'unlimited' vacation days? How does that work? And why are they unlimited?

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Kaitaan Sep 21, 2015 +133

It is 'unlimited', but I think the implied caveat there is that you actually have to still be able to do your job. If you take 364 days off in a year, we probably won't keep you around as an employee. But as long as you're doing your job (and doing it well), why bother to count how much time off you take? I've taken 3-4 weeks in the last year. Much of that was vacation I'd booked before even accepting the job here, but nobody gives me any shit for taking vacations. I don't take 2 days every week off, or month-long vacations at a time, because I know I still have to get stuff done. I also enjoy my job enough that I don't feel like I _need_ to take a ton of time off. I still get to visit my family, travel, and relax.

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BesottedScot Sep 22, 2015 +74

The way you say that makes me sad. I get 6ish weeks holiday by law per year (33 days). Its a pity that America does not have federally mandated holidays.

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +52

When Listnook says its servers are busy, does that mean you're seeing a spike in traffic (in which case you should be spinning up new instances, but don't ಠ_ಠ), or did you have servers fall over and get removed from the LB, or is it a code error somewhere? It just strikes me as weird that listnook constantly throws 503s for no discernible reason.

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +24

Generally its a scalbility problem. It may not be traffic related at all, just like a knee buckling slightly for whatever reason, then the whole leg just giving out. Notably, listnooks memcahced and code in general has issues with scalability. The only way this can really be "fixed" is hard and long developer time. and pizza Plus, I know listnook has been having a bit of a rough time keeping its master databases operating properly, and from what I understand, its just a string of nasty luck

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postdarwin Sep 21, 2015 +16

I know someone else said SEAAAAAARCCH but what about searching comments? I've been around longer than /r/announcements, and with the cyclical nature of Listnook (we're capitalising now, right?) I find myself searching for answers I gave years ago. Any hope for this?

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GodOfAtheism Sep 21, 2015 +83

>Hiring strong engineers like mad I'm pretty good at [poly bridge](http://store.steampowered.com/app/367450/) and bench 350. That work for you?

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ColdstreamRed Sep 21, 2015 +135

What're the plans with the iOS interface? Are we going to see a major revamp, or are you sticking with the diagonal 'theme'?

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spez Sep 21, 2015 +209

Major UI revamp is underway with, amongst many things, more traditional navigation. (You can also enable Classic UI mode in AlienBlue settings, which is what I personally do for the time being).

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KkblowinKk Sep 21, 2015 +154

Even the CEO of listnook knows that designer fucked up.

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[deleted] Sep 21, 2015 +123

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gooeyblob Sep 21, 2015 +109

There is no new algorithm, there was a slight change that was being tested and it was reverted. https://www.listnook.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3kg0v3/eli5_why_the_fuck_are_there_over_75_eli5_posts_on/cux6yqk https://www.listnook.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3kg0v3/eli5_why_the_fuck_are_there_over_75_eli5_posts_on/cux9t5c https://www.listnook.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3kg0v3/eli5_why_the_fuck_are_there_over_75_eli5_posts_on/cux6vpw edit: one more - https://www.listnook.com/r/changelog/comments/3inm1c/listnook_change_the_increase_to_the_soft_cap_on/

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umbrae Sep 21, 2015 +68

This meme has been so hard to kill, but seriously, completely and honestly, nothing has changed. It is exactly the same as it was. There is no difference, anything you are perceiving is imaginary. Here's some data: https://www.listnook.com/r/explainlikeimfive/comments/3kg0v3/eli5_why_the_fuck_are_there_over_75_eli5_posts_on/cux9t5c For a very short time we had a small change that impacted the front page speed, but as soon as we reverted things went back to normal.

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GamerfreakWasTaken Sep 21, 2015 +13

Hello, I just had a couple questions. How is being a CTO, and were you at one point a CIO? What degree(s) did you get when attending college/university *(CS/Business Administration)*? Thanks in advance Marty...Weiner ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) **EDIT:** I was interested in pursuing a similar career, that is why the questions are geared towards that.

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Cdtco Sep 21, 2015 +12

If you don't mind my asking, exactly which mod tools are you thinking of making your highest priority at the moment?

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