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Marvel Undergoes Layoffs Amid Companywide Disney Cuts

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Marvel Lays Off 8% Of Staff Amid Companywide Disney Cuts

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GrandmaPoses Apr 14, 2026 +275
Well, they weren’t using those location scouts to begin with.
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Embarrassed-Yard-583 Apr 14, 2026 +125
I imagine that there’s one guy sitting in an almost empty office, aware that he only has a job because the department is part of some tax scheme. “We used to work hand in hand with the director and cinematographer, you know?” He says to no one. “This used to be real.”
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DoctorGregoryFart Apr 15, 2026 +27
"I fell in love with my wife in Tunisia... Who the hell falls in love in The Volume?"
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Potential-Diver-3409 Apr 15, 2026 +15
Someone has to remind them to stop building studios over sinkholes
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Va1crist Apr 15, 2026 +15
Most likely shifting to more fking AI
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RedditConsciousness Apr 16, 2026 +3
Hey I won't kink shame. If they want to have sex with AI, power to them. But someone should be making some good quality entertainment.
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DJWGibson Apr 14, 2026 +231
Disney reportedly has 231,000 workers worldwide, so cutting 1,000 jobs is cutting 0.4% of their workforce. Going up or down by 0.5% each year feels unremarkable. Marvel does feel like it should be hit too. They're pretty much ending most of their TV series, the comics are barely hanging on, and they seem to be down to fewer movies each year. They don't need as many people as six or seven years ago...
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confusing_roundabout Apr 14, 2026 +155
It sounds like 8% of Marvel's workforce have been cut. Marvel Studios have been struggling since Endgame and the comics are absolutely awful right now. I wonder what impact this will have.
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prodij18 Apr 15, 2026 +54
I know that the MCU and Star Wars are supposed to be four quadrant movies, but it seems like their pitch to the classic target audience for those properties for a long time was ‘those idiots will buy anything with a cartoon character from their youth in it’. I can’t say I’m surprised or disappointed that eventually that strategy stopped working so well.
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Arkhaine_kupo Apr 15, 2026 +7
> The Disney+ shows really destroyed the remaining magic of Marvel and Star Wars. I heavily disagree. I think thats only the case if you push through and watch everything out there. I am a long term star wars fan that had fallen a bit off the wagon because the games like force unleashed didnt capture me like KOTOR or jedi academy and the new movies were aimed at people much younger than me. But while I like that he loves the franchise I have aged out of Dave Filoni's toy box star wars so avoided his stuff. The remaining shows like Andor and Skeleton Crew are the best star wars since the original trilogy. You can make a pantheon of star wars that is the original trilogy, andor+rogue one, skeleton crew, Kotor 1+2, jedi knight games, the original battlefronts and some of the later episodes arcs of Clone wars and trully get the best of the franchise. If you want more then you can watch early mandalorian, the sequel and prequel movies, the new battlefront games, the racing ones, ashoka show, rebels, fallen order, even add the star wars RTS there that was ok And then if you are a deep deeep fan you can read the novels, push through Kenobi and go to every disney ride to watch shit glorbo drink blue milk on the side of a roller coaster
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TheBoBiZzLe Apr 15, 2026 +12
So you disagree that the “magic” has been destroyed by… ignoring the shows that have been bad? All the shows you’ve said you didn’t watch make up like 90% of the content they released. Filonis toy box starwars now make up EVERYTHING being released. Just feels like… idk a boomer or bot approach to enjoying something. Ignore the waves of garbage and only look at the tiny bits you’ve enjoyed. Anyone can agree or disagree with whatever they want… but disagreeing because you ignore what’s happening is.. idk pretty lame.
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Minglans Apr 15, 2026 +5
I'm genuinely surprised anyone upvoted them honestly. They say it’s still good while avoiding most of it, which is a wild thing to say in general.
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Arkhaine_kupo Apr 16, 2026 +1
> So you disagree that the “magic” has been destroyed by… ignoring the shows that have been bad? I explained which shows appealed to me, and watched that and I think the magic is there. Imagine if you like horror and call yourself an A24 fan. If you watch every single movie, short film, tv show and documentary they produce then you will get bored, oversaturated and see the cracks at the seams. But if youjust decide to watch a few things that appeal to you, they still feel like events. You can like Zone of interest, Past lives and Aftersun and not be there for Beau is Afraid, everything everywhere all at once or The whale. Consuming all of it and blaming the studio rather than your own consuming habits seems misplaced. Disney used to only make movies aimed at the 7-20 crowd because it has the largest market share. Now they make shows for 0-5, 5-10, 7-20, 12-35, 18-90. There is more variety, in content and in target audience as well as in quality. You could focus on the demo you are on, and if something gets to you either through interest or word of mouth try something a bit more out there. but I think once the old republic lore was introduced the idea of star wars as this tiny franchise that only focused on the Skywalker family kinda crumbled for a big part of the more plugged in audience. So if the universe is vast, you gotta pilot to the good bits and not keep hitting asteroids
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TomTomMan93 Apr 15, 2026 +3
I think the point is what you're both saying here. That once you have access to the full buffet, steak and lobster kind of aren't that special anymore. It's the same as the mash potatoes. I think what others are trying to say is that these movies used to feel special. They used to be events. I would say at least until episode 8 if not when the TV shows started multiplying, a star wars movie was a big deal. Everything else was little things to scratch the itch like games and books, but the movie was the thing. Now theres a ton of it and it keeps coming. Its not necessarily all bad, but its shows that are movies and some movies that are...questionable in quality. People get fatigued and when they're slapped for so long with the thing that there used to only be 3-6 of for decades, it loses the charm. Yeah I can watch what I want instead of all of it, and I will. But eventually I want one really good meal once in awhile instead of all I can eat buffet steak.
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Arkhaine_kupo Apr 15, 2026 +3
> That once you have access to the full buffet But you can make choices here. If you put a croissant on top of the goulash and say the dinner tastes like shit, the chef has a right to say you kinda did this to yourself > I think what others are trying to say is that these movies used to feel special. They used to be events. and yet the best thing in decades Andor was completely under the radar. If you are saying that as an adult you want disney to recreate the magic you felt as a child. I am here to break the news to you, that you cant. Childlike wonder is a thing and you lose it when you become older, trying to get that hit back is how people die trying to get their first high again with heroin. Dont chase the dragon. Marvel movies came out every year and where an event, because they were quality. Something being good creates an audience. Focus on making it good and everything else will take care of itself > I want one really good meal once in awhile instead of all I can eat buffet steak. But that good meal exists, if you filled yourself up with chicken nuggests you are going to not be as hungry
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Aern Apr 15, 2026 +2
This what did it for me. The TV shows have been so bad that imI didn't really feel like keeping up with all of the movies. Once that chain of making sure I went and saw all the movie in order to keep up with the story broke, nothing really pulled me back in. Jonathan Majors being a huge piece of shit also hit at a really bad time. I was excited to see more of his Kang.
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viZtEhh Apr 15, 2026 +6
Surprising take because outside of the outliers of Secret Invasion and Kenobi, the D+ shows have been better than nearly all the Disney era Star Wars movies and nearly all post End Game films
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Orphasmia Apr 15, 2026 +2
Yeah Moon Knight was one of the best shows Marvel put out imo
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Ok-Sea9612 Apr 15, 2026 +1
Moon knight is a terrible adaptation of moon knight. A not particularly good comic/super hero show. And has a couple positive points of showcasing egypt and DID.
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Jazzremix Apr 15, 2026 +1
The animated Star Wars shows are peak Star Wars. Thefuck are you talking about. Bad Batch, Clone Wars, Tales, Visions. Not to mention gd Andor lmao
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rusmo Apr 15, 2026 +1
They’ll take a breather and then reboot everything within this next decade, starting with Timothée Chalamet as Tony Stark in a remake of Iron Man
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Least1Difficulty Apr 15, 2026 +1
After endgame they changed their target audience to a younger group, and it failed. Young people don't watch movies like millennials and older people do.
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NoExcuse4OceanRudnes Apr 15, 2026 +1
Which movies were targeted to a younger audience?
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Dycon67 Apr 14, 2026 +45
Honestly yeah people have been talking about the decline about the MCU as brand so this feels like affects starting to take hold.
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Kalse1229 Apr 14, 2026 +14
I don’t think the comics right now are awful. Some of them are doing well story-wise. It’s just a bit of an ebb for right now.
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Worthyness Apr 15, 2026 +11
And the comics are a very very very small piece of Disney overall. They make money sure, but it's not like they're raking in pots of gold or anything. American comics have been really kinda stagnant for the most part while Manga has started taking over the comics industry
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Kalse1229 Apr 15, 2026 +7
True. DC is apparently seeing success with their new compact collections for bigger stories. Maybe Marvel could start doing that too to compete with Manga?
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Team7UBard Apr 15, 2026 +3
That’s the really annoying thing, they are, but the selection is kind of slim right now and despite being for sale over the past year or so, I’ve not actually seen any of them in stores. They are slightly larger in size with high-quality paper and retail at $15 each. IDW also seem to have started a similar line although the only one of their that I’ve seen so far has been a collection of the first two Locke and key books
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Professional_Net7339 Apr 15, 2026 +3
I’m genuinely pretty sure that Marvel comics has been teetering on bankruptcy for longer than it hasn’t. Like, historically.
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PayneTrain181999 Apr 14, 2026 -9
This year will be a brief return to glory with two movies that will easily clear $1B.
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IrrelevantLeprechaun Apr 14, 2026 -6
Disagree. The hype for the Dr Doom Avengers movie is practically non-existent. All the movies between Endgame and Dr Doom have done an absolutely piss poor job of setting things up; people generally just don't care. MCU movies don't seem to do all that much better than any other movie these days.
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SpaceCaboose Apr 14, 2026 +8
Are you refuting the “brief return to glory” statement, or the “two moves that will easily clear $1B”? Or both?
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KumagawaUshio Apr 14, 2026 -3
$1 billion for Doomsday will be a huge loss. RDJ and the Russo's are getting $90M between them for Doomsday alone before all the rest of the cast salaries are included.
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SpaceCaboose Apr 14, 2026 +5
Okay? The other person was saying it would *easily clear* $1B, meaning well over that amount. And I agree with them given that it’s an *Avengers* film. Avengers is its own franchise at this point. Would be shocked to see it not do well over $1B. Spidey will do well over $1B too
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Muad-_-Dib Apr 14, 2026 +6
Thunderbolts managed over 1/3rd of a billion with a very deliberate emphasis on using 2nd tier or even 3rd tier heroes in terms of popularity. Fantastic 4 managed over 1/2th of a billion despite being the 3rd iirc attempt to launch them. Captain America brave new world got over 400m. Deadpool and wolverine got over 1.3 billion. Almost all the big hitters are coming back for doomsday, as soon as they ramp up marketing with trailers the hype will be plentiful.
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IrrelevantLeprechaun Apr 14, 2026 +3
"1/3rd of a billion" Buddy just say 300 million. And 300 million isn't exactly unprecedented for any movie.
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Heisenburgo Apr 15, 2026 +1
> Thunderbolts managed over 1/3rd of a billion with a very deliberate emphasis on using 2nd tier or even 3rd tier heroes in terms of popularity. That movie was literally a huge box office flop, not exactly the best example there... same with Cap America 4 but to a slightly lower extent
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suss2it Apr 14, 2026 +1
They’ll still clear a billion with a movie like that. Their nostalgia bait cameo movies have been their biggest successes post *Endgame* with *Multiverse of Madness, No Way Home* and *Deadpool & Wolverine* being their highest grossing movies with latter two clearing a billion, easily and *Doomsday* is just more of that.
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LordMimsyPorpington Apr 14, 2026 -1
I will almost definitely see it; but, I agree I couldn't care less about the film. That may be just more on me though, and the issue of burnout and boredom I'm dealing with due to the endless deluge of entertainment and ceaseless pervasion of advertisements that's created a kind of Kierkegaardian paralysis and ennui.
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RarelyReadReplies Apr 14, 2026 +25
It's pretty wild how far the MCU has fallen from grace. I can't speak for everyone,  but it sounds like most of us are on the same page. I watched almost every single MCU movie in theater, and I was excited like a little kid everytime.  I watched Shang Chi in theater, and I thought, "okay, not bad for a first movie of the new phase, not great, but pretty good". Then I watched Eternals in theater, and I thought, "okay yeah, I think we're done here". I haven't watched any MCU since then, except Wonder Man recently, which has been good so far. I hope they find a way to bring back the magic, because I miss getting excited to see movies in theater, especially something fun like a superhero movie.
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IrrelevantLeprechaun Apr 14, 2026 +27
My take is that they tried to broaden their horizons too fast with too many new characters all at once. The original Avengers were, what; 6 individuals? And of that 6, 2 of them didn't get their own dedicated films at the time (Hawkeye and Widow), and one of them only got *one* dedicated film (the Hulk, and even then it was with a different actor). It was concise, it had narrative through-lines you could follow, and it came together neatly with each successive Avengers movie. Post endgame, I couldn't even tell you the full roster of characters they were giving movies to. And even then, of the ones I remember, I have no idea which ones are being set up to be Avengers participants considering some projects have been one-offs like Moon Knight (Oscar Isaac seemed pretty adamant he did not want to be tied to the MCU long term) and Eternals.
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confusing_roundabout Apr 14, 2026 +25
I think they didn't realise that what made the MCU work is that you were essentially following a group of characters. It was like a tv show if the main cast were the avengers and then you had a big supporting cast. For that to work, you need plotlines for each character and you need team ups semi regularly. Ideally every movie should contribute (even lightly) to an overarching plot in some small way. Instead they added new characters who didn't reappear soon enough again and didn't even have an illusion of an overarching plot. It completely broke the whole system. I knew I was done with the MCU when I saw the Thor Love and Thunder post credit scene teasing Hercules and didn't care at all. It didn't feel like a teaser for the next movie or something that would pay off. It felt like Taika Watiti watched Ted Lasso and thought "let's shoot a scene with Roy Kent. That'll be fun".
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RarelyReadReplies Apr 15, 2026 +8
Wow, feels like a pretty spot on analysis to me. Someone tell Disney to hire this guy to oversee the next phase.  It's wild how there can be billions of dollars on the line, massive teams of well paid writers, directors, etc, and yet they all had their heads up their own ass and forgot what made the MCU special. They definitely took their audience for granted and just saw dollar signs. They thought they were printing money with every single show and movie, but it oversaturated the MCU and buried itself. I am still pulling for someone to find a way to revive it or reboot it in a satisfying way of course. 
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Orphasmia Apr 15, 2026
Totally agree, often theres still really incredible writers in there but they get buried by the corporate suits and their egos. Once Marvel stopped operating as its own entity and was fully restructured under Disney in late 2015 it fell off a cliff. The timing makes sense with End Game releasing a few years after and then everything being beyond lackluster since.
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amyknight22 Apr 15, 2026 +15
The other thing that I feel doesn't help is that movies aren't just happening for some of these characters anymore. They are all part of some overall plot, which means that some characters are just sitting on the shelf for years. Iron Man got 3 films in 6 years It was 6 years between iterations of doctor strange, shang-chi hasn't had a sequel. There's been years between Wandavision, and doing anything with the Vision stuff from that etc etc. And now we have the issue that they seemingly can't move on from the actors they had in their tentpole roles, so they are just going to wheel out variants of them.
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KumagawaUshio Apr 15, 2026 +1
Iron Man had 3 solo films and Avengers in just 5 years May 2008 - May 2013. As to Shang-Chi Liu was 31 when he filmed the first film he is turning 37 this month and will probably be 40 by the time he gets to film Shang-Chi 2.
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Aevum1 Apr 15, 2026 +2
"he gets to film Shang- Chi 2".... you´re being very optimistic, if doomsday fails, the mcu is probobly going to get rebooted. in the best case they will park the MCU and go the way of the X-Men.
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Worthyness Apr 15, 2026 +5
The new mandate from Disney was to crank things out. They pretty much literally tripled their output at some points. And when you don't get to hire more people to help (COVID hit right after meaning they lost people resources rather than gained) your teams are the equivalent of overworked and underpaid everyday people (like most of us). So your quality control and supervision gets thinned out as you can't keep pace with the requirements from corporate. Their biggest mistake was keeping that absurd timeline and schedule for their material rather than slowing the pace down or cutting programming. They eventually do that though, but that's not until Old Bob gets put back in place and the writer/actors strikes take place. I absolutely believe they could have maintained proper control of quality post-endgame if they weren't hit by that creation mandate
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ew73 Apr 14, 2026 +14
For me, Multiverse of Madness was the "..and I'm out" moment, at least in the theater. I did stick around for a few more shows, but I am sort of divested from the MCU. It feels more like a chore than something fun, which is exactly when I quit doing something in my limited free time that's supposed to be for entertainment.
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SpacePaddy Apr 15, 2026 +4
Doomsday also has me super worried. The issue was never the actors in the series coming and going the issue is the new ones you've wrote like c***. Going multi verse was always a huge risk imo and I was hopeful that during COVID they would have the time to write themselves a new on ramp to make it worthwhile. 
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KumagawaUshio Apr 15, 2026 +3
The cast is even bigger than Endgame's so you know 80% are going to be glorified cameo's. Endgame benefitted from the snap by only needing the majority of the cast for the final part of the final battle which was 14 minutes of a 2 hour 50 minute film.
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NCC75567 Apr 15, 2026 +2
The 1-2 punch of MoM and Love and Thunder ended it for me. I had seen every single MCU film in theaters up to that point.
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Warning_Low_Battery Apr 15, 2026 +2
> The 1-2 punch of MoM and Love and Thunder ended it for me Gonna add Black Panther 2 to that list as well. TBF, nobody on this planet could have adequately followed in Chadwick Boseman's footsteps in that role. But holy shit Letitia Wright's performance was just pure distilled awfulness. Tenoch Huerta killed it as Namor, but the movie overall was terrible.
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NCC75567 Apr 15, 2026
I give BP2 a pass because of the extenuating circumstances. I do think they should have just recast him, but I understand that fans would have flipped out and any worthwhile actor probably wouldn't want to deal with that and living up to Boseman's BP. Just a tough situation.
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KumagawaUshio Apr 14, 2026
Same it was such a disappointment plus the reviews and especially word of mouth for Thor Love and Thunder was so awful now i see a fraction of new MCU stuff in theatres compared to everything upto 2021. I still haven't seen Wakanda Forever or Fantastic Four on Disney+ since everyone says they are just meh. At least with Quantumania, The Marvels, Love and Thunder and Brave New World are interesting to watch to see just how awful so much of the post Endgame films are now.
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mcslackens Apr 14, 2026 +3
I really enjoyed Fantastic Four. It had some less than stellar moments, but I thought it was the best MCU movie in the past few years.
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fcocyclone Apr 15, 2026 +3
I would say the same. It was definitely more of a return to form, its just too bad it took so long to get back to there.
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nauhausco Apr 15, 2026 +7
Visually it was cool, but the characters and plot were ridiculously lame. We got mopey Mr fantastic who used his powers like twice, terrible cgi silver surfer, and the rest of the characters were just boring. None of them stood out or wowed. To make matters worse, the whole “magic baby saves everything in the end” was just dumb. The group that I was with all agreed it was a waste of time, and I had given it the highest rating out of all of us.
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Orphasmia Apr 15, 2026 +2
The plot felt very Disney which is infuriating. Felt like someone prompted Claude AI to make a more mature version of The Incredibles
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DJWGibson Apr 14, 2026 +2
Honestly, it was a miracle it lasted as long as it did without a drop. Everything they did was historic. It was a matter of time before things had a downturn. But does sound like *Doomsday* is testing well and their last couple films were good.
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RarelyReadReplies Apr 15, 2026 +1
I can't argue with your first point. The fact they strung together that many movies in an incredibly satisfying way, is truly amazing. I can't wait til my kid is old enough to watch them in a few more years. I will hold off rewatching til then and just look forward to sharing that magic with my kid soon enough.
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DJWGibson Apr 15, 2026 +1
As we've seen by other attempts, it's not easy to do a shared universe. Or even get a film out without development hell getting in the way. One director that proved to be unworkable and delayed a project or people not watching one early movie would have killed it. Had RDJ relapsed or Whedon been outed as an a****** earlier or *Iron Man 2* bombing or Joe Johnston not being able to get *Captain America* out in time and the whole thing would have failed. And just how far they've taken being authentic to the comic books. I remember watching the first *Avengers* in theaters and seeing them land on the SHIELD aircraft carrier and thinking "*oh, that's a nice nod to the Helicarrier but grounded in reality.*" We weren't that far out from the Nolan Batman films and trying to make everything "realistic." And then the f****** thing started flying! They were overdue for a big failure or two. And the recent films... That's tricky because stuff like *Thunderbolts* and *Fantastic Four* and even *The Marvels* weren't bad in a vacuum. The problem is, since they're part of the MCU, they're being compared to the highs of every MCU movie as a collective whole. It's not "Is *The Marvels* better than *Thor* or *Iron Man 3* or *Guardians 2*" but "Is *The Marvels* better than *Endgame* with a decade of emotional set-up?" Just being as good as it used to be isn't enough. The bar is too high.
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wojx Apr 14, 2026 +3
I loved Shang Chi but I’ll admit the Marvel magic wasn’t totally there. Still better than the other projects they released around that time imo
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greenufo333 Apr 15, 2026 +1
Sinxe endgame we can pretty much rely on spiderman and that's it
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FatalPissShivers Apr 15, 2026 +1
Thunderbolts was fun, character-driven with a smaller scope. Very funny too. Solid 7/10.
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Zaladin03 Apr 15, 2026 +1
Wait, how many years ago?
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rjames24000 Apr 15, 2026 +1
funny endgame was when they cut off tony stark, aside from shang-chi their movies just havent been as good. marvel without iron man is just a sad reminder of the end times
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Blueberry_H3AD Apr 14, 2026 -5
They are not struggling lol. Despite negative reaction to a lot of Phase 4 and 5, all but a small few made good profit.
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Ok-Sea9612 Apr 14, 2026 +9
When you put up 150m upfront and spend that and get the modest profit a year plus later it's not really all that great versus what you could get just putting that same amount into a high yield savings option or into a higher margin pixar or live action remake
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Orphasmia Apr 15, 2026 +2
The idea of Disney opening up a Marcus account is frying me
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KumagawaUshio Apr 14, 2026
4 out of the last 7 lost money on their theatrical release and 1 at best broke even. Disney+ viewership for all of them was abysmal as well so not much ancillary revenue either.
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Blueberry_H3AD Apr 14, 2026 +2
Only The Marvels and Quantumania didn’t turn a profit.
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KumagawaUshio Apr 15, 2026 +2
Neither did Thunderbolts or Captain Falcon.
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Underwater_Karma Apr 14, 2026 +1
Quantumania made almost half a billion box office.
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Blueberry_H3AD Apr 14, 2026 +2
And the marketing and production costs matched that box office take. Edit: I believe this was the era when they were spending a lot of money on reshoots to change the endings. So that ballooned the budget.
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KumagawaUshio Apr 15, 2026 +2
You realise the studios only get 50% of that? that theatre chains take half and that film cost over $300 million before marketing.
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unitedfan6191 Apr 14, 2026 -1
>Marvel Studios have been struggling since Endgame and the comics are absolutely awful right now. I wonder what impact this will have. It’s true they’ve been less consistent since Endgame and some terrible movies and factually there has been a decline in creativity and box office for sure. But they’ve still been generally very solid and their batting average isn’t what it was but their decline has been overblown in the echo chamber of Listnook. People forget that in MCU phase 1 and 2 there were some real clunkers/underwhelming movies, but if we compare to that epic run until Endgame, of course it’s going to look bad.
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confusing_roundabout Apr 15, 2026 +14
My hot take is that I find the phase 1 movies (and a good chunk of phase 2) far better than phase 3 and beyond. Phase 1 still had real sets and locations. People can dunk on Thor (and its dutch angles) all they want but it's a far better movie than the most recent MCU offerings. The sequence where he tries and fails to get his hammer back has actual depth to the shots and really feels like it's in a military enclosure in a desert, even though it was a set. Quite a few MCU movies from phase 3 and 4 felt like I was watching a slideshow with how bad the green screen was.
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ds629 Apr 15, 2026 +5
Man that "real sets and locations" thing is a huge part of it, for me. I've actually felt like older movies, like from the 2000s, movies that I didn't even see 20 years ago and only now have watched, and also mid-budget movies, feel more real than newer stuff. Sure movies 20 years ago had a lot of green screen (Star Wars prequels), but the amount in the MCU now is too distracting. Yeah Infinity War, Endgame, and Civil War has a lot of that too (the airport background looks like a video game). But it wasn't yet ultra distracting for me back then (shit, Civil War is 10 years old now). Plus, one of my other huge gripes with post-Endgame stuff, which I haven't seen all of it either because I agree it feels like a chore, is that so many movies now are world-ending threats. The big world-enders were when you'd call in The Avengers. Now, a world-ending threat is just another regular weekday.
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unitedfan6191 Apr 15, 2026 +4
A couple things here: 1. I think with a lot of directors they picked during phase 1 and 2 (and to an extent 3), they were willing to give a little more freedom to integrate elements of their style into their films. With guys like Branagh, Gunn and Waititi, you could see their distinct styles. Even more recently, Raimi was able to kind of do his thing on Multiverse of Madness. 2. Also the MCU had a more cohesive, overarching vision, but as mentioned above certain directors were also able to integrate elements of their style into their films, so I think this combination worked very well for them. 3. As you said, they used more physical locations early on and I think this was in part an example of directors having more freedom before Marvel Studios became this massive entity under the ownership of Disney, but being that Disney own them now, their grip has tightened over time and you can tell even in some movies pre-Endgame but now it’s more obvious without as much of an overarching story and with Disney asking for more productions in TV and film during this time, it has taken a toll on the likes of Feige and his team who created and ran the MCU and why they haven’t been as consistently good recently. Plus, when they do give some directors more freedom now, we get movies like Eternals, which are received poorly.
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amyknight22 Apr 15, 2026 +3
> Also the MCU had a more cohesive, overarching vision, but as mentioned above certain directors were also able to integrate elements of their style into their films, so I think this combination worked very well for them. I think the difference back then is that the stories weren't written as a service to something else going on in the universe. They had the advantage of being relatively new for each characters. But the long long term plan didn't prevent anything of note. Now my guess is things are far more restricted in the things you can do because they have XYZ long term plan, or because "you can't tell that story with this character, because we're basically doing the same thing over here with this character"
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Zealot_Alec Apr 15, 2026 -1
RR fallout with his wife's insane lawsuit Deadpool might be put on the back burner for a while or outright re-casted
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we-made-it Apr 14, 2026 +8
Is this the downside of Disney owning so much of the pie that 1,000 jobs doesn’t seem much? If we broke up that conglomerate, had real open competition, maybe the entertainment market would be better, and there would be job growth.
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PcHelpBot2030 Apr 14, 2026 +5
As of right now, not a chance there would be job growth and if anything (in an odd way) Disney is holding a lot of the job market together as more financers are willing to back them through rough patches than they would a bunch of smaller companies. Right now, is a major winding down as higher interest rates has made borrowing more expensive and triggering many to do some deep review on just how much entertainment production is actually viable. Disney at least has the history and core IP's to last it through. You could potentially argue if there wasn't as strong of a conglomerate there wouldn't have been as much over hiring thus not as many layoffs.
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Worthyness Apr 15, 2026 +2
no real difference. a lot of global companies like disney also lay off people in this amount all the time, especially when the economic future isn't exactly great and the job market is shitty. They likely re-hire some people once the bottom is out and greener futures look good. And they can now hire those future people for lower wages.
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KumagawaUshio Apr 15, 2026
They don't own that much they just get a disproportionate amount of press. Disney across all it's labels releases about 20 films or less a year out of the 300+ that get released in the US. Disney is big mostly because they have key I.P and have the parks which make them so much bigger than pure play media companies.
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KumagawaUshio Apr 14, 2026 +5
How many of those work at the parks compared to film and TV production? since this seems to be hitting the Entertainment and ESPN divisions not the Experiences division.
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DJWGibson Apr 14, 2026 +1
More than half work at the parks apparently. But that's still 100k everywhere else.
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LollipopChainsawZz Apr 14, 2026 +14
I really wonder what Marvel and the MCU will look like after Secret Wars maybe they plan on slowing down a bit?
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Ambitious-Comb-8847 Apr 14, 2026 +19
We know bits. Daredevil and Wonder Man will keep live action TV alive. (Vision show later this year before Doomsday too). Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man and X-Men 97 both have at least 2 more seasons. Marvel Zombies is also apparently coming back. There's early work being done for Black Panther 3 and a "youth focused" X-Men reboot.  They're supposedly still very high on Deadpool.
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KumagawaUshio Apr 14, 2026 +9
Black Panther 3 is a long way off as Coogler is working on the X-Files reboot first and he's writing and directing it. Streaming animation isn't going to be pulling big viewership numbers but is pretty c**** as are Daredevil and Wonder Man for live action.
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MadHiggins Apr 15, 2026 +8
oh great, the return of the Vax Panther. still can't believe that out of all the many many options of who to make the new Black Panther, they chose pretty much the worst option both in the story and also a real life person who is terrible.
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XenonBug Apr 15, 2026 +1
Uhhhhh…The third movie should be focused on a new T’Challa so whatever you think about Shuri should be put to the wayside.
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MadHiggins Apr 15, 2026 +4
well that's hilarious because it means that i'm not the only one who felt this way. still blows my mind that they didn't just make The General played by the walking dead Michonne actress the new black panther.
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SanX1999 Apr 15, 2026 +1
Shuri was a cannon option. Other wild option would have been a resurrected Killmonger with some McGuffin have him takeover as well. Those two were the better options in the hand that they were dealt. Okoye or Lupita Ngyong would have been Marvels level disasters, in a sense that core audience would have rejected it straight away.
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KumagawaUshio Apr 14, 2026 +10
They are waiting to see who breaks out in Doomsday and Secret Wars to see how to go forward. It's why I'm surprised none of the younger cast have been announced as in Doomsday to give them a chance to break out in a big film like how Chris Evans Captain America broke out in Avengers after the middling performance of Captain America: The First Avenger.
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Alt4816 Apr 15, 2026 +2
More than that they're waiting to see if Doomsday is success. After the Fantastic Four movie disappointed at the box office it feels like Doomsday and Secret Wars have the whole future of the IP on their shoulders. They've pulled out all the stops for these movies including bringing back Downey and Evans so if they don't live up to their financial expectations they don't have many more levers to pull. At that point they would only have Deadpool and Spiderman as their dependable movies and the latter they have to work with Sony to keep making.
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IndividualHouse8628 Apr 14, 2026 +3
I remember hearing somewhere that Marvel as a whole is getting a soft reset
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ArrowNut7 Apr 14, 2026 +1
Who’s the next big bad after Dr Doom?
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KumagawaUshio Apr 15, 2026 +1
Someone from the X-Men so lots of choices.
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Shepherdsfavestore Apr 14, 2026 +6
It’s interesting to see DC on the up and Marvel on the downlslope after all these years.
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DJWGibson Apr 14, 2026 +6
In terms of comics, that waxes and wanes pretty regularly. In terms of movies, WB is in the process of being sold so we'll see...
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Shepherdsfavestore Apr 14, 2026 +5
Yeah it kind of goes in cycles for comics. DC is just killing it with the Absolute universe
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NoNefariousness2144 Apr 15, 2026 +1
And the DC Compact books are a genius idea and a way for western comics to directly compete with manga, which has been dominating them in sales for years.
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Turbulent_Tale6497 Apr 15, 2026 +1
I think about 120,000 of those are parks employees, though. So this is cutting 1,000 out of 110,000 corporate employees. Still only 1%, and rather unremarkable, as you say. From what I know, Cast Members (what they call parks employees) rarely get laid off, they just stop getting scheduled for hours.
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Leavingtheecstasy Apr 15, 2026 -4
Tbh it might be time for Disney to cut their losses and shut down marvel as a whole i agree.
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itastesok Apr 15, 2026 +3
LOL shut down Marvel. Okay.
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DJWGibson Apr 15, 2026 +1
So... just end the MCU right before *Doomsday*. Stop the next wave of Deadpool and X-Men movies. End the cartoons and video games. Close the comics. The whole shebang?
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Leavingtheecstasy Apr 15, 2026 -2
Not immediately. You finish whatever phase this is with the doomsday era and what not. Then close it up. Superheroes are already played out. If they f*** up one avengers movie its cooked for adecade.
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ModOfficial1988 Apr 14, 2026 +78
The biggest issue Marvel has in both the MCU and the comics is that they keep trying to create a product for a new audience that just isn’t there, while simultaneously taking their existing audience for granted. Listnook loves to shit on the Marvel MAXX and Ultimate comics as being too edgy and dark, but they sold.
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MVRKHNTR Apr 14, 2026 +24
Someone has to be looking at how great the Absolute line is doing for DC and asking why they don't have anything like that already.
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MySonsdram Apr 15, 2026 +15
Wasn’t that what their new Ultimate line was? It’s some of their best selling stuff and it’s great. Shame it’s ending, but for once it seems to be for creative reasons and not a lack of success.
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SanX1999 Apr 15, 2026 +4
Marvel tried to launch a new Ultimate line that coincided with Absolute and gave up mid-way. Not to mention, they keep screwing up with one character that's close to bullet proof, Spidey.
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GollyDolly Apr 15, 2026 +3
Apparently it "was always planned to last 2 years" But why?? Thats stupid as hell, Peach Momoka should get paid for wasting gold on them.
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MySonsdram Apr 15, 2026 +1
The entire set-up for the story was a ticking clock. We have reached the part of the story where time's up. Marvel comics has a lot of problems right now, but having the balls to end something because it's creatively run it's course, even though it's making a ton of money, is actually something I deeply respect.
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GollyDolly Apr 15, 2026 +2
Thats good for Hickman but they clearly signed on Writers with the idea they would contribute to a new universe. Peach found out on twitter that it had a finale planned. They also clearly got people in with the idea of this being a new universe not a closed story being told for a set period of time.
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__Hello_my_name_is__ Apr 15, 2026 +8
Reading on the Absolute line sure is something. > Kal El grew up on Krypton prior to its destruction, and lives as an illegal immigrant on Earth with his AI companion Sol, which functions as his cape and Fortress of Solitude. His close friends include corporate soldier Lois Lane and terrorist Jimmy Olsen. Huh.
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Purple_Compote_386 Apr 15, 2026 +3
You forgot to mention Parasite being his new (very deadly) pet... That book is such a fun and wild ride, and so far keeps getting better and better
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DariusStrada Apr 15, 2026 +1
They do - Ultimate
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Talk-O-Boy Apr 15, 2026 +11
The Ultimate line was the only marvel/DC comic series I read. The others are too overwhelming, and it’s hard to find an entry point. Other than that, I stick to manga and self contained comics like Invincible.
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OnePerformance9381 Apr 15, 2026 +2
I collect graphic novels and don’t really own a single marvel superhero series. Most of my interest lies in one off contained stories with a beginning and ending. Most people I know who collect seem to feel the same.
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POEness Apr 14, 2026 +22
The craziest thing is, you're under Disney. You're the largest entertainment company on the planet. You could, you know, *actually hire good writers and produce movies people adore.* But they just... don't. They took motherfucking Star Wars, the biggest IP on the planet, and took it out back like a dump in an outhouse, because they just couldn't f****** bring themselves to *hire some goddamn writers.*
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PcHelpBot2030 Apr 14, 2026 +20
>*hire some goddamn writers.* This is the biggest lie/trap that people often fall for. In a weird way the more often org seek out to "hire the good writers" the more often they set projects up to fail. Because often it boils down to "hire a writer from something else good" instead of "hire a good writer for this project". Disney did hire a surprising number of notable writers and creators over the last few years. The problem often boiled down to then raising expectations and they were not "MCU" writers trying to then force "MCU" writing. Could go on a book size rant but ultimately, they threw loads of money at getting good individual writers (and creatives and so on) but never expanded on them working as a team or having a good flow.
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pathofdumbasses Apr 15, 2026 +10
> This is the biggest lie/trap that people often fall for. In a weird way the more often org seek out to "hire the good writers" the more often they set projects up to fail. Because often it boils down to "hire a writer from something else good" instead of "hire a good writer for this project". They could hire Patton Oswalt and he would shit out something better than the prequel trilogy or the latest trilogy. But instead they go after directors who have literally no vision and no script. They could be taking script pitches and find something amazing. They just... choose to do stupid shit instead.
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POEness Apr 15, 2026 +6
I don't know who these notable writers are, but all I know is, they gave Rian Johnson full control of episode 8 for example, as both director and writer. And that's insane. And JJ Abrams for 7 and 9? Come on. The dude has a proven track record of making hollow candy.
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Worthyness Apr 15, 2026 +4
Also good writers can come from a line of shitty projects. Craig Mazin before he did stuff like The Last of Us and Chernobyl, wrote the scripts for The Hangover sequels, Scary movie 3 and 4, and The Huntsman: Winter's War. not exactly high quality premium scripting and writing. If you just saw his movie resume, you'd think "well he's probably the most mid writer ever. why would they hire him for The Last of Us? He can't write anything close to the original story"
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fermentedbolivian Apr 15, 2026 +1
Maybe mid writers are the best for the average audience. Bad writers are only liked by less smart people, mid is ok for everyone, and good writers are too heavy for everyone?
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ArtsyTLF Apr 15, 2026 +4
see: Eternals. Chloe Zhao is a great director but clearly didn't have much to say within the superhero genre
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SanX1999 Apr 15, 2026 +2
Writers or directors don't have control. Feige and whatever core committee Marvel had years ago does. Writers and directors are there to lend their credibility to a product that's already been in the pipeline. it's equivalent of hiring an actor and put his name onto a product like Foreman's Grill or something. That's why a lot of writers and directors walk out, because it becomes clear soon enough that their skillset isn't required or doesn't align with Marvel's creative process. The problem you are explaining here is the one Star Wars has. where everyone has too much freedom while having disregard for the franchise, not at MCU.
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RedditConsciousness Apr 16, 2026 +1
> In a weird way the more often org seek out to "hire the good writers" the more often they set projects up to fail. Because often it boils down to "hire a writer from something else good" instead of "hire a good writer for this project". Yep. I'd add that trying to repurpose a good piece of writing made for something else (or its own standalone work) is another side of the same problem. I suspect this has been a problem with Star Trek. "Oh this is a great spec script for a piece of sci-fi. Let's put it in Discovery." And then it makes no sense/doesn't fit in the universe at all.
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KumagawaUshio Apr 15, 2026 +4
It's about hiring writers actually interested in the project and not just the paycheck.
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RedditConsciousness Apr 16, 2026 +1
I mean maybe it is that simple. Or maybe not. One way or another you have to let some people make decisions. Sometimes that works out and sometimes it doesn't. They used to do a dozen drafts for every movie they made. That took a long time. And while it might make a movie you enjoy, it wasn't exactly a distinctive vision either. I kind of think that new Star Wars was at its best with Rogue One and The Last Jedi. With the latter, if you don't already have an overarching plan you need to have Rian Johnson continue the saga or at least continue the path he made. With the former they did bring back Tony to make Andor. Wish we saw more from Gareth Edwards too. As long as he is just directing I think you can end up with a beautiful movie. I can't believe people on listnook and RLM made fun of Rogue One when it came out. Really did not appreciate what they had.
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confusing_roundabout Apr 15, 2026 +2
Glad to see MAX getting a shout out. Marvel aren't even reprinting Punisher MAX despite Bernthal making the Punisher just as popular as he's ever been. They should be releasing a Punisher movie and reprinting the comics but instead they just aren't doing that.
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Alex3884 Apr 15, 2026 +2
I just made a post about how Star Wars is doing the exact same thing; must be a Disney issue.
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RedditConsciousness Apr 16, 2026 +1
What was the old saying? "Marvel. Alienating audiences one crossover event at a time." OTOH, maybe it is natural for audiences to grow out of this stuff. And then younger audiences take their place.
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wump_roast Apr 15, 2026 +15
Marvel about to become 5 executives jerking off into an AI prompt
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Gunnerldn Apr 15, 2026 +7
Isn’t that already?
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RobotFace Apr 15, 2026 +2
Akira Yoshida works in mysterious ways.
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xamott Apr 15, 2026 +20
F****** f****** Disney. If their executives hadn’t forced Marvel to ramp up the output for their stupid streaming app then maybe they wouldn’t have made five years of steaming shit and drive DOWN their f****** profits. Those morons.
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THEbaddestOFtheASSES Apr 15, 2026 +5
That’s what always makes me laugh when it comes to executives. They get paid all that money so you would think they’re smart. It’s always the same old mistake. When something’s successful the immediate response is to ramp up production fast. Which 9 out of 10 times dilutes the product causing profit margins to sink instead of rise. Same mistake time and time again and yet the majority of execs do it over and over again.
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xamott Apr 15, 2026 +1
I think it does. Kevin was much more involved before this happened. They forced him to create more content for their app, and it’s too much content for him to stay involved with all of it. I think it’s pretty clear what benefit there is when he stays involved. Marvel had the best run in the history of movies (most revenue, anyway) while he was involved. Also though, and I’ll get slammed for this, but Joss Whedon was involved with many of those movies in the earlier phases and his departure also coincides with the drop in quality. And of course the moron Disney CEO (not Eiger, but Eiger’s return hasn’t helped at all) fired James Gunn, that was the biggest shoot yourself in the foot ever. He was their last auteur apart from the Russos. So it’s been chaos and it was all inflicted by the Disney top brass. Not my opinion it’s all well documented. Some of it in the book MCU.
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Rhystretto Apr 14, 2026 +21
"The layoffs are right behind me aren't they?"
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versusgorilla Apr 14, 2026 +11
The guy who thinks that joke is funny still has his job, for sure.
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RedditConsciousness Apr 16, 2026 +1
Reminds me of a company I once worked for where a manager called us together to tell us our jobs would not be effected by the merger. He lost his job in the merger.
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Sea-Philosopher7361 Apr 15, 2026 +4
Start from the top
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TheNewKing2022 Apr 14, 2026 +11
marvel has been Pooing out movies since endgame. The profits continue to plummet as well
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rugbyj Apr 15, 2026 +2
The thing is they _can_ make a good movie that simultaneously earns a bajillion dollars if they find someone competent who actually knows the characters and has a vision. Deadpool v Wolverine came out 2 years ago, broke records, got good audience responses, fit in with their larger plans, and earned as much as both prior movies _combined._ But they'd rather farm out characters to writers/directors that'll just "make content" and shut up about it.
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pyrospade Apr 15, 2026 +1
Screw that. What marvel needs is for feige to go back to setting a concrete narrative and executing it. Or a feige equivalent. Someone who has the balls and the power to go and write each movie plot and make sure producers dont go off the rails
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AshleeSchafferBMW Apr 15, 2026 +5
They could afford more employees if they trimmed down the casts to just a few hundred characters and maybe cast a new actor for Dr.doom instead of the same one you used for the last 25 movies 
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ryu5k5 Apr 15, 2026 +2
Totally predictable….new CEO needs to show earnings quickest way is to toss people onto the street…plus the MCU is severely underperforming….
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Rabid_Penguin666 Apr 15, 2026 +2
Time to make a Batman versus Predator movie.
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Prestigious_Fella_21 Apr 15, 2026 +2
*snap*
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meglobob Apr 15, 2026 +1
Not surprising...since Infinity war / endgame, the vast majority of Marvel tv shows / films have been one big turd. The 'kids' have gone from loving the cinematic universe with every fibre of there being to not being seen anywhere near anything Marvel related. What happens when you release a constant, never ending stream of bad movies, tv shows.
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firedrakes Apr 15, 2026 +1
in another sub some one commented. a division of disney has spent way to much money to what they make. also disney itself has been very hard at work on debt being paid off. from a investment stand point. yeah this had to be done to balance the books.
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Gullible-Coconut-783 Apr 15, 2026 +1
They should fire everyone and sell marvel.
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vivalabasss Apr 15, 2026 +1
Wait until the magic cards come out later this year
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vroart Apr 15, 2026 +1
So like is story board department cut? Keyframes? These are elements of marvel the directors keep praising so much they hire their own art teams for personal work.
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fermentedbolivian Apr 15, 2026 +1
Not surprised since Disney raised prices, we had no multiple good Marvel content, nor Star Wars content, the past two years. They are profit-maxxing right now.
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Frankrheins Apr 15, 2026 +1
Maybe this could be the rise of a new Hero? Super-Serf, the guy who will work for less. 75 percent of the quality of formerly employed skilled artisans guaranteed -- for half the price!!
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NeuroTrophicShock Apr 15, 2026
It's always the people that don't deserve to be fired that suffer while untalented people in upper management get to keep their jobs!
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Greatsnes Apr 15, 2026 +1
What in the f*** are you talking about? Edit: OPs comment was gibberish but they edited it now.
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jrezzz Apr 15, 2026
i can help, i have some critical thinking skills. they are saying cuts like these are usually based on greed and its the good people that get cut. and they arent wrong.
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Greatsnes Apr 15, 2026 +2
They edited their comment. It did NOT say that before lmao. They cleaned it up to make sense.
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neck_iso Apr 15, 2026 +1
MCU was the last long term big pre phone-is-everything movie franchise. There won't be another like it. Audiences are much more fragmented and it's unlikely any IP will hold their attention for that amount of time.
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Krow101 Apr 15, 2026 +1
They had a core audience that they walked away from. When you stop making what the people who buy your stuff want ... well.
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CjPatars Apr 14, 2026 -8
Marvel has been tanking for half a decade
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confusing_roundabout Apr 14, 2026 +25
The comics are the worst they've been in 20 years too. This for me feels like the worst Marvel comics period since the bankruptcy.
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surgartits Apr 14, 2026 +7
I have no idea how Cebulski is still EIC. He’s been in that seat going on 9 years and his strikes FAAARRRR outnumber his hits. I know actual comic professionals like to say the average reader has no idea what people do behind the scenes. Even if that’s true, if you are the creative head of company, and your market share has evaporated under your watch? You shit the bed.
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GoggleDMara9756 Apr 15, 2026 +3
Yeah I feel like DC has kinda been trouncing Marvel comics wise, especially with the Absolute lines
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NotASalamanderBoi Apr 15, 2026 +1
DC and Marvel have been coming out with crossover comics, though. So at least something good is coming of all of this. Superman/Spider-Man is set to release soon.
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GoggleDMara9756 Apr 15, 2026 +1
Yeah I’m excited for that one! I’m not super down on marvel or anything, I just feel like DC’s recent output has tended to do better both in terms of buzz in the community and quality
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CjPatars Apr 14, 2026 +6
I agree
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jez124 Apr 14, 2026 -1
I think thats exagerrating things a bit tbh.
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Stinky_TheCat Apr 14, 2026 +5
If you follow comics - creative wise and sales trend wise, its not an exaggeration.
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Adamsoski Apr 15, 2026 +3
20 years ago was 2006. I think it's a fair estimation that Marvel comics are at their lowest point since 2006. I'm not sure where you could point to between now and then that was lower.
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confusing_roundabout Apr 14, 2026 +2
Maybe I'm just salty because X-Men has been utterly wrecked in the most recent relaunch. Any recent progress has been abandoned in favour of c**** nostalgia grabs and forced crossovers.
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RarelyReadReplies Apr 14, 2026 +5
Weird that you got downvoted for this one, while everyone seems to agree with the sentiment. I certainly do. Huge nosedive after End Game.
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CjPatars Apr 14, 2026 +5
Yeah i dont get it
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clauderbaugh Apr 15, 2026
Ah perfectly balanced, like all things should be.
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idontknowjuspickone Apr 14, 2026 -9
Thanks to the pending merger between Warner brothers and paramount no doubt! Thanks trump!
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