Send them all of to the iran.war if they want to play war
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Some_Conference20913 days ago
+196
In the shifting political climate of the second Trump administration, where the FBI has openly rerouted resources away from investigations of far-right extremists, [the Base](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/22/neo-nazi-terror-the-base) appears free to organize and prepare for their stated objective of fomenting an armed insurgency against the US government.
I thought I saw [Ronaldo Nazzaro](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/24/neo-nazi-group-the-base-leader-russian-spy-allegations) in one of the pics.
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ToastedSoup3 days ago
+76
Ah, "the Base", literally "Al-Qaeda" in English.
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LegendarySurgeon3 days ago
+35
Those children would be furious if they could read
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korinth863 days ago
+51
"Stand back and standby"
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aerost0rm3 days ago
+23
Yet many of these militia’s joined ICE to be able to take the actions they wanted and get paid to do it…
23
Slayer19733 days ago
+55
I agree with the sentiment, but I don’t want them to indiscriminately kill Iranians either.
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Slight-Hedgehog2593 days ago
+52
Im pretty sure most of them would shit their pants and cry for mama as they run for the hills when in a real war situations.
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DontDoomScroll3 days ago
+22
They want to be a “one man gay Jew wrecking crew.” not Himmler's foot soldiers. [Samuel Woodward](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Blaze_Bernstein).
They want to be a "one man race war" [Joseph Paul Franklin](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Paul_Franklin).
They want to be [Hunter](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hunter_(Pierce_novel)).
Imagining fascists as wanting to engage in "real war" fails to grasp the trajectory of American Nazi real world goals because they understand a fourth reich is not feasible in their life time.
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Open_Section99713 days ago
+2
>They want to be Hunter
They just want his massive member. So much bigger than any of theirs.
2
RoomieOomfie3 days ago
+20
I'm honestly not a fan of downplaying an active threat like this. A lot of them are suicidal, fanatical, and desperate, there have been many instances of them dying in a shootout with police, and just a few months ago one of them shot a few firefighters to death in Northern Idaho.
The threat is legitimate and dangerous and needs to be counteracted, in my opinion, by community organization and training, rather than dismissing them as barbarians or whatnot.
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react_dev3 days ago
+12
If Iran ran a propaganda campaign saying they’re fighting nazis I’m not sure I’d push back
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Squire_II3 days ago
+6
It's not like they'd be wrong. The US government has white supremacists and Neo-nazis in multiple leadership roles.
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aerost0rm3 days ago
-1
Honestly they should. It will make the Iranians even more fanatical and end things sooner.
-1
DontDoomScroll3 days ago
+19
They want to play hate crime on weaker people who are minorities. Not an equal fight. Fascists hate an equal fight.
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DisManibusMinibus3 days ago
+9
They're bullies, not warriors.
9
Shesversatile3 days ago
+2
My thoughts exactly.
2
wdomeika3 days ago
+509
Nothing to see here...just local ICE training.
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Some_Conference20913 days ago
+124
I'm sure some ICE agents _do_ belong to groups like this. The Guardian article for this post was able to positively ID one police officer in this event.
_In attendance was Joshua Hunt, a one-time police officer in Charleston, West Virginia._
He's a black belt jiujitsu instructor as well.
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Guy_GuyGuy3 days ago
+63
Stockpiling all the guns, self-defense martial arts, and training at secret compounds, itching to "defend" themselves against icky poor people when they have the gall to ask for their basic living needs to be met.
63
Dejhavi3 days ago
+61
Nothing new:
* [How Militias Became the Private Police for White Supremacists](https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/08/17/white-supremacists-militias-private-police-215498/) (2017)
* [White supremacists and militias have infiltrated police across US, report says](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/aug/27/white-supremacists-militias-infiltrate-us-police-report) (2020)
* [Prevalence of white supremacists in law enforcement demands drastic change](https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/prevalence-white-supremacists-law-enforcement-demands-drastic-change-2022-05-12/) (2022)
* [ICE Recruiters Are Using Neo-Nazi Memes and Seeking Out Extremists at Gun Shows](https://truthout.org/articles/ice-recruiters-are-using-neo-nazi-memes-and-seeking-out-extremists-at-gun-shows/) (2026)
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Some_Conference20913 days ago
+22
[Here is another sketchy project](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/ice-plans-to-spend-180-million-on-bounty-hunters-targeting-immigrants/ar-AA1R7iZQ):
$180 million for private groups that hunt down immigrants. Civil liberties be damned.
More tax payer money for extremists: [US federal contractor hired white supremacist, Patriot Front, for wildfire relief](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/feb/09/patriot-front-agriculture-department-contractor)
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Some_Conference20913 days ago
+11
"Awareness is the greatest agent for change." ~
Thank You. \
Promoting awareness is important. \
Some are blissfully unaware of what lurks in the crevices of society.
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noonesaidityet3 days ago
+1
Some of those that work forces and all that jazz.
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Sterbs3 days ago
+3
> I'm sure some ICE agents do belong to groups like this.
*Some?*
I'll give ICE more credit than it deserves by assuming not all are neo-nazis. But i would bet that the vast majority of neo-nazis work at ICE (or some other law enforcement agency). ICE is exactly the type of job these guys have wet dreams about, and hundreds of millions of dollars have been spent advertising *to these people specifically.*
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Aldo_says3 days ago
+1
A bunch of morons running around the woods in the dark pretending to be the screaming eagles or something.
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AudibleNod3 days ago
+265
>Experts have warned that these groups, which mix rightwing extremism with fitness and combat sports to recruit and radicalize members of communities across the US, pose a potential public danger.
What do they call the fitness regimen? Iron Cross Fit? Klalisthenics?
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killthepatsies3 days ago
+339
Krav MAGA
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[deleted]3 days ago
+1
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killthepatsies3 days ago
+18
While I appreciate the further information, let's respect the sanctity of the bit
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sexisfun19863 days ago
+71
At a guess MMA.
There have been issues with MMA Neo Nazi clubs.
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International_Cow_173 days ago
+4
Like the UFC?
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sexisfun19863 days ago
+2
The same sport but not the brand as far as I know.
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International_Cow_173 days ago
+5
Take a gander at what Dana White does and with who.
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sexisfun19863 days ago
+3
I’m sure, I prefer my ignorance.
I don’t care about the ufc in general and I can’t keep track of famous Neo Nazis
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International_Cow_173 days ago
+1
Fair. Have a good evening!
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saskatoonshred3 days ago
+35
They almost always call themselves "Active Clubs". They are copying similar groups in Europe.
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Some_Conference20913 days ago
+15
Some have ties to Russian fight clubs.
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dc_boffin3 days ago
+5
They work out with Führious intensity.
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bagofpork3 days ago
+9
>What do they call the fitness regimen? Iron Cross Fit? Klalisthenics?
White Powerlifting?
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-XanderCrews-3 days ago
+3
It’s probably a fight club, but they can’t say.
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witchgrove3 days ago
+108
knew itd be the wolves of vinland before opening the link. bunch of f****** losers.
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Hot_Local_Boys_PDX3 days ago
+23
Same, as soon as I saw “Virginia”.
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Hot_Local_Boys_PDX3 days ago
+6
You’re misinterpreting my comment. I’ve known about the Wolves of Vinland for years and know they have this compound in Virginia.
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barnhairdontcare3 days ago
+1
Oh apologies! I completely misunderstood
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Hot_Local_Boys_PDX3 days ago
+2
All good mate 🫡
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I_might_be_weasel3 days ago
+36
Nothing good ever happens in a building referred to as a compound.
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Negative_Gravitas3 days ago
+16
Well now THAT is a bunch of scary diphit thugs.
But this in particular set off my spider sense:
>A Guardian investigation found that participants in the Virginia gatherings included . . . a one-time West Virginia police officer who now runs a grappling gym catering to small children, . . .
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Some_Conference20913 days ago
+5
Part of the strategy they are using RN is to recruit teenagers. There are a lot of terminally online impressionable minds that are easy for them to indoctrinate. They've been for at least a few years using gaming forums, dojos, gyms, martial arts studios for recruitment.
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ruminaui3 days ago
+32
Is wild how this is just normal. Yeah Neo Na is are training, is legal and cops are there with them.
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Mike_Raphone993 days ago
+23
It is unfortunately not at all uncommon. Virginia is host to many hate groups
https://www.splcenter.org/hate-map/
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kansei73 days ago
+4
in Virginia this stuff is kind of just out in the open as "cultural heritage", celebrated if anything.
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jetforcegemini3 days ago
+66
I didn’t know ICE provided PTO
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AggressiveSkywriting3 days ago
+21
It's a voluntary work training seminar!
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Vio_3 days ago
+4
"HR team building exercises!"
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BadAsBroccoli3 days ago
+3
It's the "too scared to join the military" mosh pit
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Andovars_Ghost3 days ago
+12
I thought these were known as ‘rallies’. You know, Klan Rally, Nazi Rally, Moron Rally, Limp-D*** Rally, Incel Rally. The list goes on.
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braxin233 days ago
+6
You forgot Trump rally but then again I guess you could consider a moron rally a Trump rally.
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Andovars_Ghost3 days ago
+4
Po-tay-toh / Po-tah-toh
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Skullsandcoffee3 days ago
+86
Y’all laugh when you should be out buying guns and training. You already know who these chucklefucks will be siding with when civil war 2 kicks off. Who’s gonna fight for you?
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cloudncali3 days ago
+7
Apparently Black Panthers are the only one who got the memo.
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BadAsBroccoli3 days ago
+5
We have that huge terrorist group Antifa on our side.
Edit: sarcasm
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Some_Conference20913 days ago
+6
In the shifting political climate of the second Trump administration, where the FBI has openly rerouted resources away from investigations of far-right extremists, [the Base](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/dec/22/neo-nazi-terror-the-base) appears free to organize and prepare for their stated objective of fomenting an armed insurgency against the US government.
I thought I saw [Ronaldo Nazzaro](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/apr/24/neo-nazi-group-the-base-leader-russian-spy-allegations) in one of the pics.
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Skullsandcoffee3 days ago
If by against the US Govt you mean Democrats, then yes. Same/similar groups attended the J6 rally. This is absolutely who Trump deputizes when he calls for marshal law.
0
beermaker3 days ago
+5
*Martial law...
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Skullsandcoffee3 days ago
+2
Yeah that one’s on me!
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AggressiveSkywriting3 days ago
+21
Most of these chodes are gonna turn on each other violently, OD, or suffer Death By Cop like they always do. Or they end up back in prison because their founders can't help but go back to their lives of crime.
Edit: It's important to remember that, while these are dangerous losers, there are not enough of them to pose some sort of united threat. There's a reason the article talks about how the "loose network" is groups across the globe and they're moving to rural compounds: they have trouble finding like-minded losers willing to show up and DO anything. The Virginia group is like 50 to 100 people \*according to the founder\* who has all the reason to exaggerate. In a state of almost 9 million people.
We should keep an eye on them (and so should the law enforcement that aren't card-carrying members), but we do not need to go Self-Defense Bunker Protocol over them.
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Skullsandcoffee3 days ago
+33
Saying be prepared to defend yourself doesn’t necessarily mean go full on bunker/prepper status. I’m not sure if you’ve looked around, but things aren’t exactly going well in the US for the last decade, and the side that aligns with the Cheeto happen to be the side that owns like 70% of the guns. As I said to the other person, I hope you’re right. If not, I hope you’re prepared to defend yourself.
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Some_Conference20913 days ago
+13
I'm concerned because... Some of them are in law enforcement. They are targeting teens and younger for recruitment. Trump has explicitly instructed the FBI to ignore right wing terrorist groups.
EDIT:
I just read that they used GoFundMe to crowd source funding. The wolves of vinland apparently have a cheesey clothes brand too
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Drone3143 days ago
+13
There is also a pattern of white supremacist violence in America. They do some violent and radical and everyone remembers they exists, crackdown ensues and they go dormant for a while. Rise, rinse and repeat. One of them will do something vial and restart the cycle.
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TwoPoundzaSausage3 days ago
+1
I would be more afraid of any 60+ year old deer hunter than I would be of these wannabes. Those old dudes can just disappear completely in the woods, and they can usually reliably hit a target the size of a dinner plate from 600+ yards.
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Monteze3 days ago
+1
I can laugh and be prepared.
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No_Service_81743 days ago
-9
Can't buy guns in VA anymore
-9
ProofByVerbosity3 days ago
-20
You think these try hard pu$$ies are an actual threat to anything?
They need to be on a mass shooting waych list but they are no soldiers.
-20
Skullsandcoffee3 days ago
+19
So you admit they’re capable of extreme violence, yet you refuse to believe they’ll use it when called upon and told they are allowed to? Hope you’re right. If not I hope you’re prepared to defend yourself.
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FunetikPrugresiv3 days ago
-4
This is like a couple dozen losers that are training in hand-to-hand combat to make themselves feel better about their own fragile masculinity. They're small scale threats that would be utterly worthless in any sort of combat with firearms.
-4
ProofByVerbosity3 days ago
-18
Im not an American so Im not physically in danger of the dumpster fire there. Only financially exposed to it.
I never said they weren't capable of violence, clearly you didnt read my post or it was too nuanced.
-18
interkin3tic3 days ago
+9
>Licensed school teacher and one-time police officer among those participating in riot-style gatherings as experts warn of threat to public safety
How much you want to bet that both listen to Rage Against the Machine and imagine it's talking about taxes or something.
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ParadeSit3 days ago
+8
Their motto: “Home of the pardoned J6’ers”
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galahad4233 days ago
+7
"Inside Stephen Miller's weekend getaway"
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thefugue3 days ago
+6
These are paramilitary groups and countries that don’t treat them as organized crime are shit holes.
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Top-Pair16933 days ago
+17
Someone talked about fight club
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ThePensiveE3 days ago
+9
Just the PPP practicing.
"Pedophile Protection Phorce."
Never said these yokels were smart.
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badassbisexualbitch3 days ago
+4
Just once I’d like to see my home state in the news for something nice. Just once.
But no. It’s the neo-Nazis. Again. Can’t say I’m surprised.
Virginia is for lovers, my ass.
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o_MrBombastic_o3 days ago
+6
Just Republican things
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DazedinDenver3 days ago
+4
While the right-wing media keeps claiming these jerkoffs shouldn't be called fascists, they're openly proclaiming "what their founder called a “tip-off point for a fascist cultural revolution”."
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Yiplzuse3 days ago
+4
There is a reason for all the extra detention space. I don’t trust felons.
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skiphandleman3 days ago
+3
Like I always say. At least we know where they are.
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GeistMD3 days ago
+3
Its sucks that humans as a whole don't actually live that long, yet so many wish to make others suffer. Like why? Why not chill, relax, enjoy the short ride. Evil people suck.
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_TheWileyWombat_3 days ago
+2
The article mentions Lynchburg (no surprise) but do we know where *exactly* in or around Lynchburg?
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Glum_Mobile56633 days ago
+2
LMAO little shitstain roleplaying PA toughie. Suburban little prick with racist daddy's money, guaranteed.
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SlinkySlekker3 days ago
+2
Yet they’re too cowardly to enlist.
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HighOverlordXenu3 days ago
+2
As a native Virginian...anyone got a trebuchet?
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So_spoke_the_wizard3 days ago
+2
It's Lynchburg. I'm sure Liberty University students can attend for athletics class credit.
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BrofessorFarnsworth3 days ago
+2
They're called "ICE recruitment offices". Nothing secretive about them.
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hillbilly-edgy3 days ago
+2
Send em to Iran to help out
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polysoupkitchen3 days ago
+5
They call in lynchburg for a reason.
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Kingofcheeses3 days ago
+16
It's ironically named after abolitionist John Lynch
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ni_hao_butches3 days ago
+10
Oddly, they believe his brother is where the term lynching came from.
Let's be honest though, it's VA. Even in 1998 I had a high school history teacher call it the war of northern aggression, and would drive on Jefferson Davis Highway to go play baseball againt Stonewall Jackson High....in this was in the "People's Republic of Northern Virginia."
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god_is_my_father3 days ago
+2
Robert E Lee alum checkin in
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ostuberoes3 days ago
+2
yes, there was a man called John Lynch who ran a ferry there.
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polysoupkitchen3 days ago
+3
Also, you might get lynched.
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ostuberoes3 days ago
+2
That's exactly why I live in Bumpass, because that's how the world works.
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devonnull3 days ago
+1
He was a quaker, so...probably not.
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Drewpig3 days ago
+2
Send them to the Middle-East.
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Artistic_Half_83013 days ago
+1
Yeah, that's how I'd like to spend my weekends. Lol
1
Vic-Trola3 days ago
+1
What else would Nazis do? Hold a bake sale?
1
FcUhCoKp3 days ago
+1
What a waste of a life. I feel bad for their children.
1
FormerPrize24853 days ago
+1
Is that what “stand back and stand by” meant?
1
Gonzo_19633 days ago
+1
The army is recruiting fellas
1
horhar3 days ago
+1
Oh... that's my old hometown...
I'm pretty sure I used to be neighbors with a few people in this
1
CyxTheDragon3 days ago
+1
Isn't this old news? I remember this headline from years ago. Crazy that nothing can be done about them but considering this administration, I'm not surprised
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TryharderJB3 days ago
+1
The first rule of fight club…
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bright_sunshine193 days ago
+1
May be our military can use them for refining their target skills
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davidc22993 days ago
+1
I'm afraid our military is full of like minded people
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noonesaidityet3 days ago
+1
Wannabe accelerationists. I hate wannabe accelerationists.
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FriendlyBuffaloSky3 days ago
+1
What a bunch of pathetic knuckle draggers.
1
Mammoth_Parsley_96403 days ago
+1
All of the dudes covered in that article- especially the youth fighting referee- ***gon' need to take a look at that hard-drive, brotha!***
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Rurumo6663 days ago
+1
This is called "rough trade" in the MAGA closet community.
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botle3 days ago
There's a plave called Lynchburg? WTF?
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ostuberoes3 days ago
+5
Named after a man called John Lynch, who ran a ferry over the James River.
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AngelsFlight593 days ago
-11
These are the same people that those on the left are expecting to be allies in their glorious revolution against the elites.
Working class unite... indeed.
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8livesdown3 days ago
-32
I'm genuinely curious. Do people who are labeled "neo-Nazi", self-identify as "neo-Nazi"?
I did a bit of googling. The group says it is "Pan-European". This could be construed as racial identity, which is just one step away from racism.
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zenboi923 days ago
+16
Imagine simping for Nazis.
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ProofByVerbosity3 days ago
+9
Is this just trolling?
Self identifying as a made up group doesnt make you a race.
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AggressiveSkywriting3 days ago
+12
They absolutely do self-identify as nazis. You should take a gander at the article.
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Lintcat13 days ago
+5
One step? It's absolutely racism. They aren't pan-European because they only like fantasy versions of specific European cultures.
It's white power bullshit. 100%. They won't call themselves neo-Nazi but they'll get neo-Nazi tattoos...
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8livesdown3 days ago
-6
Thanks for responding. Normally when I click a post here, I typically open multiple browser tabs to research it. Unfortunately, in this case it's a controversial topic.
I didn't want to google "neo-Nazi", because it's a loaded search term. So I googled "active clubs". Based on the contents of those results I tried to find an unbiased opinion.
Normally I would share links. People would respond. We'd have a discussion.
But in this case, that would a big mistake. The lesson I've learned is:
- "Active Club" = Neo-Nazi
- "Pan European" = Neo-Nazi.
- Do not ever question the term Neo-Nazi. If something is labeled Neo-Nazi, simply accept that it is Neo-Nazi.
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Some_Conference20913 days ago
+7
Or read the article about what is being discussed so you can have a more informed contribution. The link is at the top of the page.
Have you ever watched a movie with someone who spends half the movie asking what just happened, what's going on, why did he do that etc
Also, these groups aren't that new. Patriot Front has been around for as long as I've been online.
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zenboi923 days ago
+4
Read the article?? Can’t you see, they _did their own research_ lol.
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Some_Conference20913 days ago
+5
_I'm genuinely curious. Do people who are labeled "neo-Nazi", self-identify as "neo-Nazi"?_
The reason you got shutdown like that is because people who support those ideologies will often start their arguments in support of such ideas asking the same questions. Such behavior is so ubiquitous that most people seeing your comment assumed that you were doing the same. Basically they thought you were covering for neo-nazis, who usually use euphemistic terms to appear more innocent to people who don't know better.
Although something like Patriot Front might not, based on the name, sound like it's neo-nazi to somebody that hasn't looked into it, when you examine the ideology they promote it's actually just fascism. It's the same old stuff with a new veneer or modern spin.
I just wanted to explain this to you in case you were genuine in your curiosity. People are really on edge about this stuff because it's a threat to a peaceful, democratic society. As a result people get very emotional about it. That's why people just reacted, instead of giving you the benefit of the doubt. If you were indeed honestly just curious, because you don't know about it, then it wasn't fair that you received such an abrupt response. I'm as guilty as some of the others here, because my initial response wasn't as helpful as it could have been.
I hope this clears up some of the bewilderment you may have experienced at the replies you received. If you need further information or resources feel free to DM. I may not immediately respond, but I will respond.
I apologize if my earlier response was overly harsh. Sometimes assumption turns people into assholes.
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8livesdown3 days ago
+1
Thanks. That's precisely what I was looking for.
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Soylentgruen3 days ago
+6
They call themselves "Pan-European" to outsiders, but they *wink-wink, nudge-nudge* neo-Nazi to each other.
They dislike the apt moniker of "neo-Nazi" bestowed publicly because of the connotations.
And no, they aren't "Pan-European". Their blood will never be pure as someone from the old world. Their fanfic of racial purity will forever be tainted as they are genetic mutts.
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m1sterlurk3 days ago
+2
If your ideology has a name that is associated with horrific atrocities, chances are that the public-facing name you present will be "sanitized" so that people don't immediately associate you with the horrific atrocity that your ideology caused.
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Spiceguy-653 days ago
+2
Imagine being such a spineless f****** b**** that you argue semantics over what neonazis call themselves
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