Mike Johnson caves to Democrats' DHS funding bill demands

Johnson got informed by the Republican Senate that they, in fact, still have power.

I'm writing this to you directly, even if you do not have editorial control over headlines. Is there a reason why Newsweek and other major media companies uses divisive and combative titles for stories like this? It is the job of Congress to reach agreements and pass legislation. It's not sports. Maybe it's just me but I've noticed that the rise in Trumpian politics, which actually goes back to the Tea Party, also coincides with clickbait/rage bait headlines for everything. Using "caves in" implies that the GOP will have to get revenge later. It tells the reader that the lost this match, can they win the next? But it's not a game. It's our lives. I'm tired of living in a country where retribution is how our country is governed. Revenge politics is a shitty way to run this place. Ragebait as the country's operating system is unpleasant. It's how we got Trump. In the past, we would have a headline like "After Lengthy Debate, House Comes to Agreement on DHS Funding." Then the pundits would add the color to the story in the opinion section. Now, it's opinion first, facts later. The opinion is in the headline even if the story is just straight reporting. The text of this story is standard journalism but the headline feeds into this politics-as-sports narrative about winners and losers and I feel like the impact of this keeps snowballing to a point where the actual point of what Congress does gets lost. They are supposed to compromise. They are supposed to reach agreements. They are supposed to not be little whiny babies that won't do anything unless they can be perceived as winners, which is what we mostly have now.

They’re upset that they lost all of their special flying privileges. That should be standard for every shut down.

Rather than calling it “caving” why don’t we call it “compromises on DHS funding with Democratic provisions.” It might help break our partisan deadlock if we stop seeing everything as zero sum, but rather as a win for the American people because the government taking actions with input from both major parties… so everyone can feel somewhat represented.

I read the article. It doesn't say what the title is claiming. It says he's doing some weasely shit to fund the entire department rather than the Democrat plan to fund everyone besides ICE

Nah, the Dems actually got a decent deal out of the last shutdown, but kind of bombed the messaging on it. The deal was effectively: - Lots of important stuff like food stamps stay funded until October-ish 2026 (right before the elections) and are thus off-limits on the next government shutdown - Republicans will open a vote for Democrat demands on healthcare before late January 2026 - If Democrats do not get their healthcare demands by January 2026, part of the government will shut down again. That's exactly what wound up happening. The current shutdown started more or less as planned, but most people weren't as negatively impacted this time around, so the news didn't really care until airports started having severe disruptions. In theory, the Democrats could have maintained this partial shutdown all the way until the elections, without nearly as much suffering as the previous shutdown for the average American. That's what's forcing the Republicans to negotiate now.

I could be totally talking out of my ass here, but I think the Dems caving on the last shutdown was about getting Congress to vote on releasing the Epstein files as quickly as possible.

Republicans need their spanking. A big part of why Trump is the way he is, is that he never heard no.

NYT is reporting that Dems got none of what they asked for unless I’m misunderstanding

F****** bullshit. But sure, use every Dem victory as a chance to attack them. That really helps /s

The buckling is all part of the plan for corporatist Democrats. They aren't on our side like AOC or Bernie are. Chuck Schumer is a corporatist who profits off his position. He doesn't care.

The Democrats finally stood on business and it’s about time.

Mike Johnson is a spineless little parsnip, that’s how he got the job in the first place, so this can work every single time if they are just willing to stick it out.

Well they did try that once or twice, but the effects were catastrophic while trumo had more breathing soace between then and midterms. Now? His polling is abysmal, and red save havens are flipping blue. They are panicking.

Republicans were holding hostage the people who rely on SNAP. Democrats wanted that to be restored as quickly as possible so they made a handshake deal that also included keeping SNAP benefits off the table from being weaponized that way again this year.  Yeah it sucks that they backed down. But there was a genuine concern that American families were going to starve before an agreement was reached. 

And what a perfect time to reward Democrats their due: Voting & Supporting Democrats now&forever without exception for at least 50 years, so they can retake Congress and Presidency

The first shutdown affected the entire govt…it was smarter to kick the can down the road and hold the line on a partial shutdown with DHS. The fact that Ice & Border Patrol are funded meant less collateral damage and gave the Dems for power to point out the hypocrisy.

He’s just the latest mouthpiece. Trump pulls the strings and Johnson folds the moment the pressure gets real.

>Make it make sense. "It's only wrong when Democrats do it." It's that simple for a lot of folks.

I read the article. It doesn't say what the title is claiming. It says he's doing some weasely shit to fund the entire department rather than the Democrat plan to fund everyone besides ICE

> Make it make sense. Create a problem out of a thing that isn't problematic. propose a solution to your new problem that was exactly the same as (or worse than) the status quo before you made the problem. Pass the resolution. Brag about how good your administration is for passing a resolution. Don't bother with the details because your supports will eat it up anyway.

D-did you just tell the Speaker of the House, Micro Johnson, to commit cannibalism?

Love to watch the GOP to override the president lol..

Passed unanimously in the Senate. Could very well be a veto proof majority 

It will be veto proof, so even if it’s not signed the bill goes into law after a set amount of days.

Standing up to Nancies’

I’m reading that as, “No restrictions, no more funding.” Of course they still have their slush fund from the BBB but that would appear to be it. The rest of DHS, like TSA, will be funded as expected but ICE and BP will not get anything else, essentially taking away any leverage the Republicans have to secure additional funding. That’s how I’m understanding it, but may be wrong.

That part. I'm not satisfied.

Yeah, this is the part I came looking for some information for. I was worried it was another complete loss by the Dems, which thankfully seems to not be the case, but getting nothing on this front is pretty disappointing.

isn't that tied to the funding that was carved out?

The Repubs just showed their hand. Dems should now not agree to funding of any of DHS until ICE reforms are instituted.

policy wasn’t going to be fixed right now. not enough leverage

They got some of their backpay

Absolutely written in a way that makes it seem like Dems are just anti-ICE

Johnson sees the writing on the wall. Self preservation.

They are definitely not I remember going to the airport many many times minimum security and it wasn't till the post 911 surveillance state of fear the population has been foolish to accept

TSA is a jobs program that performs security theater, saying they do anything constructive is hilarious

He could, but he probably won't.

DHS gets funded without ICE/CBP. Repubs have to fund it through reconciliation, which has strict rules. And considering the deficit, the repubs will need to either pare back funding or sell cuts in other areas to the public. They get 100% of the blame for anything they push through reconciliation. Yeah....this is a win....albeit not being a huge win.

They literally got nothing. ICE is already funded through the rest of the year.

\> ICE gets funded through budget reconciliation which only requires majority support. Wouldn't this happen regardless of what dems supported and whether this bill passed or not?

They didn’t pass the attached SAVE act that was going to really affect the mid-terms?? Seems like a win to me

If they use reconciliation then they have to find money somewhere else to fund. So who knows.