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RaisinWorried3528 May 8, 2026 +1747

Say what you will about big Pharma, but if everyone dies they will have no one to fleece. It's in their best interest to keep people alive.

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Unlucky-Bunch-7389 May 9, 2026 +340

At least big pharma is still researching this stuff - while the federal government of the US is acting like vaccines are useless For the first time in my life I can say big pharma is probably less corrupt than our government

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leon27607 May 9, 2026 +48

Big pharma does research for profit. The government is supposed to do it to benefit its citizens but is currently gutting all funding.

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Yourdataisunclean May 11, 2026 +1

Problem is big pharma is heavily reliant on public research for their own pipeline. They do very little unproven discovery work and instead prefer to develop drug candidates from things that already have some proven potential.

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maxdragonxiii May 9, 2026 +17

it also have 40% chance of fatality once you get it. theres no treatments. all they could do is to take care of you until you recover or die.

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imminentjogger5 May 8, 2026 +401

but not too alive right?

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CivicDutyCalls May 9, 2026 +251

Honestly, until fairly recently, it was extremely difficult to find cures for most things. Gene sequencing an entire genome costs like $300 and takes less than 24 hours to run, Google AlphaFold, etc. These things are new and c**** which means most university labs can do this research whereas 10-15 years ago it was still limited to the biggest pharmaceutical companies and best funded universities and even then it was trial and error. Moderna having a vaccine candidate in under a week is a regular thing now, whereas for Covid, having the vaccine candidate available in 48 hours of the Covid sequence being published was literally brand new research.

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CopainChevalier May 9, 2026 +89

There's something depressing about seeing such a rational take and everyone just ignoring it; meanwhile the other comment chains with more upvotes are just talking about how these companies want to kill everyone

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CivicDutyCalls May 9, 2026 +18

Eh. It’s easy to be pessimistic given history of under investment and political sabotage of research. And the whole profit motive. It’s easy to conflate all of the nameless pharma companies together because some key medicines like insulin are predatory or one company literally causing the opioid epidemic. But most pharmaceutical companies literally spend 20 years just researching a drug and get that single drug made and focus on that forever because it’s so difficult to find other drugs. Your problem with the pharmaceutical industry isn’t the people. It’s the capitalists. These small companies are going to start cranking out cures though thanks to these recent breakthroughs

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Sighlina May 8, 2026 +56

Just alive enough to pay the bills. No money in the cure.

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stormelemental13 May 9, 2026 +150

> No money in the cure. Antibiotics are made by 'big pharma' and cure diseases. Vaccines cure diseases. Cancer treatments cure diseases. You can join RFK and jump in a lake.

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Gentleman_Nosferatu May 11, 2026 +4

Always these loser conspiracy theorists when the subject of vaccines arises.

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Naktura May 9, 2026 +158

1. Takes like this show a fundamental lack of understanding in how illnesses propagate inside our bodies and how they are treated. 2. Are you shitting me? The first company to develop a generalized cure for hantavirus or SARs virus strains will be on the path to making multi-billions practically overnight. The scientists involved would have their careers MADE for the rest of their lives. You can pretend that a company doesn't want to cure a disease because the treatment is more effective, but that belief completely falls apart when you remember that the root of all this science is people who spent 8+ years of their life getting a PhD studying how to make more effective treatments for disease.

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KickLassChewGum May 9, 2026 +25

The sooner these people _un_learn their mistaking cynicism for intellect the sooner we can start focusing on the actual f****** problems in this world.

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Telen May 9, 2026 +18

And however sociopathic the suits of the company are assumed to be, the employees absolutely want to develop a cure.

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laser50 May 9, 2026 +11

Yep, it's a good business and the RNA based technology will probably be of good use here. All they really need is for a good virus to hit major headlines to generate enough actual interest for a vaccine like that. They probably could have done this earlier, but no one would have cared.

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Abi1i May 10, 2026 +1

The hantavirus is rare for humans to get, plus because we know how it spreads that it was and is still probably easier to tell people how to not catch it.

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laser50 May 10, 2026 +1

Of course, but you need a market for sales. If the virus was never in the news like this, no one would have cared to hear about a vaccine either way. Now it's got people's attention and a vaccine may be more viable to create. I'm not expecting the virus to go anywhere,.and I certainly hope not. Lung damage vs lung shutdown sounds like a bad deal either way!

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Hym3n May 10, 2026 +1

I'm with you so, so very much. At the heart of it all is some truly amazing people, with nothing but great intentions. BUT. These are for-profit companies. The only thing that matters to the people in charge are the next quarter's profits, everything else be damned. So, unfortunately, it's important to remain skeptical.

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wintersdark May 9, 2026 +58

Kinda dumb take. There's and endless succession of new diseases. Being first to market with a new vaccine for a contagious illness with a 30%ish mortality rate will make *billions*. There will be another. And another. And another.

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4dxn May 9, 2026 +1

But cures are harder to make money. Sovaldi cured hep c. They priced it cheaper than the existing treatment which not only costed more and but also required retreatment. I believe the initial price Gilead wanted was almost half. People went crazy because it was "$1000 per pill for a few months". huge uproar......for something that would've save us money.

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technicallynotlying May 11, 2026 +1

Vaccines are really c**** and easy to produce. You can't really hold out a cure if some other company or country will release a $20 shot that prevents the disease.

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T-Husky May 9, 2026 +8

Ignorant comment upvoted by paranoid wingnuts.

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that-random-humanoid May 9, 2026 +6

Most medical conditions are caused by genetics and/or environmental/lifestyle factors that can take years to manifest. Very few things are actually "cureable". Bacterial and parasitic infections are relatively easy to cure because you need a compound that targets some crucial mechanism that the organisms use to live. Viruses are hard to cure because they are not alive, and highjack your own cells to make more viruses. That's why for most viruses the only thing you can do is support the patient and lessen symptoms. Antiretrovirals are a very new thing and only work for certain viruses. Other than that, yeah, the mainline defense is going to be giving a vaccine that will safely train your immune system to recognize the invader before it gets a strong foothold. Cancer does not have a one-size-fits-all cure because each cancer is unique as it is a mutation of your genome that your immune system failed to recognize, and stop before it caused symptoms. Each treatment is tailor made to the patient, and how their cancer responds to the treatment. It's amazing we are able to treat and cure any cancer at all! And gene therapies are incredibly new and expensive because they are tailor made to the patient and their genetics. We still do not fully understand the true scope and limitations of gene therapies, and most are experimental. If you don't want to accept the limitations of current medical science, you don't, but don't go bashing a science you do not understand.

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thekuroikenshi May 9, 2026 +82

Moderna’s main commercial products are vaccines. Let’s not pretend that vaccines are enormous money makers compared to other drugs in the market. Moderna was a key company in the fight against COVID with its mRNA vaccine and research. They f****** saved lives. I got my Moderna two shot vaccine during Covid and I’m happy as hell that it was available.

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RaisinWorried3528 May 8, 2026 +3

Right? Us normals are on are gd own as usual.

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Apyan May 8, 2026 +1

That's late stage capitalism right here

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SomeGalNamedAshley May 8, 2026 +13

Doing God's work at the Devil's bidding.

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nonoimsomeoneelse May 9, 2026 +13

Moderna counts as big pharma? They were a startup in ~2018. I'm not pro big pharma, Moderna is a disruptor.

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Zealousideal-Bus4712 May 9, 2026 +1

its in their best interest to keep people alive and on their meds.

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Luneriazz May 11, 2026 +1

Sounds like good bussiness.... Where i can invest?

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ukulele87 May 9, 2026 +1

7 billion each paying 10 for the vaccine? Or 70 million paying 1000? Its all the same.

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rectoflector May 8, 2026 +219

We've seen this movie before. it's gonna be Facebook anarchy LOL

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NoMap749 May 9, 2026 +28

Ivermectin may become the most sought after drug in the world for the next few weeks.

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Caesarea_G May 9, 2026 +7

Already, quacks-to-be are pushing ivermectin as a 'cure', and people are falling for it.

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rectoflector May 9, 2026 +3

Have you been to tractor supply lately? I've seen people buying it there as a dietary supplement. It's f****** scary

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jenglasser May 9, 2026 +3

Facebook is already anarchy.

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jsmith_92 May 10, 2026 +1

Already seeing several posts like: “Don’t bother me with COVID Don’t bother me with Hantavirus Don’t bother me with SARS” Or my favorite “Arrest Fauci, Bill Gates, Obama and this all goes away.”

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toughtacos May 10, 2026 +1

I wish it was just a movie.

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spideyghetti May 9, 2026 +71

Did anyone else get choosy over Pfizer or Moderna back in COVID days? It felt like that meme with the guys on a balcony looking down on peasants below them if you got the right one.

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Happy-Gnome May 9, 2026 +32

I got Moderna and was thankful I got it over like Johnson and Johnson or Pfizer. Iirc you basically didn’t have a choice.

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PhysicallyTender May 9, 2026 +10

I was lucky to be stuck in Singapore at that time (probably one of the best places to be in during Covid), and got both Pfizer and Moderna as my shots.

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alotmorealots May 9, 2026 +2

I was stuck in Vietnam at the time, and all we got was Sinovax, plus it was compulsory, too. That said, I have few complaints about the way the Hanoi government handled the situation with the limited resources at their disposal. Quick closure of the border with China, rapid deployment of containment measures and trying their best to follow the science. HCMC residents, on the other hand, probably have less flattering things to say.

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Sunlightningsnow May 9, 2026 +5

In my country +50 years were given Moderna and younger the Pfizer I don't know why tbh.

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einimea May 9, 2026 +26

If I remember correctly, Moderna had a higher active ingredient dosage, so it was a stronger dose. Because of this, a more stronger immune response meant a slightly higher risk of myocarditis for young men under 30 than a lighter Pfizer

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Sunlightningsnow May 9, 2026 +2

Interesting. Thank you

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MoaraFig May 10, 2026 +1

Can confirm. I got a bit of an immune rash (get them sometimes with colds) from a Moderna booster. Got Pfizer as my next dose and was fine.

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vixxienz May 9, 2026 +5

we had Pfizer as the only choice for a long time. The Moderna one became available much later. Im in NZ

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krat0s77 May 9, 2026 +2

I got 5 shots: AstraZeneca x2 (had a bad fever and chills after), Moderna x1 (light fever for 1 night), Pfizer x2 (by far the best, no side effects). I'm in Argentina btw. A lot of people got the Russian Sputnik at first because our incompetent gov at the time made a deal with them and it was the only one available. People that got that one said it was same as nothing, many got COVID after the shot meaning it didn't protect you at all.

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strangedell123 May 9, 2026 +1

Idk, we got a lot of non Russian studies that came to the conclusion that sputnik was very effective. It wasnt Pfizer or moderna level but was north of astrozeneza and JJ

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MoaraFig May 10, 2026 +1

People got COVID after Modena, too. Less than 100% efficacy doesn't mean it didn't do anything.

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CassianCasius May 9, 2026

My wife got super sick from moderna COVID vaccine. I was perfectly fine for the Pfizer one no issues

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Fookmaywedder May 8, 2026 +377

And all the maga idiots will say vaccines are fake news and left wing propaganda

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Complete-Sort1617 May 8, 2026 +104

These ones won’t have microchips, they’ll have brain eating nano bots.

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noir_lord May 8, 2026 +89

So MAGA is safe then.

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Complete-Sort1617 May 8, 2026 +24

*coughs up my drink*

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angryangrybeaver May 9, 2026 +3

The nanobots will starve!

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Rayd8630 May 8, 2026 +5

So this is how we get the Borg.

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LuckyNumber04 May 8, 2026 +5

LOL. Brain eating is right.

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GorgeWashington May 8, 2026 +19

MARBURG IS FAKE. I GAVE MYSELF MARBURG AND IM ONLY BLEEDING FROM MY EYEBALLS A LITTLE BIT. LIBERAL FAKE NEWS.

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IntentionDependent22 May 8, 2026 +16

unfortunately, there's an equally deluded chunk of anti-science leftys (think: crystals, snake oil, vag stones, chiropractors, etc.) that discovered anti-vaxism organically as opposed to having it handed down from on high by the cult leader. It's a both sides issue, no joke.

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NATO_CAPITALIST May 9, 2026 +6

This comment is funny because right above you there's lefties suggesting this is just big pharma looking to barely make people alive so they can have long time customers lmfao The lefts obliviousness to their own conspiracy theorists will never not be hilarious

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cipheron May 9, 2026 +5

Just in case anyone was confused by Marjorie Taylor Greene making sense recently, she's started pushing Hantavirus and Ivermectin conspiracy theories. Also there's a Texas doctor Mary Talley Bowden, reported in the international press as saying Ivermectin is the cure, but when you Google her name it turns out she's direct marketing the stuff to patients in Texas. So, pure grifter who should lose her medical license. Not all the articles about her mention that she's literally selling the stuff, so the journalists are letting us down too.

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arazamatazguy May 8, 2026 +11

Anyone true MAGA will book a cruise on the same ship to show everyone its just the flu.

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Mrexzxxxxxx May 9, 2026 +2

Whilst they drink alcohol and smoke endless cigs

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Jiffyyy May 8, 2026 +6

I swear to god the amount of insane conspiracies about how the government are releasing these viruses to profit and force people to wear masks is just mind boggling. It’s like the concept of any health crisis don’t exist in this world and it’s all fake

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No_Method5989 May 8, 2026 +3

They are never serious. They tried for a while to spread "viruses don't exist" They did the same moronic thing. "Tell me how virus meet the koch postulates, if you can't it doesn't exist durrrrr..." The Koch Postulate was created before we even discovered viruses, so of course you can't comply to that definition. They give the whole game away, they spend hours trying to find some weakness, but never spend any time trying to understand immune systems work or how viruses work. They know nothing about what they are talking about. They are just good at making it sound plausible if you are in the same position (not knowing how anything works). They keep running into the wall hoping one day they phase right through. I spent over 400 hours researching, and went at detailed as I could go, but as soon as a good working model in my head I realize it was huge waste of time. Even guys like Robert Malone can't give a convincing argument for their position. Those people absolutely know better. It's completely deceptive.

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Ze_Secret_Veapon May 8, 2026 +5

It's funny when you ask them "So, if you know this one is fake - what would be the difference if it was a real one?" Their brains goddamn break

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lonewolf210 May 8, 2026 +3

I'm sure they will find a reason but kinda hard to deny its real while coughing up blood

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TheWeeWeeWrangler May 8, 2026 +12

They denied COVID on their literal deathbeds.

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windraver May 8, 2026 +3

My dad had COVID, passed out, barely survived, and still denies it.

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noir_lord May 8, 2026 +1

Shitting blood as well depending on specific species which makes it more or less likely. I’m not super worried about this one, the cruise ship angle and media reporting on the back of a pandemic makes for a good story (where good means clicks).

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redmongrel May 8, 2026 +2

While hantavirus won’t be the thing to do it, letting Trumpers expire by the thousands from their own willful ignorance would be self defense on a global scale.

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Rexxhunt May 9, 2026 +1

The more experimental the better. Sign me up. DNA, RNA, abc, 123 give me all the little goobies.

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Sandslinger_Eve May 9, 2026 +1

Well let's hope this is a real killer pandemic then...might be just what the planet and our species needs

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Synchrotr0n May 9, 2026 +1

Good luck for them when it comes to a disease that has a death rate which is two orders of magnitude higher than covid.

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fache May 11, 2026 +1

That’s fine. Hantavirus is not covid. If it ever became a pandemic (terrifying) you wouldn’t hear a whole lot from anti-vaxxers. Because they would be dead.

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DragonPup May 9, 2026 +1

That just means more vaccines for me.

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Complete-Sort1617 May 8, 2026 +258

Oh *f**** – so big pharma is taking this seriously?

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ResidentNo11 May 8, 2026 +273

They were doing this before the cruise ship outbreak. Presumably because of this particular species, but even for the ones that don't transmit human-to-human, there's clear reason to have vaccine options. That didn't require a cruise ship outbreak that hit the news.

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Wompatuckrule May 8, 2026 +91

There are other variants of hantavirus which, while not human-to-human, are endemic in the US and have about a 35% fatality rate. It's pretty easy to cross that vector as you can disturb a rodent's nest just cleaning up a garage or pulling firewood from the pile.

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tgames56 May 9, 2026 +34

There have been 890 cases in the US since 1993 or 27 a year. While scary because of the mortality rate the infection rate is basically non existent. There is a reason most of us have never heard of it until now.

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Wompatuckrule May 9, 2026 +21

I had relatives in AZ and everyone where they lived were more than aware of both hantavirus and valley fever.

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SunsetHippo May 9, 2026 +3

could also be for a different market. I had heard (Though did not do research on) that argentina has a good number of Hantavirus cases.

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af_echad May 9, 2026 +1

Asia too has many more. I believe there are ~100k cases per year globally.

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SunsetHippo May 9, 2026 +1

Either way, they can either sell their produce there or license it out, or however it works

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Wompatuckrule May 8, 2026 +45

Not the human-to-human strain, but the hantavirus is endemic in the US, particularly in the southwest. Mice and small rodents get in everything and it's disturbing the nests that usually gets viral particles in the air to infect people. Something as simple as taking wood from a woodpile or cleaning up in an attic, basement or garage are common ways for people to get it. Given that prevalence and how it has about a 35% fatality rate developing a vaccine for this was not dependent on this cruise ship incident.

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noir_lord May 8, 2026 +82

They are taking the massive leap in share price seriously. A hantavirus vaccine would be valuable anyway, Hanta family viruses (Hantaviridae) are *everywhere* (note: not this ~~strain~~ species...)

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nicuramar May 8, 2026 +20

It’s a species, not a strain. The Andes virus.

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noir_lord May 8, 2026 +11

Valid point, updated.

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LuckyNumber04 May 8, 2026 +5

I'd buy shares. Weren't they the first to get a covid vaccine to the pubic?

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noir_lord May 8, 2026 +18

Pfizer/BioNTech was first I think. There was only a week or two between them though.

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Wiseduck5 May 9, 2026 +2

Astrazeneca was first by quite a bit.

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EdgarJomfru May 8, 2026 +15

I doubt there is any known fatal disease that isn't having a vaccine researched

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gormhornbori May 9, 2026 +11

First, Moderna isn't "big pharma", they are a 2018 startup, and a bit of a disruptor. That said the covid vaccine should have landed them a warchest for future vaccines. Second, this is a disease that's been on the watchlist of WHO. Because of the very high mortality and that human to human spread has "recently" been proven. This virus is a known danger among hikers in the Andes mountains. There is both a native population and well off tourists who would benefit. (Higher ability to pay or roll out vaccination programs than say most African diseases.) Also "early-stage" might just mean that they have identified that their RNA tech might work for this virus, but haven't spent any money on things like trials etc.

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lonewolf210 May 8, 2026 -4

Big pharma sees a way to make short term gains

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Wompatuckrule May 8, 2026 +9

Nah, hantavirus is a significant problem in the US, particularly in the southwest. I would imagine that they're focusing more on those strains than the *Andes* strain which is the human-to-human one found in Argentina (and is somewhat difficult for it to spread between people).

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lonewolf210 May 8, 2026 +3

O no it's a legit thing they are working on and a problem in the US. I was responding to the person posting saying they are taking this cruise ship thing seriously. They are working on the vaccine because it's real problem but this press release is entirely because they saw an easy pr win and short term way to boost stock price. That was the purpose of the press release but they have been working on the vaccine for a long time

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Notoriouslydishonest May 8, 2026 +17

By curing a deadly virus. Moderna creates a life-saving vaccine, we give them a giant pile of money, everybody wins.

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LuckyNumber04 May 8, 2026 -6

Yea, they're telling people not to panic, but, contact tracing for this situation is a moot point. Some people got off the ship before they knew what was going on. They got on airplanes in close proximity to others, went back to their lives, etc. and the incubation period for hantavirus is a long time (several weeks). This strain known as the Andes Virus has been around, and has been deadly, for a long time, but viruses can mutate. This strain might have mutated and become even more transmissible, who knows. To me, it doesn't look good.

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Inevitable-Winter-64 May 9, 2026 +3

Viruses do mutate rapidly, but there are still limits to the process. Hantavirus would need several substantial mutations to be viable as a pandemic-level threat. It lacks the transmissibility (especially during incubation) and array of symptoms that make Covid so virulent. Those mutations just aren't feasible at this point. Hantavirus is slow to replicate in comparison to Covid, and the population from which mutations can be produced is *much* smaller. It's not *impossible*, but it'd be like digging in your backyard and finding a treasure chest.

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LuckyNumber04 May 9, 2026 +1

Thank you for the information. This made me feel a lot better. Hantavirus scares the s\*\*t out of me.

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Complete-Sort1617 May 8, 2026

Yeah, this one appears to be a more highly transmittable human-human strain which, should it mutate, would be way more f****** scary than the old world rodent-rodent h***** virus strain that’s predominantly in Africa. I’m also taking it very seriously.

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MedicineGirl125 May 8, 2026 +12

>h***** virus strain Are you sure that one is from Africa and not Asia?

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Complete-Sort1617 May 8, 2026 +6

Shit my predictive text is betraying me

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Wompatuckrule May 8, 2026 +4

>this one appears to be a more highly transmittable human-human strain Where are you getting that from? I haven't seen anything that indicates that it's outside of what they know of existing strains where spreading between humans requires close contact for extended times and/or in enclosed smaller spaces. Two of the people who died were a couple so even if only one caught it from an animal source it had high odds of spreading to the other person.

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Hannhfknfalcon May 9, 2026 +51

Hantavirus was a legitimate everyday threat where I grew up. Don’t get me wrong, I’m very pro-science, and pro-vaccine, and certainly don’t want people to die from this, but they sure didn’t give a shit about people on reservations…

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Tokey_Tokey May 9, 2026 +13

Theyre not doing it for poor people.

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-TheExtraMile- May 8, 2026 +74

Alright, let´s say this one spreads. This virus is a lethal m***********. So let all the MAGAs and the like around the globe refuse the vaccine for whatever weird reason they choose. This won´t be like covid, let's be clear about that. And I do hope that this will not spread, but if it does then people will be dropping like flies. Here is the thing. We don´t really know at what point it starts to spread, the current consensus (spreads only after people show symptoms) is not at all sure. We might be facing turbo killer covid and this one will be serious. And I really, really do hope that this won´t happen but we should all be prepared.

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instasquid May 8, 2026 +30

Covid was really bad in that it killed a lot of people, but not REALLY REALLY BAD because kids were largely unaffected and it was mostly elderly and comorbid people dying. If you get a disease that's deadlier and have kids dying on the news you'll have less people handwaving the risk away easily.

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jenglasser May 9, 2026 +7

I no longer have this much faith in humanity.

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Sallad3 May 8, 2026 +57

AFAIK it's not very good at spreading. There was 147 people aboard and only 13 infected. Multiple people sharing the room with people infected who was not affected at all. It's a scary disease to be sure but very unlikely to cause a major outbreak. https://www.who.int/emergencies/disease-outbreak-news/item/2026-DON599

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a_duck_in_past_life May 9, 2026 +28

We don't know how good it is at spreading until the incubation period is up for the people originally exposed. There could be 30 more that have it but we just don't know yet. Hopefully you're right. But even if it's just the 13 that got infected, that's still 8% of the 147.

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Complexology May 9, 2026 +13

Still10ish days until the incubation period is up for everyone exposed to the first patient.

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iforgotmyuserr May 9, 2026 +6

He died on April 11th, so he could have been contagious until then. The full incubation period for the first case would be 8 weeks after that, which isn’t until June 6th.

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Complexology May 9, 2026 +5

8 weeks is generous. Im pretty sure the longest incubation for this actual strain was 45days but in the last outbreak it was 40 days max.

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iforgotmyuserr May 9, 2026 +6

All of the official sources I’ve read have said up to 8 weeks. That’s probably rare but I’d still rather be safe than sorry when we’re dealing with another potential pandemic.

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DryHovercraft9662 May 8, 2026 +14

the transmission rates are way too low for it to be anything pandemic-like

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moschles May 10, 2026 +2

Nobody is gambling on this. Spanish authorities have already quarantined the entire boat and its crew. European governments are sending "special" planes to pick up their nationals.

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windraver May 8, 2026 +4

Until it evolves an airborne transmission attribute.

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DryHovercraft9662 May 9, 2026 +8

It could have evolved that anytime over the past however-many decades. The chances of it happening now, when it didn't for so long, are extremely low.

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windraver May 9, 2026 +10

Viral evolutions I think occur quite quickly. It's not normally decades like animals. It's why the coronavirus has so many strains and same with the flu. That said, I was also referring to the plague inc game where once you earn enough points, you can evolve a transmission trait. Or sometimes they randomly serve evolve. Game Reference: https://www.ndemiccreations.com/en/22-plague-inc Viral evolution speed reference https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4984659/

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DryHovercraft9662 May 9, 2026 +3

Oh my bad, I missed the reference. I always went for all 5 airborne + waterborne transmission as my first picks whenever I played, so I never got that mutation.

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windraver May 9, 2026 +2

Yea, once I got fatal mutations before I could get transmission up which got me caught before I could infect enough people and they immediately started researching the cure so I didn't make it before I got shutdown. Transmission mutations seem rare.

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a_duck_in_past_life May 9, 2026 +12

That's not how evolution works.

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iforgotmyuserr May 9, 2026 +2

So far it has only spread in pockets through small rural towns. If it starts spreading through cities, it’ll have a lot more opportunities to mutate

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Only--East May 9, 2026 +2

Sure, but not all viruses are easy to mutate, and as it is it is not easy to spread and hitting the j****** for that sustained spread is a very, very difficult j****** to hit especially considering the contagious window and how quick it kills after that. It has several mutations it would need to make to be able to sustain a large outbreak.

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Grabbityy May 9, 2026 +2

True, if it’s unlucky it’ll randomly evolve to organ failure and it could kill transmission ability or WHO will double effort.

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uniquefishthrowaway May 10, 2026 +1

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melkipersr May 8, 2026 +7

Blocked by the paywall — mRNA?

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Weshtonio May 10, 2026 +3

It is, yes.

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zorionek0 May 9, 2026 +6

MrNA vaccines are a big leap forward in terms of quickly creating new vaccines.

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Pleasant_Pen8744 May 12, 2026 +1

I've only ever seen that written mRNA

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scubawankenobi May 10, 2026 +5

Meanwhile, MAGA: 1. Pre-refuse to ever take the vaccine 2. Inviting their friends w/kids over to "Hantavirus Parties" in order to acquire immunity the \*natural\* way

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Skele_again May 8, 2026 +6

Quick pop the blue bubble! Slow down cure research!!!

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space_prostitute May 9, 2026 +5

RFK Jr. will ban it, guaranteed.

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knittingcatmafia May 9, 2026 +5

Whether it’s this virus or another one - I would absolutely love to see how long the anti-vaxx crowd holds out if a virus with 35% mortality rate starts making rounds the same way Covid did

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sfogler May 10, 2026 +1

The dumb will refuse. The grifters will flip so fast or do it undercover lol.

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FinancialSpite May 9, 2026 +3

We’re at the point where a new outbreak happens and vaccine stocks jump before most people even process the headline

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Ltsmash99 May 8, 2026 +15

Oh boy. The stupids are going to lose their shit.

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cheeeze50 May 9, 2026 +5

I've seen shit Facebook posts saying the virus has been created recently in a laboratory when it's been known and studied for f****** decades. They're already whining about the next shutdown and everything

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DavidC_M May 10, 2026 +3

Oh here come the “how do they have a vaccine for it??? THEY MADE THE VIRUS!” crowd of Trump voters.

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mihran146 May 8, 2026 +5

Can’t wait until the government to screw over Moderna again

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Xpuffin May 9, 2026 +2

Went from "not worried about the hantavirus" to "let me stock up on TP and upgrade my pc for some serious gaming" in one headline.

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kqlx May 9, 2026 +2

dont let rfk find out about this

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cr0wstuf May 9, 2026 +2

Getting ahead of it before Trump makes it worse. Good job.

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_GD5_ May 10, 2026 +2

We’ve had hantavirus vaccines for over 35 years. Adapting those vaccines to modern technology will be simpler than starting from scratch. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hantavirus_vaccine

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RebelliousInNature May 8, 2026 +4

Why does it feel we’re quite aware of the snowglobe we’re living in now? They just seem to come along shake it up and see where the money falls.

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luisa65-L May 8, 2026 +2

Nothing pumps a pharmaceutical stock quite like a floating petri dish and the vague promise of 'early-stage research'.

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Known_Paramedic_9503 May 9, 2026 +2

They said it will be years before they have one

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RealisticEntity May 9, 2026 +2

Getting ready for the next potential pandemic. Which is definitely not a bad thing. The lessons from covid must not be ignored.

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r2002 May 9, 2026 +2

Hello darkness my old friend...

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slamdanceswithwolves May 8, 2026 +3

I would love if they repurpose the ‘Wanta-Fanta?’ ad campaign with a slight tweak to sell this vaccine

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LuckyNumber04 May 8, 2026 +4

"WANNA-HANTA!! DON'T YOU WANNA?" No. No I definitely don't. Gimme the vaccine please.

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swagonflyyyy May 9, 2026 +1

Yeah...I'll take the vaccine when it comes out but I don't think I'll be signing up for the vaccine trial this time.

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RaverPharmacist May 10, 2026 +2

People in the vaccine trials were not exposed to Covid, if that is your concern. Half were given placebo, half were given the vaccine, and then they were all told just to live however they had been previously living. They then tracked how many of them caught Covid through exposure in their community.

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swagonflyyyy May 10, 2026 +1

No, I'm saying I'm not pushing my luck this time. The vaccine worked for me perfectly fine during the trials when I got both shots instead of placebo but this time I'm going to wait until the hantavirus vaccine officially rolls out instead of signing up for another trial.

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aedisaegypti May 9, 2026 +1

I need this vaccine-family hoards

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TotalBojangles May 9, 2026 +1

Do you have any more sources about this? Lots of people on this post are responding without a ton of info.

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cxmmxc May 9, 2026 +1

Oh boy, 12%? Big deal about the human lives saved, think of the money!

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flybyme03 May 9, 2026 +1

conspiracy theorists celebrate

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ButterscotchLow2827 May 10, 2026 +1

This is the point in time where we find out Trump voters are just as dumb as they were last time. If there was ever any doubt.

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Consistent-Menu-6629 May 11, 2026 +1

It's not lost on me that they only cared enough to bother after it impacted the west.

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Idiot_Savant_13 May 9, 2026

Moderna has every reason to lie, & there is no penalty to them for doing so. Always question what a corporation says.

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ulchachan May 9, 2026 +6

Lie in what way? [Hantavirus has been on the rise](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Effects_of_climate_change_on_hantavirus), likely due to reduced cold weather in the endemic regions so it makes sense a corporation would want to make money out of that

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VeryluckyorNot May 8, 2026 +1

I don't know how many was the Covid shot, but it gonna cost the same or more.

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svh01973 May 9, 2026 +1

Well I guess we know where the outbreak came from now

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camilahors May 9, 2026 +1

Nothing says "timely innovation" like a cruise ship outbreak.

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mikeinanaheim2 May 9, 2026 +1

Just watch; that numpster who eats roadkill, drinks raw milk and wears blue jeans to the gym will do his best to derail a hantavirus vaccine. Witness how he's handled childhood measles vaccines for a hint. Also discouraged MRNA vaccines which have real potential for uses in addition to covid that an activist politician is not qualified to judge.

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paulsteinway May 9, 2026 +1

Time to whip up some antivax propaganda that it will make your balls fall off.

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Moderna announces early-stage hantavirus vaccine research amid deadly cruise ship outbreak, shares jump 12%

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