Keep on walking east until you are happy with your language settings
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counter-proof03645 days ago
+123
Is there a Russian version of the "Horst-Wessel-Lied"?
(Background: The NSDAP walked out of the German Parliament in 1932 singing that song).
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Vovinio20124 days ago
+6
I'm pretty sure some ruzzian nazi larpers already made a translated version.
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adyrip15 days ago
+80
ROFL, good one!
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SomeGalNamedAshley5 days ago
+31
Or southeast if they speak fish.
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_Schrodingers_Gat_3 days ago
+3
maybe tap dance through the mine fields, in circles...
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Eastern_Hornet_64325 days ago
-60
East of Moldova is Ukraine
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quildtide5 days ago
+75
They just need to keep on walking east after that. How difficult is that to understand?
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sg19point35 days ago
-31
nobody will let that garbage in, how difficult is it to understand?
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Eastern_Hornet_64325 days ago
-60
You want Transnistrians to settle in Eastern Ukraine?
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quildtide5 days ago
+47
No, keep going east until they find their beloved Soviet Union.
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Old-Improvement-29615 days ago
-255
So it's ok to ban minority in your country to use their language? Noted
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PuzzleheadedCode92265 days ago
+141
They didnt ban it, they are restricting it in political áreas (maybe read the article?)
Of which Rússia is the ONLY one to blame when they started the war in Ukraine and their aspirations to reunite the former USSR territory and political interference in former soviet countries by using local political parties (the same ones that did the walk out)
Nevermind the fact that this Rússian minority was a result of settler-colonial policy by the USSR under Stalin, settlers that later on would be ones that controlled SSR Moldova for almost 50 years.
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quildtide5 days ago
+36
The Russians really dug the graves of the Transnistrians with that action.
Some Ukrainian politicians had been sympathetic to them in the past (many such politicians are either no longer in power, or have even disappeared across the border with Russia), so the main supply line for Transnistria had been from Russia through Ukraine.
That supply line no longer exists. Russia attempted to take control of Odesa earlier in the war in order to reestablish their supply lines with Transnistria, but this has failed.
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yonce_3335 days ago
+89
It’s okay to ban Russian language in the chamber
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GovernmentBig27495 days ago
+54
If the "minority" does everything to undermine and sabotage your country, sure. Especialy russians.
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Old-Improvement-29615 days ago
-37
1. So every country can claim some minority is undermining and sabotaging the country and they can take away their rights? Nice
2. What did the russian people in Moldova do? I missed the part where they started doing terrorist attacks recently? If russian speaking politicians want closer relationship with Russia, there is nothing wrong there.
3. 'Especially Russians' ah I see, hating a specific group of people is fine as long as YOU don't likr them. Nice
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PuzzleheadedCode92265 days ago
+44
>So every country can claim some minority is undermining and sabotaging the country and they can take away their rights? Nice
Its not "claim", the pro Rússia parties are very much in bed with Putin. And again, bcz for some reason you still clicking that button, ONLY a restricting is being made on political áreas.
>What did the russian people in Moldova do?
You joking? Besides the 50 years of rule during the Soviet Union, deploying illegally soldiers in another nation's sovereign territory or more recently interfering in the presidencial race and political affairs of Moldova to this day.
>If russian speaking politicians want closer relationship with Russia, there is nothing wrong there.
Except there is as they support the Rússian invasion of Ukraine, nevermind that a portion of their nation hás some 2k Rússian soldiers.
>Especially Russians' ah I see, hating a specific group of people is fine as long as YOU don't likr them. Nice
Being clueless of what happened in the last 4 years, I see. Go see what happened after 2022 (especifically after 24th February), and the rhetoric coming out from Moscow.
Accussing Moldova or other listnookor of Russophobia or just blatant dislike to Rússia, as if Rússia doesnt deserve this scorn.
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GovernmentBig27495 days ago
+22
Im kinda biast since i live in Poland and they kinda want to erease us out of existance, along with Ukraine...tavarish
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birgor5 days ago
+17
It is bad when this happens to Russian speakers with no bad intentions, but as long as Russia keeps using Russian speakers in other countries as a way to destroy said countries from the inside, and create artificial reasons to intervene in their politics or by military force is there unfortunately not much else to do.
If Russia cared about Russian speakers in other countries would it be very easy for them to just leave those countries alone. Everything is in the hands of Russia.
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NixarDixar4 days ago
+3
Youre a bot, russians killed people in Moldova, organized a famine, recently russia blocked our trade goods from entering their country, so by your logic, yes, yes they use the same tricks youre accusing moldova of lol, lmao loser
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bluesmaster855 days ago
+26
If by minority of a country you mean overpriced MPs, I am all for oppressing them. Beatches will speak any language if you put enough money in their pocket.
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Old-Improvement-29615 days ago
-15
No by minority I mean average people speaking that language
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bluesmaster855 days ago
+30
Average people in a parliament?
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Imsurethatsbullshit5 days ago
+83
Somehow I never hear you folks crying when minorities in Russia are led to the slaughter as cannonfodder. But only when russians are the minority.
Wonder why that is..
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Old-Improvement-29615 days ago
-108
What 'you folks'?
Also, you talk as if people are forced to go to war. The government offered them crazy money, life is hard over there and they decided to got to war. For a Russian in Moscow, you would need a lot more money, to get them to enlist.
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EntOnPC5 days ago
+61
And why is the life of ethnic minorities in Russia so hard compared to ethnic russians I wonder….
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Old-Improvement-29615 days ago
-65
Because they don't live in big cities? Only Moscow and St Petersburg have really high level of economy
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Shadow6474 days ago
+13
I wonder if perhaps Moscow and St Petersburg "high level of economy" (lol implying russians are capable of doing anything except extracting oil from the ground) is quite significantly based on theft of natural resource extraction revenues from other regions that would have quite decent economies if it was not for this theft
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Old-Improvement-29614 days ago
-8
Wow, you're so full of hate. Russians contributed a lot in literature, space exploration and many other sciences, not only oil extraction. Obviosuly you know nothing about that.
And Moscow is only 3rd region of Russia based on the salaries, and St Petersburg is 12th, the first two places go to oblasts behind Urals.
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NixarDixar4 days ago
+8
Youre the hateful one, youre promoting the victim mentality of imperialists, only hateful envious ppl do that, also it wasnt russians doing all of the ussr achievements, half of them if not more are usually ukranians, belarussians, moldovans and all the many people russians used as they always do
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Old-Improvement-29614 days ago
-1
So when they achieve something it's ussr but when something bad happens, like holodomor or squashing hungarian revolt it's evil Russians? Lol
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freeset214 days ago
+6
For the most part, they stole, stole, and stole everything from other peoples, including culturally.
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NixarDixar4 days ago
+3
Omg apologise more to Putin jfc, theyre life is hard because theytr serfs, because in russia if yourr not an oligarch youre a slave, i swear if youre not a bot
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Old-Improvement-29614 days ago
Serfs? Slaves? Buddy its 21st not 17th century
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NixarDixar4 days ago
+2
Buddy my friends in the east all live like slaves lol, russia sucks fir normal people
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NixarDixar4 days ago
+3
You folks as in warcrime imperialis apologist ta kie scum like yourself
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mgeldarion5 days ago
+39
Oh no, poor Russians, how they'll live now that their native language is no longer encouraged to be spoken in the government of... \[checking notes\] a foreign sovereign country.
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LongShotTheory4 days ago
+11
Do they use Romanian as an official language in Russian duma? I doubt it.
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Koala_eiO5 days ago
+8
It is absolutely ok to ban the use of a language that is not the official language (or part of the official languages) of a country in public institutions.
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Zem_425 days ago
+45
In this particular case - yes!
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Old-Improvement-29615 days ago
-71
It's not on a case by case basis - either countries can ban minority languages or not
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Dongsquad420Loki5 days ago
+42
On what basis do you say a case to case basis is not applicable?
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Old-Improvement-29615 days ago
-46
On the basis that minorities have their rights. If you find excuse to ban them, that's not an exception, it's a precedent. Just like giving independence to Kosovo isn't exception, rules are either applied or not. Now Russia stole 5 oblasts from Ukraine and used Kosovo precedent as excuse.
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Dongsquad420Loki5 days ago
+31
Thats languages in government. There is already lots of precedent from countries not accommodating some languages but accom9dating others. It is done already on a case by case basis
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MasterBot984 days ago
+6
And the majority of citizens don't have a right to understand their government officials? No? Gotta peddle the "russians are oppressed everywhere, so let's conquer the continent" party line at any cost? Ofc you do. Russians are oppressed by morons who think that they are incapable of learning and using other languages and require saving via bombs and rockets wherever they live.
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NixarDixar4 days ago
+2
Id send your ass to a gulag
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LuckyVermin5 days ago
+337
I love the irony that the opposition party is arguing that next steps will be canceling elections and censoring journalists when 2 stories later in my feed shows blacked out pages in a Russian translated comic book due to censorship laws.
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Loose_Skill66415 days ago
+196
the enemies of democracy always attack democracy by using its freedoms against it, that's why you'll see communists and fascists pretending to take part in elections when in reality they just want the ussr/4th reich back
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MootRevolution5 days ago
+85
Yep, it's in the playbooks all the authoritarians use. Same as what Islamist Erdogan said: *'Democracy is a train we take to reach our destination'.* Once they are powerful enough, they will do away with democracy and install their particular flavour of authoritarianism.
That's why the paradox of tolerance is so important.
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girlnamedJane5 days ago
+13
Democracy is too weak and fragile innit. They can subvert it in decades with some cash and time. The pillars of democracy i.e education and information are both very tricky and tough to uphold and maintain especially with capitalism constantly attempting to inject cronyism into the govt to pass favorable economic laws. What democracy really does is to create the perfect fertile ground to plant the seed of, and nurture the roots of, fascism and authoritarianism
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MootRevolution5 days ago
+27
All political systems can and will lead to authoritarianism if people are not vigilant. Because a sizable part of humanity wants (psychologically needs) a clear hierarchical system where they have Overlords above them, but also 'Others' that are beneath them on the ladder. As long as they can feel and act superior to those Others, they will support such a hierarchy. Even when they get abused by their Overlords.
It's hard to get rid of that threat. Education and a harsh penalty for those that seek power to abuse others, are the only things I can think of.
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girlnamedJane5 days ago
+5
If all are the same then why are we touting one over the rest? To me it seems that 'staying vigilant' is a nebulous term that doesnt really have any meaningful actions that can be consistently enforced. A vigilant citizen is also the anti thesis of Capitalism. An educate consumer is a corporations worst nightmare. Are you seriously under the impression that citizens can stay vigilant while capitalism is incentivized to subvert their vigilance
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putin_my_ass5 days ago
+4
Authoritarianism is currently flourishing because people are apathetic.
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celem834 days ago
+2
If we consider tolerance to be a social contract we can then argue that people who do not adhere to contracts are not covered by them and resolve the paradox
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MasterBot984 days ago
+1
There is nothing to resolve, it's just called a paradox while not being one.
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blues55515 days ago
-4
Oh yes, the communists and fascist are the exact same thing and same level of menace today. Very comparable!
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NixarDixar4 days ago
+3
Im Moldovan, i dont want democracy to die here, thats why all my family voted for the non russian stooges, if our current party will cancel elections id be right out there protesting, its usually the russian stooges that fake elections tho around these parts
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golosa_zovut_menya5 days ago
+370
Well, considering that Russia claims that any place where Russian is spoken is land that belongs to Russia, I would say this was a smart move.
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Yuraiya4 days ago
+1
And Moldova already has a breakaway province trying to court Russia in Transnistria.
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confidentlyfish3 days ago
-2
This is blatantly false
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golosa_zovut_menya2 days ago
+3
Русский мир = Russian irredentism
I would encourage you to educate yourself on this matter, *Tovarishch.*
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Substantial_Milk81705 days ago
+129
So the pro-Russian opposition voluntarily removed themselves from the room? Sounds like the new policy is already working flawlessly.
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omnichronos5 days ago
+37
In 2015, I visited Moscow with my Ukrainian/Russian best friend. We were near Red Square around 9:30 PM and hadn't eaten yet. We saw a guy twirling a sign that invited us to his restaurant. We had to follow him through a dark, under-construction courtyard (which seemed sketchy) and then show a security guy one of our passports, which was a surprise. That was when we found out we were at the Moldovan Embassy, which had a very classy restaurant. The food was top-notch, and so was the wine, which Moldova is known for. During our meal, I was surprised to see a large TV playing anti-Russian music videos.
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Notre-Dame-Gremlin5 days ago
+84
I thought the Russian speaking population had already seceded to Transnistria ?
Does this mean this so-collar opposition are simply pro-Russian 5th column?
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adyrip15 days ago
+144
Moldova still has a sizeable pro-Russian population. Stalin killed or exiled a lot of Romanians from that area and replaced them with Russian settlers. And that policy continued under the USSR.
Transnistria was never Romanian, it was a piece of land Stalin glued to Moldova to muddy the waters. He took Southern Bessarabia (Buceag region) and Norther Bucovina and gave them to the Ukrainian SSR, while he glued the Transnistrian region to the Moldova SSR. So Romanian speakers are a minority in Transnistria and always were.
And they also made sure all the power and gas network serving Moldova passed through Transnistria, shows they were always afraid Moldova could break away at some point and they wanted to keep them in. Now Moldova and Romania have built gas and power connectors, so that dependency on Transnistria is slowly going away.
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Reasonable_Gas_24985 days ago
+141
Man Russia really never stopped being that evil, imperial, colonial empire that they painted the west to be
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adyrip15 days ago
+99
Yeah, the standard Russian policy is to accuse other of what you are doing
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bigorangemachine5 days ago
+30
Sounds like MAGA
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flaviu01035 days ago
+15
Yeah.
MAGA is following some Russian playbook.
One of the key features is - accusing other of what you are doing or what you are planing to do.
Other interesting tactics is that weird power projection when you lie, the others know you lie but because they can't do anything about it... you project power - in a bullying kind of way.
Another one, and one of my "favorites" is burrying the truth in a sea of lies. Say something happens that makes you look bad. You instantly flood the media with false stories that cover that aspect from different angles but are more or less absurd. So for the public it becomes a headache so they drop it and switch attention to something else.
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Chilkoot5 days ago
+13
Who do you think invented and bankrolled MAGA?
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Readonkulous4 days ago
+3
As James Baldwin said “what you say about somebody else reveals you”. The art of projection, each accusation is an admission.
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greedy_mf5 days ago
Painted to be? They just called it how it was and arguably somewhat is.
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cister5325 days ago
-15
Not denying that Russia has been an imperialist state, but it's not like the west hasn't been imperialist for just as long...
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Reasonable_Gas_24985 days ago
+9
I think most of the west stopped being imperialistic and colonial at least 50 years ago
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Notre-Dame-Gremlin5 days ago
-5
Officially maybe.
But as one example, I can assure you that France has been pulling the strings of African supposedly independent countries since 1960.
We even have a name for this : “ La Francafrique”.
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Sunny_Nihilism5 days ago
-5
Dude, have you been watching the news like this year? The US have literally started two colonial conflicts. Venezuela with limited success and Iran with disastrous results.
But know that Western colonialism is alive and well
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knittingcatmafia4 days ago
+3
Don’t bother arguing with the trolls, Russia isn’t the only one who has bots in all of these sublistnooks.
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cister5324 days ago
+2
It's so obvious lately, talking bad against the USA's foreign policy makes you drown in downvotes. Sadly I don't know if it's due to bots or just brainwashed 'murikans.
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knittingcatmafia4 days ago
+2
That’s the sad part. With Russia at least it’s obvious who the bots are. With Americans - absolutely no idea. One fifth of Americans are functionally illiterate and over 50% of them read below a sixth grade level, so I genuinely do not trust the average internet user from the US to understand geopolitics or form opinions or observations based on the last century of global history.
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cister5324 days ago
+1
I got told in a youtube comment "you're what's wrong with America these days" when I commented on how weird the "oath of allegiance" is... At this point, I trust the bots more.
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Reasonable_Gas_24985 days ago
+6
I wouldn’t count the US under trump as western if I’m honest
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cister5325 days ago
-8
France has continued their influence over their former colonies, and the USA hasn't stopped their foreign intervention policy from the cold war. I'd say this is imperialism.
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Equivalent-Elk-75135 days ago
+1
then you havent seen modern ruzzian imperialism
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cister5325 days ago
+19
I've been reading Stalin lately, and I'm fascinated by his views on Nationalism and Nationhood. While Lenin saw the liberation of the oppressed nations as fighting imperialism, Stalin advocated in using Russia's imperial frame to "unify the workers". The liberation of these peoples thus worked against his project of a unified republic. This view faded in his last years as his grip on power started to fade, as he tried to appeal to the Leninists.
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Equivalent-Elk-75135 days ago
-2
its like being fascinated of views some deeply perverted serial killer had on the topic of stamps collection
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cister5325 days ago
+15
No, Stalin was the head of state of the Soviet Union, a multinational state. His views on nationalism and its relationship with marxism are important to study nationalism and the history of nation-states. One cannot understand Russification without learning about Stalin.
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Equivalent-Elk-75134 days ago
-1
so you keep going back to the "softer" topics where he's anything but a serial killer. Got ya, nothing to discuss with you. By all means, have fun whatever your own "important" ways.
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cister5324 days ago
+2
What the f*** are you even talking about? I'm a historian, I study history. How the f*** am I supposed to study the russification that occured in the USSR under Stalin without studying about the guy in charge? Are you stupid or what?
You can read stuff from someone without agreeing with them, you know? It's basically 90% of my job. Stalin's views on nationalities are one of the biggest reasons for this push towards homogenization of the USSR and cultural genocide that followed.
If I couldn't read anything written by "killers", I'd be out of a job. I saw you're from Vilnius, why the f*** are you against me studying the reasons your grandparents got oppressed and punished by simply existing? Would you be happier if no one acknowledged the cultural erasure that happened in your country?
My own parents lived in a dictatorship that tried to erase our culture and language, my great uncle got executed for speaking our language in public, that doesn't mean I'm against studying the francoist regime that fucked us up. On the contrary, it makes me want to learn the reasons why this happened, document it, and make it easily accessed for everyone who wants to learn. Educating oneself and others is the first step to stop this kind of violence.
Edit: You might disagree with me, and that's fine. But criticising anyone for learning is stupid, no matter what they're learning about. Reducing anything to "but he's evil" and ignoring anything else is reductionist and doesn't bring anything productive.
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Equivalent-Elk-75133 days ago
+1
yes, im stupid im fine with that, because its what we are born with - the varying degrees of stupidity that is not up to us to change/reduce. Now, if read your first comment - it comes off as hidden dictator-worshiping (seen many of that sort during my days at listnook), after i humorously pointed that out, your second comment did nothing to dispel that notion. Finally, imo russification was happening both before and after him, im not historian, but i i have a stupid notion that megalomania of leaders of russian nation/empire was ingrained and survied throughout much longer history, stalin (being of gerogian descent) was just another cog in the russification steam-train that was rolling through centuries, not just 19xx
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cister5323 days ago
+1
But the homogenization of states, even tho already in place before, only really picked up after WW1, leading to the erasure of national identities and languages that were minorities in these states. For example France with occitan, alsatian, breton, corse, etc. In the former Russian Empire, this process significantly slowed down after the civil war, as Lenin was in favour of promoting these minorities, legalising their language in politics and education and even pushing for more sovereignty for the SSRs in dealing with their own national matters over the USSR's central government. This is why the USSR is one of the few states in history that considered themselves "multinational".
It wasn't until Stalin that this process got started back again and accelerated, seeing as he saw national identities as bourgeois propaganda, he pushed towards this heavy homogenization of the whole USSR. This was also accelerated by the war, as the westernmost republics were the most affected by this. With the weakened western republics, it was much easier to impose a unified "national" policy. Later in his life, his views aligned more with Lenin's, he even coined the term socialist nation as opposed to bourgeois nation to describe those under the USSR, and that the cultural homogenization of the people could never happen until the whole world was socialist. This was, of course, meaningless propaganda directed to those on the party more aligned with Lenin's thought, as Stalin and his successors (though not as heavily) continued this Russification policy.
I reworded and went into detail in what I simplified in my first comment. Stalin was an educated man, not one I agree with and whose actions I publicly denounce and abhor even as a marxist myself, but it's interesting to see how his thoughts shaped what is now the former eastern block. Stalin was the one who coined the term Marxism-Leninism, even though he himself undid many policies that Lenin pushed for (Like a multinational state, LGBT rights, etc.). This is not to say Lenin was without flaws, of course, but that's another discussion. (I might have gone off the rails at the end, lmao. I'm sorry for calling you stupid due to a missunderstanding from both sides.)
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Aethericseraphim5 days ago
+18
Honestly reunification between the two Romanian states can't come fast enough, if only to mindfuck the Putinista dogs.
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defroach845 days ago
+12
Transnistria still can vote in Moldovan elections because Moldova counts them as Moldovan. Not doing so would mean that they don't consider that area as Moldova.
So I'm guessing these are reps from that area.
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[deleted]5 days ago
+50
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Koala_eiO4 days ago
+13
Not just what is going on now. There is simply no reason, even in times of peace, to allow any language that isn't the official language in a parliament. For example, you don't see French deputies speaking Basque or Occitan or Breton in the parliament. You can speak whatever you want outside but public institutions must use the official language(s) of the country.
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No_Classic_33625 days ago
-9
They are pushing their own language: Moldovan. Romanian and Moldovan are like 99% similar but still have differences, mainly with regional accents so no biggie.
I’m happy to see Moldova’s government pushing away the Soviet times, hopefully they will move closer and closer to the EU.
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CryptographerHot31095 days ago
+31
Didn't they change the name of the Moldovan language to Romanian, because "Moldovan language" is just a label created by Russia in order to divide the country and keep its puppets?
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crimilde5 days ago
+22
That’s correct. “Moldovan language” is a Russian invention to segregate the population, and the language name was finally changed back to Romanian in 2023. The person you’re replying to is perpetuating propaganda.
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Nurhaci16165 days ago
+8
> The person you’re replying to is perpetuating propaganda.
Perhaps not intentionally TBF: the change happened relatively recently and wasn't exactly big news in most of the world.
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crimilde4 days ago
+2
For sure, it could be. I’m not claiming intentionality, just the effect.
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flaviu01035 days ago
+10
I don't think that's true.
The official language was Moldovan but it changed to Romanian in 2023.
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adyrip15 days ago
+17
Moldovan is not a distinct language. Unless you claim americans are speaking american and not english
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Basteir5 days ago
+5
The difference between language and dialect is pretty blurry.
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bigorangemachine5 days ago
+56
I advocate for more countries to de-Russify themselves.
Estonia been slowly enforcing Estonian as only language in the country. I think that's a great thing to do even if there are Russian speakers in their country. Estonia gave like 10 years.. 10 years.... to learn Estonian... and the Russians still refused to move or change over.
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Brief_Hospital_17665 days ago
+26
Nobody is forcing them to speak Estonian. It's just that it won't be on signage, school books, or government websites, etc, is that right?
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bigorangemachine5 days ago
+25
It will no longer be taught in schools.... but interacting with the government will be in Estonian as it's the offical language.
With tech now-a-days its not really a hindrance when you can photograph a document and get a translation instantly.
The Russian's opted to collect their own taxes and setup their own schools but they are required to teach Estonian.
But no one is going to force you to speak russian.. you just may not get the good or service you want
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Green-Rule-12925 days ago
+11
"opted to collect their own taxes" doesn't really sound like anything that should be allowed to exist in a well-formed society. What's up with that?
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bigorangemachine5 days ago
+11
It was a compromise (to appear reasonable)
So far it's lead to buildings being built outside of safety code and without permits...
So far this one city doesn't have garbage collection... poor public transit and public drunkenness.
But they get to use Russian in their schools... they just have an Estonian Language class.... but needless to say it shows that everything Russia touches turns to shit.
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Brief_Hospital_17665 days ago
+7
Sounds like a Donbas waiting to happen. If they want to live in Russia, the Narva bridge is right there.
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bigorangemachine5 days ago
+1
Well this is part why there is a NATO deployment there now...
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Suns_Funs5 days ago
+6
You can't really forbid or control people from paying for a random shit to another person. It is propably just a peculiarly called payment for, e.g., private school.
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totallyRebb5 days ago
+13
The Putin puppets walked out ? Already a win.
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ClawsUp_EatTheRich3 days ago
+2
If youre in Moldova speak Moldovan. That simple
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Cantora4 days ago
+2
"Today, they are shutting our mouths. Tomorrow they will decide which journalists can or cannot ask questions," he said. "
Lol what a whiny little b****
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borninthewaitingroom4 days ago
+1
I agree with a lot of comments here, but the principle that language chauvinism is never a good response to language chauvinism is important. It's guaranteed to make things worse for no useful reason. I'm sure most everybody is bilingual after almost a century of Russian rule anyway. Languages are not guilty; what people say in those language is.
Given the seriousness of problems in today's world, this is one battle nobody needs to fight. Much greater things are at stake. Unity, which is what's really important, can only be achieved by respect.
Better to make Russian a conduit for peace, tolerance, and democracy. Use it against Putinism. Language is for communication, so use it for the common benefit. I'm sure in advance that reasons to disagree will be more or less petty or empty symbolism, so give it some thought. This is far from the first time I've learned about this. That fascists are always willing to use democracy against democracy is definitely true. However, that can and does work the opposite way too.
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BogdanD3 days ago
Language is culture and influence, too. Historically Russia did a lot to ethnically cleanse Moldova of Romanians & their culture and replace it with Russians. This is the Moldovan government acknowledging that Russian is a foreign language in Moldova. It’s important!
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Brief_Hospital_17665 days ago
+1
Well done, Moldova. Shame it wasn't outright banned.
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No_Classic_33625 days ago
+5
If it makes you feel better, speaking Russian at least in Chișinău is socially frowned upon. You won’t be able to receive government service for example if you can’t speak Moldovan, and all the paperwork is in Moldovan too.
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adyrip15 days ago
+18
Moldovan isn't a language. Only Russia promotes that bullshit, it's a "language" they invented for propaganda reasons. The official state language of Moldova is Romanian.
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Printer-Pam4 days ago
+3
There is no Moldovan language
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No_Classic_33624 days ago
-4
Not according to my dad in law and his side of the family that live there.
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Printer-Pam4 days ago
+3
Where do you think I live and which do you think is my native language?
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Mada77z4 days ago
+2
There's no such thing as "Moldovan" language, grow up
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Brief_Hospital_17665 days ago
-1
Good. Needs to be rolled out to all the villages, too. If these people want to live in Russia so badly they can. It covers almost one fifth of the planet, so plenty of room to live out their Russian dreams.
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Comfortable-Face45934 days ago
+1
Oh well
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Affectionate_Fall573 days ago
+1
Putin is truly the biggest russophobe in history. He destroyed the freedom of speech for Russians inside of Russia, and with his actions took away language flexibility of Russians outside of Russia.
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defroach845 days ago
+1
Since Transnistria can still vote in Moldovan elections, are these reps from the areas representing them?
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adyrip15 days ago
+12
It's actually pro-Russian politicians in Moldova. Like Igor Dodon and others. Romanian is the official language of Moldova and that should be the language used in Parliament.
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defroach845 days ago
+3
Interesting. Is Russian more prevalent in certain areas of Moldova? I don't recall seeing it much in Chisinau, but I guess in Balti, I saw more Cyrillic.
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adyrip15 days ago
+4
Yes, there are areas with a russophonic population. Imagine a party called the Communist Party still gets a lot of votes in 2026....
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BetterLivingThru4 days ago
+1
Does Gagauzia still vote like the Russian areas, or is it more mixed bag these days amongts the Gagauz?
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squirrelwug4 days ago
-4
This feels so backwards to me; it has long been Russia's strategy to claim Russian speakers are theirs no matter their nationality and this is kind of policies pretty much say that you can't truly be Moldovan (or Ukrainian, Latvian or whatever) if you speak Russian, alienating the exact communities Russia wants to groom.
Embracing Russian-speaking minorities and making it clear that they *are* part of their home countries seems far more reasonable to me, although I know I might lack their point of view since I come from a society where nationality and language are far more decoupled than in most parts of Europe.
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GnarlyGnome20114 days ago
-8
Funny how if this were to happen to literally any other minority ethnic group in a country with a long history of ethnic & linguistic diversity Listnook would immediately call it discriminatory and vehemently condemn it. The double standards are real..
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SovKom985 days ago
-53
Xenophobia against minority speakers is inexcusable. Shameful of Moldova.
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Koala_eiO4 days ago
+18
That's not xenophobia, that's a country ensuring its only official language is used in its parliament.
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Suns_Funs5 days ago
+16
There are fifty times more Russians than Moldovans. Russians are the ones who should be ashamed of how they have treated Moldovans.
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schminch4 days ago
+5
It’s their country and they don’t want Russian influence.
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