This one is par for the course on cruises. I congratulate anyone who makes it off a cruise without a norovirus outbreak. Did you see the Poop Cruise documentary on Netflix?
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weirdoldhobo19781 day ago
+1217
A hotel I used to work for picked up a contract with a cruise company so guests disembarking would stay one night with us before catching their flight home.
After the first noro outbreak among the staff we had to institute new cleaning/disinfection protocols and after the third outbreak they canceled the contract.
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zephyrtr18 hr ago
+5
Ya noro is almost unkillable. It can live for weeks on the surfaces of toys or furniture. It's insane.
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Mantooth771 day ago
+899
Yes but Poop Cruise wasn’t a Norovirus issue. A fire knocked out the electricity and people were forced to shit in bags. F****** horrible obviously but not the same thing.
I’d much rather have Noro than be stuck on a floating shit factory.
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Krewtan1 day ago
+648
I've had noro and I'd rather shit in a bag. With one toilet in a 3 person household I'm going to be shitting in a bag anyway. Least it would be solid.
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whatshamilton1 day ago
+317
I actually didn’t understand the major objection to shitting in a bag. It isn’t how I’d want to live for the rest of my life. But I’d rather do that than have an unflushable overflowing portapotty in my bedroom, which is what they wound up with
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Mantooth771 day ago
+185
I don’t think that was the major objection so much as it was a meme for the overall hell they were experiencing. No electricity and floating without an end in sight. Hot as balls. Food was limited and awful. If it was just a matter of shitting in a bag, it would have been 95% better than what they experienced. The toilets were overflowing onto the floors. Foul.
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The-True-Kehlder1 day ago
+39
The issue is there wasn't the manpower to take that poop anywhere. So it just sat in the trash near your room. And that was only a small part of the experience.
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Appropriate_Unit34741 day ago
+63
I mean I'd be shittng off the side of the damn thing
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Roxalon_Prime1 day ago
+33
Imagine if you fall? As a person who is afraid of heights, and like huge open water spaces (not sure how this phobia is called) I'd rather shit in a bag.
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BillGoats1 day ago
+15
>huge open water spaces (not sure how this phobia is called)
r/thalassophobia?
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sasha_the_impaler1 day ago
+23
I'm pretty sure even the bags of shit they ran out of places to put them and they were causing mudslides
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Fight_those_bastards1 day ago
+85
Yup. I’ve had norovirus at my house, and it was f****** *horrible*. I can’t imagine how bad it would be on a cruise ship effectively locked in your tiny room, but I know it’s got to be far, far worse.
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MehDub111 day ago
+105
The only part that isn’t hell on earth with norovirus is that the major symptoms usually only last a day or two.
Granted, it’s probably because you’ve projectile vomited and shitted the virus out of you for that entire day or two.
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HatesBeingThatGuy1 day ago
+215
F*** norovirus so hard. You are right, it is hell on earth.
I straight up went from being perfectly fine to almost dead in 12 hours from massive fluid loss from Norovirus. Ate a lot of food in the morning. Twelve hours later "wow I'm feeling super anxious like a rock is in my stomach." 30 minutes later, puke outside my fiancee's dad's fence, felt much better. 15 minutes later, have to puke again. Thinking to myself that's weird but I feel better again. 5 minutes later puke again. Realize I'm in f****** trouble as I start sweating through my clothes and running to the bathroom. Feel a horrible rumbling in my bowels, get on the toilet. Projectile diahrea. Once that happened it was non stop vomiting. All the solids had left my stomach so I was puking into the bath tub while liquid pain came out of my ass. Eventually the diahrea calmed down.
At some point I stopped for a few minutes and my now fiancee's family had me lay down. I got like 4 ounces of water in me and the process started again as I sprint to the bathroom. This kept going for hours. And eventually I was incoherent, holding the toilet for hours as I'm praying for death. I'm told I passed out holding the toilet as next thing I know my fiancee's Vietnamese dad, who is the most relaxed guy ever, has me in his car speeding to the hospital while blowing red lights because he couldn't wake me up. When I woke up I immediately started puking again which thankfully there was a trash can conviently in my lap.
When we got there I literally could not stand or move, all my muscles were pretty much locked up. My heart rate was through the roof (180) and my blood pressure was crazy low. They were trying to ask me questions, and I couldn't answer them between the delirium and vomiting. Eventually they told my fiancee that they were going to just knock me out because the anti-nausea meds weren't working and they needed to stop the fluid loss.
I woke up like 16 hours later wondering if I had just dreamed it all, but the IV and horrid taste in my mouth from vomit were my reminders. Even though I was through it, I couldn't eat properly for months. Got gastroparesis and a hiatal hernia from how bad I was vomiting, which gives me problems now with reflux years later. Norovirus is f****** hell.
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placebo_pope1 day ago
+121
Thank you for describing in such vivid detail. I feel like I was right there with you.
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ZolaMonster1 day ago
+63
It’s truly hell on earth. You start to see the flashes of the Oregon trail “you have died of dysentery” being a legitimate concern at this point.
I once I had food poisoning for 5 days. It was so horrible I had to go to urgent care on day 3 for an IV of fluid because I was so dehydrated. Usually you have to wait a decent time at urgent care to be seen, the triage nurse said I looked like I was knocking on deaths door and they took me back immediately. 0/10 would recommend.
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Yibblets1 day ago
+16
When I had it at home, I lived in my bathroom for two days. A friend bought and delivered to me a 24 pack of bottled water. I kept these in the bathroom with me; it was the sickest that I've ever been.
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conflictedideology1 day ago
+12
I always keep a couple of bottles of pedialyte and a few pedialyte ice pops in the freezer *just in case*.
I was sick as hell once and all I had was water. The electrolyte imbalance caused massive cramping every time I vomited. Vomiting with a full-torso charlie horse is not a good time.
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BigZach11 day ago
+6
Yeah whenever I get food poisoning I get a couple 12 packs of Gatorade delivered
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desertrat751 day ago
+9
Wow. That sounds horrible. Honestly, I've never heard of it outside cruises.
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Feisty-Poet47671 day ago
+14
I had it last year. It was brutal but fortunately only 24 hours
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Limp-Talk-6031 day ago
+6
To be fair bro, that is not a normal or even close to normal reaction to noro at all lmao.
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HatesBeingThatGuy1 day ago
+18
Yeah, doctors said it was extreme. Still was my wretched experience with it. First time being sick in like 7 years and that was what I got. Wouldn't wish a mild version of it on my worst enemy.
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ragun21 day ago
+34
Day 2 of it I was pretty convinced I was going to the ER or something the next day because I couldn't even keep a tiny sip of water down and 3 days of no water is no bueno for the kidneys or maybe try an urgent care for some saline or something.
That night I thought about all the millions of people who have died from some stomach sickness and I was sure a lot of them were better people than I. But I had a good very good hospital with modern medicine a short drive away if I needed it.
I had never caught something before Noro that had me actually thinking about my own mortality.
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Dolla_Dolla_Bill-yal1 day ago
+18
I've had it a handful of times in my life, but there are two occasions that stand out as "thinking about own mortality" passing out next to the toilet in between barf sessions. The only other time I've felt that bad in my life was about 3 minutes before my first baby was born.
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pivovy1 day ago
+29
Yeah, I've had it too once, it was awful but I think I still got off easy compared to some of the other descriptions I've read. Shit, vomit, fever (edit: for 3 days) and then I just got better all of a sudden, literally, I started feeling better and within like 30 minutes I was totally normal.
If I had to chose between the poop cruise and the noro cruise, I'd probably pick the poop one though. Although it's not an easy choice. With a norovirus cruise there's a chance you get spared, and with the poop cruise, everyone is trapped in it.
Edit (for confusion): I've had if for 3 days or so, it's just when I got better, I went from fucked to normal very fast (like within 30 min).
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fatandfly1 day ago
+26
You got extremely lucky only having to deal with it for 30 minutes. I was down for 3 days with the worst of it for about a day and a half. Shitting and throwing up nonstop. It was so bad that I got tired of getting up to go to the bathroom so I laid down in the hall right outside the bathroom. I dragged my tv out there, got a pillow and blanket. And there I laid for a whole day, crawling to bathroom every 30 or so minutes. Worst day of my life
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pivovy1 day ago
+20
Oh no, I've had it for 3 days or so too. I just got better very fast after I started feeling better, like one moment I was sick AF, and then back to normal.
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Shedfloorgarbage1 day ago
+8
I got it last Sunday I think, had to change toilet seats in a Charlestown rental house before driving my boss and his wife up to Boston Logan,
I didnt leave my house for a couple days and wham! I suddenly felt great.
I told the guy he is cursed.
They go to Guatemala for a week?
We get the biggest blizzard on record.
He goes to France?
Damn chapel burns down.
Its the busiest time for my masonry callander. This guy is one of the horsemen.
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che-che-chester1 day ago
+18
Shitting in a bag is unpleasant and inconvenient. Last time I had noro, I was wondering at what point I needed to go to the emergency room.
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supatreadz1 day ago
+11
I had noro for the first time a few months ago and that was for sure one of the top 5 worst nights of my life. I did go to the ER just to get an IV never been that dehydrated in my life
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woodbunny751 day ago
+5
Came to say this. Noro gives again and again and again. Poop wins lol
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Shawn_NYC1 day ago
+49
The good news is due to germ theory - if you're in the latter you'll likely also experience the former!
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lew_rong1 day ago
+28
Set up some electric fans to clear the miasma out of the ship and you'll be fine. Failing that, swim in it.
--RFK Jr, probably
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gnatgirl1 day ago
+17
You're giving him too much credit. I doubt RFK Jr would know how to use use "miasma" in a sentence.
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lew_rong1 day ago
+8
He may not, but he definitely prefers miasma theory to germ theory lol
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drproc901 day ago
+29
The big moral of the poop cruise story was that it turned into a big disaster because people DIDNT poop in the bags.
They just kept shitting in the toilets till they overflowed
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Previous-Height42371 day ago
+7
As someone who had norovirus once. Were these 30 gallon garbage bags? Because small bags aren't enough....
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drproc901 day ago
+7
Their was no noro on poop cruise
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absurdlifex1 day ago
+13
I can tell you've never had noro before
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CaptBreeze1 day ago
+79
I've never been a fan of cruises. But It's so funny...right, when I think "hmmm..I..might wanna take a cruise somewhere" something pops up in the news that reminds me "that's why I don't go on any cruises."
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Astan921 day ago
+16
Just think about how many cruises happen in totality, And then look at the number of actual incidents like this.
Have you completely sworn off flying ever after the couple of incidents last year?
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Own-Ambassador-35371 day ago
+11
Same. I thank god my finances are 💩
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Captain-Hornblower1 day ago
+14
Yeah, I live in Central Florida, and I have been on many of cruise ships. I can be par for the course, but the only time I got violently ill was on an MSC cruise. It wasn't diagnosed, but I am sure it was norovirus. There were about 25 of us and we all got super sick for about 3 days after the cruise. There were reports about this line and the health regulations that it had failed but decided to go on it anyway because the report also said it was squared away. There are some nasty people on cruises, but you would think that the cruise line itself would be held to a higher, sanitary standard.
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FrogsMakePoorSoup1 day ago
+36
I think reading the synopsis will be enough for me.
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techleopard1 day ago
+40
I don't understand how these things even stay in business.
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azsnaz1 day ago
+47
Relatively c**** vacation as far as I'm aware
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owennerd1231 day ago
+41
Because the vast vast majority of cruises go well, they're fun c**** vacations with relatively high quality food for the price paid...
You only hear about the .001% of them that go bad, you don't read news articles about every cruise that goes fine...
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robodrew1 day ago
+20
I went on my 10th cruise this past March and have never had norovirus. Not all cruises are poop cruises.
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weirdoldhobo19781 day ago
+212
Noro outbreaks happen all the time on cruise ships, they're just trying to ride the buzz of the hanta outbreak to get more clicks.
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SecureDonkey1 day ago
+18
Or someone at Wall Street are shorting the cruise stock.
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Hefty_Musician24021 day ago
+4
Ya I was gonna say, they dock in my area mid-noro-outbreak with no regard for locals. This is normal cruise ship behavior
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Dry_Instruction82541 day ago
+262
I posted on one of the hantavirus threads that the old joke is that cruise ships are a petri dish for viruses/bacteria and got shouted down that they were no different than hotels... LOL, go on one of these cruises if you want, but know the risks.
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CosmicJackrabbit1 day ago
+108
High Density, Constant Contact: In a hotel, you might never see your neighbor. On a ship, you are sharing dining rooms, theaters, elevators, and pool decks with the same 3,000 people for seven days straight.
Those that say it's the same are not smart.
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techleopard1 day ago
+97
In THEORY, they should actually be safer due to the closed environment.
In REALITY, cruises should not be boarding people without physician testing the day of boarding. As in, they have people doing nose swabs right at the check in.
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palcatraz1 day ago
+159
Cruises aren't a close environment though. The vast majority of cruises dock at various harbors, with passengers leaving and returning, continuously bringing potential new diseases onto the ship.
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SkunkMonkey1 day ago
+60
Most cruises spend far more time at sea than in port. That means between each port, they get packed up into a floating mall/hotel/amusement park for several days to incubate that shit.
People really underestimate just how boxed up cruise passengers can get.
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BriarsandBrambles1 day ago
+11
8-10 hours per port is more than enough time to catch diseases.
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BigDsLittleD1 day ago
+57
Nose swabs?
This is Norovirus.
You get it from shit. More specifically from nasty people who don't wash their hands after taking a shit.
Nose swab aint gonna help, ask them if they know how to use a bar of soap might.
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ings0c1 day ago
+44
> More specifically from nasty people who don't wash their hands after taking a shit.
This a little oversimplified. Norovirus is extremely hard to kill and hospitals have a hard time containing outbreaks even with very strict sanitation controls.
It also spreads from aerosolised droplets of vomit which can contaminate surfaces or be inhaled/ingested.
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techleopard1 day ago
+15
There's a lot more going around than norovirus.
But yes, better sanitation design would also help
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Really_McNamington1 day ago
+13
Plus their clientele tends to be old, so less resilient when things *are* doing the rounds
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ItsTricky941 day ago
+6
there a lot of outside areas on a cruise ship.
Not to mention everyone dines together
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nvzpxl1 day ago
+57
I have never been able to see the appeal of a cruise ship.
You’re lock-step with thousands of other guests in small spaces, having to compete for amenities, at constant risk of communicable illness, on a diet that is 80% overpriced mediocre food, all the while moving at a crawl from one destination to the next.
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eorlingas_riders1 day ago
+57
Eh, I did a virgin cruise in the Mediterranean with my with Wife for one of our anniversaries right after Covid.
It was like $1600 bucks (due to some deal they had) for both of us, and we went to 5 counties (Barcelona, Ibiza, Cannes, Italy, and I don’t remember the last place).
We bargain hunted for flights and we got two round trip from LAX for the tan $1000.
So around $2500 total to fly, get on a boat, see a bunch of countries was worth it for us.
But virgin is adults only (18+) and we much more enjoyed that than any other cruise line, things were much cleaner/neater albeit a few more drunks lol.
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jedberg1 day ago
+16
I don't have to worry about anything. I get up, I eat if I want, I swim if I want, I work out if I want, I drop the kids at the kids club if I want. I can just sit on the deck and read. And they entertain me every night (and during the day too with crafts, scavenger hunts, stand up comics).
The virus thing isn't so bad if you are careful about washing your hands before you eat and not touching anything and then your face (which I do all the time anyway).
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Ninyu1 day ago
+13
It's not THAT bad. I try to stay away from the buffet though.
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ilike2makemoney1 day ago
+2818
Poverty saves me once again.
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Fallacy_Spotted1 day ago
+341
Sick while on vacation is a very privledged problem to have.
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orthosaurusrex1 day ago
+163
Sick while indentured on a cruise ship with your passport held hostage, however…
Remember crew are affected too.
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ImaginaryCheetah1 day ago
+6
decades back, i found a loop-hole in the points system for my chase business visa that let me rack up enough points in a couple months for a pair of round trip tickets to alaska.
took myself and my girlfriend at the time up for a 10 day trip, we rented a beater yaris from a dodgy car rental joint and stayed in hostels or shared cabins at campgrounds, driving around to see the sights.
i managed to catch giardia and was riding the rainbow for half the trip...
i promise regular folks can get the joy of being sick as a dog on vacation :(
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CaicedoBrickWall1 day ago
+90
To be fair cruise lines have a very specific target audience
The gap between too poor and having enough money to realize there are infinitely better ways to vacation is a very tight window
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SomethingMor1 day ago
+13
People like to bag on cruises, but in my experience they are a great value for a family. Typically the food is above average and included in your fare, and many ships have included child care services. The entertainment is also pretty decent, and you get to see many different coastal towns.
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Eeyanz1 day ago
+1084
So many people do NOT wash their hands. Seen it time and time again onboard people walking past the washbasins into the eatery. Seen guys use urinal and simply walk out and head into eatery.
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F3z345W6AY4FGowrGcHt1 day ago
+708
I've seen countless people leave stalls in a washroom and just leave without washing their hands. If anyone reading this does the same behavior... you're disgusting and people notice.
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Warbr0s93951 day ago
+139
I’m so close to calling these people out but there’s to many crazy people out there and I’m afraid they have a higher chance of not washing their hands.
I called someone out for not returning their shopping cart once and I thought they were gonna pull a gun on me tbh
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Frodojj1 day ago
+62
I call them out every time I notice. F*** that. I get pink eye very easily due to a defect in my left eye, so handwashing is especially important to me.
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allnaturalflavor1 day ago
+15
how do they usually respond?
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Frodojj1 day ago
+17
Either they rush away or they go back and wash their hands.
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Natdaprat1 day ago
+20
There's an awkward moment when they timidly say sorry, shuffle back to the sink and begin gingerly washing their hands while I cross my arms and tap my foot. I remind them to scrub between their fingers, and when they are done, kiss them on the forehead.
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SalvationSycamore1 day ago
+44
I will never in a million years understand that behavior. Sick fucks. I often go to the restroom at work *just* to wash my hands. Obviously before every meal, but sometimes just if I touched something grimy. Wash your f****** hands you animals.
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Triquetrums1 day ago
+20
When i go to the toilet to adjust clothing, or remove an undershirt, I wash my hands after, because I don't want people to think I'm one of those people (also because the handle is probably filthy.)
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CapnJJaneway1 day ago
+105
Years ago I worked at a fast food restaurant for about six months. I refilled the soap dispenser in the women’s washroom every two weeks or so. I never once had to refill the one in the men’s room, though, because it was always full.
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cultyvibes1 day ago
+56
I can only speak for men’s restrooms, but guys tend to either not wash their hands at all or run their hands under water for .02 seconds and call it good
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SalvationSycamore1 day ago
+40
Those aren't men. They are filthy beasts. Creatures of rot and contagion.
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Mercarcher1 day ago
+35
Royal Caribbean literally has a person at the entrance who makes you wash your hands when you go into the buffet. I wonder how many wouldn't without them.
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AnotherNotion1 day ago
+28
I was disturbed with what I recently saw in airports in both North America and Europe. I'd say maybe a third of people rinsed, with two thirds using soap.
It seemed to be universal across all natioalities and ethnicities. People that appeared to in their mid-forties or higher were way more unlikely to even feign a wash. Could be bias though.
My theory is that a lot of people became total f****** slobs during Covid. When I think back to the before times, it was never this bad. It was so extreme that it made an impression every time I was in an airport bathroom.
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2918371201 day ago
+18
People basically did all their handwashing during COVID, survived, and thought "that was enough for the rest of my life"
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ComprehensiveProfit51 day ago
+7
It was worse before covid, not better lmao
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GrallochThis1 day ago
+13
The only cruise I went on, they had the tallest, hottest crew members always out in the public areas with a spray bottle of cleaner and paper towels, all day every day. So we knew they cared. /s
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Plastic_Moose45351 day ago
+16
Wild how quickly people forgot the lessons from the pandemic.
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imahugemoron1 day ago
+24
Not only forgot but it made them even worse than they were because after Covid and all the propaganda and “infringing my freedoms” nonsense, it made people actively flout these common sense safety measures as a declaration of being “unafraid”
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e_x_i_t1 day ago
+6
It's sad, but not at all surprising considering how entitled the average person became during the pandemic.
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The_Colour_Between1 day ago
+18
It isn't an airborne virus. It's spread by fecal matter or vomit.
I've caught it at work many times, but once I had symptoms, I never spread it, because that's just disgusting 🫣.
I also learned to never ever touch the bottom of my shoes. Kick them off at the door. People with Noro just walking and squirting their trousers.
So many bite-hiders out there. They know they are sick, but refuse to isolate.
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fxkatt1 day ago
+1537
>*Among the changes he noticed were passengers becoming more cautious about hygiene, including washing their hands more frequently. Passengers were also no longer allowed to serve themselves at the buffet, he said.*
Buffets always concern me--even back on shore. Which is not to say I don't like them.
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winterbird1 day ago
+516
Buffets are the riskiest behavior that I engage in. But never cruises. I don't live with quite such abandon.
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Orange-Toed-Lemur1 day ago
+63
Lol i never thought about it this way, but same here
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diolch_yn_fawr1 day ago
+43
Guarantee that the riskiest behavior that you engage with is going near roads.
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HendrixHazeWays1 day ago
+53
Ponderosa kicked ass
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TheLastBaboon1 day ago
+26
Buffets are like a trust everyone you see and everyone before. If you trust that you’re a brave person
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Razzail1 day ago
+14
We managed to get through a Carnival Cruise in March 2020 without anyone getting sick some how. They didn't allow any self service, you constantly saw workers wiping buttons, hand rails and other frequently touched areas. Right after we got back to shore is when shit really started shutting down and we questioned our own sanity for going.
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CapBenjaminBridgeman1 day ago
+38
I don't do buffets I've seen the subhuman troglodytes that frequent those establishments
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goddessofthewinds1 day ago
+18
Same here. I loved buffets when I was younger but when I started seeing more disgusting people and kids touching food with their dirty hands, I stopped. I still go to some "buffets" that are pretty much "pick a rack of meat or veggies in the fridge when you are out" (i.e. korean bbq buffet) instead of cooked food being right in the open.
I don't trust half of humans.
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Krojack761 day ago
+6
And as always, The Simpsons....
[https://youtu.be/Dnh8AkgR3qk](https://youtu.be/Dnh8AkgR3qk)
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Fallacy_Spotted1 day ago
+7
Some cruiselines are switching to a food station model where you order the food at smaller theme based locations rather than a central dining hall or buffets. This is what they had on Virgin Voyages and it was great. Fast, varied, and fresh.
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DebentureThyme1 day ago
+3
I have magical memories from going to Disney as a child and my family going to Ponderosa Buffet, the first time I learned what the word meant. I was so excited by this concept that they were forced to take me at least for breakfast every day that week, if not also dinner.
As an adult, I loathe buffets now for how unhygienic the concept is to me.
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zeitgeist987641 day ago
+1289
Cruises are a cesspool of bacteria and viruses lol not great in a closed space at sea…
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rexleonis1 day ago
+9
That’s a bit of a lazy take. Cruises are closed environments, yes, but “cesspool” is wildly overstated.
CDC lists 18 GI outbreaks on cruise ships in 2024 and 23 in 2025 in its Vessel Sanitation Program data. That sounds scary until you remember that 34.6 million people cruised globally in 2024 and 37.3 million in 2025. In other words, tens of millions of passengers sail each year, and the number of reported major outbreaks is tiny by comparison.
Norovirus is not a “cruise ship virus.” CDC says cruise ship outbreaks account for only about 1% of reported norovirus outbreaks. The more common settings are healthcare facilities, restaurants/catered events, schools, childcare centers, colleges, and universities.
The analogy is this: calling cruises a cesspool because a few ships get norovirus is like calling schools plague factories because kids spread stomach bugs and flu every winter. Schools, daycares, nursing homes, restaurants, offices, hotels, conferences, and airplanes all put people in shared indoor spaces. Cruises just get headlines because the cases are counted, reported, and tied to one named ship.
Also, cruise ships are unusually visible because they are required to report GI illness to the CDC, and CDC posts outbreaks when a voyage hits the reporting threshold, generally 3% or more of passengers or crew reporting symptoms. That level of tracking does not happen every time a school, hotel, wedding, restaurant, or office has a stomach bug going around.
So yes, wash your hands and don’t be stupid. But “cruises are a cesspool” is more meme than math.
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honk_incident1 day ago
+165
Also not greater for the cruise workers. I'm not losing any sleep over the cruise passenger being infected with stuff.
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amateur_mistake1 day ago
+101
Especially for the South East Asian workers that are basically slaves on so many of those ships.
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GrallochThis1 day ago
+180
“Thank gods it’s only norovirus!”
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IlliasTallin1 day ago
+49
I got the norovirus about two years back. Got home from work, started vomiting and had diarrhea, it felt awful.
Went to the hospital, got put on some anti-nausea and anti-diarreal pills and felt perfectly fine for the rest of the experience.
Got a week off of work with zero symptoms, 10/10 would do it again.
Without those pills however.... no thank you.
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henry83621 day ago
+27
I also got it two years ago but fainted 6 times and had to spend 2 nights in hospital so i would probably reconsider that 10/10 if I was you
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Insanity_Crab1 day ago
+7
The force of my vomiting made me poo and the smell of the poo made me vomit. This was my life for 2 days until I got some medicine.
But yeah got a week off, so the remaining few days were fairly good!
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the-crow-guy1 day ago
+276
Alcohol/hand sanitizer and most clean wipes do not kill norovirus. If you've had it within the past 2 weeks you are still contagious. If you use the restroom and touch anything before you wash your hands, you very well can be spreading the virus. The only way you can prevent the spread and for others to prevent themselves from getting sick is to wash your hands for a minimum of 20 seconds with hot water and soap. There are special disinfecting wipes you need to get that are hospital grade that can kill the virus on surfaces.
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hiddenuser123451 day ago
+173
Aha, so *that’s* the 0.1% that regular hand sanitizer can’t kill.
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ThatWasIntentional1 day ago
+77
Yep. And it's a .1% you're going to feel if you get it
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ChestnutMareGrazing1 day ago
+29
You're going to feel it is an understatement.
Norovirus asks the "can I puke and poop at the same time?" question.
The answer is yes
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Blubbpaule1 day ago
+23
i just had it on monday.
I THOUGHT I AM F****** DYING.
I puked out more fluid than i imagined fits in a human. 4 hours of puking every 10 minutes.
i felt so sick and hot and cold and hot that i genuinely thought my soul was leaving my body.
I am still super weak and quickly exhausted, but otherwise completely fine again
never again.
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ChestnutMareGrazing1 day ago
+13
Try pouring coca cola in a freezer safe dish, freeze it, and eat little spoonfuls.
It's 3 years tomorrow that I had norovirus and I'm still traumatized
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CaptainCallus1 day ago
+10
The 99.9% is in reference to bacteria. There are a lot of viruses that alcohol doesn't kill, although influenza and covid both have a lipid bi-layer that makes them susceptible to alcohol
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ttaradise1 day ago
+22
Bleach kills it too, and like you said other hospital grade chemicals. The trick is it needs to be a certain dilution and left on for the amount of time it says on the bottle.
The amount of people who think a quick Lysol wipe will kill it… is way too high.
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UCFKnights20181 day ago
+16
Question: if alcohol and hand sanitizer can’t kill it, what is washing your hands with soap going to do?
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madhi191 day ago
+39
You're not killing the virus you're washing it off the skin, and flushing it down the drain... That's why properly soaping and washing your hands often is way better than a quick hand sanitizer.
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UCFKnights20181 day ago
+12
Presuming people actually wash their hands lik they’re supposed to, correct?
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myhouseplantsaredead1 day ago
+56
Physically remove virus particles and wash them away. Bleach and hypochlorous acid are your best bets at actually killing it
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Snoo-118611 day ago
+17
The physical friction is what removes it. It’s the same as C. Diff.
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AudibleNod1 day ago
+485
>“We quickly disinfected every area of the ship and added extra sanitizing throughout the voyage,” the company said in a statement. “Upon arrival to Port Canaveral on May 11, Caribbean Princess will undergo comprehensive cleaning and disinfection before departing for her next voyage.”
It doesn't matter how much sanitizing you do if the same type of people keep booking cruises.
____
* [New research has found handwashing and mask-wearing in the United States since the 2020 election have decreased among Republicans as a sign of loyalty to outgoing President Donald Trump while these behaviours have increased among Democrats.](https://www.massey.ac.nz/about/news/political-affiliations-influence-health-behaviors-to-combat-covid-19-in-the-us/)
* [Republicans are more likely to go on a cruise right now than Democrats](https://www.yahoo.com/news/republicans-more-likely-cruise-now-090000974.html?guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAMVaiPmmiLM6GteCVRS8ei7tu2YI6-kzVqtD310PNE8WtQ0s9tJr_FtvZ5vEsGr4k3eTalQQEx5ZZ9-7r2Zvwnlfkn9modW5LI1iyYe5fFlNPpy6rSKTSkoX-dRgORt2kYXCgDbLlw_fsx8rgpjBIjieIquUVGrtSx8vIJOUCGru)
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Junkstar1 day ago
+108
“Masks are only for when you are breaking the law!”
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SkunkMonkey1 day ago
+65
\**ICE enters the room*\*
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zffjk1 day ago
+156
That last sentence about loyalty for hand washing. Seems kind of nuts he told them not to wash their hands and it landed so hard some science person was able to measure it.
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NUMBERS23571 day ago
+82
"Republicans are not washing their hands as a sign of loyalty to Donald Trump" - I want to make sure this gets into the history books for future generations to understand the state of the country right now.
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PiccoloAwkward4651 day ago
+9
They wore diapers "in support". At this point I would pretty much believe anything.
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Imaginary_Cow_63791 day ago
+13
[Straight from the top](https://www.theguardian.com/media/2019/feb/11/germs-are-not-real-fox-news-host-pete-hegseth)
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SpiderSlitScrotums1 day ago
+33
Masks aren’t super effective with noroviruses. They are extremely small and don’t have an envelope. Even to disinfect, you need things like hydrogen peroxide or bleach. I’m just thankful that noroviruses are so benign (at least from the perspective of serious illness). It would be a nightmare to stop without a vaccine.
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shicken6841 day ago
+49
I think they're mentioning mask resistance to indicate people that refuse to wear masks are probably not very hygienic. If you're willing to have a giant temper tantrum over a mask you're probably the type of a****** that won't wash their hands properly after taking a shit.
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Fractal_Tomato1 day ago
+17
Cleaning surfaces isn’t enough, every toilet flush generates aerosols. Worst case: the ship’s ventilation system disperses them between cabins. Vomiting also generates aerosols. I’d wear an N95 or better, but a cruise isn’t something I’d ever do voluntarily.
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TwoAmps1 day ago
+36
Thr princess cruise description of norovirus as “mild gastrointestinal illness” could only have been written by someone who’s never had the pleasure.
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Fight_those_bastards1 day ago
+40
To be fair, “projectile vomiting and shitting yourself for 36-72 hours” *is* mild compared to something like Ebola, where you puke and shit blood until you die, so…
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TwoAmps1 day ago
+23
IDK, but I think it might be fair to categorize diseases into more categories than “mild” and “fatal”.
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Paavo_Nurmi1 day ago
+8
I lost 7 pounds in 12 hours from norovirus, then I was shitting and puking at the same time and ran out of plastic bags to puke in. The cat's litter box was in the same bathroom so I puked in that while shitting at the same time.
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Kathulhu14331 day ago
+12
... hand washing has decreased?
But... why? 🤮
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Big-Raspberry-61511 day ago
+13
Not washing hands to own the libs. No words man no words
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donedamndoing1 day ago
+67
And this is why we get flu shots among other vaccines in the military. Cause if you're going to stuff tin cans full of people, you want to make sure they don't spread gonorrsyphilitis with a splash of hep A through Z.
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reddit_ending_soon1 day ago
+31
> And this is why we get flu shots among other vaccines in the military
Not anymore
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/pete-hegseth-says-us-military-no-longer-requiring-flu-shots-rcna341256
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ExoticWeapon1 day ago
+13
In whatever history classes exist in the future, the U.S. military divisions and branches will be divided into two categories:
Evil, competent, and embodying power (pre Trump).
And then Evil, incompetent, and shit flinging monkey circus. (Post Trump).
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PolarBurrito1 day ago
+89
Yep I’m definitely not going on a cruise….ever.
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tabrizzi1 day ago
+93
>Even after more than 100 passengers and crew members fell sick during a norovirus outbreak aboard the Caribbean Princess cruise ship, passenger Jan van Milligen said **life on board still felt surprisingly normal**.
>“The normal atmosphere is still here,” van Milligen, who has spent the last 21 days aboard the ship with relatives and friends from South Africa, told NBC News on Saturday. “We went to a show last night, had dinner and breakfast this morning.”
>The outbreak sickened 102 of the ship’s 3,116 passengers and 13 crew members, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. **The predominant symptoms were vomiting and diarrhea**, and the agency cited norovirus as the cause.
Nothings says "surprisingly normal" on a cruise ship than bouts of vomiting and diarrhea from some aboard.
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Whiteguy1x1 day ago
+108
I mean 100 out of 3100 probably isnt that notable if you arent the one shitting your guts out. If anything it might have made it more enjoyable with 100 less people walking aroind
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Reasonable-Turn-59401 day ago
+31
Every year this happens and it always makes me think I'd hate to go on a cruise ship. It seems like just a Golden Corral on the ocean that you're trapped in.
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CulturalChampion86601 day ago
+12
No shit. If you gave me free tickets to a cruise I wouldn't go and I love traveling.
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rm-rf-asterisk1 day ago
+22
Its just news bait to make you feel this way. Hundreds of cruises happen a week. I been on over 50 on my lifetime and never was on a ship with issues.
You are no worse then getting it anywhere else. If anything the ship hospitals have all the drugs you need.
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Scoobilatchi1 day ago
+51
I have booked a three week cruise aboard the luxury ocean liner Petri Dish of the Seas, all inclusive. I’m having second thoughts.
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RiddleoftheSphynx1 day ago
+19
Gross. Well, see y'all in 5 years when we collectively forget and all take cruises again.
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IlliasTallin1 day ago
+14
5 years? More like 5 months.
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QuailBrave491 day ago
+19
Were we even done with hantavirus💀?
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KilluaCactuar1 day ago
+18
Norovirus (and other virus) outbreaks are generally common on cruise ships.
This article just uses the hantavirus situation to grab some attention for something ordinary.
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Effective-Tour-99121 day ago
+11
This would have been the fate of the northernlion cruise
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Low_Search_66671 day ago
+10
I have a friend that loves cruises. They never sounded exciting to me.
Then I heard about a norovirus outbreak on a cruise ship and that sent chills down my spine.
I have never been so sick as I was when I had norovirus. I was delusional. I spent 12 hours going at one end and then the other every half hour.
It was the worst thing I've ever experienced.
I'll never get on a cruise ship. Never.
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GeoBrian1 day ago
+9
I went on a Princess cruise over New Years, along the Mexican Riviera.
I was pleasantly surprised by how seriously they took hygiene. Before you entered the buffet area, there was an area with a washbasin and a crew member asking everyone who entered to wash their hands. Sadly, only about 25% did. And they had people everywhere sanitizing surfaces.
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Brolocene1 day ago
+7
Every virus gets their own cruise ship, now.
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JayS871 day ago
+7
Those ships are like wet markets in speed run mode
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Civil_Owl_311 day ago
+7
I’ve had the luxury of having NoroVirus twice. 12 years apart. Just long enough to make you forget how horrible it really was.
It was horrible and I wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy.
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spacemermaid17011 day ago
+8
Norovirus found on cruise ship. Fork found in kitchen.
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burnttoast123211 day ago
+8
[for reference:](https://www.nfid.org/infectious-disease/norovirus/)
> Norovirus causes an estimated 19–21 million illnesses, 109,000 hospitalizations, and 900 deaths annually in the U.S., making it the leading cause of vomiting and diarrhea from acute gastroenteritis. Roughly 1 in 15 Americans gets sick with norovirus each year, with about 2,500 reported outbreaks occurring annually.
Seems like news for news sake. Being close together of course ups the count. Nothing crazy though.
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N0Ability1 day ago
+8
I got norovirus at the end of last year (no Cruises were involved),its like a realy REALY bad gastroentritis,i cant remember another time in my life where i was shitting and vomiting at literally the same time,ended up losing like 3-4kg in two days and could barely walk in the morning where it was the worst .
The synthoms started out of no where but it also went away preety fast as two days after i was mostly back to normal.
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The45Longslide1 day ago
+8
Cruises are a sucky way to travel, and here’s another reason why..
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Oilpaintcha1 day ago
+51
They really just need to spray all these cruise ships down with bleach.
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KimJongFunk1 day ago
+23
All cruise ship health inspection reports are publicly available. Look for the high scorers.
[https://wwwn.cdc.gov/inspectionquerytool/inspectionwith100score.aspx](https://wwwn.cdc.gov/inspectionquerytool/inspectionwith100score.aspx)
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eggstinked1 day ago
+57
They need to just stop operating. Let's give the oceans a break from our bullshit.
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Oilpaintcha1 day ago
+26
Remember those photos of Venice from Covid when the waters were as blue as the Caribbean Sea?
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W1ldy0uth1 day ago
+75
You couldn’t pay me enough money to step foot on a cruise ship
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winterbird1 day ago
+29
I've never been on a cruise and never want to go on one. But I do have a price, if someone out there just enjoys making people do random things that they don't want to do.
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E_seven_201 day ago
+6
After seeing how bad shit can get on a cruise with a pathogen during COVID….nope.
These companies are horrible, and terrible for the environment as well…none of that is going to stop people from doing it though.
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lAngenoire1 day ago
+6
I feel sorry for them. It must be miserable. No worse time to share a bathroom.
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JohnsonLiesac20 hr ago
+5
If only there were a way to connect the government firing almost all the Vessel Sanitation Program inspectors back in April 2025 and these cruise ship disease outbreaks. There is something there I just can't quite figure it out...
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testtdk1 day ago
+5
Can we just add them to the hantavirus cruise and wait a little while? Seems like it should resolve itself.
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TheDevilsAdvokaat1 day ago
+5
Beats me why people want to go on these things. Ever since COvid I see them as plague ships.
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keen361 day ago
+5
100, Norovirus, that's BRUTAL
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D_Winds1 day ago
+6
I'm starting to think Patient Zero is the Ship itself.
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Shoddy_Squash_12011 day ago
+4
I really don't get the appeal of cruises.
Expensive, tiny rooms way too many people in too little space with no way of escaping, except the occasional stop which is strictly scheduled.
Literally hell on earth, even without the constant disease outbreaks.
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Other-Mess68871 day ago
+5
Cruise ship HVAC systems spread air born diseases. You are breathing air in your cabin mixed with air from hundreds of cabins.
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Life-Sun-1 day ago
+6
I thought we all learned cruise ships are disease ships during Covid. I don’t know why they’re still a thing.
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ham_solo1 day ago
+4
Gosh cruises seem like such fun
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Temporary_Client758523 hr ago
+6
I seriously side eye anyone who goes on a cruise. Can’t even tell you how many of my family members were sick or hospitalized after a cruise.
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Relative-Dog-60121 day ago
+16
Excited for cruise prices the go down.
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DoggedStooge1 day ago
+4
At least this is the usual type of viral infection to hit cruises. We know how to deal with this shit.
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BitchWidget1 day ago
+3
I used to want to take a cruise so badly. I love the ocean, I love ships, and I love an all inclusive package. These days it just seems like a petri dish of regret.
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wing3d1 day ago
+4
What did we learn about exponential growth?
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Timely_Spinach_74791 day ago
+4
Somebody has poopy hands!
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Wasaox1 day ago
+4
There were never any positive news coming out of a cruise ship. Ever.
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immutate1 day ago
+4
Oh look, another cruise outbreak. How could we have ever seen this coming?
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MyTatemae1 day ago
+4
Stop 👏🏽 taking 👏🏽 vacations 👏🏽 while 👏🏽 sick 👏🏽
If you have the money for a cruise, you have the money for the dumb insurance that lets you reschedule if you *do* get sick. Please pay for it and stop becoming super spreader assholes.
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Hsensei1 day ago
+4
Can we get a nono hanta hybrid. I don't want to pay bills any more
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MCStarlight23 hr ago
+3
Yuck, floating Petri dishes.
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sampysamp21 hr ago
+5
The cruise industry is trash, I was hoping the pandemic would have killed it.
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