The first issue, the pump had to be primed. This time it's pee frozen in the vent tubes. So they are trying to warm the lines.
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random3146 days ago
+1026
Better this shit happens now than three days into a real month long moon mission.
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TheForeverUnbanned6 days ago
+741
I mean that is the entire point of this mission, it’s an environmental systems shakedown test
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pzvaldes6 days ago
+157
Elon's mission now is to build a robot that goes "peep" and "poop."
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forchinski5 days ago
+56
And if they refuse to use it he will get really mad and baselessly call someone a pedophile
Just like old times
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Theletterkay5 days ago
+35
Dont you mean the engineers. Elon doesnt build shit...or pee....or anything.
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Commercial-Co6 days ago
+116
F*** elon. That pedophille
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FlyingStealthPotato6 days ago
+141
It would probably be better if this shit happens after they fix the toilet lines.
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LiamtheV6 days ago
+24
In an ideal world, it would only happen *before* they fix the toilet lines, would *never* happen after the lines have been fixed.
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PassiveTheme6 days ago
+40
Yep. This is part of why they're doing a test flight
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biosc16 days ago
+241
I did hear them say it was colder than they expected. So likely some heat system not working properly?
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readytofall6 days ago
+176
If it's the vent tube that's frozen it's not super relevant to cabin temp. Venting liquids to space is actually kinda difficult. Or at least it takes some planning. Liquids dumping into a vacuum freeze because they evaporate at a crazy rate and cool down the liquid. I've seen 60C water sprayed into a vacuum chamber immediately freeze on the nozzle and clog it up.
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SonOfMcGee6 days ago
+97
Yeah, liquid water boils when the vapor pressure equals the surrounding pressure. And if the surrounding pressure is the perfect vacuum of space, it essentially flash-boils. *Any* energy it has is enough to boil.
Somewhat counterintuitively, this also freezes the remaining water at some point. Because all that evaporation steals heat from the liquid and lowers the temperature.
So if you expose room-temp water to space you should get a whole lot of vapor really quickly and be left with a small amount of very cold ice.
At least that’s my understanding.
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fleemfleemfleemfleem6 days ago
+36
As I understand it Apollo used a heated vent tube to deal with that issue, and the ISS recycled the fluid component.
I wonder if there's an issue with the new design.
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_EatAtJoes_6 days ago
+33
The heating element was potentially malfunctioning. They troubleshooted that it was causing a burning smell in the cabin, and so they turned it off as a precaution. This in turn allowed the urine to freeze up in the mechanism. They have since oriented the adjustable exterior nozzle towards the sun, hoping to help free it up.
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dervu5 days ago
+12
So they are gonna shit on the sun?
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jackfwaust6 days ago
+14
somewhere, at some point, at some time, someone or some thing is going to be driving their space ship and get splashed with frozen piss on their viewport
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JesterMarcus6 days ago
+61
Yeah, like they are bundling up a bit.
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GaseousGiant6 days ago
+133
According to the AP: “Engineers suspect ice may be blocking the line that is preventing urine from completely flushing overboard. The toilet is still open for No. 2 business.”
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MyLifeIsAWasteland6 days ago
+77
But how do you number 2 without number 1 happening automatically?
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mosquem5 days ago
+49
Really that’s the only thing keeping me from
being an astronaut.
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xvoy6 days ago
+49
It’s already separate devices. Pee goes in a hose you need to hold up against/inside. Solid waste goes via a toilet. Both use some level of suction to move the waste.
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Mirigore6 days ago
+30
In what world is a HOSE going in anywhere?
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Sadcelerystick6 days ago
+47
They’re not on this world anymore so…
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xvoy5 days ago
+24
Boys put their parts inside. Girls hold up the cup piece against themselves.
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weeBaaDoo6 days ago
+129
Dumping the warp core could fix this. It’s a long shot, but it’s probably their only option.
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Sweetdreams6t96 days ago
+77
Using a quantum wave analysis, they should establish that the dilithium matrix is in flux. By substituting the main baryonic pressure with crystals from the residual ventrical mainstay, they can reroute power from the deflector shield to boost power to the thermal regulators.
....that was actually fun to write.
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Hopeful-Programmer256 days ago
+46
I’ve watched too much Star Trek. That almost made sense….
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drpiotrowski6 days ago
+22
Which voice did you hear reading it? For me it was Le Forge.
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Aazadan6 days ago
+13
What if they use the holochamber to recreate a positronic brain that can be rerouted to main engineering so it can recalibrate the heisenburg compensators to the warp core frequency and then channel a high energy gamma ray burst along the phaser arrays, to invert the deflector?
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joesmithtron46 days ago
+6
Only after they reverse the polarity!
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nameduser3656 days ago
+55
Pee is warm. Pee on it. Oh. Wait...
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santathe16 days ago
+41
Just warm it up with more piss. It’s not rocket science.
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LemonPartyW0rldTour5 days ago
+5
“I’m a solids and liquids expulsion engineer.”
“You’re a space plumber, don’t try Frenching it up.”
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Certified-T-Rex6 days ago
+14
Someone get R. Kelly
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Snoutysensations6 days ago
+2663
Apparently the Apollo missions left 96 bags of human feces on the moon, to save weight on the return voyage for moon rocks etc. Those bags of moon-poop will long outlast most human creations.
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bros4026 days ago
+1238
It's a good sample of 1960s-era human DNA!
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lordraiden0076 days ago
+718
I like to think that one day future human historians will be debating the eating habits of the 1960’s and be forced to dig up astronaut poop on the moon to settle the debate
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tktkboom846 days ago
+267
We at least know what a very large percent of one individuals samples will be... since buzz ate 19 bowls of oatmeal
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tiffanytrashcan6 days ago
+120
You're telling me the man *enjoyed* pooping in bags?
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SoftlySpokenPromises6 days ago
+86
After all that oatmeal he was just pushing sawdust through his system.
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jazzhandler6 days ago
+13
Or he understood that oatmeal consumption and toilet paper requirements are inversely correlated.
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milesamsterdam6 days ago
+4
WTF? That’s too much oatmeal. Like shitting a baby’s arm each time.
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budbud706 days ago
+33
Reads like a Doctor Who plot lmao
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MaintenanceChance2166 days ago
+29
The year is 3400, the humanity is on the brink of extinction, not because cataclysmic events nor the hubris of humankind and the explotation of natural resources. But because the astronomical leaps in genetic therapy has lead everyone to share 90% of their DNA with the rest of the humanity.
Only if a new sample of human DNA is found we can save humanity, by re-introducing faulty "old" DNA into our society.
The answer lies on the moon
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sharkbait-oo-haha6 days ago
+8
Funnily enough, that's the basic plot of the "Grey's" species of Aliens in the Stargate universe. Their race is so old they can no longer give birth, instead every being is a clone and much like a copy of a copy of a copy it degrades every generation, over a million generations it adds up to extinction.
Though from memory, their solution was more or less just to just go extinct and pass some knowledge onto the baby humanity race.
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Greful6 days ago
+52
Or they use the poop to clone a super Buzz Aldrin as their last chance to stop the alien invasion. Turns out the aliens are moon landing deniers, and he fuckin HATES that shit.
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Atalung6 days ago
+6
Buzz Aldrin Ghola
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Truont26 days ago
+11
Alien space explorers discover bags of food left behind by earthlings
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Druggedhippo6 days ago
+3
Fun fact.
Humans have been exposed to PFAS and microplastics for so long there is no longer available baselines to test against, any sample you take from any human on the globe will be contaminated.
Old poop left on the moon might actually be useful someday.
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Torgud_6 days ago
+85
Wouldn't any DNA be destroyed by cosmic radiation after a few years?
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NorthernerWuwu6 days ago
+60
It is difficult to say since we haven't actually run the experiments but the limited genetic materials present in feces would certainly be damaged quickly.
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bros4026 days ago
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time for them to rescue the poo and test it
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Room_Temp_Coffee6 days ago
+16
Test it on the moon lol With our luck, some super strain of bacteria will have survived and they'll bring it back with them
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Disused_Yeti6 days ago
+111
Exposed to 50+ years of space radiation. I smell a moon horror script. And old poop
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muegle6 days ago
+67
> I smell a moon horror script
*cocks gun* poop's haunted
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MyLifeIsAWasteland6 days ago
+25
*cocks gun* Always has been.
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Carbonatite6 days ago
+11
The poop was mixed with disinfectant so there wouldn't be bacterial gas buildup, that plus radiation plus the temperature extremes on the moon probably guarantees that any fecal matter was rendered sterile decades ago.
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Bipogram6 days ago
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With far fewer microplastics mixed in - but higher lead levels.
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X3TheBigOX36 days ago
+149
I didn't know that. Now when people say the moon landing was fake I'll point out the fact that there's a bunch of poopy bags up there from that mission.
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North-Pea-49266 days ago
+98
There’s also mirrors you can bounce lasers off of to exactly track the moon’s distance!
https://wtop.com/science/2019/07/the-experiment-still-running-on-the-moon-and-tv-re-runs-50-years-later/
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showme_yourdogs6 days ago
+24
How do you know you won't blow up the moon?
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Bellick5 days ago
+4
That's the neat part. You don't
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thewilldog6 days ago
+29
Jesus, i hate when dog owners leave their shit baggies behind. Didn't know NASA was guilty of same
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Carbonatite6 days ago
+88
I understand why they did it, but it also makes me a little sad. It seems like a poignant metaphor for human impact on pristine nature. But I'm an environmental scientist who works on remediation so maybe I'm just projecting.
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Snoutysensations6 days ago
+17
For every human being who looks up at the moon in the nights to come will know that there is some corner of another world that is forever mankind.
~ William Safire
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ilikemrrogers5 days ago
+8
Maybe a tomato plant is growing up there. (Hopefully you get this reference.)
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Trzlog5 days ago
+6
Wouldn't any animal leave poop where they go?
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OpheliaRainGalaxy5 days ago
+5
Shhh, humans get upset when ya remind them that they're animals.
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silverwoodchuck476 days ago
+20
"We've identified what this particular molecule is. It's something called Tang." -- scientist in the future
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Worldly_Anybody_92196 days ago
+22
I wonder if any of the most resilient microbes survived in those bags of poop. Crazy to think about!
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Snoutysensations6 days ago
+49
Apparently there is serious scientific interest in a retrieval mission to study just that!
https://www.vox.com/science-and-health/2019/3/22/18236125/apollo-moon-poop-mars-science
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SpelingChampion6 days ago
+102
Leave it to humans to land on a rock and leave all our shit behind when we leave.
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RVelts6 days ago
+12
Now that's a fun fact.
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crybannanna6 days ago
+5
And if anyone is trapped on the moon, they can use it to farm potatoes.
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hmr09876 days ago
+1661
First rule of space travel is establishing a pee corner.
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DrDetectiveEsq6 days ago
+400
This is part of why rocket science is so notoriously difficult. Where do you put the piss corner in a round capsule?
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FairySnack6 days ago
+90
And things float...
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DreamCentipede6 days ago
+5904
Guys, this is a different instance from the first, lol.
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Pndrizzy6 days ago
+1193
Just make the poop corner and get it over with
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SpaceCadetEdelman6 days ago
+386
It’s a round/conical capsule.. next time they should definitely go with a square shape, wombats would approve.
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Cloud_Fortress6 days ago
+69
Unfortunately, I understood this
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Basediver2106 days ago
+94
Houston, we have a pooplem.
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BarristanTheB0ld6 days ago
+47
Problem is that the poop won't stay in that corner
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Pndrizzy6 days ago
+20
Floating shit is a vibe
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somekindafuzz6 days ago
+14
Poop and toilet paper, more poop more toilet paper. It's like...a poop lasagna.
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lostroadrunner226 days ago
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Can’t they just hang it out the window?
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ShutterBun6 days ago
+115
“It’s simply a matter of rolling down the window and asking where the nearest gas station is”
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SortOfWanted6 days ago
+26
No, a violent fart would push them off-course.
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snrjames6 days ago
+50
So you're saying this is a #2 problem?
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foresight3106 days ago
+13
So, you’re saying this is issue number two…?
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MonoBlancoATX6 days ago
+1057
Just gonna have to hold it til we get home.
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LGBT-Barbie-Cookout6 days ago
+310
So help me if you don't stop complaining ill turn this around and we will go home .
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Alwayssunnyinarizona6 days ago
+99
I told you to go before we left, but you were all "I went earlier," now we've got to pull over in the middle of rush hour.
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Harbinger20016 days ago
+28
Just pull over and pee outside.
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MobileArtist13716 days ago
+4
nbd until about 2 blocks away from home.
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MrsBonsai1716 days ago
+151
My 10 year old is heavily invested in the bathroom shenanigans of the astronauts
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Appropriate_Ice_24336 days ago
+57
First question while watching the launch from my child, “they are wearing diapers aren’t they?”
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Morak736 days ago
+4
And probably Space Plumbers, too. The irony of the release timing.
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SorenShieldbreaker6 days ago
+816
It’s crazy that we have the ability to accelerate humans to 25,000 miles/hour into space but still struggle overcoming stuff like bathroom breaks. Goes to show how much engineering goes into every aspect of space travel
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MichaelMyersEatsDogs6 days ago
+482
Goes to show important gravity is to our entire existence
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RVelts6 days ago
+131
Almost like we've evolved in its presence since the very first organisms
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deadlybydsgn6 days ago
+62
> Goes to show important gravity is to our entire existence
It wasn't until watching The Expanse that I realized gravity even plays a role when we have bleeding wounds. That show makes space a main character in the most interesting of ways.
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EstateConscious35806 days ago
+13
Yeah I'm currently watching and it took me by total surprise. It makes sense but it's surreal to actually think about
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fleemfleemfleemfleem6 days ago
+15
In this case the issue was to do wasn't the absence of gravity, it was the absence of a working sewage system, which has been an issue for most of human history.
You need somewhere for it to go.
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32FlavorsofCrazy6 days ago
+114
The toilets are arguably the most difficult thing to engineer up there. They were offering a huge prize a few years back for an engineer who could design a functional toilet that would work both in zero G and on the lunar surface. It’s a common issue on the ISS too, and things…escape. There’s a great audio clip from Apollo 10 when there was a turd at large in the space craft and I don’t think they even knew who it belonged to.
Edit: I stand corrected, it was Apollo 10.
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Carbonatite6 days ago
+40
That transcript is hilarious.
"God almighty"
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OwlOfJune5 days ago
+13
https://www.nbcnews.com/sciencemain/poop-space-revisited-apollo-10s-floating-turds-pop-44-years-1c9284102
> "Give me a napkin, quick," Stafford says. "There's a turd floating through the air."
> "I didn't do it," Young says. "It ain't one of mine."
> "I don't think it's one of mine," Cernan says.
Love how human the conversation is. First reaction is deny it is their poop.
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32FlavorsofCrazy5 days ago
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Haha yeah, I mean…nobody wants to go down in history as the guy that pooped the spaceship.
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Soupeeee6 days ago
+26
*Apollo 10
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forogtten_taco6 days ago
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There is a reason this is a test flight around the moon, and not landing on it. Also, first of its kind space toilet.
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Spykron6 days ago
+24
Sending probes and robots into space is pretty easy compared to a human that expects to be somewhat comfortable and you know, return.
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GhostofAyabe6 days ago
+11
New Ford aircraft carriers have defective toilets because it’s now some kind of cruise ship suction bullshit.
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IceTech596 days ago
+5
I've seen hideous CHT backup on Korean War era Navy ships and Nimitz class carriers. Brown Trout we called the turds surfing to & fro with the roll of the ship. I've only heard of the Ford problem, after my time.
I've seen it on a 42 ft. sailboat once too.
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zoqfotpik6 days ago
+865
I've seen things you people wouldn't believe
Gaskets burning in the head of Orion
I've watched pee beams, glittering down on the Tannhauser Gate
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imjoeycusack6 days ago
+208
Like tears of piss.
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VCider6 days ago
+52
Time to go
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punchcreations6 days ago
+21
Like pee dribble in the rain.
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LittleRedCorvette26 days ago
+18
Well that just made my Easter. Genuinely laughed out loud.
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ywgflyer6 days ago
+253
Space truckers with space piss jugs. Ray would be proud.
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187365421908430769226 days ago
+48
The way of the road, Bubbs.
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someone_sometwo6 days ago
+25
Way she goes boys.
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Hamonwrysangwich6 days ago
+13
They should get Nevaeh Petty to handle the space piss jugs.
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rogercopernicus6 days ago
+9
Do they still throw them out of the window?
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ywgflyer6 days ago
+14
Does the Tin Man have a sheet metal c***?
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DirtDevil13376 days ago
+903
Howard Wolowitz is at fault.
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RammRras6 days ago
+170
I immediately thought of him 😅🤣
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UlluKaPetha6 days ago
+83
The solid waste distribution system you mean
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NoMidnight53666 days ago
+78
It was my immediate thought and then knowing how BBT is rooted in reality I think they set this scenario up because it must be a running joke with astronauts about having a toilet and being the guy who’s job it is to design one.
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atlantagirl300846 days ago
+37
The Space Station and Mir had toilet problems too.
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3BlindMice16 days ago
+23
Toilets surprisingly break often when they're one off rube Goldberg machines designed to fit in a strangely contorted position, because, in theory, it's one of the least important devices around, and have to work without the assistance of gravity
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Advice2Anyone6 days ago
+24
Its the juxtaposition of the high tech nature of space exploration against the banality of malfunction toilet that provides the comic fodder here
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demeschor6 days ago
+38
Wolowitz Zero Gravity Waste *Distribution* System strikes again
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BaddestDucky6 days ago
+11
I watched the episode earlier this week, so my mind immediately went to Howard Wolowitz. Glad to see others thought the same.
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nothingbuthetruth226 days ago
+12
Not enough breadcrumbs.
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SergeantChic6 days ago
+40
I was watching the livestream earlier and they were talking about a burning smell coming from the toilet. A burning smell seems like the kind of thing you *don't* want when you're on a spaceship. I hope everything will go all right for them.
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Trzlog5 days ago
+12
Before the mission they'd been told that they might encounter a smell similar to burning. Nothing is actually burning.
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mayorofdumb5 days ago
+3
We just add that burning smell for effect.
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mechaczech6 days ago
+173
https://apnews.com/article/nasa-moon-artemis-astronauts-85bd7e2d77284c3d53ca2a38cf7dee13
In case anyone wanted yet another source that this is in fact a different story. Space plumbing is hard, yo.
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blankvoidoid6 days ago
+340
>"The pee trickles by like glowing gems in the vacuum of space as it zooms by the Orion’s windows."
i could have gone the rest of my life without reading that sentence
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AirBoss876 days ago
+86
Something tells me you've never watched Apollo 13. 😆
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RigusOctavian6 days ago
+41
Constellation U-Rine
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Chiron176 days ago
+15
"I've seen things you people wouldn't believe."
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SubmissiveDinosaur6 days ago
+24
Well at least My job and those astronauts share the same problem
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fxkatt6 days ago
+644
>*The onboard toilet is perhaps the spaceflight amenity held most dear to astronauts who value creature comforts.*
Amenity?? Creature comfort?? What world are they living in?
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MarkCuckerberg694206 days ago
+495
Not ours, at least for the next few days.
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tsara_be6 days ago
+382
The astronauts on the Apollo missions shat in plastic bags so yeah, this toilet is a luxury in comparison.
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hotlavatube6 days ago
+146
Yeah, I just looked up a [video on the poop bags](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRl-qAjKLEI). Sounds... "fun".
I wouldn't be surprised if they have some poop bags stashed in case the toilet system breaks down.
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BradMarchandsNose6 days ago
+160
I’d be surprised is they *didnt* have poop bags as a backup. They almost certainly do.
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dern_the_hermit6 days ago
+67
Any bag could be a poop bag if need be
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RadicalOrganizer6 days ago
+31
I shat in a McDonald's cup once. It was a better alternative than the public bathroom in DTLA. A bag would be fine too.
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ragnarok6356 days ago
+15
Uhh...large soda cup or McCafe cup?
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RadicalOrganizer6 days ago
+13
Mccafe large cup. It did well and came with a lid!
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StuffonBookshelfs6 days ago
+12
I have to assume, that in space, some bags definitely cannot be poop bags….for very long at least.
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urbanhawk16 days ago
+5
The problem is that if the bag can't seal you'll have poop floating around the capsule in 0 gravity.
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nickcash6 days ago
+5
Apollo 10 even had altogether different poop incidents: https://www.iflscience.com/floating-mystery-turds-interrupted-the-apollo-10-mission-twice-62644
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optimis3446 days ago
+47
The one where they are in space.
Anything beyond air, water and food is an amenity when you are off the planet.
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VapidActualization6 days ago
+6
Miriam Webster defines an amenity as "something that helps to provide comfort, convenience, or enjoyment".
Definitionally, those three are the biggest amenities provided to astronauts while in space.
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pchlster6 days ago
+43
>What world are they living in?
A tiny little fragile pressure vessel where every gram has to be accounted for. And they can't crack a window either or the air will leave.
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Purely_Theoretical6 days ago
+15
Toilets don't grow on trees and even if they did, you wouldn't find them up there.
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Bipedal_Warlock6 days ago
+16
>what world are they living in?
Interesting choice of words
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TheTerribleInvestor6 days ago
+8
Brother, there aren't any creatures where they're going.
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pmacnayr6 days ago
+7
One where they shit and piss into bags I’m guessing, not a great world
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Bellegante6 days ago
+6
>What world are they living in?
Fun fact, they literally aren't living in a world
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freedfg6 days ago
+10
Not earth
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NatureTrailToHell3D6 days ago
+6
They are testing a new toilet design where you can #1 and #2 at the same time. This is a big upgrade from the space station and previous vessels.
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Drain_Surgeon696 days ago
+14
I believe I have been summoned.
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PipChaos6 days ago
+29
Did they launch without a poop knife?
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kalayt6 days ago
+39
is the toilet running on Microsoft Outlook as well?
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Scrantonicity_026 days ago
+31
If it’s yellow, let it mellow. If it’s brown, let it float around
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Inocain6 days ago
+3
Oh so you were the Apollo 10 Poop Bandit!
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icancomplain6 days ago
+35
this "space" thing not sounding so great after all.
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energyinmotion6 days ago
+34
Howard Wolowitz is freaking out rn.
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ailish6 days ago
+6
I am so happy that so many people are excited about this. We need something good to focus on with so many terrible things happening in the world.
I am not happy about frozen urine in the vent line. That sucks for them.
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CastIronPots6 days ago
+6
Back in my day we made it to the moon without a toilet!
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srl214yahoo6 days ago
+16
Howard Wolowitz desiged the toilet, didn't he?
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SaltyBigBoi6 days ago
+6
Time to bust out the condom pee bags!
They made some for the women too right?……
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Funnelcakeads6 days ago
+5
This is like ultimate panic mode for me. Cause I hate to poop at work regardless.
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Creacherz6 days ago
+4
"F***.. who's Oh Henry is this??"
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ActualWhiterabbit6 days ago
+4
I helped test the ISS toilet, I didn't work on anything with this one. Take that as you will. Maybe if I had helped ensure all the data supplied from one private school professor had the correct file naming scheme, it would have had no issues.
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glorious_reptile5 days ago
+4
In space nobody can hear you poop
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ForwardStorage7775 days ago
+5
It's 2026. How did they not account for this?
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Fallacy_Spotted5 days ago
+4
They should gone before they left. That is roadtrip rule number 1!
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