> US, China, major Middle East oil and gas producers not attending
China apparently has its own idea on how to reduce exposure, while US is just an idiot.
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redyellowblue503113 hr ago
+58
Best we can do is double down that wind and solar is bad.
Oil good.
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Left-Night-112510 hr ago
+2
Might as well double down on Nucleair is bad.
Greenpeace is partly to blame for this crisis.
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Full_Result_310110 hr ago
+2
The Hippies really fucked us in the 60's with their anti-nuclear bullshit, Its too late/impractical now to switch to nuclear tho.
Solar/Wind/Hydro/etc.. is cheaper.
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redsquizza7 hr ago
+1
Nuclear power was supposed to be a boon that energy would be too c**** to meter.
Then some disasters happened and everyone got cold feet.
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thejourneybegins4210 hr ago
+1
Didn't a member of Congress straight up say wind is bad, because it's not a renewable energy resource? Smfh
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Suspicious_Place12707 hr ago
+1
not every person knows that wind is produced by bird farts
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firthy11 hr ago
+7
More windmills near Trump’s golf courses please.
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winmace10 hr ago
+4
Make them spell out trump is a c*** via satellite
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Aptosauras9 hr ago
+2
Put speakers on them and you could broadcast your public service announcement.
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Lukin48 hr ago
+2
He seems to be spelling that out pretty clearly himself
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CupEcstatic272113 hr ago
+8
Maybe the US is ashamed of what they have done, and that's why they decided to ignore this event/s
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MiserableTennis654612 hr ago
+8
The people might feel it but Trump and the gang are incapable of feeling shame.
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beeslic11 hr ago
+4
I think it's just that oil is the easiest type of energy to exploit and make money off of. I don't know for sure tho.
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CaptPants7 hr ago
+1
More like "China -- looks at the insane rate that it's already building renewable power plants -- It's ok, we're good"
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Raised_bi_Wolves12 hr ago
+52
The writings been on the wall for what, three decades? Why are these leaders so hilariously unfit for these times.
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PositiveUse11 hr ago
+8
I don’t know of a single competent leader.
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Raised_bi_Wolves11 hr ago
+17
maaaybe Carney? But he is likely going to get bogged down trying to use normal neolib economics to slowly right the ship, ignoring the massive hole in the side
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Broad-Lobster747011 hr ago
+7
He is kind of the only decent one isn’t he
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G00b3rb0y9 hr ago
+2
Albo has been somewhat capable, striking deals with regional neighbours
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AnalFistingSasquatch13 hr ago
+74
China has been at the forefront of green, wind & other alternative power sources for years. The bullshit propaganda the US pushes would have you think the Chinese still live in straw huts.
Most of the world wants to move on from fossil fuels because there’s enough scientific research to back up the long term harm to the environment and humans overall health.
It’s only the US that is more interested in lining the pockets of the already super wealthy to appease donors. They voted to choke on smog, Let them eat cake.
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rangeDSP13 hr ago
+49
Even discarding all that, oil just doesn't make much sense strategically. Letting a handful of middle eastern countries control your whole country's economy, with complex logistics that spans half the world.
Renewable (and to a much lesser extent, nuclear) makes you so much less dependent on others, especially ones that doesn't align with your ethics/morals. Europe is learning the hard way after the Russian invasion.
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SirDale12 hr ago
+29
My 6 year old shitty EV totally agrees with you. It's still doing 95% of our driving, free of any Middle East issues. During summer it's almost totally powered by our solar panels too.
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scorpiknox11 hr ago
+20
China gets more than 60% of their electricity from coal. They're just as bad as anyone else.
Edit: I love the downvoting of a fact. Perfect.
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Sieve-Boy11 hr ago
+8
Actually as of 2025 coal now supplies \~55% of China's electricity. Its not that total coal consumption is declining (it is, but only marginally), its just that the strong growth in electrical consumption is being fulfilled by wind and solar.
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Suspicious_Place127013 hr ago
+6
"looks at anything outside a big city, realizes it's not true and they still do live in tofu dreg apartments or unfinished houses"
Stats from china are simply unreliable. I'm not denying their movement for renewables, but it's a fact that they still use a sh*tton of coal and other ecologically crazy expensive energy sources
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appleparkfive10 hr ago
+4
There's been a strong demoralization campaign from China to, well... Demoralize Americans. And it's working so well. China is making great strides with tech without a doubt. But a lot of people addicted to social media have fallen into a trap. All of the content that says China is amazing, and that everything about the US is bad.
This isn't some conspiracy theory. It's just straight up happening. Just use basic logic anyway: You want to be number 1, but you can't overtake America by force or anything remotely like that. Well, next best thing is to demoralize, as well as divide and conquer. You can make tons of bots with shitty Android phones, and then sway people's opinions on a topic. Imagine what you can do with government funding and servers.
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Suspicious_Place12707 hr ago
+1
exactly, and that dude commenting on my comments is really not understanding the propaganda
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bautofdi11 hr ago
What are you blabbing about. The same can be said for the U.S. Outside of any city in the U.S. the rednecks all live in meth house shit heaps.
China’s cities are already vastly superior to any U.S. city in terms of infrastructure and public utilities. Just go visit any tier 1 or 2 city and it’s night and day compared to the U.S.
Burning 6 trillion to blow up random brown people every few years is really starting to show our underinvestment in our own society.
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Suspicious_Place12707 hr ago
+1
you're focusing too much on USA, I'm not talking about that
China is heavily investing in its cities, but everything else is literally, no joke, falling apart
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madgoblin9211 hr ago
+1
Which "outside of big city" are you referring to? Example please? Have you really been to China lately? I was personally there in multiple rural regions of Yunnan and even there deep in the mountains the facilities and apartments you have there are comparable to many European cities. And a lot of buildings are built with solar heaters.
Yeah, propaganda has to flow.
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F1No4712 hr ago
What % of their energy production is renewables. And by what % is that increasing/decreasing every year? How do those numbers look compared to the US?
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Suspicious_Place127011 hr ago
-1
comparing anything to the us, a 3rd world country, is nonsense.
usa is doing nothing to help their population
as said, stats from china are not reliable
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Suspicious_Place127013 hr ago
+9
ai love it how "nations" think about exiting this garbage once it stops being c****
if we could have only done this sooner
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MiserableTennis654612 hr ago
+6
The oil economies have held up the climate talks for years, so we're going to have to go on with talks without them to get anything done. It has very little to do with the price.
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sunnykutta11 hr ago
+1
You can check out any time you like, but you can neva leeeeeaaaaave
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meat_sack8 hr ago
+1
I notice the article calls out moving away from fossil fuels numerous times, yet fails to mention what they're moving to... solar? nuclear? hamster wheel powered turbines? The closest they get is saying "to electric" ...but what is creating that electric?
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Carbonga7 hr ago
+1
It really should be called the US war.
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DifferenceNo300010 hr ago
Fossil exit will never be a viable thing, as long as the infrastructure is vulnerable
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