NATO chief says some European allies were tested and failed in Iran war

How can he possibly forget it? That's their entire purpose!

>He, as a secretary, forgot about this Secretary General, that's basically the highest position in NATO

You mean he had no active recollection of it

To add to that, the US were the ones who insisted on the clause that NATO was restricted to Europe and the US.

He's just saying what he has to to keep the tangerine toddler out of a tantrum. He met him at the white house today. He's more a tard wrangler then anything else these days. The head of nato does, shocking though it may be, have a very good understanding of what nato is.

'1) is so effective and passive, it goes unnoticed and taken for granted. Apart from Al-Qaida that one time, nobody attacks NATO because 1) is so overwhelming. That just leaves 2) to be noticed. But in comparison, 2) is paltry and rarely works how the US wants it or the world sees it. But it sometimes does so people notice that.

NATO is a defensive alliance. It only comes to a member’s aid if that country is attacked, it doesn’t automatically join every conflict. If a member initiates an attack, NATO isn’t obligated to step in, because its purpose is collective defense, not offense. Trump and the admin are manipulative traitors. All of them.

not one, millions of them

Does NATO have the remit to deal with this man?

Nope.. Trump can’t read

Kinda hard to do that when they've not been attacked by Iran.. But the US never let things like details get in the way of their narrative.

They're too busy summoning demons, pedo ghosts and the antichrist these days.

Trump isn’t just bitching about nato tho. Japan Korea and Australia have also been singled out several times at the same time he’s bitching out nato.

It seems like *everyone* is just trying to appease Trump these days. And look at how well that is going.

"until the clock runs out" He's the president for almost 3 more years and it's pretty 50/50 whether his VP is going to win in 2028, every recent election has been on a knife's edge.

This is not smart play. Constantly appeasing him has been the method from Europe during the first, and the beginning of this term, and it has only strengthen him and made him more sure about his stupid ideas. What has worked best is to call his bullshit and let him TACO, which is what Europeans leaders have started doing more and more as of late. That is the smart strategy. Rutte is undermining that, I understand what he think he is doing, but the guy is a disaster. He is supposed to act in the interest of Nato, which means for the best of the alliance, and implying Spain has betrayed Nato for banning U.S from using Spanish aerospace in a war that isn't covered by the Nato alliance whatsoever is to sow division and hurt the alliance as much as Trump threatening to leave. Rutte is an idiot.

Ah yes, the *appeasement* strategy that so famously works. Just ask Neville Chamberlain.

That doesn't really work though, if someone gets invaded and Trump say no we are in deep shit. Much better to know about it ahead of time and start to prepare for reality. I do think that is what is happening. Europe is realizing NATO is gone, and are trying to fill the gaps of US weapons before it becomes obvious to everyone.

>he kind of has to to make sure US doesn't get out of NATO Why is that again? It's not as if the US would help their allies in any way, if these get attacked. For the US NATO is a one way street. The only likely aggressor against European countries right now would be Russia. And while it would be a painful war, the EU would win a war against Russia.

The US can't easily leave NATO, they need 2/3 support in the Senate. Congress passed that in 2024, sponsored by the current Secretary of State.

He's selling out Europe in the process

Will it, though? Seriously, is NATO actually needed when Europe has/could have their own nuclear umbrella and Russia is incapable of ever making an advance into Europe again? Who does Europe need NATO to defend *against* and would the US even answer the call under Trump? 

This is the Listnook copy and paste comment about it, but Congress made sure the president cant do that so there's no point in losing dignity.

There’s no grand strategy here, just career self-preservation on his part. His political capital is largely spent. He's just trying to save his job by buttering up POTUS.