Y’know,
Ask before messing with the whole world’s economy
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leisurechef2 days ago
+371
Maybe don’t Tariff people you want help from & don’t insult everyone on social media.
371
jacobstx2 days ago
+225
Don't threaten your allies with military action.
225
angelus142 days ago
+131
And maybe don't discredit them for all the help they gave last time if you want them to help this time.
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abolish_karma2 days ago
+42
Even if he did EVERYTHING ELSE by the book and followed best practices.
Don't go to war without comitting allies to your cause, especially if you're going to lose.
Nobody wants to pick a fight they can't win.
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rkcth1 day ago
+10
This is a lot of good advice, and he’d probably have gotten advice like this if he hired qualified advisors rather than people who can kiss his ass the most, but let’s be honest, he cares much more about the ass kissing.
10
Nights_Harvest2 days ago
+36
Even if all of those did not happen, other nato members still should not step in.
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Khaldara1 day ago
+22
“Defensive pact not applicable to random acts of unprovoked violence. Conservatives shocked.
Tariffing themselves also not the key to ushering in a golden age of prosperity… something that every other leader on the planet and anyone who even half paid attention in basic economics was already extremely aware of. Conservatives EQUALLY shocked.”
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desmonea2 days ago
+9
Trump is not dumb, he is just evil. He wants to undermine NATO. All of the above was carefully orchestrated, so NATO allies move away from USA and in turn, Trump has arguments for reinforcing is cause against NATO membership. Convince me otherwise.
9
JeanClaude-Randamme2 days ago
+27
Nah, he is dumb AND evil.
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desmonea1 day ago
+7
I think he is causing chaos on purpose. People handwave it as him just being dumb and laugh at him, but miss the more important issue - Trump is using every tweet as a way to manipulate markets, people, and to advance his own goals, which mostly involve lining his and his friend's pockets and securing his position of power. It's easy to dismiss him as being senile / crazy / dumb - and while all of the above may be partially true as well, his communication strategy is very deliberate, and to me it appears most people are blind to it.
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JeanClaude-Randamme1 day ago
+5
Oh there is no doubt he is a corrupt piece of shit.
He has a lot of experience in ripping people off, and he’s good at it. However none of his strategies are particularly clever, well thought out or long term.
He can only think in the short term, and what is good for him, and how to bully people.
He 100% didn’t plan for Iran to happen like this, he was dumb and thought he could just bully them int submission and it would be easy and consequence free like Venezuela.
That backfired because it was dumb. So now he’s just doubling down on the only strategy he knows, to bully and threaten. It’s not working. But he does his bullying and then profits from it because of his market/insider trading experience.
He’s still stupid though.
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Witty_Formal73051 day ago
+5
No Trump is definitely dumb, it's generally always been known he's actually a moron but he's a malignant narcissist so he surrounds himself with yes men so when he lies out his ass about shit he knows nothing about (which is basically every time he opens his mouth) he says it with the confidence of someone with a doctorate on the subject because he's literally incapable of feeling shame or regret & the people he surrounds himself with know that if they don't agree & spout whatever he says then they fall out of favour and get the boot.
I think he's indifferent to NATO in its true form, what he actually wants is NATO to increase their spending and pump it all into American defence contractors and be his goon squad when he steps in shit. That's why he's extra pissed right now, he's bullied them into spending more but they're not buying as many U.S weapons which means billions of dollars not flowing to the U.S and those companies, who pour millions into lobbying every year to make sure that U.S govt policy does everything it can to use its global soft power to push other countries to buy American military hardware.
Top that all off with the fact that his dementia is pretty advanced which means that he's losing his filter in his brain and is not only even more impulsive than he was before, but hes also making decisions based 99% on emotion, which with Trump is either happy or angry there's no in between with him, that's why his daily briefing on Iran is some clips of the U.S blowing shit up every day, his handlers are feeding him only the information that they've curated to keep him under control and stop him from totally flying off the handle.
5
rabidstoat1 day ago
+2
A lot of NATO countries let the US use their bases for ***defensive*** operations. NATO is a defense treaty, after all.
Did Trump even say 'thank you'?
2
HousingThrowAway10921 day ago
+4
Also recognize that NATO is a defensive alliance. There is no reason whatsoever that NATO would ever have considered getting involved in Trump and Israel’s illegal war
4
Rinzwind1 day ago
+2
Yes but NATO often does help with a defensive stance if is does get a heads up. Like secure the borders. -or- stock up on oil and other stuff. That last one is what kills our economy and could be avoided.
What I think ...
Trumps knows he wont last long and informs his friends before an action so they can get or sell corresponding stock so they can make millions and millions. Same with Russia: it made more in oil sales that ever before. Russia also got a heads up.
2
Wander212 days ago
+3
Basically have common sense
3
BurnerAcct67292 days ago
+3
Don’t threaten your allies with invasion.
3
abolish_karma2 days ago
+35
The whole idea that NATO should be interested in "helping" shows a MASSIVE AND FUNDAMENTAL LACK OF UNDERSTANDING of just about everything about this mess.
Trump doesnt understand NATO.
Trump doesnt understand diplomacy.
Trump doesnt understand Iran or the Middle East.
Trump seems to have zero concept of grand strategy.
He's just in it for the highlight reel and to stay out of prison, a couple weeks more.
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leisurechef2 days ago
+3
The Iran war will reality check him eventually
3
AnalTinnitus2 days ago
+15
Trump's unwavering narcissism and arrogance assume that people will rally to him no matter how badly he has treated them. In fact, in his mind, he has not done them any wrong at all. This is why you will never hear him suggest ANY regret for his actions or words regarding others. Sadly, Trump has very infantile worldview that will never mature to anything beyond what we currently see.
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WaffleHouseGladiator2 days ago
+66
Trump is the kind of person who would go through your fridge, eat what he wants, throw everything else on the floor, and demand you clean it up while he demeans you for not having foods that were more to his liking.
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BeeFrier2 days ago
+35
Also, NATO is a DEFENCE-alliance, not an attack-alliance.
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Too-Much-Plastic2 days ago
+2
It's also geographically limited, by the insistence of the USA at the time. So basically it's outside of NATO's operational scope and outside of its area of operations.
Having said that, had there been some mutual respect and some form of a plan then a few nations may even have chipped in, Iran hasn't made many friends in Europe. But since America has been contemptible in its communication with its supposed allies and since this war was a profoundly stupid idea that America just yolo'd its way into before anyone could stop it no one, strangely, feels much like sticking their dicks in the hornet's nest on their behalf.
2
The_Krambambulist2 days ago
+4
But it's not uncommon for NATO countries to assist in certain operations.
Why they would help you if you just do whatever you want and actually jeopardize safety, is a whole other question.
4
Local-Echo-56132 days ago
+5
Some countries that are also NATO countries have cooperated with the US on military operations (along with non-NATO countries) but that has nothing to do with NATO.
Afghanistan was the only time Article 5 was invoked and that was because the US had been attacked in the NATO area on 9/11.
5
urgerestraint2 days ago
+4
Trump isn’t big on asking for consent, whether it be Iran, 13 year olds, or otherwise.
4
The_Frostweaver2 days ago
+222
Trump demanded europe accept one sided tariffs.
Trump made a big deal of cutting Ukraine off financially and saying european countries in NATO needes to pull their weight and take care of their own backyard.
Then he tries to bully NATO into giving him greenland.
Then he starts a war with Iran without consulting NATO and is surprised when they don't want to help with his war.
NATO is a defensive alliance, if you want allies to help with an aggressive war of choice you can't just invoke NATO after the fact.
You need to treat your allies well and consult with them before you start the war if you want their help.
And of course instead of engaging in any kind of introspection about the choices Trump has made which lead to both the conflict in Iran and caused allies not to be there for him he just lashes out and makes more threats.
3 more years of this is going to feel like 3 eternities.
222
Tzarkir2 days ago
+32
...3 years? Jesus Christ, I didn't even think about how we're only barely in the second year...
32
Buff19652 days ago
+12
It won't last 3 years. The Republicans have lost every off year election but two. Even in the two they won their margins were cut in half. Trump has the worst rating of any President going back to the 1970s. He is showing obvious signs of dementia and that can only get worse. One way or another he will be moved out of there.
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Alcogel2 days ago
+40
You say that, but clearly he and his group are not planning to let go of power.
Jan 6 was what happened when Trump was told to transfer power to the new guy, when he was surrounded by a relatively normal administration that wanted to do things by the books.
This time he will have his team of loyalist sycophants who have fired everyone who might side with the constitution over MAGA, who will help him fight the transfer of power.
I hope the American people vote the republicans out in November, but I have no hope that what comes after that will be smooth or easy.
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Electrical-Lab-95932 days ago
+3
it will then at least force some kind of change, America ends a democracy or all of his traitors end in jail and the GOP has to change.
hopefully the second one.
3
nediamnori2 days ago
+2
And? Are you under any impression that Vance will be better?
2
Lower_Cantaloupe19702 days ago
+3
He also made vague threats to take over Canada, a NATO member
3
RevolutionaryGold3252 days ago
+8
It is not about logic. It is Trumps feelings that matter. Cant reason with that.
8
Ryokan762 days ago
+5
You forgot he threatened to annex Canada, a NATO ally.
5
BOPSurfcasting2 days ago
+441
Abuse the f*** out of them then expect them to help in a big messy war that has no exit plan.
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whatproblems2 days ago
+106
also didn’t ask anyone beforehand so they could prepare for when the strait inevitably got shut and bases in the area whacked.
bully punches someone in the face surprised when everyone hes insulting for the last year aren’t eager to jump in
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jimmybirch2 days ago
+29
*Abuse the f*** out of the dead soldiers who died fighting in US wars.
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DlphLndgrn2 days ago
+7
Worth pointing out that we would obviously be helping, IF THEY WERE ATTACKED.
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BOPSurfcasting2 days ago
+3
Yes of course, article 5.
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the_mooseman1 day ago
+2
Would have*
Past tense.
2
Feligris2 days ago
+8
Which might have also ended up being a completely useless war with negative consequences to the US (and possibly Israel too) due to how poorly they prepared for it thanks to their erroneous overconfidence, so it's not surprising that nobody wanted to voluntarily join it once it was going on.
8
Kaisernick272 days ago
+3
I mean this is the same man who's abused kids on r*** island so why wouldn't he?
3
_stinkys2 days ago
+2
It didn’t even have an *entrance* plan.
2
clamorous_owle2 days ago
+70
I suspect that the Europeans were even more disappointed that Trump didn't bother to consult with them before starting a new war.
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lightspuzzle2 days ago
+5
he probably didnt consult with his administration either.
5
bijelo1232 days ago
+154
Mark Rutte can't stop appeasing orange pedo, can he?
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Drastic-Rap-Tactics2 days ago
+41
He seems to be doing what he can with what he has, much like Ukraine’s President had to change his tune after that blow out at the White House. Mind you, that comparison is a bit apples to oranges (pun?) due to the fact that Ukraine is life or death vs NATO needing the US.
Rutte said as much some time ago. So he’s got to ride this out as best he can and keep the Alliance intact, because it’s looking more and more that widespread conflict is coming beyond what is already taking place.
I do hope I’m wrong.
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_LB2 days ago
+26
If Russia invades some NATO country tomorrow, Trump will do squat out of pettiness. Europe needs a reliable NATO without the US.
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GlitteringLock97912 days ago
+27
And we want to be on the side of orange Hitler? Great.
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Filthyquak2 days ago
+7
He's up his ass because that's the only way not to make him throw a tantrum. I'm sure he hates being like that but he also understands it's necessary
7
MrBanana4212 days ago
+19
Being up his ass just means Trump views him as a disposible tool to toss around.
Appeasing him does not work, he does not have the mental faculties or concentration to remember the last time you sucked up. Next time Trump will say/do something outrageous again and it will not be stopped. He will expect you to bend or make a silly nickname for you.
Only clear signs of defiance, like Greenlandk, like chinese tarrifs will make him pause and try to squirm out of it.
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Mr_Knutsen2 days ago
+10
The tantrum will come any way. Integrity doesn’t. The only thing a bully understands is strength.
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Razier2 days ago
+2
It's hard to separate Trump from the US at the moment but burning bridges now will have lasting consequences for when he's gone.
2
wintersdark2 days ago
+8
Trump *is* the US. 1/3 voted for him. 1/3 couldn't be bothered to vote against. Even now his party works to prevent government functioning (keeping Congress from voting on anything) to support him.
And so very many of those very (R) congess members and senators *will be re-elected*.
Trump *is* America. They wanted this, and still want this. They can fix it, or own it. It's their fault and their responsibility.
F*** the lot of them till they clean their own f****** house. They claim they have guns to prevent this, right?
8
Mangozilleh2 days ago
+2
It’s obvious that European defence is heavily reliant on the US, what do you want him to do exactly?
2
_yetifeet2 days ago
+41
Trump has:
* Threatened to invade Canada ✅
* Threatened to invade Greenland ✅
* Sent diplomats who insulted their hosts✅
* Repeatedly insulted allies✅
* Enacted financial warfare against allies through illogical tariffs ✅
* Ignored military advice✅
* Didn't bother to alert allies about what he was going to do✅
* Didn't bother to tell congress✅
* Initiated armed conflict against a country who had been preparing for invasion✅
* Insulted military capability of allies✅
* Repeatedly claimed to have won the war that's very clearly still being fought✅
* Insulted allies for not caving to his demands ✅✅
* Has his name all over the ~~Epstein~~ **Trump** list ✅✅
* Got Americans killed and an unknown number wounded as a distraction from said list ✅
* Severely destroyed what was left of America's reputation ✅
With 'friends' like Trumps America, who needs enemies.
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LindeRKV2 days ago
+8
Dismantling NATO - work in progress
8
Rinzwind1 day ago
+2
\- insult the pope.
2
GlobuleNamed2 days ago
+63
What allies?
America only has tariffed countries now, not allied countries.
Edit: Unless you count Russia, but they are with Iran...
63
Exact_Patience_97672 days ago
+24
It takes a special kind of stupidity to bully others and then ask them for help when you've bitten off more than you can chew.
24
TriXter692 days ago
+49
Who gives a f*** how Trump feels
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H3lw3rd2 days ago
+5
Unfortunately, the western world does as he was voted president of the US. And that position means he has major impact on our economies and therefore our lives.
5
Inevitable-Weird-3872 days ago
+18
In what way does attacking Iran constitute DEFENSE for the US? Trump so dumb it hurts
18
Admirable-Gur-95432 days ago
+22
You plunge your allies into a sudden economic crisis which we couldn’t plan for because you didn’t consult us and then demand our help dealing with a mess that only exists because you reneged on the existing deal because the president who signed it teased you at a White House correspondents dinner. Please don’t text this number again.
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EgotisticalTL2 days ago
+6
Erm... How does the NATO chief not know that NATO is only for defense, and not wars of aggression?
6
Lorward1852 days ago
+24
Win a war and the whole world wins with you. Lose a war and you lose all on your own.
Trump is pissed, he started an international war and expected NATO to bail him out. And because they didn't, he had to capitulate to all of Irans demands. And now Israel has screwed the pooch by continuing its attacks on Lebanon, which means he surrendered without telling his allies and will probably get pulled back into the war that he's already lost.
Thr more he tries to explain how he actually won, the more weak and pathetic he seems. That might work with your MAGA base but the rest of the world knows that he tucked his tail between his legs and ran away the moment it got too hard for him. A weak and pathetic president.
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justfortheese2 days ago
+7
I think the thought of the usa needing nato never even crossed his mind. Then he realized it and started with his usual gibberish.
7
Lorward1852 days ago
+6
Yeah he forgot to send out the invitations and then got upset when no one came. He was just looking for someone else to blame his monumental f*** up on. This one's all you Donny.
6
AzureFides2 days ago
+7
He really is just a spoiled brat, isn't he? He doesn't even understand a basic social courtesy like he should ASK his "allies" first before he does something that will need their helps??
I still can't understand how Americans voted for this guy. Do most of them really lack common sense like him??
7
nediamnori2 days ago
+7
You daft cretin, NATO is not Trump's personal army.
7
Concentrateman2 days ago
+18
Fafo. Canadian here. When you attack your allies economically and in some cases threaten their sovereignty there are consequences. Get used to it.
18
Virtual-Squirrel-7252 days ago
+9
NATO needs to play the long game. Who cares what Trump does with NATO, he would never honor it anyway.
Maybe, just maybe there will be a time in future where it is rekindled and at least NATO hasn't been drawn into offensive wars by a Mad Pedo King.
Think about it, if NATO had responded, they would be getting to the strait about now taking fire from Iran. Trump wasn't/isn't willing to put US forces in the strait, because he knows its a suicide mission. He just thought he could bully someone else into taking that fire.
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Adavanter_MKI2 days ago
+3
Because you don't just throw around wars... simply because you *can.*
The U.S is straight in the wrong on Iran and Venezuela.
NATO never had any responsibility to join wars of choice. Seriously... this shouldn't have to be explained to anyone. It's just one giant evil f*** up by the current regime doing a bang up job of ruining the U.S.
The only thing more painful than how blatantly stupid they are... is their supporters still somehow finding ways to pretend this is somehow a good thing. Like holyshit... this is grade school levels of governing. How lost are you people? Do soda cans present you with a challenge? FFS.
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dr_stevious2 days ago
+4
Does Trump and his administration even understand what NATO is, and how it works?
The only time NATO's Article 5 has ever been invoked was for 9/11. Quite a number of nations assisted the US in Afghanistan. A lot of lives were lost. Did the US even say *thank you*?
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GoingAllTheJay1 day ago
+5
What allies? He treatened our sovereignty and labeled us a threat.
The fact that I need to specify further which country I mean, is pretty telling.
5
mattfryy1151 day ago
+4
NATO is a defensive collective, they will not come to aide when a member is the aggressor in a conflict.
USA bombed Iran. NATO has no obligation to get involved.
4
HARRYSH0ULDERS2 days ago
+4
yes and we're ALL choked up for not having joined in on his war crimes.
4
PussyPusLicker2 days ago
+4
Get fucked. The US no longer serves European and democratic interests. GTFO.
4
undeadbydawn2 days ago
+4
NATO chief should probably read the treaty he's responsible for
4
Umbra_Draconis2 days ago
+5
World disappointed by NATO chief lack of a backbone
5
PeB4YouGo2 days ago
+4
Well the world now has him to thank for the 2 million dollar toll per oil tanker Iran is charging for the Straight Of Hormuz passage. I feel like every time he opens his mouth to complain, he should be told, “quiet piggy!”
4
dimwalker2 days ago
+3
Not your personal army, should have sent ICE.
3
Prudent-Attitude50882 days ago
+5
We're clearly disappointed the US President has shit-for-brains.
5
owlbear4lyfe2 days ago
+4
Wars are won in the planning before they are fought.
The lack of planning here should be a warning of how this will go.
4
DragonfruitPossible61 day ago
+4
Maybe he should have consulted them first.
4
Dekokkies1 day ago
+5
We need a new Nato chief.
5
MechaD135791 day ago
+4
Oh Boo fkn’ Hoo!
4
Dot_Hot99Dog2 days ago
+7
Good. He needs to know that NATO is not coming to save HIS ass. Cry me an ocean.
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AleXstheDark2 days ago
+3
>Trump ‘clearly disappointed’
Good
>by US allies
Who?
3
Kirarifluff2 days ago
+3
NATO is a DEFENSIVE union.
DEFENSIVE.
US was NOT attacked
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WatRedditHathWrought2 days ago
+3
The question to pose to those who clamor for NATO to act is “Why has Trump not officially invoked the NATO treaty?”. And no, social media posts are not official diplomatic channels.
3
ProfetF92 days ago
+3
This man is a complete and utter moron
Join you in what? we allready did in afganistan after 9.11, helped you rob the place blind and make 'Murica the biggest army in the world just to turn on all his allies, side with Putin and the likes of Orban, betray your allies and do idiotic things for your masters, Israel.
How about, for once you and your country can stfu?
3
BingoLuck2 days ago
+3
Imagine how disappointed the US allies are with Trump
3
1rexas12 days ago
+3
"Allies" doing a lot of heavy lifting in this headline.
3
morbid_loki2 days ago
+3
And I'm clearly disappointed with the u.s.a.
3
Neversetinstone2 days ago
+3
F*** Rutte.
3
seweso2 days ago
+3
NATO is for defense not offense.
The USA should be kicked out of NATO asap. And the maga regime should be labeled as terrorists. That would be sane
3
Chilluminatti2 days ago
+3
We have also been dissapointed by the US not finishkng the Russian agression.
Suck it up and f*** off.
3
IndependenceLife27091 day ago
+3
I would think Trump spends a lot of his life being disappointed. Reality is likely a chore for him.
3
datdamndeuce1 day ago
+3
Treats them like shit. Expects them to join war. Delusional.
3
Ok-Milk-88532 days ago
+7
I didn't think it was possible but I'm disappointed in him.
I thought his bmi would have done it's job already, but he's even shit at that.
7
LeCastle23062 days ago
+2
He’s definitely on a timeline, but don’t underestimate the impact of quality healthcare, especially to the extent it can be preventative or intervened in any way (no case is TOO late until it is)
2
TROUT19862 days ago
+5
Simple concept, don’t shit all over every single ally (except one) and then start a war (at the instruction of that one)
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LovelyDayHere2 days ago
+2
Before that, don't consistently act in the interests of your allies' declared enemy who has fighting a war in Ukraine and threatening your allies constantly. That just makes you look like a traitor to your allies.
2
TROUT19861 day ago
+2
Exactly, simple really.
2
4RealzReddit2 days ago
+6
Well Trump is clearly disappointed with NATO, that is accurate. He should have followed with NATO is a defensive organization; had the US been attacked like it was on 9/11 we would be there, as we were when America was attacked. You following Israel into war is not the intent of NATO.
Get fucked - signed NATO.
Trump leverages other people being diplomatic and wanting to save face to his advantage, Iran gives no fucks about that.
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n0xsean2 days ago
+5
NATO is literally designed to be a defensive organisation. Wtf was bro expecting? Them to just band together and be the aggressor in a war that had literally no business being fought?
5
Silver-Spy2 days ago
+7
Its a **Defensive** alliance
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mrshakeshaft2 days ago
+5
Hardly anybody outside of America cares what Donald Trump thinks about anything. We are literally all just waiting for him to die or for you guys to f****** do something about him instead of sitting on your f****** hands
5
great_bearded_nerd2 days ago
+3
Americans wont do shit, they talk the big talk and buy up all the guns but at the end of the day they are all a bunch of f****** stupid idiots.
3
Sweet-Competition-152 days ago
+2
a “very frank, very open” discussion between “two good friends”. *(Quote)*
Dementia donnie *doesn't have friends!* A transactional association at best; utter contempt & vile hatred at worst. This guy's pandering to donnie is sickening to behold...there shan't be any improvement in the world until everyone accepts that donnie is insane.
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kridenow2 days ago
+2
Sill unable to get over it, uh ? Since how many weeks are we listening to those ramblings ?
2
Sayello2urmother4me2 days ago
+2
It’s a defensive pact not an offensive pact
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arkhamknight852 days ago
+2
Throws tarrifs on trade partners and alienates longtime allies. Talks about invading a NATO member in Greenland. Invaded a country without going through congress and says everyone should help when they started the war.
How the f*** is this a nato issue?
Trump is Putins puppet and is deliberately doing this because Putin must have some serious shit on him. He is an absolute fuckwit.
2
lightspuzzle2 days ago
+2
good.get out of nato [already.you](http://already.you) already side with russia.stop pretending you align with europe.
2
AcguyDance2 days ago
+2
Learn how to make friends 101
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yup_can_confirm2 days ago
+2
Allies?
2
King_Fisher991 day ago
+2
Rutte is an embarrassment to Nato and the Dutch. What a complete ass kisser
2
dzenib1 day ago
+2
Trump is not a leader
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Bytownbelle1 day ago
+2
Do we really need Rutte to tell us that. He should be telling
TrUmp how NATO actually works. Rutte has been useless since day 1 with trump.
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TheLuminary1 day ago
+2
Is it weird that Trump seems to have the same confusion about NATOs purpose as Putin does?
It's a defensive alliance, not a military alliance. They don't join together to invade other countries.
But that is exactly what Putin has accused NATO of doing/being for years now.
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Sniperizer2 days ago
+1
Trump followed Israel into attacking Iran and expect NATO to help clean up the mess. What a toddler.
1
Extinction-Events2 days ago
+2
So, with a defensive pact, you’re not really supposed to punch someone and then call for help when they punch back.
2
brickyardjimmy2 days ago
+2
What did Trump expect? He rushed in to attack without first building a coalition. Also...he just spent the last year saying he was going to annex Greenland from one of his NATO partners.
2
GreatGojira2 days ago
+2
As an American Im glad our NATO allies told Trump to go kick rocks. Our allies should never help while Trump continuously insults them and starts idiotic conflicts.
2
chillin_n_grillin2 days ago
+2
He tried to start WW III and was ‘clearly disappointed’ that he wasn't able to.
2
Zardoz_Wearing_Pants2 days ago
+2
if it had been a WAR, as in passed by Congress etc. NATO may well have helped.... as it was our pathetic excuse for a pm allowed the bases in UK to be used anyway, and it was a charade that we 'didn't help'. how the feck are bombers 'defensive' when there's no ground attack??.
2
Most-Artichoke61842 days ago
+2
For fucks sake, it is a strictly defensive alliance.
2
BekindBebetter601 day ago
+2
Acts like an a****** but is surprised when he is treated as an a******.
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Xasther1 day ago
+2
Please remove this guy from his position as the Chief of NATO. He doesn't understand what NATO is for AND he's biased towards Trump.
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SirTainLee2 days ago
+1
Well, when you think you're god, it's hard to come back down to Earth.
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ConsciousExtent41622 days ago
+1
What were we supposed to do? Invade Iran while we let the US plunder their oil reserves? And what then? Another round of riots in Europe? Defund Ukraine to spend money on a useless invasion while Israel conquers the middle east?
What kind of mental gymnastics must we do to make ik make sense?
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flexecute112352 days ago
+1
Wait so he’s upset the world didn’t explicitly kick off WWIII to cover up his pedophilia?
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Affectionate_Fall572 days ago
+1
And we are 'clearly disappointed' by US starting this war, I guess it makes 2
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aleqqqs2 days ago
+1
Should have invoked article 5¾: Mutual assistance clause in case an ally attacks someone.
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ProblemOk98102 days ago
+1
I'm gonna punch my friend in the face then asked his help to build a fence.
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Henry-8th2 days ago
+1
The biggest disappointment is of course the Orange Lunatic. If he had one more brain cell he’d be a plant.
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MaxPullup2 days ago
+1
Well allies are probably not that satisfied with trump either
1
TimeImpressive66482 days ago
+1
Oh I get it. Each of these degree having, suit and tie wearing critters are just illiterate. Interesting.!
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Buff19652 days ago
+1
I hope the NATO Chief explained that NATO is a defensive alliance, not an offensive alliance, and certainly not a personality cult.
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GroundbreakingMud1352 days ago
+1
If nato joined Iran then Putin would have an argument “ you’ve been saying NATO is defensive alliance when getting closer to our borders “
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ghostbannomore2 days ago
+1
Ah so he must have formally asked them to get involved then.
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Agitated-Zebra43342 days ago
+1
Perhaps Rutte could clarify that NATO’s purpose is defence in the North Atlantic region (hense the name). Did he?
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4862skrrt26842 days ago
+1
It's only been like half a year since Vance gave us shit for helping them in Afghanistan. Now you suddenly want help, without being attacked, without consulting us?
We lost soldiers for you. Families were destroyed.
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ikesbutt2 days ago
+1
Awwwww....... his wittle feelings are hurt
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jugalator2 days ago
+1
Allies typically join for defenses, not for offensives...
Speaking of allies, it wasn't long since EU countries had to scramble fighters because it was seriously believed he might attack Greenland. His idea of an ally is a country to abuse when he sees fit.
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Remarkable_Custard2 days ago
+1
Political leaders with experience in political leadership won’t agree to follow a billionaire playboy with Bo life experience into an international war.
Cool.
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NeilDeCrash2 days ago
+1
US allies "clearly disappointed" by US refusal to help Europe defend itself against what NATO is made for.
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of_no_real_opinion2 days ago
+1
Because nato is a defensive alliance -head meet desk-
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DarthShiv2 days ago
+1
Who backs a clear war of aggression by a serial pedophile psychopath who instigated trade wars for no reason against his own allies?
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+1
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Dimplestrabe2 days ago
+1
Aww. Bubbles.
The hulking great pedophile is sad nobody likes him.
1
BrainNSFW2 days ago
+1
"Bully complains his victims won't take the blame for him when things go wrong."
Gee, I wonder why?
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DumpedToast1 day ago
+1
It’s pointless to counter his arguments with facts because he doesn’t care, nor does his following. They know why nato didn’t act, they are trying to justify leaving the alliance. It’s just theatrics.
1
stokpaut31 day ago
+1
Rutte, wat loop je nou weer te kutte
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JODmeisterUK1 day ago
+1
US allies and NATO in this context are two different things. Trump has no comprehension of this.
1
scarab10011 day ago
+1
All the other reasons people have listed from defensive to illegal war to war crimes and zero consultation before starting.
Also, NATO is only for North Atlantic - a clause insisted upon by... America.
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Big_Option_55751 day ago
+1
But Trump also said he asked Nato for Greenland and he is upset they wouldn't give it to him..... so too bad, so sad, piss off.
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Sislar1 day ago
+1
I ignored you, started a war why didn’t you join
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BaconISgoodSOGOOD1 day ago
+1
*Clearly*
🙄
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rayjaymor851 day ago
+1
Well, lets see.
Trump threw tarrifs at us, and then threatened to invade a friendly country because they wouldn't move across willingly.
Why. The. F***. Would we help him?
1
SumoHeadbutt1 day ago
+1
The Straight was open before Don and Bibi broke it
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lexcyn1 day ago
+1
NATO is a \*defensive\* alliance and has nothing to do with an idiot starting a war for no reason. Sorry.
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truttatrotta1 day ago
+1
Of course he’s clearly disappointed. He’s a moron.
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Prize_Proof53321 day ago
+1
Why would a defensive alliance join a war of choice?
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Objective-Clue50871 day ago
+1
Trump starts a war out of nowhere to help Israel and Russia. Now, he wants to get a piece of the profit in charging countries for ships to pass through the straight. He expects NATO countries to be okay with this?
It reminds me of being at a gathering and wondering when someone will finally tell the same unruly child who ruins every gathering - no more!
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