Wait, what? did I miss a news, the US attempted to suspend NATO members?
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PmMeCuteDogsThanks_1 day ago
+3026
Spain didn't want to support USA's war on Iran. Therefore, Spain is a bad guy.
3026
Mirar1 day ago
+1220
This feels like freedom fries again. It didn't work the previous Ira* wars either.
1220
VagrantShadow1 day ago
+845
You can bet trump now wants to think of himself as the King of NATO.
The dude is off his rocker and has been of a long ass time, but it's getting worse. He's at the point that he feels like if you don't abide by what he says, he will tariff your country to death or try to remove you from any form of connection to the United States.
845
Blimflart1 day ago
+335
Luckily he's unable to unilaterally sanction an individual EU state despite his demented bluster.
Plus I am sure that now the US mask is completely off there are many efforts being expended in the EU to reduce and ultimately remove dependence on the US. May that happen as soon as possible so they can remain isolated and weaker.
335
Z3B01 day ago
+243
The mouvement started a year ago, with the tariffs. Many European companies rebuilt their logistic chains to avoid US suppliers and the unstable taxes put on them. It's a painful process for many of them, but once it's completed, the US loses a lot of the control they had on the world economy.
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Blimflart1 day ago
+188
Right. In other good news I recently read that the setup of EU-based financial payment systems is going quicker than estimated. Once there is a working alternative to Visa/MasterCard that they can't use to apply sanctions then it's time to end $ pricing on oil.
That will bring about a lot of pain very quickly
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Z3B01 day ago
+153
The fall of the petro dollar is the moment the US economy sinks worse than ever.
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canspop1 day ago
+57
I feel sorry for all the decent US citizens. I know FA about international finance, but I'd imagine that once the world starts moving away from the US dollar, the economy is going to struggle.
With the size of the national debt now, and the amount trump is bound to add to it with all his illegal & corrupt schemes, it's going to be a major headache if and when it stops being the world's preferred currency, and the interest rates on the debt keep rising.
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dfighter31 day ago
+30
I believe he's already upped the national debt by....4-6 trillion? and he hasn't even been in a year
30
fretkat23 hr ago
+9
Decent US citizens are a very small minority, otherwise you would have seen mass protests and revolution movements all over the country.
I feel bad for countries that will have an steep increase in deaths due to fuel shortages, without having any say in what the US is doing. I feel bad for the people in Cuba that are denied access to healthcare and food by the US as we speak. I feel bad for the citizens in Iran being bombed by the US.
I don't feel bad for anyone in the US. The majority of the votes were for Trump, this is what the US democratically wanted as their government. The rest of the world has no say in this, but suffers more.
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Jerzylo1 day ago
+11
People don't realize how bad it will be. US keeps abusing the infinite money glitch of just printing more dollars and letting the rest of the world deal with their inflation. Without the petro dollar that cumbles
11
Canuck-In-TO1 day ago
+61
This cannot happen fast enough.
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claimTheVictory1 day ago
+81
A sliver lining of the war, is how much it is accelerating green energy adoption.
Who the f*** wants their economic well-being determined by whoever controls one narrow stretch of water?
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Pleasant_Narwhal_3501 day ago
+15
Sometimes, nothing happens for decades, then suddenly a great power implodes over the course of a few months. The Ancien Regime, Imperial Russia, the USSR, and Habsburg Austria survived multiple crises and disasters for decades to centuries, but when collapse finally happened, it went very quickly.
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Zombatico1 day ago
+20
Either that or everyone selling their US bonds or switching their reserve currency away from USD. 3 different ways it can happen.
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Sayakai1 day ago
+7
The three are linked. If any one of them happens, the other two happen as well. People keep US reserve currency because it's the petrodollar, and US bonds because the petrodollar system makes the dollar highly reliable, which makes keeping the petrodollar a good idea for anyone because everyone likes having a rock solid currency foundation for the world market.
Pull out one of them and the whole thing comes crumbling down.
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djmacbest1 day ago
+12
Even without the petrodollar, this is going to be hugely impactful, politically and economically. That's many billions that will stop going through US services. I'm just confused why this is not brought up more often, really.
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Fulmersbelly1 day ago
+50
I've noticed even here in Korea, where there is a lot of imported american goods, there's been a conspicuous uptick in things like canadian meats and produce.
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zoinks101 day ago
+34
I have American friends. But I woke up the other day and thought the country - as run today - is an enemy.
I’m British and I’d like Sir Keir (or the King) to tell that Orange paedo to go f*** himself. Perhaps in a public situation where the news can capture it.
Just f*** off and stay at home America. You’re drunk.
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mCopps23 hr ago
+6
Keep in mind he’s the King of Canada as well. He should definitely tell Trump to die in a fire.
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PiccoloAwkward4651 day ago
+10
And it works like that in many business relationships. If I have a problem with a vendor and set up with a new vendor and things go well.... Why would I look into switching back? Happens all the time. That's what is predicted for Canada with their province-wide purchasing of liquor. Now consumers are buying non-American brands, who knows how many will revert to USA made liquor if/when this shitshow ever ends. They might've found their new favorite from elsewhere.
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Moligimbo1 day ago
+21
Trump is driving the greatest self-castration of a great power in history ever. MAGA, lol.
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wraithpriest1 day ago
+20
If he isn't a Russian asset, he's sure not done anything differently than one would.
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FiveHeadedSnake1 day ago
+25
As an American, I am incredibly disappointed that I agree with this statement.
Europe needs to build its own strength from within, continue to develop the EU as a democratic unit and eschew the most tenuous ties to the bullying US.
If the US cannot support its own democracy, it must be that the rest of the democratic world responds accordingly to protect themselves.
Hopefully this trend will reverse in the coming years, and partnership will be back on the table, but that would take a lot of changes on the interior of the US political landscape.
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Blimflart1 day ago
+18
I appreciate your comment and it's sad that many sane Americans will be impacted by all of this. However I was recently in Europe and was corrected by other travellers regarding the political views of many US citizens holidaying in the area.
My assumption was that they would reflect more progressive views but was told this was wrong - the majority of US tourists have money and are much more likely to support Trump and his fascist shit because 'it benefits then economically'
When I saw brave souls sporting a stars and stripes patch on their rucksack my instinct is now to avoid them completely - I don't want to speak to them unfortunately.
Given Trump's naked and overt hatred of the EU and its institutions I think Europe should implement similar checks on US travellers' social media history and is being done by US border control. Any suggestion of support for Trump and his policies should result in firm refusal to admit them into Schengen.
We don't need our want them
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FiveHeadedSnake1 day ago
+18
It's sad, but I think this is the right response. Mark Carney stated out loud at the WEF last year that the world was going through a rupture - and he was right.
No one should engage in long term planning with the united states until DJT is dead and in the dirt - along with the political philosophy that came with him.
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tacticaldodo1 day ago
+6
US can expel NATO from NATO
if King Conman decide so
/s
Edit: smooth flow, right?
6
GovernmentBig27491 day ago
+17
Well, NORT ATLANTIC TRUMP ORGANISATION,
a lot of people are saying that that is what is called.
(no one is saying that)
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literated1 day ago
+19
Oh great, now you thought it into existence.
19
lennydsat621 day ago
+24
Do you recall him stating that he didn’t like the way a call went with Switzerland iirc and he changed the tariff rate thereafter…..
He’ the dumbest person God ever put guts into…and a pedo.
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VagrantShadow1 day ago
+8
He is like a idiot pedophile Lex Luthor that became president on this earth that believes tariffs are Kryptonite to other countries. Yet he doesn't realize that the more he holds the tariffs and uses them like a force of Kryptonite, he is giving both himself and the United States Kryptonite cancer.
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lennydsat621 day ago
+5
Let’s hope God is listening
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Gummyrabbit1 day ago
+11
He’s the king of TACO…
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PrairiePopsicle1 day ago
+5
He literally just said he speaks for the UK more than prince harry.
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Pornstar_Frodo1 day ago
+48
Ah yes … I remember the anti-French days. The very country that helped the US gain their independence from the English and gave them the very statue that they use to symbolise their freedom.
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Koala_eiO1 day ago
+56
Freedom fries were for domestic amusement and distraction. Nobody gave a f*** in France. It went roughly like this:
\- "Ahah! We un-Frenched your fries!"
\- "What kind of gotcha is that? Are you 5 years old?"
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tanaephis774001 day ago
+19
The French bashing was real though. As a French living abroad and occasionally in contact with the local American community for all kinds of reasons, I had a few very unpleasant encounters during that period. Some people were absolutely taking that seriously, and basically attacking me as if I had personally betrayed them. And 20 years later, the French bashing online is still going strong among the conservative crowd.
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mCopps23 hr ago
+11
Like calling the French “surrender monkeys” due to ww2 in spite of having the most successful military of the last 1000 years.
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gmkeros23 hr ago
+5
the French-bashing was there before though. The Freedom fries shit was just where it reached the mainstream
5
Vathar1 day ago
+15
I'm French, don't even remember hearing from it at the time.
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fjelskaug1 day ago
+7
There's even a Wikipedia article about it https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_fries
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Vathar1 day ago
+7
I've learned about it ... years later. I'm not saying it didn't happen, just that I don't remember hearing about it in France at the time and that, as far as I remember, nobody gave a shit back there.
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Mirar1 day ago
+5
We laughed at in Sweden too. It's such a 5yo sandbox reaction.
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YourFavoriteKraut1 day ago
+16
- "Wait, really? Are you serious? Zey are Belgian anyway, glad you corrected it."
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illuminaughty19731 day ago
+9
Or Afghanistan, or Vietnam nam or Korea.....
Oh wait did you mean the renaming the fries or waging war on the other side of the planet?
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FeelingPixely1 day ago
+5
Now it's freedom fuel, pay more to support the war against ourselves!
5
Fragonarsh1 day ago
+5
I still remember all the fuckery with the french during the 2nd irak war and i'm eager to see the moment USA will rename churros "freedom pastry" and empty bottles of spanish wines in the gutter.
5
warickewoke1 day ago
+19
Do we have an updated list of USA national threats?
19
octarino1 day ago
+72
Let's see:
- Canada: [threatened with tariffs and repeated “51st state” rhetoric](https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/trump-51st-state-again-1.7647268).
- Mexico: [Mexico should indeed be concerned’: Trump’s threats rattle Mexican officials, businesses](https://www.politico.com/news/2026/01/06/after-venezuela-trumps-cartel-threats-put-mexico-on-edge-00711703)
- Panama: [U.S., Panama offer mixed messages on security, sovereignty of Panama Canal](https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2025/05/20/united-states-panama-offer-mixed-messages-security-sovereignty-panama-canal/)
- Geeenland: [Trump threatens to take Greenland ‘the hard way’, citing Arctic strategy](https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/1/9/greenland-should-take-the-lead-in-talks-with-us-foreign-minister-says)
- Venezuela: [Why is Trump threatening Venezuela? What to know after tanker seized.](https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2025/12/11/why-trump-is-threatening-venezuela-tanker/87718581007/)
- Colombia: [In Colombia, anger and disbelief at Trump threats of US strikes](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/in-colombia-anger-and-disbelief-at-trump-threats-of-us-strikes/ar-AA1REVV7)
- Iran: ... do I need to link something here?
- Syria: [US launches retaliatory strikes in Syria after Trump threat](https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/us-launches-retaliatory-strikes-in-syria-after-trump-threat/ar-AA1SHjDm)
- Iraq: [Trump Threatens Iraq Over Leadership Change: What to Know](https://time.com/7358384/trump-al-maliki-iraq-iran-oil/)
- Nigeria: [Trump threatens to deploy the military 'guns-a-blazing' to Nigeria](https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/01/trump-us-military-nigeria-00632716)
- Somalia: [Why Trump is on the warpath in Somalia](https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cyv4270gljpo)
- Yemen: [Trump has ordered airstrikes against rebels in Yemen. Here’s why](https://apnews.com/article/trump-yemen-houthis-airstrikes-iran-explainer-06e5676098543ebab53a0cdeefd83731)
- Cuba: [Trump has threatened ‘taking Cuba.’ What’s at stake for the US economically, politically?](https://www.politifact.com/article/2026/mar/25/Cuba-US-Trump-take-oil-blockade/)
And now Spain. Did I miss any?
---
Edit:
- Brazil: [White House threatens Brazil with 'military might' amid coup plot reckoning](https://www.rawstory.com/brazil-trump/)
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warickewoke1 day ago
+22
You can add Brazil there too, with our [secret chinese military base](https://cbn.globo.com/mundo/noticia/2026/02/27/relatorio-do-congresso-dos-eua-acusa-brasil-de-ter-base-militar-chinesa-secreta.ghtml), which you can find their address on Google.
22
nolok1 day ago
+19
But removed sanctions on Russia and red carpet for Putin in Alaska that he calls "Russian land", everything is good there, totally normal
19
BigBananaBerries23 hr ago
+4
There's been loads of talk of Russia getting Alaska back over there, saying it was a mistake to sell it. Granted, it's mostly by rabid propagandists but their rhetoric is usually directed by the Kremlin.
4
TEL-CFC_lad1 day ago
+12
The Falkland Islands. He threatened to support Argentina occupying them, against the wishes of the islanders.
12
TheMoniker1 day ago
+3
Regarding Canada, Trump also directly stated that he would use "economic force" to annex the country.
3
ThunderChaser20 hr ago
+4
You can add the United Kingdom to this list. The United States is contemplating backing Argentina in their claim to the Falklands, https://www.thetimes.com/us/american-politics/article/falklands-islands-trump-nato-starmer-0q7gr87qq, in clear violation of the Falkland Islanders rights under international law.
4
shittyaltpornaccount1 day ago
+342
Not as of yet. The Pentagon had a leak (guess Hesgeth was drunk texting journalists again) stating the desire to remove Spain from Nato due to their lack of suport for Iran. It is especially funny given the same leaked memo also was looking at recognizing Argentina's claim over the Falklands because the UK isn't supporting the war ENOUGH. This administration is a childish clown show and it would be funny if it wasn't destroying the country and killing countless people.
342
Potates421 day ago
+49
Ok so no way he leaves NATO then, it was all bluster as usual. He wouldn't get rid of something in which he thinks he'll be able to kick around other nations within.
49
NeonGKayak1 day ago
+22
He cant leave NATO, only congress can
22
civildisobedient23 hr ago
+10
Yeah, he would have done it already if he could. The fact that he can't is why we're _hearing_ so much bloviating bullshit about it. The more powerless he is the more pathetic his threats get.
10
Zefyris1 day ago
+12
There's not that many things that is world class about the current US administration, but the pettiness certainly is...
12
ShortNefariousness21 day ago
+200
And he wants to take the Falkland Islands from the UK.
200
piginapokezzap1 day ago
+190
Argentina are a member of his private club the Board of Peace. No doubt Argentina has been whispering in his ear during their cocktail parties.
190
TtotheC811 day ago
+121
The Falklands also have vast untapped oil reserves offshore, so I wouldn't be surprised if the U.S starts backing Argentina in return for open rights on that sweet, sweet crude.
We *really* need to start treating them like the playground bullies that they are.
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Stargazer18841 day ago
+35
It's almost like Iran always saw the USA for what it was.
35
RaggaDruida1 day ago
+75
Like can recognise like.
Far-right theocracy that is the bully of the region and whose corrupt (mostly religious) ideology causes problems in other countries recognises far-right theocracy that is the bully of the region and whose corrupt (mostly religious) ideology causes problems in other countries.
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VagrantShadow1 day ago
+31
I bet after that he wants to make Cuba is own personal island resort country next.
31
teflon_soap1 day ago
+29
He wants Epstein Island II, bigger and better than before 🤮
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schwanzweissfoto1 day ago
+11
Just spitballing here, but what about … *Epstein Iceland*?
11
AtomicBLB1 day ago
+49
Its a preemptive response to a leaked internal report saying the US was going to suggest it. NATO doesn't even have a suspension like protocol to begin with so it's as stupid as it sounds.
It's a pretty short document you'd think more people would have a clear understanding of how it works. But this administration can't speak let alone read above an elementary school level so maybe it is too difficult for them to understand that.
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TtotheC811 day ago
+12
Well, you know how petty Trump is due to his malignant narcissism? Well...
12
Aeseld1 day ago
+6
I would say they discussed the possibility and the email leaked.
There isn't actually a mechanism to suspend a NATO member though.
6
TsuDhoNimh21 day ago
+9
Trump and Kegsbreath want to kick Spain out of the clubhouse for telling them "no".
9
PepperMill_NA1 day ago
+5
I wish there was adult around to give Donny a time out.
He's hyperventilating.
5
lylesback21 day ago
+725
Next up, Trump threatens to kick China out of BRICS
725
CryptoThroway82051 day ago
+139
The EU has been moving towards electronics payments too through Wero. Trump got mad about the Brazilian payment system Pix. It means you don't need to pay fees to visa and Mastercard. Even the UK started building out a digital payment system with the pound.
Basically BRICS could end up being the rest of the planet if countries start standardizing ways to do currency conversion and international payments without touching USD. Wepay and pix already have some automatic currency conversion.
139
nolok1 day ago
+81
It's not really the fees, it's the control. It's the ability to disable access and thus sanction/punish someone. The EU had that in sight for over a decade, but the european from the ICC who got sanctionned and saw all their payment methods / online accounts / ... disabled is what pushed for it to be actually happening.
81
hyperforms99881 day ago
+48
With great power comes great responsibility. The second that responsibility was ditched, folks are no longer interested in the great power continuing to have that great power. I don't think the average US citizen understands just how much is being pissed away.
48
nolok1 day ago
+34
Given how you still see "the next president/democrat will have to ..." uhhh no guys. Canada is considering you a threat, Danemark is thinking about a post US-led NATO and Australia told you to f*** off before you even asked them to help. That's how bad things are. At best you can stop the breakup, but things are not going back to how they were.
34
RedditTrespasser1 day ago
+15
At this point the best case scenario is Americans will have to be content with losing superpower status, and our government will have to relearn how to play ball with a greater geopolitical world that no longer relies on them or sees them as de facto leader. When the dust settles the sweetheart deals they were used to won’t be there anymore.
But if things continue the way they are going now things will be much worse, we’ll be an isolated pariah state and that will eventually have far-reaching consequences that will make the lives of every American considerably worse.
Welp, guess that’s one way to learn you get what you vote for. Sucks that people like me voted for specifically the opposite.
15
NvidiaFuckboy1 day ago
+9
And those people who voted for it will smile with their mouth full of turds cuz "liberal tears"
9
SpiroG1 day ago
+7
Unfortunately hindsight is always 20/20, as they say.
Should've had our own (EU) alternatives to all the garbage US software and processors in 2010 at the latest.
It was fine while capitalism worked like capitalism and it was all predictable greed, now we got some whackjob with an opinion that changes every time he breathes telling US-based companies what to do and who to f*** over (yea yea he isn't the only one, sadly).
7
Uebelkraehe1 day ago
+8
Don't forget about his super rich supporters who want to destroy the EU as they are unwilling to accept any limits to their power any more.
8
nolok1 day ago
+3
In France we have our own and it's still doing something like 75% of in store transaction.
3
Ivanow22 hr ago
+4
> It's not really the fees, it's the control. It's the ability to disable access and thus sanction/punish someone.
Sanctioning that judge who signed Netanyahu arrest warrant in Hague was a huge wake-up call. Dude's life got absolutely fucked, as he got instantly cut off from cards, email, phone and banking.
4
Ok-Friendship16351 day ago
+16
Don't know why my brain thought you wrote Canada for a second.
16
lylesback21 day ago
+12
That is a real possibility during his 3am truth social rants
12
_SpaceLord_1 day ago
+8
It’s not like Trump has any clue what the “C” stands for.
8
True-Industry-40571 day ago
+3
Nor the S, lol. I'm surprised he didn't say anything about kicking Spain out of BRICS.
3
Ziazan1 day ago
+6
Suspend Canada from the EU right now or else.
6
Darius_Rubinx1 day ago
+445
I see he still hasn't figured out what NATO is.
Imagine, all that money, all that access, and you know less than the average 18 year old.
445
nostromo991 day ago
+94
Hey - he just invented a new way of percentage calculation, which no mathematician has thought of before! If THAT isn't a genius, what is??
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dragon-fence1 day ago
+12
For his next trick, he’ll invent a new way of multiplying numbers so that 1*1=2.
12
197gpmol1 day ago
+5
Our next Secretary of Education, Terrence Howard
5
cybah1 day ago
+48
* five year old
48
rhesusMonkeyBoy1 day ago
+23
No matter what you compare him to …
Horseshit, for example, works great as compost.
23
Perkelton1 day ago
+4
With some luck, his level of compostability will be thoroughly tested in the near future.
4
correcthorsestapler1 day ago
+9
[“When I look at myself in the first grade and I look at myself now, I’m basically the same. The temperament is not that different."](https://theweek.com/speedreads/575962/donald-trump-tells-biographer-hes-same-now-first-grade)
9
O_PLUTO_O1 day ago
+6
He shits his pants more than a five year old
6
ImpulseAfterthought1 day ago
+9
He knows. He doesn't care.
9
Brilliant_Version3441 day ago
+975
Pathetic the trump administration is throwing a hissy fit because nato allies who they have insulted didn’t want to help pathetic
975
WingerRules1 day ago
+324
I literally just watch a press briefing with Hegseth and they're saying this is mostly Europe's war, not the US, so they should be fighting it. Like wtf?!
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Brilliant_Version3441 day ago
+61
Yeah i watched it aswell and i agree with you
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solarview1 day ago
+37
Perhaps a suitable response could be a parade through every major city in Europe in which everyone suggests to the US to just f*** right off in various languages?
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euph_221 day ago
+26
If it's not in American they won't understand what's going on.
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northbayy1 day ago
+12
Just draw it in crayon for us
12
Dicky__Anders1 day ago
+103
Israel and the USA vs Iran is Europe's war? I don't even know what questions to ask in order to try and understand his logic there.
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metengrinwi1 day ago
+52
I think they’re saying now that the Strait of Hormuz has been fucked up (by trump), Europe is one of the ones who will suffer most because they are dependent on imported oil.
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IAMA_Plumber-AMA1 day ago
+30
"Nice economy you have there, it'd be a shame if anything were to happen to it..."
Remember, Trump was deep in the mob in the 80s and 90s.
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metengrinwi1 day ago
+13
Everything’s an extortion racket with this guy. He creates zero value, just extracts it from others.
13
Ohdake1 day ago
+27
Which ironically is not even true. [https://www.iea.org/about/oil-security-and-emergency-response/strait-of-hormuz](https://www.iea.org/about/oil-security-and-emergency-response/strait-of-hormuz)
Exports from Hormuz (in millions of barrel/d - apparently)
|Target|Crude Oil|Oil Products|
|:-|:-|:-|
|Other Asia|6.2|2.1|
|China|4.6|0.8|
|India|2.1|0.7|
|Europe|0.6|0.5|
|Americas|0.5|0.2|
Natural gas - Asia > 90 %, Europe around 10%.
In other words it is Asia that will suffer the worst. China, India, Indonesia, Japan, Korea...
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Array_6261 day ago
+11
Its everyone. Oil is a commodity. When the oil to Asia from Hormuz gets cut, where do you think they get their oil instead? They buy from other sources, sources that currently supply Europe and North America but will divert if Asia offers a higher price.
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Ohdake1 day ago
+5
Yes, that is exactly true. I just tried to underline the fact that Europe is not the principal consumer of the oil or gas shipped through the straits of Hormuz.
5
Inuyaki1 day ago
+5
In that case the sentence "Europe suffers most" wrong as well, if you argue that everyone suffers equally.
5
Unlucky-Candidate1981 day ago
+19
Man’s probably too drunk to think of coherent, sorta realistic sounding excuses this time
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euph_221 day ago
+4
While claiming they already won the war and don't need any help.
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GalakFyarr1 day ago
+4
The logic is that Europe will be affected the most, so they should fight more to avoid it.
Do not ask how this situation started. Ever. Asking questions is anti-American.
4
Christopherfromtheuk1 day ago
+75
They thow a hissy fit about everything. They [cancelled $11m funding for a Catholic charity because the Pope said war is bad.](https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2026/04/16/trump-pulls-funding-for-catholic-charity-that-helps-migrant-children-amid-clash-with-pope/)
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dragon-fence1 day ago
+44
Well the Pope should stay in his lane and stop talking about theology. Obviously it’s the Vice President’s job to know God and tell us all what He wants. What would the Pope know about it?🤦♂️
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euph_221 day ago
+23
This was immediately after he flew to Hungary to speak at a campaign rally for Victor Orban railing about how terrible foreign election interference is.
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danirijeka1 day ago
+3
Idk about that, he should go and support a lot of his ilk since whatever he touches seems to wither and die
3
Old_Ladies1 day ago
+8
When The Boys is not fiction but a parody.
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euph_221 day ago
+3
Sean Hannity said he left the catholic church because the Pope said Donald Trump's war was bad.
Nevermind that he left in 2019 because he got divorced.
3
Dodomando1 day ago
+30
Also reports here in the UK that the US is threatening to review it's support of UK's sovereignty on the Falkland islands because it didn't support it's Iran war...
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MrTerribleArtist1 day ago
+14
Fortunately they probably don't actually know where the Falkland islands are, and will end up trying to invade Hawaii or something
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Mr_ToDo1 day ago
+8
>Last month Trump said he had always considered Nato to be a "one-way street". "We will protect them, but they will do nothing for us," he wrote
Um. Err. Well. Isn't that the reason Nato exists? To be a shared defence alliance? I don't doubt that if the US was attacked that they'd come to their aid(well. maybe not now. With as many enemies that they're making I don't doubt they'd be the instigator). But stepping in on a war that the US themselves put themselves in to? Why?
Shit. I imagine that if NATO was good with stepping into other groups fights they would have taken a far more active role in Ukraine
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SometimesMoody1 day ago
+8
We already came to your aid when 9/11 happened. So far the US has been the only Nato country to need help and we answered the call.
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dragon-fence1 day ago
+16
Also, very importantly, NATO doesn’t compel members nations to join in on optional wars, so they have every right to refuse.
But yeah, Trump goes around threatening NATO members, then impulsively starts a bullshit war, then asks NATO for help, then tells NATO he doesn’t need or want their help. Now he’s throwing a hissy fit because they won’t join in on the war that they have no reason to, and he’s already told them not to help.
What a f****** idiot.
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Takis121 day ago
+530
The sooner everyone realizes that US is no longer an ally or even a trusted partner, the better. Even if I feel sorry for the millions of American citizens who did not choose or endorse the path US is currently on, the rest of the free world cannot trust this country with their current corrupted government. Return to trust will take many years if ever and if I am honest, I unfortunately don’t believe US political scene will ever change.
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TemporarySun3141 day ago
+359
\> Return to trust will take years
More like decades.
After biden was elected, the world was willing to go back to normalcy quite quickly, as the US could convince them that trump was just a once in a lifetime mistake...
But after americans elected him again, it has been shown that trump is actually the new normalcy in the US. And the world wont be so stupid to trust the US again in the forseeable future. And it will probably be never as it was before.
When Europe and the world has decoupled from the US, there is no need to return back to the dependency on the US...
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FinndBors1 day ago
+108
Not to mention trump's second term is considerably worse than his first because his whole cabinet is insane and unqualified.
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looeeyeah1 day ago
+60
They noticed that no one got in trouble the first time, so why not push it further?
Clearly the American public won't do anything about it.
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TallFutureLawyer1 day ago
+26
They also got rid of the people who used to rein them in a bit.
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dragon-fence1 day ago
+28
I like to point out that this is how predators, like social/sexual predators, work. They find the boundary of what’s acceptable, what people will let them get away with, and then they put a toe over the line and see what happens. If nobody does anything much about the violation, they push further. If someone calls them out and pushes back, they retreat for a brief time and then try again.
The best response is to stomp on the toe. Send the message that not only will transgressions not be tolerated, but they’ll be met with immediate retaliation that will inflict pain. There needs to be a cost for the transgression or they’ll just keep repeating until they wear you down.
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Huntguy1 day ago
+136
Generations maybe? I’m mid 30’s Canadian guy and I don’t see myself trusting the American people like before in my lifetime… I can only imagine the younger generations growing up only knowing the hostility and inaptitude of the American system will likely feel the same way.
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Z3B01 day ago
+68
Until they throw away their old and obsolete constitution, and start from scratch to make a working democracy, no one can be certain that the next president won't go back on any and all treaties signed by the last administration.
The US are in free fall. It's taking times, because big empires always takes years when falling, but 2024 was the last chance to stop it. They chose to not save their country.
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SYLOH1 day ago
+31
If not a total rewrite than at least a series of amendments to bring their 18th century version of Democracy into the modern era.
Like seriously, we've known first past the post voting has been a disaster for about a hundred years now, yet they still do it.
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Muslim_Wookie1 day ago
+16
> Until they throw away their old and obsolete constitution, and start from scratch to make a working democracy
1,000,000% this.
They treat their Consitution like a holy text instead of the working document it should be.
They really think that the people that wrote it were so dumb that those same people would have supported citizens having the equivalent of naval cannon filled with scattershot in their own home.
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PiccoloAwkward4651 day ago
+4
And for me it's always been the idea of the Senate. Like the idea that I could merge 49 states into one. And then split North Dakota for example into 100 different states. Each state gets 2 Senators. Does that make sense?
And people say "oh but the House balances it out". They have different powers and roles, no it doesn't. It's already been abused, the Dakotas were admitted as 2 states for purely political reasons.
But as you said Americans seem to think the Constitution is literally perfect and refuse to consider that maybe other countries have some good ideas with their systems.
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putin_my_ass1 day ago
+22
All it took was a loudmouth narcissist with a social media campaign for them to turn on us. F*** 'em.
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sinocarD441 day ago
+10
And foreign adversaries who used social media warfare to exploit our preexisting social issues.
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dragon-fence1 day ago
+8
> More like decades.
I think probably several decades. We might find a way back into being trustworthy in a hundred years or so, but even if we have a good couple of presidents in a row, the world is going to have to wait and see if we’ve really learned our lesson, or if we’ll fall back into stupidity with the following President.
So it won’t be 4 years or 8 years or 20 years. We’re going to need to have like 10 presidents in a row who are reasonably decent before anyone has any reason to trust us again. And 10 presidents could be 80 years.
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probability_of_meme1 day ago
+11
It's like, Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice...uhm..won't be fooled again
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Surfer-Junkie1 day ago
+34
The same billionaires running the US are also involved with other governments as well. Guys like Karp and Thiel spread their financial influence abroad.
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East_Leadership4691 day ago
+4
This is the exact point that European countries should understand. In the event of an attack on a European NATO member by Russia (or any other country), the US will not defend us. And there is nothing we can do to change that. Rutte or Starmer can suck up to Trump all they want, and Trump may temporarily be placated by this. But this won’t change the fact that he personally has nothing to gain by protecting Europe, and that he only cares about his personal gain.
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RisingRapture1 day ago
+28
"Trump does not understand alliances."
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Infidel81 day ago
+52
Do you understand how f****** exhausting it is to wake up every morning and see all this childish bullshit coming from the United States?
Who knew a country could have a personality disorder?
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NetflixVodka1 day ago
+84
Maybe someone remind Trump that NATO doesn’t actually stand for Needlessly Attacking Territories Overseas
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VeniVidiViciAgain1 day ago
+117
Someone should tell the tramp that NATO is not his feifdom.
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Additional_Quiet26001 day ago
+50
He thinks the world is his feifdom and we have to pay for his idiocy. No good comes from this, for anyone.
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GlastoKhole1 day ago
+13
He’s learning, that’s why he’s getting pissed off, he genuinely believed that if he said jump everyone would ask how high and instead everyone’s said no. He’s not used to hearing that word so he’s internally breaking down about how much of a looser he looks. It’s why he won’t drop it he has to “win” but he’s never won at anything in his life. His money was his father’s hand me down, his wife was bought and paid for, his business’ of which the one that isn’t bankrupt is bankrolled by his pilfering of the treasury. He’s just an all round big looser who nobody would piss on if he was on fire but for the name trump that he inherited from daddy. Without that he’d probably have been homeless and on the brown stuff early and long dead by now. There’s literally no place in the world for someone as stupid as he is without his daddys name. He was bottom of his class, doesn’t reveal his grades and has pretty much always read at a 4th grade level. Prove me wrong that he’d be able to hold a middle management job down. Even with life on super duper easy mode he has been incapable of getting educated
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Additional_Quiet26001 day ago
+5
I think he would be homeless without the silver spoon blanket.
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GlastoKhole1 day ago
+6
With all that money and power he inherited he’s atleast 3x as intelligent as he would be without it and he’s already thick as pig shit and can barely string a coherent sentence together. If you made him 3x dumber he’d probably be licking windows on the bus. I don’t think he can drive, he definitely wouldn’t have finished high school and there’s not a college in the country that would take him if it wasn’t paid off to do so. I genuinely think he’d be homeless, like I truly believe that. I know people a decent margin more intelligent than him who can’t hold a stable job down.
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Adrian9151 day ago
+13
He wouldn't listen, he only listens to Putin. How Americans could have fucked up this badly is beyond me. I might understand voting him the first time. Heavily disagree with it, but understand how it happened. But a second time around?! Doesn't take even medium level iq to guess how that would go.
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CheesecakeHorror34101 day ago
+19
The American President has moved into Mad King territory. Time for twenty five.
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Ok_Poetry_26961 day ago
+113
They really believed nato was all about the us giving orders to others.
To this day I don't think trump truly understands what a defensive alliance is.
Everyday I wonder how he managed to win the election. It's unreal
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1401_autocoder1 day ago
+33
> I don't think trump truly understands what a defensive alliance is.
He is purely transactional - expects to get something back for everything he does for someone. No concept of alliances, or soft power, or influence. Also no understanding at all of empathy. He can't even fake empathy, unlike some psychopaths.
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SYLOH1 day ago
+39
Trump isn't transactional in the slightest.
Transaction implies that you pay something, and get something back.
Trump takes stuff and then stiffs you for the bill.
He exploitative, not transactional.
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schwanzweissfoto1 day ago
+18
Yeah, purely transactional assholes *can be relied upon*.
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20past4am1 day ago
+4
China is exceptional in being a transactional a****** and it works really well for them
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Dragoniel1 day ago
+46
> They really believed nato was all about the us giving orders to others.
Amusingly, that is Chinese (and I would assume Russian) talking points to their own citizens. I talk to Chinese a lot and though I do my best to avoid politics, when we talk about NATO, their view is that US is running the show, trying to take over the world, and everyone else are basically vassals. I wonder where did he got it from...
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Unlucky-Candidate1981 day ago
+5
He assumes they bark orders and have absolute power because that’s his reality. These far right conservatives seem to do it rather frequently. That is, they think their reality is the same as everyone else’s, so they assume everyone does bad things like they do.
They literally can’t comprehend opposing view points and think people just run through the motions to look good or to present in whichever way to others. Hence why mr wannabe mob boss thinks other countries are run like an amateur mafia. Also hence why cons are most likely to point fingers at people and call them say pedos, while most pedos seem to be right-wing. Or the million other examples or projection they do, because their brains lack a proper capacity for abstract thought. I do it, so others MUST too, and if they don’t, they’re lying to save face.
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VersusYYC1 day ago
+16
The US administration is senile.
We’re leaving NATO, when have they ever come to our aide?
We want to invade NATO countries.
We want to kick out NATO countries.
We want NATO to help Iran.
NATO is useless we don’t need them in Iran.
NATO never helped in Iran, we’re leaving NATO.
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SpatulaWholesale1 day ago
+12
Trump is going to get his sharpie out and redefine where the "North Atlantic" ends...
Ha ha.. what am I even saying, I'm certain he thinks the NA in NATO stands for "North American" so he thinks he has absolute authority.
The man is a drooling vegetable.
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gudbote1 day ago
+13
Imagine being an educated, experienced combat commander in the US armed forces and having to serve under the demented pedo and a neonazi alcoholic. Watching daily as they insult allies and close strategic options.
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mountearl1 day ago
+33
Time for the UK and EU to kick US bases off all our lands.
The US will never come to our aid again, so why are we hosting them? To support their wars of agression?
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ChristmasDucky1 day ago
+10
As a dane. I choose Spain!
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toma911 day ago
+9
America needs to pipe the f*** down for a bit and think about what they’ve done
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PoopsMcGroots1 day ago
+8
Read [this](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foundations_of_Geopolitics) [wikipedia].
The underlying strategy is to break the Atlantic alliance of The West by promoting anti-Americanism around the world. There is no greater agent of that aim than Trump.
And as for NATO. there is only ONE nation that has ever invoked Article 5 when it was attacked (it is a defensive pact) and that’s the US after 9/11, and everyone stepped forward to help.
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smartfon1 day ago
+9
Trump wants to suspend NATO-member Spain because it refused to help non-member Israel commit war crimes?
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steve_ample1 day ago
+30
Not YOUR personal club.
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TemporarySun3141 day ago
+15
In spite the US will found a new "alliance of peace". Togehter with russia and belarus...
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Tunggall1 day ago
+8
The Board of Piss.
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user09872341 day ago
+15
Do they not understand the massive hit to the US defense industry companies that will happen? No one will want US technology (nor Chinese technology nor Russian nor Indian). R&D people will lose jobs. They will move to Europe to work at their defense companies.
Canada will have some hard choices ahead as a result too. We share the continent. Do we work with our allies in NATO or get threatened by the US military? Does the US start taking over in the Arctic, provoking Canada and NATO?
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EngineNo51 day ago
+14
Serve him right, the Nato general secretary for calling the orange guy "daddy ".
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AnomalyNexus1 day ago
+12
Can we contract a childrens book maker to create us a NATO 101 explainer
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beer4mepls1 day ago
+6
And... he wants to take the Falkland Islands away from the UK because they didn't help in Iran as punishment.... would someone please take his globe away from him.
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drfsupercenter1 day ago
+7
> The US has two military bases in Spain, Naval Station Rota and Morón Air Base
What an unfortunate name, though I'm sure the jokes about a "moron air base" write themselves
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Shad0wCutter1 day ago
+7
Hahaha what a f****** cry baby
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JustAnotherHyrum23 hr ago
+7
From the article:
>Last month Trump said he had always considered the 32-member Nato defence alliance to be a "one-way street". "We will protect them, but they will do nothing for us," he wrote.
Article 5, the defense provision that treats an attack on any NATO nation as an attack against all of NATO, has only been invoked a single time in NATO's history. By America, for America's defense.
America invoked Article 5 after 9/11, and all of our allies came to our defense and assisted in Middle-Eastern operations for years, at the cost of said allies' soldiers and citizens. To protect America.
They protect us, but our current inept excuse of a Presidential Administration only wants more, more, more. He desperately needs outside help to escape a trap that he set for himself by not having any actual war plans beyond "a whole civilization will die tonight". NATO isn't any nation's personal dog to call when you've bitten off more than you can chew.
Our allies are already doing more than their part, Trump, and have no responsibility to fight a preemptive American war on Iran.
In closing, a fun little joke.
Q: What's the difference between Vietnam and Iran?
A: Trump had a plan to get out of Vietnam.
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Moontoya1 day ago
+22
NATO
Not Acknowledging Trumps orders
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MarcusP21 day ago
+14
Never Assisting Trumps Offensives
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ImpulseAfterthought1 day ago
+23
Not A Trump Organization
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fjf10851 day ago
+5
The only way a country could be kicked out is effectively by signing a new treaty with all the other members and that’s not going to happen.
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TrickshotCandy1 day ago
+6
We want to leave NATO, but first want to kick someone/everyone else out.
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Leather-Map-81381 day ago
+6
The United States can’t even suspend the US membership without a 2/3 vote of Congress and a year’s notice. We planned for an idiot like Trump to come along.
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SatchSaysPlay1 day ago
+6
Fking idiots, they're taking stupid to whole new levels, not surprising but it's wild to witness.
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Golemfrost1 day ago
+5
I feel sorry for the next President/Administration that has to spend their few years repairing all the shit this f***** ruined.
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DJC_Kowalski1 day ago
+5
Donald Trump doesn't understand the concept of Rule of Law. His followers must not understand that concept either.
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ragnaroksunset1 day ago
+5
Will no one rid us of this turbulent real estate mogul?
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Fun_Professional23751 day ago
+5
NATO is a defensive alliance. Not an offensive one. Simple as that.
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ZaphodG1 day ago
+33
I didn’t know any NATO countries were attacked by Iran. I recall Israel and the United States made an unprovoked attack on Iran.
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TheDrAlbrhect1 day ago
+8
The United States has effectively demonstrated just how absurdly fast a democratic nation can fall because of angry voters falling for promises of immediate results from a trained grifter.
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mittenknittin1 day ago
+4
Why's he wanna suspend Spain anyway, isn't he threatening to have the US leave NATO?
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ezekiellake1 day ago
+3
“Hey NATO, Spain can’t sit with us lunch anymore! I’m the king and I make the rules”
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Part_Tricky1 day ago
+4
US is ran by lunatics, unfortunately.
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Upbeat_Parking_77941 day ago
+4
Their concept of allies is a bit strange. They basically want colonies which do whatever they want.
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GreenGoblinNX1 day ago
+3
At this point, I think we're probably closer to the USA being expelled from NATO than any other country being expelled.
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w_benjamin19 hr ago
+3
Trump: WAAHH!! Do what I say! Do what I SAY!! WHY WON'T YOU DO WHAT I SAY???
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