Netanyahu: Israel wants to start peace talks with Lebanon 'as soon as possible'

Indeed, fuel prices are going down tomorrow by quite a margin in my country, but the situation hasn't changed in reality.

we're going to have a depression, while being in major major debt. The US could default.

and with several oil infrastructures bombed to shit, it's not like when they stop bombing, those infrastructures are magically operational again. we'll feel that for a while

Yes! The peace will last long for sure!

Somehow the peace accords with Egypt, Jordan, UAE, Morocco etc hold pretty well

The countries that havent attacked Israel sure would say so.

They seem to get along with the neighbors they have peace treaties with though, no?

Still a welcome statement

It's the equivalent of police officers beating the living shit out of person who is trying to cooperate, while screaming "Stop resisting!

Lebanon was asking for peace talks as soon as it became clear Hezbollah had decided to enter the war. There was a moment when it seemed they had the willingness to disarm Hezbollah.  Lebanon expelled the Iranian ambassador and IRGC officials, but he declined the expuksuins and just stayed. The IRGC also.  Lebanon also officially outlawed Hezbollah's military wing... and for a minute it seemed like there might be arrests. But they didn't end up acting on that either.  Then rockets and bombs started flying and negotiations were over.  Israel and Lebanon peace negotiations are easy. There is no actual contentious issue between them. The problem is that the Lebanese government isn't really sovereign over Lebanon. They can't tell Hezbollah what to do. Can't control their borders or prevent militants from doing what they like.  The two (long-shot) angles on peace are (1) Lebanon somehow transcends sectarianism and gains sovereignty (2) the Lebanese state meditates a peace between israel and Hezbollah.  The first is unlikely. The second makes Hezbollah the sovereign. 

What use would peace talks be with a government that can’t enforce its own sovereignty?

Peace talks with Lebanon are increasingly meaningless since they’ve shown they don’t have the capacity to enforce them with respect to Hezbollah. What good is an agreement between Israel and Lebanon if Hezbollah ignores the terms and launches attacks whenever it wants?

a country with diplomatic entities asking for peace, while militant ones carry out constant missile attacks. kinda hard to negotiate with that

Huh? No. Lebanon asked for France’s help then they reneged on their offer so they asked Israel to help. This is the help they needed with their Iranian terrorist problem that France lied when they said they would help.  

Lebanon was asking for peace talks while hezbollah bombed Israel.  I think that was what you meant.

Quite probably. They need to make peace with Lebanon so the Iran deal can take place. If not I think a lot of countries will be VERY unhappy with Israel and while I don't think Israel cares all that much based on their past actions maybe this time they have realised they have overstepped and countries are actually seriously pissed at them for tanking the world economy for years. No country wants a major recession which could happen. Especially the USA whose economy is propped up by the AI bubble.

Maybe they want to [kill](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israeli_attack_on_Doha) the negotiators.

He achieved that. America has never joined so many pointless wars for any other country.

It’s always felt odd to me that Israel has taken such a violent approach with Lebanon rather than trying to bolster anti-Hezbollah forces from within Lebanon and ally with them to disarm Hezbollah A supermajority of Lebanon wants Hezbollah disarmed yet they’re super entrenched - it seems like a missed opportunity for Israel to not take a more collaborative approach with Lebanese people to get rid of them rather than doing scorched earth shock-and-awe raids of southern Lebanon every couple years then pulling out The cynical part of me assumes it’s because Israel doesn’t actually want a stable Lebanese government

I’m reading this, realizing Trump has expanded the Gaza conflict to cover the entire world

Lebanon were the first to attack Israel

Deserve? Nothing. They did make an agreement to work with Israel and the UN to disarm Hezbollah, but that hasn't yielded any results after 20 years. Hezbollah has funders with deep pockets and lots of guns

Exactly the position Israel is in after having rockets fired at them for years by Hezbollah. Listnook always seems to gloss over that part though for some reason

The irony is that your comment, while aimed at Israel, best describes Hezbollah.

Yeah agree, better endless wars.

Would you not kick out the guy who lives there shooting at neighbors across the street first at least?

Yeah that was kinda what Iran was doing for a bit there at least.

So germany should not have a peace with any country? Same with japan and usa. Peace is between two enemies not friends.

That means we need to prop up the image. So… Cholula or Franks Red Hot? The fent is complementary.

Israel: "we will withdraw our army from Lebanon if you sign a peace treaty with us" Hezbollah: "that's unreal, our goal is to destroy you, so your peace plan must allow us to continue firing rockets at you forever"