Nevada actually has every right to be furious here tbh. vegas recycles almost 100% of their indoor water, while other states are still using massive chunks of the colorado river to grow alfalfa in the literal desert.
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CarbonRod12Mar 29, 2026
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While depleting aquifers without any care for sustainability.
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-preciousroy-Mar 29, 2026
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Feels like it was a bad idea to populate a place with a temperature range between literally freezing and 115F all while it gets 90% of its water from a shared source on it's southernmost tip AND that water relies on yearly snowmelt FROM SOMEWHERE ELSE. All so we can support gambling and gold mining (essentially the only mentionable things produced by Nevada).
But yeah, let's be pissed about farmers farming.
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DeliberatelyDriftingMar 29, 2026
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Your whole little screed applies to farming even more than populating a place. Those farms would NEVER exist without massive amounts of imported water, whether from a river or aquifer. One acre of Alfalfa needs about 45 tons of water (aprox. 11,000 gal.), on average, daily. A family of four uses, on average, about 320 gallons a day (about one ton). Soy, consuming far less than alfalfa, still requires about 10-12 tons per acre per day.
Farming in the desert is far stupider than just living there.
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Valuable-Condition59Mar 29, 2026
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> But yeah, let's be pissed about farmers farming.
Guess who’s farms those are. It’s not salt of the earth, mom and pop operations.
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Chac-McAjawMar 29, 2026
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Even if they *were* ‘mom & pop’ farms, most small farmers in America are millionaires. Land isn’t c****, & farming equipment isn’t either.
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MilsYatsFeebTaeMar 29, 2026
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Don’t forget, it’s also a tax haven for retirees
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SeedfusionMar 29, 2026
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In a nutshell, when the water from the Colorado River was allocated 100 years ago, the agreement had a base level that used higher than average year of rainfall (unknown to them at the time). Everything worked until farming in Arizona and California grew to the point they were taking more than their allocated amount of water in the 90's. But since upper basin states were not using their full allocation, the system still functioned. Allocations based on incorrect data was not an issue. Plenty of water for all.
Fast forward to 2026. States have to renegotiate a new agreement for allocating the water. The reality is that there is not enough water to satisfy everyone's allocation now. Lake Mead Dam provides a huge reservoir that powers Las Vegas. The recent drought years have dropped the water level at the reservoir so low that next year they are predicting that the intake for the power plant will be above the water line. Which will be a problem.
Unfortunately, each of the 9 states involved say that they are already cutting everything they can. But the lower basin states are vastly overdrawing their water allocations, which provide water for all of the US produce industry in California as well as wasteful alfalfa farms in the desert in Arizona that are owned by Saudi Arabia (and provide nothing for the US but happily take c**** water). The upper basin states (WY,CO,UT,NM) do not currently use their full allocation and argue that their farmers still need the ability to use that allocation in the future in an exceptionally dry year. Like 2026.
No state is willing to concede anything and they missed their legal deadline in February to renegotiate the agreement by themselves. So now the federal government gets to decide how to reduce every state's allocation of the Colorado River. There are going to be draconian cuts for farmers and cities in the southwest. It is about to get ugly for everyone involved. States kept kicking the can down the road, thinking someone else will solve the problem. Now it is time to pay the piper. Less water = less farm production which means higher prices for everything.
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RingFew4918Mar 29, 2026
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the regional water wars have officially entered the chat. gonna go ahead and start welding spikes to my car mad max style rn just to be safe lmao.
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Shill4PineappleMar 29, 2026
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I’ll bring the IVs and silver spray paint.
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Ok_Flower7157Mar 29, 2026
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An administration that's already cutting federal funding to blue states now gets to referee a water war between them. That's not a neutral position. That's leverage.
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FlashyPaladinMar 29, 2026
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If we’re going to get serious about water shortages, then we’re going to need to be willing to give up a few obvious, egregious water wasters:
-Grass lawns. FFS.
-Golf Courses. I mean, seriously?
-Alfalfa farming. JFC.
-Swimming Pools. At least the private ones in peoples’ back yards… at least consider swapping to sustainable imported salt water.
I’m gonna be mad as hell if I get told to shower less than once a day while some rich a****** out in the Ridges gets to keep their swimming pool complete with water slide, grass lawn, and veritable water park.
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LoopedIntoThisMar 29, 2026
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When the water treaty was hashed out between the states they made it knowing full well the water rights would not last because Nevada and California used too much water due to population growth and agriculture then. They all signed it knowing they were kicking the can down the road. The road is here and it has been over a hundred years and they still haven’t attempted to reconcile with the fact that they knew there wasn’t enough water THEN.
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neo_sporinMar 29, 2026
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'as long as i kick the can hard enough that we dont get to it til after i die, what is the problem?'
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WillingElderberry301Mar 29, 2026
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it's entirely ridiculous that residential areas are always asked to take the hit while corporate mega-farms in california drain millions of gallons to export thirsty crops overseas. regulate the agricultural water waste first before telling people in nevada to cut back.
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JustLookingForMayhemMar 29, 2026
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I really don't want a part three of the American Water Wars. The Water Wars have claimed enough lives.
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radioactive_sharpeiMar 29, 2026
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And the Water Wars begin....
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GlazedWhisperMar 29, 2026
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nevada fighting over water rights in the middle of a desert is like me fighting over the aux cord when my spotify premium expired. we both need to read the room.
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MF_BREW_Mar 29, 2026
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Yeah imagine their position if they where the first state and some liberal state was last
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mikeorhizzaeMar 29, 2026
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So they have to listen to shitty commercials between showers?
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