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Announcements Apr 6, 2016 at 5:00 PM

New and improved "block user" feature in your inbox.

Posted by KeyserSosa

Listnook is a place where virtually anyone can voice, [ask about](http://www.listnook.com/r/AskListnook) or [change their views on a wide range of topics](http://www.listnook.com/r/changemyview), share [personal, intimate feelings](https://www.listnook.com/r/Avocadosgonewild), or [post cat](https://www.listnook.com/r/CatsStandingUp/) [pictures](http://www.listnook.com/r/316cats). This leads to great communities and deep meaningful discussions. But, sometimes this very openness can lead to less awesome stuff like spam, trolling, and worse, harassment. We work hard to deal with these when they occur publicly. Today, we’re happy to announce that we’ve just released a feature to help you filter them from within your own inbox: user blocking. Believe it or not, we’ve actually had a ["block user" feature](http://i.imgur.com/Tszb0YJ.png) in a basic form for [quite a while](https://github.com/listnook/listnook/commit/4d7a2fa4e0f01f7010e0f7fd0317cb783cda54c1), though over time its utility focused to apply to only private messages. [We’ve recently updated](https://github.com/listnook/listnook/commit/6c9a28e6bd0cebc05e220b6d807b4bf46663474b) its behavior to apply more broadly: you can now block users that reply to you in comment replies as well. Simply click the “Block User” button while viewing the reply in your inbox. From that point on, the profile of the blocked user, along with all their comments, posts, and messages, will then be completely removed from your view. You will no longer be alerted if they message you further. As before, the block is [completely silent to the blocked user](http://i.imgur.com/GUIBD9t.png). Blocks can be viewed or removed on [your preferences page here](https://www.listnook.com/prefs/blocked/). Our changes to user blocking are intended to let you decide what your boundaries are, and to give you the option to *choose* what you want—or don’t want—to be exposed to. [And, of course, you can and should still always *report* harassment to our community team!] These are just our first steps toward improving the experience of using Listnook, and we’re looking forward to announcing many more.
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amici_ursi Apr 6, 2016 +834
How does this affect comments and posts being displayed to moderators? If I block you, can I still see your submissions in the sublistnooks that I moderate? (hopefully yes)
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +1255
Yes. The current list of exemptions are: * Admins (as admins) still see everything (it's our lot in life. *sigh*) * Mods will still see content from blocked users when the content is on a sublistnook they moderate. The idea for mods was that since there's already a way to ban users from sublistnooks if the whole mod team agrees, we didn't want to create a situation where all of the mods independently block the user creating a trolly unmoderated troublemaker running around causing unseen havoc.
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +562
EVERYTHING?! *covers privates* You perv you! ;-0
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CuilRunnings Apr 6, 2016 -163
> we didn't want to create a situation where all of the mods independently block the user creating a trolly unmoderated troublemaker running around causing unseen havoc. Why wouldn't normal voting behavior be able to handle this effectively?
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +281
Well, it *could* compound. Assuming *other* users in the sublistnook are similarly blocking the user, we could end up in a state where there are entire troll threads that dominate but most logged in users don't see. Definitely all hypothetical here, and this won't be the last version of this feature.
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justsoyouunderstand Apr 6, 2016 +73
That sounds crazy. An entire thread system ran by the trolls; the outcasts blocked by and completely invisible to everyone else.
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +149
Yeah I'm not sure if it's crazy or... *awesome*. You know, like a game server full of aimbots.
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pobopny Apr 7, 2016 +12
Taking it to its completely illogical hypothetical extreme: That situation would end up with listnook, on the whole, looking like a chaotic land of nothing but trolls from the outside, but once you're inside, and you start blocking the trolls, you slowly but surely start to see real conversation happening. And people on the inside would be able to distinguish between established listnookors and newbies by how much they interact with the invisible trolls, and could effectively wait until someone has proven themselves before acknowledging them. This would effectively turn listnook into a modern, completely public, yet totally invisible, secret society. Like... Illuminati 2.0 or something.
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75000_Tokkul Apr 6, 2016 +28
Outside of /r/sublistnookcancer, which unsurprisingly you mod, it is pretty well understood that "normal voting behavior" doesn't always downvote off topic posts and rule breaking. "Normal voting behavior" is never an alternative to an actual mod team who can take action. You can see what sublistnooks like you propose end up like by looking at /r/European who claims to be "free speech." [They have such great content there.](https://np.listnook.com/r/AgainstHateSublistnooks/search?q=%2Fr%2FEuropean&restrict_sr=on) >A community will be Quarantined on Listnook when we deem its content to be extremely offensive or upsetting to the average listnookor. The purpose of quarantining a community is to prevent its content from being accidentally viewed by those who do not wish to do so. Still not sure how a Nazi sublistnook routinely calling for violence against non-whites labeled as /r/European so people will accidentally go there doesn't fit that description. Then again they also haven't quarantined the anti-Semitic holocaust denial sublistnook /r/holocaust either.
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Bardfinn Apr 6, 2016 +19
Voting is for *individual statements*, and is *supposed* to be for whether or not the statement is on-topic. Voting is *used* as "I agree" / "I disagree" / "It will entertain me to see this at top of thread" / "It will entertain me to see this at the bottom of thread", instead. In short, normal voting behaviour doesn't filter trolls, and often amplifies them. There are accounts for whom their *history* establishes to people that they don't want to have to downvote them every time, and where voting doesn't solve the problem that this person's existence on listnook revolves around harassing them, personally. So this is the answer for that.
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h-jay Apr 6, 2016 +12
Why have moderators at all, then? (logical conclusion of your train of thought)
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MisterWoodhouse Apr 6, 2016 +73
On the flip side of things, what happens if a user has blocked a moderator and said moderator makes a distinguished reply to the user on the sublistnook which that moderator moderates? Does the distinguish override the block like how it overrides the Disable Inbox Replies flag?
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ImaMoFoThief Apr 6, 2016 +2008
So can I block all the admins and then plead ignorance in case of a ban?
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +261
Let me jut give you access to one of the "block user" buttons. Should be right below this line...
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Arancaytar Apr 6, 2016 +94
Weird question: Why is your admin flair on your other comments but not this one? Can you just toggle it on and off?
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +307
Yup! In fact, since I left and am now back, I also have this nifty hat I can put on when speaking semi-un-officially.
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13steinj Apr 6, 2016 +76
Wait, can you officially speak semi unofficially? (Put on both the alumniatti triangle and the adminerino flame Edit: just in case people think I'm serious, I'm 99% sure that the alumni flag works based on the distinguished attribute, which has no combined setting the last time I checked the code, meaning no.
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +9
So how can I be sure that this is really official? Shrodinger's admin comment
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ImaMoFoThief Apr 6, 2016 +136
Thank ya kindly! Edit: I can't press it... damn you and your april fools last year making me have button ptsd
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brycedriesenga Apr 6, 2016 +34
That's what you get for even trying to press it.
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I_smell_awesome Apr 6, 2016 +835
I got you covered. /r/NoAdmins
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krispykrackers Apr 6, 2016 +1048
[You're never safe.](https://www.listnook.com/r/NoAdmins/comments/4dmqa5/its_almost_too_easy/)
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j0be Apr 6, 2016 +166
[/u/krispykrackers reaction when it's removed](http://i.imgur.com/U9Qwovd.gifv)
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AMasonJar Apr 6, 2016 +153
"Lol this a****** just took the gif from the th- .. wait it's the same guy. Carry on."
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +31
Getting in on the double dipping.
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stengebt Apr 6, 2016 +58
^(*They're everywhere!*)
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Oxus007 Apr 6, 2016 +3670
But if I block users replying to me, how am I going to win all of these online arguments?
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OgGorrilaKing Apr 6, 2016 +721
You win an online argument as soon as you don't get any more replies. So if you block them, you win every time. Easy.
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PeregrineFury Apr 6, 2016 +46
Doesn't that mean they can reply, but you won't see it, so then technically they have the last comment and win? Where everyone else can see it? So the only way to win is to get them to block you!
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elypter Apr 6, 2016 +27
What I don't know won't hurt me. lalalalala
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NeverMyCakeDay Apr 6, 2016 +161
Blocking. Helping people win arguments
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OgGorrilaKing Apr 6, 2016 +123
Blocked for blocking me. TWO CAN PLAY AT THIS GAME.
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Mr_Abe_Froman Apr 6, 2016 +52
Quick! Blocker no blocking! Blocker no blocking!
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +1467
[You can *always* win. You just have to believe.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DGNZnfKYnU)
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +335
If a blocked user replies to me, and others reply to him and a comment chain forms, will I see the rest of the comment chain?
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +531
Currently, no. We're redacting the comment tree at the point where any user on your block list appears. The alternative was to do something more explicit (`comment deleted` or even `you blocked this user`). Honestly, we'll revisit this approach depending on how it ends up being used.
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sportsfan786 Apr 7, 2016 +15
I don't think I'll be using this feature because of this. I got FOMO - fear of missing out
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KeyserSosa Apr 7, 2016 +18
Makes sense, but the point is you get the choice!
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ChronoDeus Apr 6, 2016 +136
>Currently, no. We're redacting the comment tree at the point where any user on your block list appears. The alternative was to do something more explicit (comment deleted or even you blocked this user). This seems rather excessive. Most other forums with an ignore function only hide the posts of ignored users. They do not remove subsequent replies, or conceal that a blocked user has posted. Yes this can lead to people complaining about other people replying to someone they have on their blocked list, but you also don't have innocent conversations blocked simply because they started after a post by some troll. Furthermore, it's useful to know that a post has been removed due to your preferences. Otherwise you wind up with people wondering why large threads are empty, thinking it's a bug, and so on. A "you blocked this user" shouldn't bother anyone, and reduces confusion. It'd be nice to easily see which user it is that you've blocked, but that's less necessary than simply knowing a post was removed.
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paulgt Apr 6, 2016 +41
It's more due to the fact that most forums use an overarching thread/forum structure, while Listnook uses comment chains. Typically comments following a comment are commenting on the comment, not the topic. If someone wants to discuss something meaningful (I.e. not feeding a troll) they can start a new chain/thread. Hopefully that makes sense, I used the word comment quite a bit lol
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ChronoDeus Apr 6, 2016 +9
Oh, I understand what you're talking about, but Listnook having a comment chain structure vs more common forum structures doesn't really change anything. Listnook's comment chains still go off topic from the original comment they were responding to. Sometimes as soon as the response to the first response. So suppressing not only an ignored user's posts, but all responses and comments chains associated with them is still a problem. You're not only squelching the post of a user that is being ignored, but a bunch of other posts by people who aren't otherwise being ignored. So for example, it would not be all that difficult to have a thread which is listed as having 958 comments, only one of the comments being from someone you're ignoring, but you can only see 858 comments because the other 100 comments happened to branch off from that one post and are invisible to you. With maybe 5 of them actual responses to the ignored user, and the rest being tangents that people went off on. That's not a very desirable state off affairs for most people. Removing only an ignored user's posts would make reply chains look something like they do when a moderator goes through and deletes a specific user's posts, or someone goes through and deletes all their old posts, then their account. Namely people responding to a bunch of blank posts, whose contents you can only know if someone should happen to quote one of the now blank posts. Then eventually no blank posts as people continue discussing among themselves without the ignored user. That strikes a pretty reasonable balance as far as most people are concerned. You will still get people complaining about people responding to the ignored user, but that's going to be a minority of people using the feature. And frankly, in my experience, the sorts of users that complain 'stop quoting and responding to this person I have on ignore, I don't want to see any hint of them', are more likely than not to be the sort of user that people put on their ignore list.
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Jess_than_three Apr 6, 2016 +41
`you blocked this user` would be more consistent with the way messages from blocked users in modmail currently display ("[unblock user to see this message]", or text to that effect). Also, just because I think /u/SomeRandomJerk is a jerk and I don't want to read what they have to say, that doesn't necessarily entail that there won't be interesting or useful things downthread from their garbage (although it seems unlikely). Idk. This is just me complaining and nothing ever being good enough, but personally, if I ran the world, I'd want to see a slightly more granular system: rather than `block`/`no block`, `block from my inbox`/`block from the whole site`/`no block`.
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Ryltarr Apr 6, 2016 +10
I think your options are better stated as: `unblocked`/`muted`/`blocked` With `muted` being a mix of the old and the new: You don't see their messages, and don't get alerted to their replies; but you can still see their comments out in the wild, but with their name tagged as blocked. (much like the [S],[A],[M] tags that exist now)
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Bardfinn Apr 6, 2016 +347
I reasonably believe that this approach is best. It will cause trolls to disappear into hidden threads, and then they'll either entertain each other, or they'll wonder where their audience went, and have an impetus to reform their behaviour.
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why_rob_y Apr 6, 2016 +45
>It will cause trolls to disappear into hidden threads I think there are too many users for that. Even if hundreds of people block a particular troll, that's still just a fraction of the users who would see him in even a moderately sized sublistnook.
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Donnadre Apr 6, 2016 +57
> have an impetus to reform their behaviour. Lol, nope. Besides, people will just use the "block" as a super downvote, and what you're calling "reformed behaviour" would just be participation in groupthink.
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lotsosmiley Apr 6, 2016 +126
I vote for the latter "you blocked this user" hiding their comment, but letting the rest of the chain be visible. Possibly an option to see which user in case you want to revisit the decision to block them and decide to unblock or keep blocking them.
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lecturermoriarty Apr 6, 2016 +60
> in case you want to revisit the decision to block them and decide to unblock or keep blocking them. I can see that happening a lot. "Why did I block that guy?....Oh. Right."
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lotsosmiley Apr 6, 2016 +18
I know, right? And maybe you'd never unblock them, but maybe you might. At the very least, being able to see that comment or the comment chain after theirs without having to unblock them completely would be a good thing, I think.
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scriptmonkey420 Apr 6, 2016 +92
I really like the changing their text to `you have blocked this user` Keeps everything else in place but silently muting the user you blocked.
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gizzardgullet Apr 6, 2016 +119
>(you)...whatever, blocking you >> `you have blocked this user` >>> wrecked >>> savage >>>wow dude >>> list of burn centers
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +151
`you have blocked this user`
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +148
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Idriani Apr 6, 2016 -82
Is it possible with the new system to block entire sublistnooks? I'd like to flag a sublistnook as blocked and then block every subscriber of that sublistnook. There are currently a lot of hate filled sublistnooks like that of /r/GenderCynical that spend all of their time harassing users. It would be great to, for example block that sublistnook, and every user ~~subscribed~~ who submits or comments to it. This group of men who try to act like they are women run around rampant on sublistnooks outside of their own and downvote anyone who does not subscribe to their group think. They spend their days fetishing the idea of being a woman and then fight against what **real** women struggle for. They are an inhumane mix of sociopaths who should be put down. ^^^^hi ^^^^freaks Edit: and the responses to this post defending people who chant for the death of people who are different than them is evidence of the need for this system. Edit2: I would also like to point out that I went from +50 to -80 within hours of this post being **BRIGADED** by these people. https://www.listnook.com/r/GenderCynical/comments/4dnf5o/someone_in_rannouncements_is_not_happy_about_us/
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +90
Currently, no. This is intended for abuse that ends up in your inbox. Honest question, as we've been thinking about this: where would you set the bar for blocking an entire sublistnook? Submitters? Commenters? Subscribers? Readers?
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +27
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j_sunrise Apr 6, 2016 +7
While the example you stated is about a trans man (female to male), I thought GenderCritical focuses more on trans women (male to female).
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ScabWingedAngel Apr 6, 2016 +10
[Usually, yes.](https://www.listnook.com/r/GenderCynical/wiki/index) They usually don't acknowledge trans men exist, though they call trans women men and vice versa, adding to the confusion.
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Oxus007 Apr 6, 2016 +405
[You know that's not an option Keyser](http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/duty_calls.png)
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xkcd_transcriber Apr 6, 2016 +83
[Original Source](https://xkcd.com/386/) [Mobile](https://m.xkcd.com/386/) **Title:** Duty Calls **Title-text:** What do you want me to do? LEAVE? Then they'll keep being wrong\! [Comic Explanation](https://www.explainxkcd.com/wiki/index.php/386#Explanation) **Stats:** This comic has been referenced 3163 times, representing 2.9790% of referenced xkcds. --- ^[xkcd.com](https://www.xkcd.com) ^| ^[xkcd sub](https://www.listnook.com/r/xkcd/) ^| ^[Problems/Bugs?](https://www.listnook.com/r/xkcd_transcriber/) ^| ^[Statistics](http://xkcdref.info/statistics/) ^| ^[Stop Replying](https://listnook.com/message/compose/?to=xkcd_transcriber&subject=ignore%20me&message=ignore%20me) ^| ^[Delete](https://listnook.com/message/compose/?to=xkcd_transcriber&subject=delete&message=delete%20t1_d1sc9tv)
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Idriani Apr 7, 2016 +1
Just so you know, they have since brigaded this post. I would really like an official response to this type of behavior.
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +398
are blocks really called "enemies" in the code? that's hilarious
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +384
It follows the "friend" logic. Some variable names are obvious.
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verdatum Apr 6, 2016 +179
Those are some of the most satisfying moments in programming...where you don't have to either spend twenty minutes figuring out what to call something or say f*** it, name it something confusing, and hope you'll remember what your lousy comment really means in the future. Immediately knowing exactly what a variable should be named is a satisfaction par with getting an 'I' block in Tetris when everything except one column is completely solid.
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blindcolumn Apr 6, 2016 +14
If you really want to f*** with your co-workers, name variables using emoji. ~~It's fully legal in most languages that support Unicode, including C#, Java, and Javascript!~~ int 🍕 = 1337; Edit: Turns out you can't do it in Javascript, just tested it. Edit 2: Turns out you can't do it in C# either. Edit 3: Welp, you can't do it in Java either. Somebody needs to write a language that supports emoji in variable names.
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RedSpikeyThing Apr 6, 2016 +17
Swift supports it. I want to deprecate a function by putting a steaming turd at the end.
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Jakeable Apr 6, 2016 +78
Have you considered adding the ability to add blocks on that prefs page?
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +112
Considered it, yes, and it's on the possible list for version 2. The intention with this feature is to block people who have done something trolly or harassing and directed at you rather than to allow the creation of general purpose block lists.
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John_Barlycorn Apr 6, 2016 +67
The majority of trolls I want to avoid are replying to *other* people. I shouldn't have to wait for them to reply to me before I block them. Heck, allow me to set a threshold where if the user's been blocked by X number of other people, I auto-block them. :-)
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +170
Remember: you are doing a public service by downvoting the trolls!
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CuilRunnings Apr 6, 2016 +49
An admin talking about the core functionality of listnook?!?! WHAT YEAR IS THIS?!?!?!
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +40
[2010](https://www.listnook.com/r/blog/comments/dzl1o/and_like_that_poof_hes_gone/c1456js)? I should know better :( Also, GET OFF MY LAWN!
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CuilRunnings Apr 6, 2016 -14
lol why did you link me to that guy? I've called for only 3 admins to be fired: ellen pao, 808s, and redtaboo. So far I've 2/3.
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +14
ha. I was going for "I'm accustomed to speaking plainly in these situations." :)
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MachiavellianMan Apr 6, 2016 +88
I'm a bit disappointed Keyser. You missed an absolute perfect reference.[ "Just block the user and..."](https://youtu.be/V1tmkAFb_Os)
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +91
I try very hard not to [reuse old jokes](https://www.listnook.com/comments/dzl1o/and_like_that_poof_hes_gone/). Also, in other news, I'm back. :)
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +677
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +83
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hucksterme Apr 6, 2016 +116
That was good. I turned bright red for about 10 seconds.
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EM12 Apr 6, 2016 +13
Gosh sometimes I wish us mobile users didn't have the power to know when this happens. Sometimes I want to get Rick rolled!
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +312
Yeah I know right? I mean seriously that guy.
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Aetrion Apr 6, 2016 +38
Oh man, this is one of the most clever things I've seen on Listnook in a while.
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +28
So is this essentially like a shadow ban for the abusive user from yourself? Since they don't know anything is different but you personally can't see their posts at all?
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challenge4 Apr 6, 2016 +65
I wondered why you hadn't been replying to my messages.
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +136
It's not you it's me... ...because I pushed the "block user" button.
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AsinineToaster27 Apr 6, 2016 +149
Can I block admins? Just for the sake of blocking admins?
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +132
[oh. hai](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8Kyi0WNg40). What've you got in mind?
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tocilog Apr 6, 2016 +197
I just find it annoying that sometimes your username is blue and sometimes it's red. Who do you think you are, electric Superman?
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cybercuzco Apr 6, 2016 +204
so /u/warlizard is going to block everyone?
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Warlizard Apr 6, 2016 +49
Serious answer: I have blocked a few people with RES, but only a very few. IMO, different opinions help me stay fresh as I get older and keep me from having stale and dated views on the world. The only time I block someone is if they are a total a****** and / or won't actually talk about the issue and descend into insults.
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cybercuzco Apr 6, 2016 +17
You're not supposed to be serious ಠ_ಠ
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +215
We can only hope.
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Warlizard Apr 6, 2016 +471
ಠ_ಠ
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +203
**OH C*** HE FOUND US**. Oh. hai, Warlizard. How's it, you know, going?
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Warlizard Apr 6, 2016 +236
Same ol, same ol. Just finished my ketchup bath and I'm about to head to the modeling agency. You?
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +154
Ah you know how it is. Apparently someone said something wrong on the internet, and there's some indirect evidence that this time it might have been me...
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Warlizard Apr 6, 2016 +245
Sometimes you're the bug, sometimes you're the windshield.
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F_E_M_A Apr 6, 2016 +63
New headers for the warlizard gaming forums?
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TheBaltimoron Apr 6, 2016 +331
Great, now can you fix the search feature?
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +1330
Listnook has a search feature!?
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ParanoidDrone Apr 6, 2016 +64
I know this comment is in jest, but it's seriously more efficient to search Google for "site:listnook.com/r/whatever " than it is to use Listnook's built-in search. It's kind of sad.
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WasteofInk Apr 6, 2016 +22
How is that sad? Google's entire purpose is to search and do it well. Listnook has other uses and priorities.
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +422
Please think of how this affects our lives and take it seriously. I'm sure there is premature ejactulating futanari e***** fiction on Listnook somewhere, but damned if I can find it. It's like torture. Torture!
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Marmadukian Apr 6, 2016 +31
Just use Google and add `site:www.listnook.com search words` it will filter the results to be only from listnook.
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +55
And not the good kind
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piepei Apr 6, 2016 +126
Yeh but for some reason you have to go to google.com to use it. Just type in "site:listnook.com " and then whatever it is you're searching for.
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TheBaltimoron Apr 6, 2016 +59
No, not really, but it has a practice search feature that doesn't yield any results where you type in what you're going to need to just google.
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outadoc Apr 6, 2016 +25
Nah, they're just messing with you, don't worry about it.
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your_mind_aches Apr 6, 2016 +41
The search feature is perfectly functional. The way titles are structured doesn't help. The only way to fix the search feature would be to add a tag system for posts and that could cause a lot of problems.
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kittypuppet Apr 6, 2016 +40
If enough people block the same person, will it notify you guys to look into said user? Cause that'd be interesting if it did.
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +59
I can, of course, neither confirm nor deny that's exactly the sort of thing that we'd do.
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The_Adventurist Apr 6, 2016 +18
"We're not sure your opinions are really 'Listnook Material' sir, we'll have to ask you to leave and by ask I mean force."
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +23
I didnt even know avocados or change my view existed! neat
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +12
I KNOW! Props to /u/sporkicide for tipping me off to that one.
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +22
jokes on you and your wasted time implementing this feature; I never get PMs!
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qwb3656 Apr 6, 2016 +201
This is a great enhancement to Listnook, I can't wait to block all those people calling me a "troll" and "spambot". I just want to tell everyone about hot n**** in PROXY.
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +124
you, sir or ma'am, are a troll and a spambot. Possibly a scoundrel!
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InOranAsElsewhere Apr 6, 2016 +79
> Possibly a scoundrel! Whoa, there. Too far.
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jen_wexxx Apr 6, 2016 +41
Will it eventually be possible to block someone who has never messaged you or replied to your comment before?
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +137
In principle, yes, but I'm not really sure we want to go down that road. Contrary to some of the concerns in this thread, this is about targeted abuse and (shall we say) directed trolling rather than about encouraging the creation of an echo chamber.
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JackalKing Apr 6, 2016 +56
> this is about targeted abuse and (shall we say) directed trolling rather than about encouraging the creation of an echo chamber. You know, I sometimes give you admins shit over some things (not publicly of course. You guys are big and scary), but props to you guys for this. This was a good choice, because I have no doubt that if you could block people you haven't interacted with that some people would already be drafting a list of undesirables based on association and not abuse.
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Troggie42 Apr 6, 2016 +17
There are already tag lists for people who have participated in certain sublistnooks, block lists probably already exist in the mere hope that maybe one day they'll implement the feature.
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GlamRockDave Apr 6, 2016 +37
Now can you guys find a way to detect idiots who get into a thread early and downvote everyone in an attempt to float their comment up?
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +51
Honestly and truly working on it.
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Arithered Apr 6, 2016 +12
Oh gawd it's the *worst* in AMAs. People thinking "TODAY'S THE DAY AMANDA SEYFRIED WILL FINALLY LEARN THAT I THINK SHE AND I ARE VERY SIMILAR AND THEN WE SHALL FALL IN LOVE IMMEDIATELY AND BEGET NUMEROUS OFFSPRING. Better downvote all these assholes asking questions about life and her work and shit. "
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Buckawesome Apr 6, 2016 +22
I blocked gallowbob and now the front page is blank!
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shoopdahoop22 Apr 6, 2016 +82
Next, I think we should add site-wide spoiler tags for Listnook.
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wtfudgery Apr 6, 2016 +35
Is there a way to select a user - who hasn't messaged/commented in reply to you and block them - through their user name alone?
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +41
No. Currently it's only from within the inbox.
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soupychicken89 Apr 6, 2016 +34
Can something be implemented where one can click on a user (say, one who posts a ridiculous amount of gifs or something for karma) and block seeing anything posted by the person?
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Sirisian Apr 6, 2016 +13
I once did that on RES. (I've since deleted all my ignores). Ended up ignoring every user that posted reposts. It was such a habit to hover over people's names and hit ignore that I did it in comments also to low-effort posters. I had probably over 3K users blocked after two years. It completely changes how a lot of the sublistnooks look. I remember when RES would fail it was like looking at a totally different sublistnook in some cases. (Especially /r/funny and /r/pics). One issue I see with such a system is that users that should be downvoted or removed from a community end up getting ignored. This is probably toxic to users that don't ignore these people and lowers the quality of the sublistnook. That said Listnook would have that information and could probably relay it to mods anonymously. That said ignoring on a grand-scale could be disastrous for promoting a self-moderating community. There's also the performance issue. Listnook would need to generate each page uniquely for every user filtering out possibly thousands of accounts. Not sure if they want to do that to their servers.
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iamzombus Apr 6, 2016 +19
Why not add a button to report PMs as well?
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +49
There already is one, and that block button is plumbed in on the back end to a similar reporting flow.
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ademnus Apr 6, 2016 +2
Halfway through that sentence I doubted my ability to read English. [Come again, Professor?](https://metvnetwork.s3.amazonaws.com/qRNC6-1457728234-2467-list_items-gilligan.jpg)
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GwenTheWelshGal Apr 6, 2016 +14
Luckily, I've no reason to block anybody yet since nobody's thrown abuse in my inbox. Hopefully I won't end up having to use it.
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +33
You, [insert name here], are a poopie head.
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docmartens Apr 6, 2016 +11
Can you reply to this so I can be the first to block an admin?
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Okichah Apr 6, 2016 +31
Is there any risk of abuse?
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OttselSpy25 Apr 6, 2016 +9
Just wanna way that this would have been a brilliant April Fools joke. I was just thinking about how it's odd that Listnook doesn't let you block people.
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lakotian Apr 6, 2016 +55
Blocked Don't talk to me or my son ever again.
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atred Apr 7, 2016 +11
Does it work similarly to covering your ears and going "la la la la la"?
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GallowBoob Apr 6, 2016 +176
Finally, salty users can right out block me and make their experience *better*. Thank you admins!
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lenaro Apr 6, 2016 +67
but if i blocked you i would miss all the delicious drama where people get jealous about karma, which according to experts ranks among the top varieties
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +73
Yeah! And another thing: why don't those admins *do something* about that GallowBoob guy? amiright?
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lospechosdelachola Apr 6, 2016 +7
If I block a user, will he also not see my posts?
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +24
It's one-sided. They can still see you, but you can't see them. The point is to not tip them off that they've been blocked.
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Damadawf Apr 6, 2016 +18
I feel like I should block you for posting that cringeworthy "keep calm" meme unironically.
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +12
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +43
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batbanks Apr 6, 2016 +41
**THIS IS UNACCEPTABLE!** **I HAVE FREEDOM OF SPEECH!** **I AM A MAN!** **YOU ARE SJWS!** **THIS WILL NOT STAND!**
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +53
I think you have a problem with your capslock and your asterisk key might be acting up. Please contact IT for a replacement keyboard.
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +8
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +19
*dons his robe and wizard hat and hands /u/TheSqrtMinus1 a cookie*
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randomgunhunter Apr 7, 2016 +3
i noticed you aren't a moderator of this sub. do the mods have to approve you to be one or you can make yourself a mod automatically?
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GOU_NoMoreMrNiceGuy Apr 6, 2016 +9
good. this is vastly preferable to moderators getting involved and silencing people for everyone. let each person decide for themself.
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Ander1ap Apr 6, 2016 +6
Does this work on Alien Blue? I browse mostly via the app.
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +66
And also encourage them to create alts to do it instead....
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016
bring back the vote counters you cunts
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Drunken_Economist Apr 6, 2016 +20
"Why doesn't listnook implement this feature RES has?" *listnook implements feature* "Why did listnook bother implementing this feature? RES already has it!"
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jamesrc Apr 6, 2016 +207
So this sounds like a sort of personal shadowban, in effect. They can message you, tag you, whatever, and you'll never see it. They'll be invisible. Couple of questions (well, four): 1. When I block someone, will messages they sent me in the past disappear, even if I replied? 2. Can I unblock someone? How can I unblock them if their profile is invisible to me? If I unblock them, will I suddenly see direct messages they sent me during the time they were blocked? **Edit: I am now aware that I fail reading comprehension in asking the first part of question**. 3. If I can't see their comments, will I therefore not see replies to their comments from others? What if I have Listnook Gold and someone tags me ( /u/jamesrc ) in a reply to one of their comments? Any notification? 4. Say the user submits a link, and someone sends me a direct link to the discussion thread -- do I just get a 404? That is all.
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aryst0krat Apr 6, 2016 +49
>Can I unblock someone? How can I unblock them if their profile is invisible to me?   >> Blocks can be viewed or removed on your preferences page here.   >If I can't see their comments, will I therefore not see replies to their comments from others?   >>Currently, no. We're redacting the comment tree at the point where any user on your block list appears. The alternative was to do something more explicit (comment deleted or even you blocked this user). > >>Honestly, we'll revisit this approach depending on how it ends up being used.
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jamesrc Apr 6, 2016 +16
> Blocks can be viewed or removed on your preferences page here. Duh - right there in the original message. *sighs*. I'm distracted. :)
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +90
Are you in QA? You think like a QA person.
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +38
Hey, it's not polite to say things like that. He might just have a developmental disability. Source: I've been in QA. :)
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Boojum2k Apr 6, 2016 +20
I don't mind debating, or even arguing with someone, but when you get some idiot who uses the following format exclusively and constantly: Idiot: Point A Me: Refute Point A Idiot: Point B Me: Refute Point B Idiot: Point A Wash. Rinse. Repeat. No thanks, I'll save my attention and message list the annoyance.
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D0cR3d Apr 6, 2016 +31
How does this affect mod actions on the user, such as mod mails from the sub from that user (regular mod mail started by the blocked mod or ban messages sent on behalf the mod), post/comment removal (distinguished) replies? --- **EDIT:** I did some testing. TLDR is if a user blocks you as a mod, they don't get any inbox notices for either comment replies or mod mail from you the mod. So be careful removing something of their and being accused of not notifying them if they happened to block you Testing Steps: 1. User (Yer_Assassinator) blocks mod (D0cR3d) | [Exhibit A](https://i.imgur.com/fN1k8Qy.png) 2. User makes post on sublistnook (/r/D0cR3d) | [Exhibit A](https://i.imgur.com/DylUStk.png) 3. Mod removes post, leaves comment reply | [Exhibit A](https://i.imgur.com/HLVqg8Q.png) | [Exhibit B](https://i.imgur.com/6gBiRFB.png) 4. User checks if they got any inbox replies and if it shows from the mod, or if the mod reply shows on their post. | [Exhibit A - No, no inbox reply. Note, this account is an inactive test account.](https://i.imgur.com/n6si4eP.png) | [Exhibit B - Shows there is 1 comment but is not shown.](https://i.imgur.com/Z4hSQsv.png) 5. Mod sends a removal reason via Toolbox PM feature (Same as sending a new PM as the user from the sublistnook) | [Exhibit A](https://i.imgur.com/P59ywwn.png) | [Exhibit B](https://i.imgur.com/RUoeFBk.png) 6. User checks inbox for new message | [Exhibit A - No new inbox message from that mod.](https://i.imgur.com/n6si4eP.png) 7. From mod account, went to the URL of the message | [Exhibit A](https://i.imgur.com/C81widH.png) 8. As the user, went to the same message - No message shown | [Exhibit A](https://i.imgur.com/SuX25qR.png)
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Jakeable Apr 6, 2016 +21
I just tried it in modmail and it collapses their messages and says "unblock to view message".
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +13
[Yup.](https://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/4dmnn6/new_and_improved_block_user_feature_in_your_inbox/d1scs8r)
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gatlin Apr 7, 2016 +3
Idiots of course got here first and the top reply is asinine and embarrassing; as someone who has actually received harassment, thank you for this feature and thank you for the development and QA that went into ensuring it works as advertised
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Stalked_Like_Corn Apr 7, 2016
Can we get a permanent mute feature of users in mod mail. As a mod of one of the more controversial subs, we get a lot of mod mail that is just, well, unwarranted. We mute the users for 72 hours and they count down until they can message us again. We've had some go through 3-4 mutings.
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Ramriel Apr 6, 2016 +1
Have admins considered giving users the ability to delete Private Messages?
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +1
Let me delete shit in my f****** inbox
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +559
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adarkfable Apr 6, 2016 +282
hey it me josh pls respond i love you. i look at ur pic each day. hello? pls anser me
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throatfrog Apr 6, 2016 +132
hey it's me your stalker
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2014justin Apr 6, 2016 +57
Wait till you see r/goneweld... so many tools there
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Jux_ Apr 6, 2016 +159
And then they get upset and blame women for never talking to them.
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born_here Apr 6, 2016 +8
Can I also block sublistnooks? I like to use /r/all but I'm sick of the_donald.
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316nuts Apr 6, 2016 +109
Aww, thanks for the shoutout :3 My quest to make /r/316cats a default continues to this day! Sure it lacks quality pictures.. or any other cats besides my own.. but at least there's a lot of content?
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kerovon Apr 6, 2016 +13
>or any other cats besides my own Except for April 1st. And more importantly, /r/316cats is where all of the movers and shakers in listnook hang out. Not currently one but want to be? Subscribe to /r/316cats.
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +12
Ok, now you have 817 subscribers, everyone subscribe and make /u/316nuts dream come true!
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316nuts Apr 6, 2016 +18
it's extremely weird that 800+ people are willing to look at my super-low-quality cat pictures. it started off as a half joke.. and.. well it's still a weird joke, but it's fun to post cat pictures so i keep doing it
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familynight Apr 6, 2016 +18
The grey kitty saga is a gripping and compelling drama.
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316nuts Apr 6, 2016 +20
i haven't seen that a****** for nearly a week. dunno what he's up to, but he'll get a good talkin' to when he shows up again. jerk.
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almightybob1 Apr 6, 2016 +97
I'm far more concerned that /u/sporkicide doesn't know how to spell hamster.
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Sporkicide Apr 6, 2016 +130
I sent /u/Keysersosa a barrage of insulting PMs, of course he picked the one with a typo.
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KeyserSosa Apr 6, 2016 +72
Oh man. What an *a*******. How do you guys get anything done with engineers like that!?
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chubbybrother Apr 6, 2016 +9
The only reason I come to listnook is to insult people and berate other users. I'm very unhappy in my own life so I try to drag others down to make mine not seem so bad. Have you given any consideration to how these changes affect users like myself? This will effectively remove a significant portion of your user base from all participation without their knowledge or consent. Am I seriously the only one that realizes how fucked up this is?
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heatheranne Apr 6, 2016 +9
Does apply to users already blocked? Edit: It does. I went and checked my favourite blocked troll, and got [this](http://i.imgur.com/ABX9Ycy.png)
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DiscoJer May 2, 2016 +1
You know what would be great? Being able to delete messages. I have no particular desire to block people, but I would like to delete the various insulting messages I get. To be honest, I don't even look at my messages anymore because of that.
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[deleted] Apr 6, 2016 +52
Have to delete my account because I angered Monica Lewinsky fans. Too angry for me.
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is_it_fun Apr 7, 2016 +1
Can I block myself? Would that work?
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fatty5000 Apr 6, 2016 +78
Damn, finally. Now when can we block whole sublistnooks from /all?
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