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lonefur Apr 10, 2026 +470

Weird hill for Japan to die on

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donotgotoroom237 Apr 10, 2026 +1

*"War crimes?! What war crimes?! No we didn't bayonet and behead babies! Shut up and watch anime!"* [don quijote theme in the background]

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dHotSoup Apr 10, 2026 +1

Biiiiicu bicu bicu bicu camera!

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donotgotoroom237 Apr 10, 2026 +1

[family mart tune drowning out the anguished screams of the numerous children and women raped by the japanese imperial army]

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TheTrueErnie117 Apr 10, 2026 +126

well a lot of Japanese have died on hills so this is just the modern way of doing it.

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serce__ Apr 10, 2026 +27

Bruh 💀 gotta apply banzai'd to that burn

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stevenmoreso Apr 10, 2026 +1

If it didn’t get an iconic photo of American marines raising a flag on it, I guess it didn’t happen

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Coldspark824 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Is iwo jima a hill

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Saintbaba Apr 10, 2026 +1

I imagine it’s less about the specific issue and more about saving face.

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sda963109 Apr 10, 2026 -19

They paid compasation to Korean government twice in exchange for their agreement on not bringing this up "unnecessarily." But the money was largely stolen by fraud in the korean government. They also dissolved the foundation they built and confisticatethe funds and subverted the agreement. Obviously Japan does not like these.

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PuzzleheadedChip2720 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Can't deny history by writing a check.

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FederalAgent17 Apr 10, 2026 +1

What does this statue have to do with the supposed Korean fraud? Japan’s govt should get over itself and be glad it was left in tact as a nation and be allowed to prosper in spite of being a hotly contested geopolitical area.

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DateMasamusubi Apr 10, 2026 +1

Read the actual details. The govt was not supposed to. But this is a civic group and not party to any agreement.

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sidonay Apr 10, 2026 +1

Always has been. They absolutely refuse to acknowledge the atrocities they committed in lead up to and in WW2.

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angelus14 Apr 10, 2026 +100

> the Japanese ambassador, Makoto Osawa, said “needlessly stirring up interest” in the issue could become a burden not only for Japan and South Korea’s cooperation I'd say needlessly downplaying it is also a burden on relations but what do I know.

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Own_Round_7600 Apr 10, 2026 +37

Nooooo why must you ruin this family by bringing up what Uncle Japan did to your sisters, geez that was such long time ago, get over it already ahaha can we just not dwell on such negativity and focus on peace and moving on together 🙏😙🌹😇

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hey_its_drew Apr 10, 2026 +47

What's funny is c*** like this spotlights them in the worst lighting a lot more than acknowledging the history ever could, but Japan has a very strong determination to be proud of their elderly family member and ancestors, character horrors be damned. Really, many cultures do, and they could all use a healthy serving of shame.

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PhilosophyforOne Apr 10, 2026 +1

Because it’s not about valorizing people for their character, but about propping up social hierarchies and conserving traditions. The goal is not improvement, it’s maintenance.

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Imaginary-Case3976 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Yea, just freaking accept it and move on and the past is the past. Them trying to rewrite history is just adding fuel to the fire. You don’t see Mongolia rewriting Genghis Kahn evil deeds or Persia with Darius or France with Napoleon or China with their numerous bad emperors. Their obsession with being publicly liked and maintaining a good image reeks of desperation and insecurity.

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Fickle-Maintenance-1 Apr 10, 2026 +209

Hmm far-right PM who wants to change pacifist constitution and talks about “making Japan great again”. I wonder which period of Japan she thought was great and they should return to.

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ennywan Apr 10, 2026 +49

To an era where they can strong arm 'minnows' like NZ into covering up inconvenient memorabilias of Japan's war crimes?

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boofadoof Apr 10, 2026 +1

And it's funny for Japan to call somebody else a minnow when the Japanese economy has been on the decline for 40 years.

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Tryoxin Apr 10, 2026 +1

In the 60s, Japan was living in the 80s. In the 70s, Japan was living in the 80s. In 2026, Japan is living in the 80s.

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ChickenMcRibs Apr 10, 2026 +1

Japan 4th largest gdp. NZ 52nd largest gdp.

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boofadoof Apr 10, 2026 +1

NZ doesn't work its citizens until they literally drop dead at their desks.

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GreatMightyOrb Apr 10, 2026 +1

And unlike JP, NZ is wholely irrelevant beyond the destination for billionaire pedophiles to build their doomsday bunkers on.

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kl122002 Apr 10, 2026 +5

Edo period?

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lNFORMATlVE Apr 10, 2026 +1

They never say and their supporters never care. It’s just a front for racism.

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Witty_Badger1300 Apr 10, 2026 +26

Historical revisionism is not a good take for anyone to have.

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Eagle4317 Apr 10, 2026 +166

Germany regrets their actions in WWII. Japan only regrets that the war was lost.

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Zizimz Apr 10, 2026 +70

Somebody once said: the West is no better than the rest of the world when it comes to murder, violence and exploitation. But they are the only ones who feel bad about it afterwards.

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ccs77 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Well, feel bad is pretty convenient isn't it? Qatar and Saudi holding sports event? Sportswashing! USA (slavery) holding world cup? European football leagues (colonialization, theft, exploitation)? Nah they are good.

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_wot_m8 Apr 10, 2026 +1

The difference is Qatar and Saudi have slavery TODAY

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BuildAnything4 Apr 10, 2026 -66

I'm German and don't regret shit. I didn't live back then, so why would I. The only people who should have regrets are those who are committing war crimes today. That's the Americans, Russians, and Israelis. Germans have to clean up their mess by taking in the refugees from their wars.

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Eagle4317 Apr 10, 2026 +63

There's a difference between personal regret and wanting to avoid the horrors of the past. Denazification was probably the most effective anti-brainwashing campaign in human history. Japan needed something similar, but it was never really done.

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redcomet29 Apr 10, 2026 +7

It was effective at teaching them to hate the symbol and the name but not so much recognize the factors that led to it or the ideology itself. Germans would be back on that train if you give it a new name, logo and a different target than the Jewish. I moved to Germany and a lot of them are giving off that vibe again, its just "different this time".

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Darkfight Apr 10, 2026 +1

As someone who went to school in Germany we were taught the underlying mechanisms of fascism EXTENSIVELY. Like I obviously don't know for sure but I would guess Germany has one of if not straight up the best education about that specific topic. What we were also taught is that economic factors play a huge role in these dynamics and looking at the state of the world economy...let's say I'm not surprised fascism is rearing it's ugly head again. Then again if you compare us to our neighbors, direct and indirect, we can see that Germany is actually doing quite well in that regard. But obviously because of history everyone is looking at us specifically. But I'm not under any illusions... One bad enough economic slip (cough AI bubble cough) and a big part of the so called civilized world will go straight back to the good old ways

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Absolute_Enema Apr 10, 2026 +1

This is happening all over the west, including in places where they would still proudly claim that they're above fascism.

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BuildAnything4 Apr 10, 2026 +5

It wasn't that effective obviously as the AFD is the second most popular party here in Germany now. They even invited Musk to speak at an event shortly after he gave the Nazi salute.

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emp_sanfords_hardhat Apr 10, 2026 +13

12mins ago... >_I'm German and don't regret shit. I didn't live back then, so why would I. The only people who should have regrets are those who are committing war crimes today._ Funny that...

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BuildAnything4 Apr 10, 2026 -19

Do you have a point?

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emp_sanfords_hardhat Apr 10, 2026 +7

Yeah. 5mins ago... >_It wasn't that effective obviously as the AFD is the second most popular party here in Germany now. They even invited Musk to speak at an event shortly after he gave the Nazi salute._

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BuildAnything4 Apr 10, 2026 -15

You just like copy pasting? I'll leave you to it.

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GUNGEBOB_SHARTPANTS Apr 10, 2026 +1

Do _you_?

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Aggravating-Drop7676 Apr 10, 2026 -1

This commie fascist does not speak for any of us. Just another moron

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Maeglin75 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Fellow German here. I think you completely misunderstand what this is about. It's not about guild. The people that are guilty are almost all dead by now. You and me are not to blame for what happened before we were born. This is about responsibility. We are not guilty of the crimes our grandparents and great-grandparents have committed, but because this is part of the history of our country and us as a people, it is our shared responsibility to never let something like that ever happen again. And for this it's important to remember. We must never forget what happened. We must honor the victims and condemn the perpetrators and also the ones that did nothing to stop it. I think the Japanese are very wrong to try to forget and deny what happened in the past of their country, because this risks that it can happen again.

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thewavefixation Apr 10, 2026 -8

Kinda funny how people so concerned about war crimes around here never list entities like Sudan, Hamas, Myanmar or M23 - but the Jews always seem to make the cut.

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AdmiralCoconut69 Apr 10, 2026 +11

Amazing, there was once a time when vegans were the most insufferable self-aggrandizing group on the internet. Crazy to think they would lose that title in just a few years.

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Suitable_Mess_9160 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Were? Still are, imo.

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BuildAnything4 Apr 10, 2026 +7

Israel doesn't represent Jews, as much as you wish to force that correlation (which harms the reputation of peaceful Jews all over the world, but you don't care about that)

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Suitable_Mess_9160 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Israel doesn't represent the Jews?? It's their homeland and all the others around the world's silence on their atrocities is deafening.

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thewavefixation Apr 10, 2026 -19

Got it. you prefer your jews passive. And don't want to be reminded of the holocaust.

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BuildAnything4 Apr 10, 2026 +11

You're right, I have to admit that I prefer people who don't commit genocide. You got me.

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thewavefixation Apr 10, 2026 -16

Except you don't want to be reminded that your country was part of a true genocide - for reals. You said you personally had NOTHING to do with it. Got it.

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BuildAnything4 Apr 10, 2026 +9

My country was part of a true genocide- for reals. That was easy. You just think because you can't admit your country's atrocities, nobody can do it.

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thewavefixation Apr 10, 2026 -12

i am perfectly willing to discuss any country's atrocity. I just noticed that you think you are somehow 'clean' lmao. Dumb take.

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BuildAnything4 Apr 10, 2026 +10

You really like making vague accusations and sticking people with labels, don't you?

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Absolute_Enema Apr 10, 2026 +1

Regardless of me finding the idea that they're supposedly "dirty" because they happen to be German absurd, what should they have to do to make amends?

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ThrwAwyVSHypocrites Apr 10, 2026 +1

Israeli sympathiser talks about the cleanliness of others existence. Interesting.

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GhostlitePHX Apr 10, 2026 +8

"True" genocide? Have you SEEN what Gaza looks like? Or do you only see what your MSM handlers allow you to see? Get off of Fox. Get off of CNN. Go see the real horrors committed by these people from real people taking real photos and video. You clearly have no idea how bad it actually is.

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thewavefixation Apr 10, 2026 -4

I agree urban warfare is horrible. You comparing it to the nazi deathcamps is an interesting take.

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Elevals Apr 10, 2026 +1

The majority of the Jewish diaspora is sick of Israel's genocidal bullshit and doesn't want to be associated with you. Quit trying to claim us, we hate you and what you are trying to do in the name of our people.

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LiGuangMing1981 Apr 10, 2026 +1

IDF tells Christians and Druze in Southern Lebanon not to hide Muslims. https://www.nytimes.com/2026/04/01/world/middleeast/lebanon-shiite-israel-evacuation.html Does that remind you of something? It should.

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thewavefixation Apr 10, 2026 +1

Would you care to tell me in your own opinion how this actually compares to the holocaust? I am truly interested

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alexwasashrimp Apr 10, 2026 +1

Well, can we really blame a German listnookor for following an old German tradition?

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BippidiBoppetyBoob Apr 10, 2026 +41

The current Japanese PM is a member of the far right revisionist Nippon Kaigi. She is an awful woman.

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DarthXOmega Apr 10, 2026 +17

Japan acting awfully imperial lately

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kl122002 Apr 10, 2026 +14

My question is, do today's Japanese know why there was a period of US-occupied in Japan history, and what happened during that time, what caused that.

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generic_redditor91 Apr 10, 2026 +12

And they thought mentioning this would help their case... how?

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rickdickmcfrick Apr 10, 2026 +1

Classic japan. Then they wonder and complain about chinese and koreans hating them.

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MachineMindless549 Apr 10, 2026 +22

日本想在世界上抹除他们二战干的坏事。

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Agreeable_Mud_8338 Apr 10, 2026 +18

The Japanese need to understand they have their version of history and the rest of the world has their version ... And Japan is on its own (for good reason)

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TinyZane Apr 10, 2026 +1

Well. Sucks to suck.

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Paula_liest Apr 10, 2026 +1

Japan did the same to Berlin which has a similar statue.

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thebarkbarkwoof Apr 10, 2026 +1

Man up Japan

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ManagementFragrant28 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Nuclear explosion monument? YES; victim statue? NO. Some people always hope others remember what they suffered, but not what they did.

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AtomicCorndogs Apr 10, 2026 +1

What are they gonna do, start enslaving women again? They'll bluster for a bit and then stop talking about it.

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SilverFoxJp Apr 10, 2026 +12

if you see the background, on the purple board, there is korean written. so I would assume that this is successful diplomacy of korea to undermine Japan. Japan is busy nominating trump for noble prize when koreans are winning in NZ.

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troller227 Apr 10, 2026 +31

New Zealand women captured by japanese were also victims of sex slavery during pacific war as well along with Dutch, Australian, France, US, British, Russia, China, Indonesia, Maleisia, Timor-Leste, Myanmmar, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Papua new Guinea, Thaliand. So it's not solely Korean thing, rly.

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SilverFoxJp Apr 10, 2026 +4

The image of the statute resembles more to oriental features, that is why I mentioned Korea.

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SknarfM Apr 10, 2026 +1

Read the article and text under the photo. It is a similar statue. Not the one intended to be installed in New Zealand.

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DateMasamusubi Apr 10, 2026 +1

Yes. For a long time, many countries were poor and receiving foreign aid from Japan so historical issues were kept quiet (The Philippines recently removed its own memorial due to backroom pressure from Japan).

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itiLuc Apr 10, 2026 +5

The photo is from korea I think, nz cars dont have those number plates

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Radiant-Ad-3134 Apr 10, 2026 +1

undermine? Undermine?

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Annunakh Apr 10, 2026 +1

They are not sorry about "comfort women", Nanjing Massacre or Unit 731 stuff. They are ready to repeat all of this and add on top of it if they have a chance.

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HanDMan63 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Thanks to Japan bringing it to my attention....

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PhilosophyforOne Apr 10, 2026 +1

Musg be some awful weak diplomatic relations.

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CharmingShoe Apr 10, 2026 +1

People acknowledging comfort women existed could jeopardise diplomatic relationships

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Every-Development398 Apr 10, 2026 +1

Same energy from family guy. I'm not seeing anything about German history between 1939 and 1945. There's a gap. Everyone was on vacation! On your left is Munich's first city hall, erected in 15... What are you talking about? Germany invaded Poland in 1939. We were invited! Punch was served! You can't ignore those years. Thomas Mann fled to America because of Naziism's hold on Germany. No, he left to manage a Dairy Queen. That's preposterous. I vill hear no more insinuations about Germans! Nothing bad happened! Read more at: [https://tvshowtranscripts.ourboard.org/viewtopic.php?f=430&t=21177](https://tvshowtranscripts.ourboard.org/viewtopic.php?f=430&t=21177)

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TheOnsiteEngineer Apr 10, 2026 +1

I don't know where you're looking but German education spends a lot of time on WW1, the interbellum and rise of the Nazi party, WW2 and Germany's role in it. Maybe not make Family Guy your source of information...

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MommersHeart Apr 10, 2026 +1

What are you on about? Germany spends an significant amount of time educating each generation about their Nazii past to ensure it never happens again. They are known for this. Good grief.

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BuildAnything4 Apr 10, 2026 -24

There's been plenty of "comfort women" provided by the South Korean government to American soldiers since ww2. Weird that this gets all the focus.

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troller227 Apr 10, 2026 +9

difference is that most in this case were forced

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BuildAnything4 Apr 10, 2026 -11

["I still cannot forget being beaten by US soldiers – slapped for lowering my head while pouring drinks, for not smiling, or for no reason at all," one of the plaintiffs, in her 60s and who did not wish to give her name, said in a statement sent to Agence France-Presse (AFP). She said she was only 17 when she was tricked into the job – she thought she was going to be a bartender, but was forced into sex work and told she could not leave due to her "debt."](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/united-states/article/2025/09/09/south-korean-women-file-landmark-forced-prostitution-lawsuit-against-us-military_6745189_133.html)

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Brilliant_Tapir Apr 10, 2026 +3

Got anything to back that up or just another Japanese out to rewrite history?

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BuildAnything4 Apr 10, 2026 -2

I'm not Japanese, I'm just being objective. https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/02/15/south-korea-s-comfort-women-take-on-the-us-military_6750515_4.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_military_and_prostitution_in_South_Korea

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Brilliant_Tapir Apr 10, 2026 +1

You're comparing prostitution with women and girls kidnapped off the streets and from their homes to be sent hundreds of miles away to be raped and killed by Japanese soldiers?

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BuildAnything4 Apr 10, 2026 +1

["I still cannot forget being beaten by US soldiers – slapped for lowering my head while pouring drinks, for not smiling, or for no reason at all," one of the plaintiffs, in her 60s and who did not wish to give her name, said in a statement sent to Agence France-Presse (AFP). She said she was only 17 when she was tricked into the job – she thought she was going to be a bartender, but was forced into sex work and told she could not leave due to her "debt."](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/united-states/article/2025/09/09/south-korean-women-file-landmark-forced-prostitution-lawsuit-against-us-military_6745189_133.html)

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Keffola Apr 10, 2026 +1

You are weird that you can't find any extent of differences in the situations and believe yourself "objective" after reading both wikipedia articles. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort\_women](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comfort_women)

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Common-Macaroon-2320 Apr 10, 2026 +1

It’s great to see you putting in the effort to minimize the situation.

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