lol, every time Starmer gets himself in trouble at home, Trump tries to put the boot in and ends up rallying the whole country around him 😂
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TesterTheDog1 day ago
+1098
To see an example from the Commonwealth, look at the polling numbers for the Canadian election before and after Trump's election.
It was insane to watch.
And continues to, Liberals just flipped parliament to a majority through local riding elections and floor crossings. Though that could be because of Pollieve, leader of the opposition.
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Sea-Manufacturer-3581 day ago
+632
In Australia, our federal election was not too far behind Canada's and by that point Trumpism was so radioactive here that our conservative party suffered their worst electoral defeat since the 1940s.
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ScoobyDoNot1 day ago
+264
A few months previously the Coalition had been comfortably ahead in polling.
Then Trump put tariffs on Australia.
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maskedkiller2151 day ago
+164
Same in Canada too. Conservatives were gonna decimate all the other parties, then Trump puts tariffs on Canada and the 51st state bs. Then once the pendulum swung in the Liberals favour he tried reverse psychology of ‘liking Mark Carney.’ Fooled the old Conservative voters who don’t like Trump but most of us saw right through it.
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SoontobeSam1 day ago
+87
When we all saw how ready PP was to kowtow to the orange menace while he was threatening our sovereignty, even some of the most diehard conservative supporters couldn’t get behind him anymore.
Like seriously, the guy lost the election in a riding that had not only been held by the conservative party for 21 years straight, but that he himself had previously held for 21 years.
They had to force a nobody back bencher from middle of nowhere Alberta (aka the Canadian Deep South) to resign his duly elected seat to trigger a byelection so that little PP could keep leadership of the party that he had sabotaged.
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Everestkid1 day ago
+26
> the guy lost the election in a riding that had not only been held by the conservative party for 21 years straight, but that he himself had previously held for 21 years.
For that, you've also gotta give credit to the Liberal candidate who won, Bruce Fanjoy. Dude knocked on doors for years, even when the Liberals were becoming increasingly unpopular.
338Canada now considers that riding to be a Liberal lock.
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Rudeboy671 day ago
+12
The fact it was an Ottawa riding and PP was a vocal supporter of the Truckers, didn't help. All the Ottawa residents were, WTF? You're giving a big thumbs up to the morons who have made my life hell for weeks. F*** you.
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Unnomable1 day ago
+50
Yeah you know what's a great plan? Have the guy who lost his own riding remain leader of the party.
Great for liberals (and NDP I hope).
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SoontobeSam1 day ago
+25
I know, right? He’s done more to help the Liberal Government than any campaigning ever could.
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JoseCansecoMilkshake1 day ago
+15
"In the real world, if you don't do your job you lose it."
-Pierre Poilievre, 2023
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rocketindividual1 day ago
+22
On top of this, the opposition (who were quite far ahead in the polls a few months before the election) started doing the whole scolding the left/bad winners routine as soon as Trump won the election in the US. They could barely hide their joy when Trump won, who then started tariffing the f*** out of us shortly after taking office.
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tincartofdoom1 day ago
+8
> who then started tariffing the f*** out of us shortly after taking office
And their public response to this was effectively "it's our fault he's hurting us. We were asking for it."
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bb_dev_g1 day ago
+25
I’m not sure if this was a record defeat for the Conservative Party here in Canada. However, the Conservative leader, went from presumptive PM, to losing the seat he’d held for 20 years.
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ElusiveGuy1 day ago
+27
Pretty much the same thing happened here. The leader of the LNP Coalition (conservative/right) party lost his seat of 24 years.
It was funny watching the results and wondering if we were going to pull a Canada.
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Everestkid1 day ago
+10
It would be extremely difficult for the Conservatives to suffer a record defeat, given their loss in 1993 when they went from 156 seats prior to the election to... uh, two seats.
Worst defeat of any party in Canada at the federal level, and one of the worst in any Western democracy, period. Though there have been two occasions at the provincial level where one party genuinely won every single seat in the legislature - Prince Edward Island in 1935 and New Brunswick in 1987.
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doublegulpofdietcoke1 day ago
+5
Record defeat for the Conservatives was under Mulroney(technically Kim Campbell) . A different flavour of Conservatism. It was probably one of the worst collapses of support though.
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ucemike1 day ago
+7
> by that point Trumpism was so radioactive here that our conservative party suffered their worst electoral defeat since the 1940s.
Well, at least some of our suffering is having good effects elsewhere. I hope it does the same for us here in the upcoming elections.
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mz3ns1 day ago
+231
As a Canadian. It was a collection of things that all worked together, Trump was definitely the central figure to all of it, but the other aspects played there parts in their own right.
1) Trump's attack on Canada solidified Canadians in a way I hadn't seen since early Covid before everyone lost their minds about lockdowns, etc.
2) Pollieve has about as much charm of Vance but considers himself the second coming of Stephen Harper (former PM fairly well respected by traditional Canadian Conservatives and near-center Liberals).
3) Trudeau's stay being worn out.
4) Carney being an already respected banker by anyone old enough to pay attention to his tenure in the Central Bank. He also managed to play the "every man" much better then Pollieve did. He also became the rallying figure behind the Anti-Trump sentiment (Elbow's up, etc), whereas the leaks about Pollieve's team trying to get Trump to hold off attacks as it was hurting him, etc. made him appear weak.
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rantingathome1 day ago
+79
Poilievre was under the impression that he was **beating** Trudeau in the polls by 20 points... turns out that it was Trudeau **losing** by 20 points. As soon as there was a non-Trudeau alternative, Poilievre's lead completely collapses.
Frankly, Trudeau had to know that Freeland would be forced to resign after being demoted in Cabinet, setting off a revolt of his own party. I think he knew that the Liberals could not rebound with him as leader, gave his own party a reason to ask for his resignation so that Pierre Poilievre couldn't take credit, then resigned. Demoting the Finance Minister is a mistake only a neophyte leader makes, not a ten year Prime Minister. I think he purposely fell on his own sword in a way that gave his party the ability to distance itself from his legacy.
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Kirby1891 day ago
+50
People often say the politicians are stupid and stuff, and I'm sure some are. But not all of them. Like you said, he was prime minister for 10 years. No way he didn't know what he was doing.
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rantingathome1 day ago
+39
Frankly, from everything I've heard about him, he played the political game in Ottawa better than almost anyone (makes sense, he's PET's son). He doesn't make rookie mistakes.
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SoontobeSam1 day ago
+20
He’s a legacy, kinda like a Canadian Kennedy (the old ones, not whatever the hell this current one is), he grew up in all the right circles and exposed to the political world in ways that few others ever could have been.
He has enough of an ego that I could see the Freeland spat being legitimate, but not enough that I think he would have let it play out so publicly without an agenda.
He knew his name had become a rallying point for the conservatives and stepping aside could have given them a boost in confidence if he let it, so I’d totally believe the theory of manufactured controversy to give the party reason to oust him rather than a lame “stepping aside for personal reasons“ that would be twisted into “running scared” or “folding under Con pressure“
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rantingathome1 day ago
+15
If he knew he had to resign (I think he did), there was no way he was gonna do it and let Poilievre take credit.
Could he have predicted Carney's success? No. Did he know the party had a better chance in other hands? Yes
All the Liberals involved have landed on their feet. Sounds like Justin had a decent weekend.
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SoontobeSam1 day ago
+7
Pretty sure he landed on his feet, I mean he’s hanging out on yachts and going to coachella with Katy Perry.
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Sleep_Robber1 day ago
+12
P.P. didn’t notice the ostrich in the coal mine.
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thunderbag1 day ago
+60
Pollieve is like a cardboard cutout with a Temu Trump voice box glued to it.
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gbinasia1 day ago
+27
Poiliève is more of a Stephen Miller with a smudge of personality.
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tedsmitts1 day ago
+30
M. Poilievre has a personality, it's just an unpleasant one.
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TorontoMUFC1 day ago
+57
Im a relatively new Canadian. Left the UK in 2012 and became a Canadian Citizen in 2018.
Regardless of which party you vote for, the speeches that Trudeau made when leaving office and then subsequently those of Mark Carney made me feel so proud to be Canadian.
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Better-Strategy87981 day ago
+11
Yeah I didnt like trudeau in the end but I do respect how he left and give him props. I cant say many politicians would bow out like that.
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oompaloompa_grabber1 day ago
+28
Poilievre barely tries to hide how much he admires Trump, so he refused and refuses to take a firm stance against the American aggression. This was probably his biggest weakness in the last election.
One year later, we have the most experienced and competent PM probably in Canadian history, so Poilievre is even more neutered because he has absolutely no policies to suggest and no basis to argue against the government on. He honestly [makes it so easy for Carney to refute him](https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstories/what-s-he-ever-negotiated-carney-hits-back-at-poilievre-over-canada-us-trade/ar-AA21zEVZ) it’s comical.
Of course, despite this, a good chunk of the country will simply always vote Conservative no matter what.
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jam_pod_1 day ago
+6
Yeah it wasn’t exactly Trump being elected that sunk the Conservatives, it was Trudeau saying “this annexation threat is bigger than party politics, we all need to stand together”, and everyone, even Doug Ford, agreeing — except for Poilievre, who said “absolutely not, nothing is bigger than party politics, screw the Libs”
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EmptyHeadedKain1 day ago
+64
It's insane how much their meddling backfires, I mean look at Hungary lol
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Mispunt1 day ago
+22
I don't think the US made much of a difference in Hungary here.
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EmptyHeadedKain1 day ago
+44
Oh I'd agree that Orban was done anyway, but sending Vance over to do a big speech and then seeing it impact the results in the opposite way to to what they intended was pretty spot on for this administration.
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Mispunt1 day ago
+16
I do love the optics of it all. I'm glad he thought this would work.
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Elrundir1 day ago
+15
The floor crossings are absolutely at Poilievre's feet. He's the biggest dud of a leader the conservatives have ever had. I don't know why they're so keen to hitch themselves to his wagon but it suits me just fine since he's such a loser he couldn't even hold his own riding. The longer they lose, the better off Canada will be.
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BaboTron1 day ago
+40
PP won’t pivot, even now. That’s everything anyone should need to know about his attitude toward the greater good, public opinion, and duty. Even now, he refuses to admit he shit the bed.
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cvr241 day ago
+28
The whole party won't admit it, either. They just reconfirmed him at their annual convention. Instead of a healthy minority government, they handed the government a majority because they have no loyalty left.
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tranquilseafinally1 day ago
+16
The Conservative Party of Canada held that leadership convention in Calgary which is one of the most conservative cities in Canada. Only people who paid a fee and travelled there could vote. So he was only confirmed by the people in that room. I saw one recent poll that showed 53% of Conservatives want PP removed. That's pretty stunning.
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cvr241 day ago
+11
And worse, the delegates were whipped by their electoral district MPs to vote for a bunch of lobbyists for their national council. The delegates did not review the resumes of any of those candidates or even care, they just happily did as they were told. This was confirmed to me by a delegate. This was no convention, it was a corrupt self-stroking coronation.
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rantingathome1 day ago
+23
A leader that is unable to pivot when a campaign demands it, would become a Prime Minister unable to lead in a crisis situation. Poilievre proved himself incapable of doing the most important part of the job, and he continues to prove it.
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TheRC1351 day ago
+12
> Though that could be because of Pollieve, leader of the opposition.
It's all related.
All the polls had Poilievre and the CPC easily winning the last election. But when Trump started insulting and threatening Canada, Poilievre took several days to issue a *very* weak response. That pretty much killed his chances overnight, and he's been in an unrecoverable spiral ever since.
Trump has a mixed reputation within the CPC, but he's completely detested by Canadians of every other political persuasion.
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faceintheblue1 day ago
+24
>Though that could be because of Pollieve, leader of the opposition.
Who has thoroughly positioned himself as Trump's lapdog-in-waiting.
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KHonsou1 day ago
+12
The populist parties in the UK are polling high but the policies at at odds with the electorate. Labour have been so much better than the Tories, bar a few contentious issues that the media successfully make into wedges.
UK is at the mercy of social media. It's hard to see what could cause the populism to collapse like it did with the conservatives in Canada. Farages assosiation with Trump hasn't hurt polling, let alone being the poster-boy of Brexit that the general public have kinda forgot about (which is mind-blowing to me).
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h_abr1 day ago
+18
Reform’s numbers have been stagnant for a while, and have dropped from their peak. I think they’ve hit their ceiling. I find that most people I meet who support reform do so simply because “they’re something different” and don’t pay enough attention to politics to realise they’re not actually “something different” at all.
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zizou001 day ago
+10
Yeah, I'll never understand the thought that a party made up of a bunch of Tory rejects from the last Tory shitshow as being the party of "doing something different". It's the same f****** bottomfeeders as last time. How short the general public's memory is that they can fall for this con.
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petemorley1 day ago
+212
It’s quite impressive tbh.
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absat411 day ago
+134
Did this with Carney in Canada. The Right have collapsed here because of their tRump sychophancy.
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kroxigor011 day ago
+23
In Australia it's a bit weaker phenomenon, but I would say it did effect the election last year, allowing the centre left to coast to victory.
The centre right in Australia appears to have collapsed (to the benefit of the quite Trumpist far right).
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ICantBelieveItsNotEC1 day ago
+70
It seems like he just doesn't understand that his cult ends at his border.
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GenericUsername20561 day ago
+27
>It seems like he just doesn't understand ~~that his cult ends at his border~~.
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Nanowith1 day ago
+12
He's so surrounded with sycophants that he thinks the world loves him. That and he's clearly a raging narcissist.
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plastic_alloys1 day ago
+22
I hope potential Reform voters can see that Farage is more of the same shit. Keep demonic lifetime con artists away from power.
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Distinguished-1 day ago
+12
Your hope rests on the assumption that Reform voters have two brain cells to rub together.
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BaboTron1 day ago
+38
He’s done the same for Canada. We were (holds fingers up such that only one photon passes through the gap) thiiiiis close to electing someone that wants to be just like Trump. Ol’ fatass opened his mouth just in time, and swung the needle so far from the Conservative Party that they lost an historical lead in the polls that nobody thought could possibly happen.
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Regular_Number53771 day ago
+12
Right wing parties in Europe really don’t know where to look right now, their instinct is to kowtow to Trump but Trump keeps doing things like threatening to invade them, denigrating their war dead or trying to pull them into wars (sometimes all three).
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IntelArtiGen1 day ago
+1114
> punish Nato allies it believed failed to support its war on Iran.
(1) start a war and don't tell anyone (2) complain allies don't come to help (3) say you don't need their help anyway because you're winning (4) search for ways to punish them for not helping.
It's quite interesting how things have been going over the last months.
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noir_lord1 day ago
+505
Not to mention 5) NATO is a **defensive** treaty, there is no requirement to take part in illegal wars or offensive wars at all *by design*.
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Glad_Interest_91131 day ago
+243
And also worth mention
6) NATO only covers a very specific geographical area that does not include Iran. This provision was specifically made in large part due to US interests and because they did not want to have to fight foreign colonial wars.
-This can be seen in the Suez crisis, where the US did not show up
-This can be seen in Vietnam where the US only popped in after the French left and did not help before.
- And keeping it topical to the thread, this can be seen when the US did not show up for the Falklands.
So it's really even better. They want help in a war they would never help in, where they would use NATO to justify that inaction.
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pdirth1 day ago
+46
It was also why no other NATO country was involved in re-taking The Falklands despite 'another NATO country being attacked' and article 5. In fact help was so lacking that the UK had to threaten another NATO ally to stop them selling ship killing missiles to the Argentinians.
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Nabbylaa1 day ago
+19
>This can be seen in the Suez crisis, where the US did not show up
They didn't "not show up" they dictated UK foreign policy and crashed the Pound until we complied.
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okshowcase1 day ago
+174
Also insult dead NATO soldiers, threaten sovereignity of Greenland, Canada repeatedly, punish with trade wars and illegal tariffs.
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Evonyte1 day ago
+54
While we’re NATO allies, it’s not a NATO conflict as America and Israel are the aggressors and it’s taking place in a land where the NATO treaty doesn’t apply.
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KingsMountainView1 day ago
+21
Trump can't read so none of this means anything to him
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sampathsris1 day ago
+16
Russia getting it's money's worth
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Ramiren1 day ago
+101
All credibility the US had is gone, and I feel like Americans haven't quite realised it yet, especially those on the Left.
They think in a few years, they'll elect someone who isn't a dipshit and this will all go away. It won't, because Trump isn't the main problem here, the main problem is that every branch of the US government has just rolled over and allowed Trumps repeated abuses and crimes to happen unchallenged.
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Maytree1 day ago
+43
>All credibility the US had is gone, and I feel like Americans haven't quite realised it yet, especially those on the Left.
Dude. It's the Right that says things like "The rest of the world respects us now!". The Left is fully aware of how fucked US soft power is.
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beep_potato1 day ago
+18
The hard power isn't looking so good either.
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KingsMountainView1 day ago
+5
Oh so it is a war now!
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LittleSchwein12341 day ago
+2085
If it's true that Trump is considering endorsing Argentina's claims, the state visit should be cancelled immediately.
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Shield_of_glory1 day ago
+777
Should have been cancelled weeks ago.
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TotoCocoAndBeaks1 day ago
+195
Honestly, I have been expecting there to be some kind of Zelensky-style beratement, probably involving that chronic emasculate Vance.
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ICantBelieveItsNotEC1 day ago
+62
I'm sure that the palace have been briefing the entire royal family on how to handle a Trump meltie since the moment the Zelensky incident happened. They probably have an entire book of pre-planned scathing but dignified comebacks memorised.
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Killboypowerhed1 day ago
+59
Charles would eat him alive. I'm not fan but he's f****** sharp
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sami25031 day ago
+26
Against Starmer maybe but Charles no way. Trump loves the idea of royalty cos of the narcissist that he is.
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boringfantasy1 day ago
+82
He wouldn't dare go up against Charles lol
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miscfiles1 day ago
+66
*"Why aren't you wearing a* *~~suit~~* *crown?"*
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Mirar1 day ago
+9
That meeting would make Trump make a presidential crown.
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InfectedEllie1 day ago
+8
I think Charles should wear the royal crown if the visit still happens.
Then he can ask Donald "where's your crown, oh yeah you haven't got one"
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Heisenberg_2351 day ago
+18
Peasant!
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shredditorburnit1 day ago
+12
Just think what Andrew must have had to tell him to keep a roof over his head...
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ByteSizedGenius1 day ago
+394
This shouldn't be cancelling a procedural event territory. This is get your personnel, aircraft and all your other shit out the country by the end of the week. Stop the sharing of GCHQ and MI6 intel with the US.
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woopwoopscuttle1 day ago
+271
Kick Palantir out while we're at it please.
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Shitinmymouthmum1 day ago
+131
And start properly taxing all American companies like Google, Facebook and Twitter etc. No tax breaks no grants more regulations
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throwawaykayaker1 day ago
+28
Please please please do this.
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invinci1 day ago
+35
I am danish, and we are currently buying more palatir solutions, while trump is threatening Greenland, it is absolutely infuriating.
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DeadAnarchistPhil1 day ago
+6
I second that! Even if relations go back to normal, kick Palantir the f*** out of the UK, no matter where they’ve got their tentacles.
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Muay_Thai_Cat1 day ago
+90
We have already stopped sharing Intel as of a few weeks ago.
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NOT_EVEN_THAT_GUY1 day ago
+24
the american state should be cancelled immediately
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okshowcase1 day ago
+1013
US foreign policy is a joke, it's either stroke Trump's ego or be insulted threatened and punished. Nothing is subject to rules agreements or principles, everything is based on Trumps sensitive feelings.
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louiloui1521 day ago
+123
To be fair it’s “stroke trumps ego and get abused anyway”
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Stargazer1701d1 day ago
+41
Just look at the way he treats MAGA loyalists at home: red voters depend in greater numbers on the programs Trump and his flunkies are gutting. And I love that for them.
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SurroundTiny1 day ago
+134
I have to point out that all these memos and the ones about the Pope have come from the Pentagon. The negotiations with Iran have been handled by the VP. Our State Department and Marco Rubio have been MIA for months now
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caudatus671 day ago
+51
Which suits Rubio just fine. He doesn't want to be responsible for this shitshow
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Cream_Stay_Frothy1 day ago
+12
Agreed— I think his distance is calculated to try and preserve any future political career he would have, including a 2028 run. He *was* the closest thing resembling “normal” left in the GOP pigpen for presidential candidates.
I’m sure the number crunchers within the GOP have done the math and realized that Vance’s likability is on par with that of a wet sock, so they need to (yet again) try and reclaim their party from MAGA in order to maintain their power, or else they’re cooked beyond the midterms. I can’t really think of any new-ish Republicans that have made a name for themselves over the past decade outside of the MAGA henchmen that have been installed with a very short term goal in mind. The GOP politicians that get the most airtime all give off the energy like they’re on their vengeance tour from being picked on in middle school.
Unfortunately, the DNC is bought and nothing more than controlled opposition, but at least there seem to be a few progressive candidate who don’t seem to be part of the establishment who I hope can chip away at the old guard of the democrat party. If I’m looking for the silver lining of this administration, I’m hoping that their disasterous diplomacy, corruption and crimes allow for the political pendulum to swing further to the left, and opposition candidates from the progressive wing can gain enough power to actually get to policy reform that benefits the 99% of citizens, not the 1% hoarding half the wealth.
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Bupod1 day ago
+7
Have you tried looking under Trumps desk? He might be a little messy when you find him.
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iloovehugecock1 day ago
+18
Even when you do what he asks he doesn’t care and will bully you for some other perceived sleight not even moments later.
He is so transactional that you could have supported him for decades, done everything he ever asked, but if you aren’t supporting whatever twisted idea he’s obsessing over at that very moment then you may as well be dead to him and are now his worst enemy.
Appeasement never works isn’t just a saying. With someone like Trump it is 100% true.
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gibbsi1 day ago
+6
It's a mafia style racket and extortion
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Known_Limit_69041 day ago
+324
Get fucked you orange nonce
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Delicious-Captain4261 day ago
+35
I would love to see Keir Starmer calling runny bum Trump a nonce on national TV. It would probs take a week for him to even understand what it even means lol
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C0RDE_1 day ago
+34
Honestly, Starmer could turn his opinion polls around on the spot if he just off hand said "Jog on you orange nonce" during a press conference. Immediate 80-90% approval, at least for a week. Or alternatively, just the Raspberry, middle finger, "jog on" from Hot Fuzz.
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Delicious-Captain4261 day ago
+22
"No luck catching them nonces then?"
"It's just the one nonce, actually."
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ftzmdx22 hr ago
+6
Agree except that it should be the two fingered salute. Tradition and all that.
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Gentle_Snail1 day ago
+823
For context the Falklands had no indigenous population and its people have been living there since before places like Texas have existed.
They had a referendum on leaving the UK in 2013, 99.8% voted to remain. The islands already didn’t want to be Argentinian before the war, but the forceful invasion solidified it into their national identity in the same way Ukrainians don’t want to be Russian.
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knightsofgel1 day ago
+216
Actually Spanish Texas was founded in 1690 the same year the British also landed on the Falklands lol
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Global-Dare-60061 day ago
+269
That was 7 minutes later. The King famously texted the Spanish King on his satellite phone and called him slow.
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arg2k1 day ago
+37
it was an sms and if I remember correctly, it said "u slow lol"
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maple_story_1 day ago
+12
No, actually that's the revisionist version made up for modern diplomatic purposes.
Because sms charges were so obscene back then, the real content of the message had only 2 words: "git gud"
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Human-Syllabub-19231 day ago
+27
Yeah, but what month? What day? What time? 😂
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randompersonx1 day ago
+84
IMHO, if Argentina negotiated for the falklands peacefully instead of trying to take it by force, the British probably would have eventually agreed.
The course of action taken was the worst possible.
With that said, I visited Argentina last year, and there were posters about Las Islas Malvinas everywhere, in every part of the country I visited (I started in Ushuaia and made my way north to Buenos Aires). It’s clearly a very core belief of Argentinians.
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Gentle_Snail1 day ago
+124
Before the war Britain had actually been in talks to sell the islands to Argentina, but pulled out of the negotiations after the population objected and stated they wanted to remain British.
All Argentina had to do was win over the population, but by invading and then subsequently continuously treating the islanders like shit, they have just really hardened public opinion against them.
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77skull1 day ago
+70
Winning over the population is harder than you make it sound. The islanders speak English, are culturally and ethnically British, most will have family in the uk, and there’s a decent population of people who were born on the mainland and later moved to the Falklands.
There is really no reason for them to have wanted to be Argentinian, unless there was a bigger population of Argentina’s on the island before the war? Google says only about 10-20 people who live in the Falklands are Argentinian today
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BrunoEye1 day ago
+79
It's weird how they've created this alternative reality of theirs about these islands that have no cultural, economic or strategic significance. Talking about them is literally just a distraction by the government that most of the country seems to have fallen for.
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randompersonx1 day ago
+44
At this point, the government has changed over numerous times, and it's just become a core part of the nation's story -- not just owned by one particular political party.
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BrunoEye1 day ago
+28
Because it works for any party. It's something they can talk about to deflect from any of the actual issues the country is facing.
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ScottyBoneman1 day ago
+25
They are incredibly useful to be able to distract the Argentinian electorate.
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TheMightyMisanthrope1 day ago
+52
It's terrifying to imagine, being close to a place like Argentina and knowing they want to absorb you so you can experience hyper inflation as well.
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Seanspeed1 day ago
+48
The Falklands War kind of solidified the fact that Argentina is never getting those islands. I dont think the people there need to actually worry about much this these days on that front.
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shaolinoli1 day ago
+14
It’s not even particularly close. Maybe the 500 odd km would shield them
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AccountantPuzzled8441 day ago
+13
Nah man. They have no reason to worry. Argentina is a peaceful country. The only reason Argentina went into war back at the time, was because there was a f****** dictatorship in power.
Edit: US-supported dictatorship btw
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+8
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MagicPoirot681 day ago
+33
It was 3 people, and one did it as a joke
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Nico280gato1 day ago
+14
Iirc, one did it as a joke, one did it to piss off his wife, one did because he didnt want it to seem rigged with 100%
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CryptoThroway82051 day ago
+5
Did any penguins vote? Should probably ask the majority inhabitants.
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Dry_Construction49391 day ago
+155
I've seriously got to ask, does anyone know why Trump has such specific beef with the UK & Starmer not joining in on his "Deffo not a war, we've absolutely won it already, don't ask why it's still ongoing."?
Is he jealous of what Blair and Bush had? Is he just really upset that the country that symbolised empires & colonialism keeps leaving him on read? Does he just really want to be besties with Kier? Is it the wind farms???
It's getting very weird.
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lordnastrond1 day ago
+155
My take is he gets his foreign policy directly from the Kremlin and Russia has always been weirdly obsessed with the UK, hence the weekly threat of the UK being nuked on Russian media.
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Standin3731 day ago
+62
The Great Game is why Russia is still obsessed with the UK all these years
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Plaineswalker1 day ago
+21
Its because the Storm Shadows missiles from the UK are f****** up all of their oil refiners and they can't stop them.
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Low_Challenge_28271 day ago
+56
nothing weird about it. UK punches above its weight in terms of pretty much everything. also geographically, as the ice melts above Scotland there is a major new shipping route opening up for Russia (and Russia's quickest naval route to Europe). Putin has been trying to establish Russia in that area for years.
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__Atlas___1 day ago
+52
He was under the impression that America whistles and the UK comes running. Doesn’t help that Bush had more charisma in his pinky toe than Trump could muster over a 70 year period.
Primarily though, it’s that he’s shat the bed with the Iran war and was relying on NATO to come bail him out. As it is, he cannot find a politically sound exit without looking weak. His popularity is tanking so he is lashing out and looking to distract.
Fundamentally he doesn’t understand that America is the aggressor in this war so there are no mechanisms to draw NATO (a defensive pact) into play. He’s spent the past year insulting/threatening his allies so none of them are particularly interested in supporting him beyond their obligations.
Mr Trump might finally learn that words carry weight and spouting random shite may degrade relationships he previously underestimated the importance of.
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iCowboy1 day ago
+46
I suspect it's because he's the first President since Johnson where the UK hasn't been in a war alongside America.
President Johnson famously threw a tantrum when Harold Wilson refused to commit British troops to Vietnam and it poisoned relations between the countries for a number of years; Johnson being the only President since the War not to be offered a State Visit to the UK.
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Seanspeed1 day ago
+12
I doubt Trump knows anything about that.
Trump simply believes he's the king of the western hemisphere. That's really what it comes down to - the 'spheres of influence' type thinking, where because the US is the superpower in the west, that everybody there should be his subject, basically.
He also forms an instant, childish, petty grudge against anybody who tells him 'no' or criticizes him to any degree about anything.
Trump is not a complicated person folks. It's not that deep. This is a guy who makes up elementary school nicknames to insult people on Twitter. "Poopy pants Starmer is such a doo doo head!"
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jimjamjahaa1 day ago
+12
Imo, it is because trump has had a long relationship with putin, and likely has been groomed to see the world from his point of view. Which is that NATO is the American empire in disguise and the UK is an American vassal state. And now he's acting as if that was true. Maybe a hot take idk.
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kuroyume_cl1 day ago
+8
another factor in this is that Argentina's Milei is Trump's lapdog. This both punishing Starmer and rewarding Milei.
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SawToothKernel1 day ago
+4
He's just very childish. He doesn't know how to have a relationship with anyone where he's not the completely dominant one. It's why he never smiles, because that would be showing that he thinks the other person is worthy of his smile, and is therefore an equal (or more) to himself.
Ultimately, it's a projection of weakness and insecurity.
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Agreeable_Falcon10441 day ago
+178
Need to stand up to the bully...no use of our bases in the Middle East/Indian Ocean or our airspace.
This week, alongside more relaxation on Russian sanctions, we have seen Spain, Denmark, UK and Türkiye (all NATO members!) threatened.
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denyer-no1-fan1 day ago
+76
The King's visit needs to be cancelled immediately.
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kimniels1 day ago
+16
Were we (Denmark) threatend again this week?? Didn’t even notice.
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Agreeable_Falcon10441 day ago
+10
After a while you stop caring lol. Just looking for a reason to end NATO for his Kremlin boss.
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ASOG_Recruiter1 day ago
+141
UK should review Guam, PR, and the Virgin Islands. That would be fun
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Dragonfly_pin1 day ago
+57
Hawai’i also.
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Myrddinpn1 day ago
+32
Just a funny note about the Virgin Islands, the US got them from Denmark in 1916. The US wanted them for strategic reasons, having to do with the Panama Canal. The truly ironic thing is that as part of the treaty, the US confirmed that Denmark had sovereignty over Greenland. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty\_of\_the\_Danish\_West\_Indies](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_the_Danish_West_Indies)
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ToffeeAppleCider1 day ago
+70
Wasn't expecting to have the US as an enemy in such a short space of time, but it's leading up to it.
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ComfortablyMild1 day ago
+14
The US foreign policy is aggravate, force or invade. I'm surprised the rest of the world hasn't just embargoed them. A united world with a clear list of increasing sanctions could box in Trump.
Make it law to have contracts with the US breach-able with a massive out clause if the US attacks another nation. Money speaks.
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wild1821 day ago
+8
Its weird how the western world always seems to have seen China and Russia as their biggest threats. In a short space of time, the US has become a top contender. I actually think i would trust China more than the US right now.
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Gummyrabbit1 day ago
+42
The UK should review the claim that Trump won the 2025 election.
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OldLondon1 day ago
+20
WHO GAF what the US says. It’s the same these days as “the Kremlin said…” it’s just noise and childish babbling
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badger9061 day ago
+21
The US has 13 air bases in the uk. Vital to its forward position in a future war. I have no idea why the uk government just doesn’t publicly say
“Shut up you giant orange pedo, if you don’t shut that Big Mac hole in your face, your bases are gone, good luck with the 5000 mile flights to Europe”
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Ferrymansobol1 day ago
+4
It is much worse than that. The "listening station" at RAF Menwith Hill is probably one of the most sensitive US sites in the UK and 1 of only 3 such sites in the world run by the US (the others are in Australia and the US itself). It is both an NSA and DOD site and all of the agreements about its use have been classified since 1951.
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zippyzebra11 day ago
+20
Who gives a flying f*** what the yanks think
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Professional-Ad38741 day ago
+9
Agreed. It should only matter what people who live on the Falkland islands think, and I'm pretty sure they want to be with the UK.
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stinkybumbum1 day ago
+18
Trump and his moronic followers need to f-off back to the stone age.
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Healthylife551 day ago
+108
the US reviewing falklands sovereignty is genuinely one of the dumbest diplomatic moves this year.
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Ryakuya1 day ago
+29
Dumber than bombig Iran and tariffs?
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SP15701 day ago
+19
Indeed... you don't get to do any market manipulation and insider trading out of Falklands
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Ill_Conversation61451 day ago
+17
It's like the entire US state apparatus has been replaced with Trump's ego.
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Environmental-Net2861 day ago
+344
It pains me as an Irishman to support Britain
But Argentina's claim to the Falklands is bullshit
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lordnacho6661 day ago
+189
Pretty simple really. The people on the island want to be part of Britain. If they wanted to be Argentinean or any other nationality, I would support that too.
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Gentle_Snail1 day ago
+165
Thats been Britains consistent long term position. Before the war they were in talks to sell the islands to Argentina, but pulled out of the negotiations after the population objected and stated they wanted to remain British.
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Few-Hair-53821 day ago
+93
Thatcher's government apparently considered giving each islander a million pounds to accept Argentinian sovereignty, calculating to do so would be cheaper than the long term defence of the islands. But then the Argentinians invaded and defence of the islands (which few people in Britain were priorly aware of) became a matter of essential patriotism, which it remains.
Argentina royally fucked this one up, and they really need to get over their bogus imperialist claims.
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thoughtsarefalse1 day ago
+49
Self determination at its finest.
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FunIcy61541 day ago
+9
Irish support for 'Las Malvinas' makes literally no sense. The only claim that Argentina has is 'location', using that logic we have a right to Ireland.
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RobotsVsLions1 day ago
+31
I'm British, but with strong Irish lineage, so my relationship to my home country is complicated to say the least. This is one issue that will actually trigger my jingoistic patriotism for Britain, it's so incredibly clear cut who the rightful owners are, that there's no possible justification for their claims with any measure of truth behind it other than "they want the oil", (so tbf, it's not actually that surprising to see the US taking argentinas side).
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zirky1 day ago
+16
leave it to trump to actually unite the kingdom
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Ziazan1 day ago
+29
By their logic, the US should give Alaska to Canada or back to Russia.
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digital_pimp1 day ago
+49
"UK Public says Trump "is a bit of an orange nonce" after report of US 'review' of Falklands"
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TheHeroHartmut1 day ago
+7
Oh, you English and your penchant for the understatement.
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BlitzWing19851 day ago
+23
Trumps is just big mad we had a military operation done and dusted in 10 weeks.
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SpatulaWholesale1 day ago
+26
Even with a change of administration, it's going to take a very long time for the US to rebuild its relationships with its long-term strategic and trading partners.
It's just such and unfortunate and unnecessary clusterfuck.
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pinewind1081 day ago
+13
If trump tries to suck up to Argentina over this, the UK should release *all* the details about how the US helped the UK during the war.
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Particular_Force10411 day ago
+55
The US is the greatest threat to the world today. At this rate it won’t be long before it’s considered a pariah state.
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st8ic881 day ago
+10
Trump is such a pathetic, petty, limp-d*** piece of shit.
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VagueSomething1 day ago
+17
This won't go down well with the American political stooges in the UK. Farage and Badenoch will absolutely gain hate from voters for supporting Trump.
Looks like Trump has forced his friends to lose Hungary, Canada and maybe soon the UK. I know his Italian lap dog is doing a U turn on being pro Trump as her numbers slumped.
Almost a century of power destroyed in a year. An entire decade of work by Trump's friends like Epstein to replace democracy with a shady Elite system already starting to fail as Trump is too stupid to hold onto the power given to him.
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denyer-no1-fan1 day ago
+30
King Charles is going to visit him next week...unless that visit is cancelled statements like this don't mean much
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pafagaukurinn1 day ago
+14
Unless the visit is cancelled, visits like this don't mean much.
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Intruder3131 day ago
+39
No need for this to be reviewed or discussed ever again, let alone annually: Argentina has no claim at all and the British residents overwhelmingly vote to remain British (all except one person I believe).
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Milk_man19691 day ago
+6
And he voted that way as a joke, so I heard.
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damn_dude71 day ago
+7
Falkoff
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old_witness_9871 day ago
+9
isnt it time starmer announced a review of american independance, i think he would have 30-40 of the US voters behind him, if the intelligence service could get an unredacted copy of the epstein files he could go ahead with it.
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PM_THE_REAPER1 day ago
+20
The US can review whatever it likes and then immediately bugger off, regardless of their review findings.
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Mansplainer1011 day ago
+11
Please UK: Review the young nation's claim on New Mexico.
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Tsquare431 day ago
+6
*Whoa Smithers, what's this about a NEW Mexico?*
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ElephantOk47151 day ago
+12
I hate this administration so much. We’re burning all our important alliances to the ground and in return we’re getting f****** Argentina and Israel🙃🔫
Everyone in this admin should rot in prison and have all their assets seized and given to the victims of their buddy Epstein
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No-Amount-4931 day ago
+8
I feel genuinely sorry for the sane Americans. Your "leader" is tarnishing your country for generations. The damage to the US will be huge.
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ash_ninetyone1 day ago
+35
My guess he found out there's oil around the Falklands so he's either gonna try and play silly buggers with us trying to get a deal in his favour, or he'll be going to Argentina with a "we'll support your sovereignty claim if you give us oil rights"
This is a guy who will step on "friends" to climb a ladder.
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Dragonfly_pin1 day ago
+10
He’s probably a couple of weeks away from claiming Scotland as well.
He owns land there, it’s located in the Western hemisphere and has oil and yesterday Trump said he is the one who gets to speak for the UK on Ukraine policy, so…
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BingoLuck1 day ago
+6
So, US foreign policy now appears to be based on a thin skinned tangerine man's spite.
Honestly, who in the world ever looked at this guy and thought, "yep, that stupid man-baby is president material"?
I can't believe we still have another 1000 days of this idiot
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Doogie1x131 day ago
+6
Nah, the orange globe probably has seen the latest confidential reports on the expected amount of oil to be found in the seas around the Falkland islands.
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mountearl1 day ago
+15
During an actual war to recover Her Majesty's sovereignty over the Falklands, the US was luke warm at best and occasionally actively hostile to the UK. Now that the question has been decisively settled - that our ragtag army, Royal Navy and Royal Air Force can project power in the South Atlantic way beyond our expected capability - who gives a shit what Trump and Hegseth think?
And if they believe Argentina and their own lunatic president should be given the Falklands, just hand over the British Indian Ocean Territory immediatly to Mauritious.
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Euronated-inmypants1 day ago
+10
Oh look the US doing the wrong thing again. What a surprise.
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nosaj6261 day ago
+4
Is the pedophile pissbaby throwing a fit because NATO refused to help with his moronic war?
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No_Onion52971 day ago
+6
Uhh...
Ok..
Cool
You do that Mr Trump
Have fun
Btw, while you're at it
Could you maybe tell us why we're ment to care about this exactly???
🤨
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ToothessGibbon1 day ago
+5
I think the UK should review Hawaii
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andoryu1231 day ago
+8
Would you want to be aligned with Argentina or UK. Easy question.
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Qazernion1 day ago
+7
Can we ‘review US independence’?
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sewand7171 day ago
+5
This report doesn’t seem to have much evidence behind it. But, Trump does have an uncanny ability to trade strong alliances for weak.
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Mewhomewhy1 day ago
+4
Trump is desperate to start a huge war. The guy is a dangerous moron.
As long as it’s not with China or Russia though because he shit his pants and ran away from Russia and China just clamped him in the strait.
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