Noah Hawley says his ‘Far Cry’ series won’t be adapting any of the games as he thinks audiences skip the story cutscenes in those games: “When you play a video game, you only really move forward through the gameplay section, and then you have these cut scenes that you can skip..."
Noah Hawley, known for Alien: Earth and Fargo, will be showrunner for this year's Far Cry TV Adaptation.
>“I’m not specifically adapting any of the games that they’ve put out – I’m saying much as I did with the Coens or X-Men \[he created FX’s Legion\] or Alien, ‘Let me have a dialog with this franchise, because this is what I think a Far Cry story is.’ We can have a larger conversation about the strengths and weaknesses of adapting video games specifically because games are built in a way that doesn’t make for the best drama.
>**“When you play a video game, you only really move forward through the gameplay section, and then you have these cut scenes that you can skip, so when you go to adapt those games you have to be aware that makes the human drama kind of irrelevant to the storyline. That is death for a show.”**
yeah this is a crazy thing to say. especially for far cry. they made a whole series of webisodes for far cry cause people liked vas so much. insane
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OniExpress1 day ago
+99
Absolutely bonkers for a storyteller to say that people dont care about the story-telling part. Convinces me he doesnt even understand the medium he's adapting from.
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Space_Pirate_Roberts1 day ago
+9
Yeah, I’m a big fan of his and not at all of the Far Cry games, so I’ll be judging this show purely on its own merits rather than as an adaptation… but even so, this take is concerning.
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OniExpress22 hr ago
+5
I think the most concerning part is the trend that the more vocal a director is about not carrying over from the source material is the worse the product is in general let alone for fans of the source
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Exes_And_Excess1 day ago
+71
If so many people skip the cut scenes for these games, why wouldn't they just skip your whole f****** movie then lol like why even bother making it if that's your take?
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marmot_scholar1 day ago
+25
Because he’s using the flayed skin of the IP to tell a story he otherwise wouldn’t get the funding for. The exact same thing he did with Alien Earth. He doesn’t even think of it as a far cry project for far cry fans. It’s “hbo action show” and corporate is making him use the far cry logo to increase the interest of some incremental percentage of extra fans. He probably lets the marketing guys worry about that.
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Exes_And_Excess1 day ago
+14
Then the question is "Why open your mouth and admit you and the people who hired you don't give a shit?"
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Least1Difficulty1 day ago
+4
How did this guy say that in front of a bunch of professionals who claim to understand their audience, get them to agree with him and then hire him? How!? Like does anyone in Hollywood actually watch movies or play video games?
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munkyninaleela1 day ago
+5
Did I ever tell you what the definition of insanity is?…
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method1151 day ago
+7
Yea especially the first game had a great story.
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CptDecaf1 day ago
+14
What? The first Far Cry is almost a parody.
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Bongressman1 day ago
+6
And parodies... are not good stories?
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MalIntenet1 day ago
+1764
What kind of monster skips cutscenes on their first campaign play through??
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Sloppykrab1 day ago
+406
This guy apparently.
I'll admit, I do skip some cutscenes in some games but they are mainly MMOs.
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littlebrwnrobot1 day ago
+94
man like 90% of the cutscenes in ffxiv can be skipped but that 1 out of 10 has some epic shit go down and if you miss it then you'll have absolutely no idea what's happening after that
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ThreeEyedCrow11 day ago
+73
You absolutely cannot skip 90% of the cutscenes in XIV if you want to make any sense of the story lol. *Maybe* 40%, and midway through ARR, you should have a sense of what those cutscenes are pretty immediately.
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Syiuu21 hr ago
+15
When you hear *Machinations* you can skip the cutscene lol
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darklightmatter21 hr ago
+19
No way you chose the one MMO that's more story-driven than an MMO. Prime ragebait for sure, I'm impressed.
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RunninOnMT1 day ago
+15
Honestly, I don’t think any of us should feel bad about this. Some types of gameplay lend themselves naturally to storytelling
However, many popular game types are quite frankly kind of awkward as storytelling vessels.
“I just killed a hundred guys and tanked 30-40 bullets. Now I’m watching a cutscene where someone is threatening me with a gun. I just tanked 30-40 bullets, why is my guy acting scared?”
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niccolus12 hr ago
+5
Please play Far Cry 3 or 5 and revisit this for the Far Cry fans. Just 20 minutes of each will do.
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New-Independent-148122 hr ago
+4
Regardless of how you want to justify it, it's basically the equivalent on doomscrolling on your while watching a show.
Sure it doesn't matter if it's reality TV or whatever, but for shows that actually care about the story you're obviously going to miss a huge part of the experience.
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sbrockLee1 day ago
+55
My five year old. He plays Lego games and can't read well yet.
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KaleidoscopePlusPlus1 day ago
+38
This Noah guy has a lot in common with him
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dejv91315 hr ago
+2
I still think the LEGO games were best when they had no dialog
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s0ulbrother1 day ago
+33
My wife. Drives me insane.
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UrsusRex011 day ago
+15
To be fair that highly depends on the game.
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canehdian_guy12 hr ago
+5
And how much time you have. The acting and writing in **good** movies / TV series far surpasses video games. If you have to pick between the 2, it's hard to choose video games storylines.
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Durlek1 day ago
+21
When the writing is so slop you want to get past it.
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pereza01 day ago
+13
Amen, far cry 6 was often begging to be skipped
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Yes-I-Cannabis1 day ago
+28
What kind of FILMMAKER?! How can you claim to be a creative and then skip the creative elements of a thing most applicable to what you do in your own work?
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Pnex841 day ago
+9
I dont skip cutscenes but I will skip lines of dialog like mofo if they let you.
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Oerwinde12 hr ago
+3
I do it because I read the lines faster than they speak it.
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MrBorden1 day ago
+26
Playing any kind of videogame without the important context provided by cutscenes is absolute melt behaviour and you might as well have not bothered to have played it in the first place and just watch the highlights on YouTube.
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TheJuicyDanglers1 day ago
+21
There are some games where the writing is awful but the gameplay is fun so I would skip cutscenes / have a podcast on while playing. Borderlands 3 comes to mind.
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brontosaurusguy1 day ago
+8
Like... far cry
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future_shoes1 day ago
+14
I think what he is saying is that the driving force of the game is the interactive gameplay and the cutscenes are very much secondary. Grear games are great because of great concepts and gameplay not cutscenes. For a movie or tv show the "cutscenes" are the whole thing. So the mistake is people taking the weakest part of a game, the cutscenes, and making it a show, instead of making a compelling original story that leans into the concepts and universe of the game.
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hunterdavid3721 day ago
+2035
I agree with not adapting a specific game, those stories have been told, arguably in the best way they can be.
I do not agree with him saying Far Cry is a series tou just skip the cutscenes of, THAT shows a distinct lack of understanding about the series and makes me worry for the series
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popcorn381 day ago
+474
My thoughts exactly. Fallout worked well since they didn't adapt a specific game (though they are retreading New Vegas under a different context). Assuming everyone skips the cutscenes is a crazy thing to say though
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DetectiveAmes1 day ago
+98
I think 5 would be great for an adaptation, but I feel like it might get too much blowback or Hawley might feel it treads too close to the old Fargo series he did.
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Pulse991 day ago
+31
I think something set in Hope County would be a perfect fit for Hawley’s style but it would be tough to set a story there without doing 5 as a whole.
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goddamnitwhalen1 day ago
+9
Could easily do a prequel to 5 that sets up the events, no?
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WilliamEmmerson1 day ago
+9
There is already a 30 min short for that called Far Cry 5: Inside Eden's Gate. It stars Kyle Gallner.
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Pulse991 day ago
+12
If it were up to me (and it’s probably for the best that it isn’t), I think the story of Joseph Seed forming Eden’s Gate in Georgia and being run out of town to Hope County would be great. The voicemail at the end of the Collapse DLC alone hints at some pretty heavy stuff that happened around that time.
But that being said, I’m a massive sucker for FC5 and I suppose I have to have faith Hawley or someone on his team will make the right call in the end.
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goddamnitwhalen1 day ago
+10
I love FC5 (I lived in a small Northern California town that is heavily influenced by an evangelical megachurch / cult that was very reminiscent of Eden’s Gate), but I also have to acknowledge how deeply silly of a game it is.
It’s also the only one I’ve played, lol.
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claremontmiller1 day ago
+12
How’s Redding these days?
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goddamnitwhalen1 day ago
+4
Damn! It was that obvious?
I haven’t lived there in almost 4 years, but last time I was there it didn’t seem to have changed all that much.
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claremontmiller1 day ago
+9
I mean, if you’ve ever been there, yeah?
It’s a nice town except for, you know, the cult
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30InchSpare1 day ago
+4
5 is great but I’d want an island setting for the first season, it wouldn’t feel right without it.
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ncopp1 day ago
+21
>though they are retreading New Vegas under a different context
They've kind of mixed a lot of the games together which is cool.
Lucy is essentially the FO3 protag who grew up in a vault and left to find her father
The Ghoul is the FO4 protag who is a pre-war father searching for his family
Maximus is more of an original storyline (unless there's stuff in tactics that its adapting)
Then the setting is NV which puts these protags into the the house, NCR, and Legion storylines
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ReefaManiack42o1 day ago
+13
Both Jonathan Nolan and Todd Howard have said that with the TV series the goal was to make it a sort of an unofficial FO5. Jonathan worked with Todd and Bethesda staff to make sure the lore would be 100% accurate, so for the fans of the series they are essentially learning a lot of stuff that had only been eluded to in the games. For instance, in the show, they finally showed who the President of the United States was during bombing,. They also showed that Deathclaws were created before the bombs were dropped.
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tfhermobwoayway23 hr ago
+6
The Deathclaw thing was known as far back as the isometric games, I’m pretty sure. And although it’s a decent show I’m not a fan of the show revealing a load of stuff that doesn’t need revealing. It feels like they’re building up to revealing who dropped the bombs, while a central theme of the original games is that this is totally irrelevant.
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bucketman19861 day ago
+55
Yeah but Fallout has a world. A distinct setting. Far Cry not so much
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LitBastard1 day ago
+23
There have been 5 Mainline Far Cry games that all have a distinct setting. Then there is Primal
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ironwolf11 day ago
+16
Far Cry is more of a distinct vibe than a distinct setting. Lawless region with a charismatic but ruthless leader at its heart, with a lot of exploration of how brutality and violence affect the human psyche. Compare that to something like Fallout, which is very specifically “remnants of a retrofuturist 1950s America after a nuclear war”. Far Cry can and has been set in many different locations and cultures, where Fallout is always set somewhere in the same post-nuclear-war America.
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bucketman19861 day ago
+17
I forgot about Primal! Honestly a Blood Dragon show would rock.
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UDPviper1 day ago
+3
Yeah, especially when the game makers make them unskippable.
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Charlaquin1 day ago
+69
I don’t think he’s actually saying it’s a series you skip the cutscenes of. He’s saying that the stories of the games are told by sections of gameplay punctuated by “cutscenes you can skip.” He’s not commenting on the importance of those cutscenes in experiencing the story, he’s noting (accurately) that the player has the option to skip the cutscenes, and so the story must mainly be told through action and environmental design rather than through interpersonal character drama.
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chuckluckles1 day ago
+105
As someone playing far cry 4 right now, you can't actually skip the cutscenes lol
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forumaccount1 day ago
+24
First thing I thought, too. I think Primal was the only one they were skippable.
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Charlaquin1 day ago
+5
Fair
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SuperTeamRyan1 day ago
+9
I think outside the intros and endings all far cry cutscenes are in engine so not even really a cut scene.
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Odinsmana1 day ago
+6
Some games do that, but Far Cry does not really do that though. Those stories are 95% cutscenes. The gameplay rarely add tot he story. So if that is his meaning it feels like he has played or watched the games.
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opermonkey1 day ago
+40
why the f*** not just say "weve already seen those stories, what we're doing is creating a new story with the same vibe and feel" or something? fuckin muppet.
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Jmacq11 day ago
+11
Far Cry doesn't exactly have the deepest or most inscrutable themes to try to unpack. They're all basically "He who fights monsters, etc...."
I mean at this point we don't even know if the show is doing "Later games heightened reality" Far Cry or "early games sci-fi" Far Cry where you can mutate into a literal monster.
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ako191 day ago
+12
Someone who knows what they’re doing could do 3, which was a white-savior deconstruction.
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CrimsonDessert1 day ago
+4
Jason Brody, the first man in gaming to culturally appropriate a skill tree
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Salvage5701 day ago
+6
I feel like 3 and 4 were the only ones with cutscenes that are too good to skip, and 4 has quite a few i wouldn't have minded skipping
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Puzzle-Necked1 day ago
+3
"... Can I go back to driving exploding cars now?"
- Me listening to the bad guy in 5 talking about murdering his newborn baby
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Pkock1 day ago
+9
Of all games to say it about, Farcry 4 quite famously has a scene where if you actually listen to it and follow the instructions you just beat the game and it ends early.
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Puzzle-Necked1 day ago
+3
So did 5. Wish I had known before wasting my time
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mjtwelve1 day ago
+4
1 and 2, for sure skip. For 3, skipping the cutscenes would be the definition of insanity. For 4, how can you skip Pagan Min borrowing a twenty as ID
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Eargoe1 day ago
+3
Seriously, who would skip Vaas?!
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tinywienergang1 day ago
+2
There’s no point in adapting an existing story that already has like 40-120 hours of gameplay. Especially since the game series is about to take a massive hit in quality.
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Spiral-Force1 day ago
+686
Oof that’s like the worst possible thing he could’ve said to get game fans on board
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Ok_Basil3511 day ago
+257
It's wild to me how many writers will sign on to a project and then immediately do an interview where they brag about how much they don't care about the source material.
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Emm_withoutha_L-881 day ago
+50
Cus their head is up their own ass so far that they are certain that their untested ideas are far better than the popular series they're adapting is.
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Gideon_Laier1 day ago
+27
Netflix's version of The Witcher...
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Silver-End95701 day ago
+20
Because he doesn't care. Alien: Earth shows that he doesn't care about franchise legacy. He just wants that bag.
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welltherewasthisbear1 day ago
+43
No, the worst he could have said is that after the amazing movie that Uwe Boll first directed, he would return to direct every episode of the series.
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TonyBeFunny1 day ago
+2
Wasnt Anthony Bourdain in that?
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Thee-Cat1 day ago
+46
It's funny, I'm literally completely ignorant of what product or vide game he's even talking about. But just logically speaking, even I cringed at that headline. It's so incoherent to an adaptation of literally anything.
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Jackalodeath1 day ago
+33
"We're making a new show based on an extremely popular book series, but I know nobody actually reads anymore so we're just writing them from the cover art alone."
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wallabee_kingpin_1 day ago
+17
It's as bad as when Kathleen Kennedy said there's no Star Wars material to adapt into movies other than the six Lucas films
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Emm_withoutha_L-881 day ago
+8
Pretty sure she said that while Rise of Skywalker was being made. A movie that's just a really really really bad adaptation of Dark Empire, a heavily disliked comic from the early 90s.
How people can get so excited to defend her SW work I'll never understand.
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ILoveRegenHealth17 hr ago
+2
Even Zach Creggar, while admitting he is making his own Resident Evil story, at least assured gamers he's trying to keep the spirit/feel of the games (which he has played endlessly backwards and forwards). He's not crapping on the gamers and understands the reverence for the material he's working with, but he's also going for his own spin which most are cool with since his two previous films also played on "surprise plot structures".
Here, Noah Hawley is like "These veeedeo games, who even watches the cutscenes. I'm ignoring it all, ignore all the stories I don't care. Gonna do my thaang" makes him sound like an arrogant dumb cowboy.
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Insanity19941 day ago
+358
You what mate
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koalamurderbear1 day ago
+59
I know, this quote is gamer heresy
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0masterdebater01 day ago
+21
Especially Far Cry, without the cutscenes, every Far Cry game is basically the same.
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WilliamEmmerson1 day ago
+24
It's such an arrogant remark
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n0tAgOat1 day ago
+9
I used to really respect Noah Hawley after his work on Fargo, but after Alien Earth, I don’t trust him at all.
How you can go from one to the other is mind-boggling.
Alien Earth is what happens when you don’t respect the source material at all, so this comment doesn’t really forebode well.
We’ll see.
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ILoveRegenHealth16 hr ago
+3
And even if he did respect the source material, the acting, writing and story just ain't there. Characters do so many stupid things that make you go "Oh cmon!"
Is wasn't even scary or thought-provoking. We see >!Weyland Yutani Headquarters!< but barely learn much about it or even get to see more of the building!
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Insanity19941 day ago
+4
I was excited for Alien Earth but after hearing all the bad talk I never bothered. Seems like a lot of dumb shit story wise.
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n0tAgOat1 day ago
+7
It’s beyond stupid. Somehow I ended up finishing the first season, but I’m completely out on season two.
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darkbloo641 day ago
+187
Okay, but... *What* exactly is he adapting?
Far Cry isn't like Fallout with its longstanding world building with aesthetics, factions, events, and creatures. Story aside, the connecting thread of the Far Cry games is gameplay, like tower climbing and camps, which I don't expect would work in a non-interactive medium.
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splinter15451 day ago
+66
Far Cry is just a loosely connected anthology game type game when it comes to narrative. Some person being really far from home (hence the name) putting himself in a predicament. Far Cry 1 was military experiments and aliens, Fra Cry 2 was an African civil war as a merc, and 3-6 is basically just fighting for freedom against the villain that controls everything.
It's not a franchise that requires much thought put into it, hence why Ubisoft basically used the same plot 4 times.
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Raket0st1 day ago
+45
I'd argue that the thematically connective tissue of every game since 2 is the proverb "he who fights monsters must be wary, lest he becomes a monster himself". They all explore the idea of how using violence for a good cause can easily transform someone into the same violent monster you swore to stop.
Whether it is Jason fighting to free his friends and instead getting a rush from the power, Ajay being forced to back extremists to stop a dictator, Rook destroying Hope County in the process of stopping the PEG or Dani realizing that revolution has a high price. All of them engages with the theme that violence seems like a good tool but turns out to be a fickle, often self-destructive mistress. That several of them have hidden, golden endings achieved by doing nothing or actively leaving really drives that home.
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whyliepornaccount1 day ago
+19
Far Cry 4's hidden ending will always be the best for me. Just do exactly what you're told to do, then immediately achieve your mission's goal.
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korelin1 day ago
+5
mmm crab rangoon
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vadergeek1 day ago
+3
> I'd argue that the thematically connective tissue of every game since 2 is the proverb "he who fights monsters must be wary, lest he becomes a monster himself".
3, yes. 4, maybe. 5 and 6 I don't see it at all. The PEG are pretty flatly evil, Rook isn't even a character in any meaningful way, I don't think there's anything monstrous with Dani.
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Hazel-Cakes1 day ago
+3
i wish they’d remaster farcy 2 (technically 4?), game was peak
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skylinenick1 day ago
+36
I’d say the thread of most Far Cry games has been “once you go this far to stop the monster, are you now the monster?” Which certainly is a concept that can be explored various ways
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Pokii1 day ago
+37
Is it? Never knew that, I always just skip through the cutscenes >!/s!<
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kblkbl1651 day ago
+6
I feel like that’s only a thread if you start from the game with Vaas.
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CrimsonDessert1 day ago
+3
Far Cry 2 let's you choose a character and most are already pretty sketchy at the beginning. Every Far Cry game after 3 (the one with Vass) just kept trying to be the one with an even Vassier Vass to varying degrees of success.
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MaskedPapillon1 day ago
+9
Which this shows perfectly how your message can screw things up so easily.
If the dude said "we won't use any of the game's plots because we don't believe they would work well as a television series, since we can't exactly rely on the interactive action that the games are known for" instead of "you can skip cutscenes in the game, so the story isn't that important enough for us to adapt any of it", the backlash would be significantly smaller.
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tylerthe-theatre1 day ago
+9
Yeah its a hard sell as a generic action story on an island/jungle setting with some callback, not quite sure of the appeal to game fans. It's gonna be like Halo all over, and that did mostly follow the stories.
Its even worse cos the games have some iconic villains.
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TJTrapJesus1 day ago
+2
"Yeah its a hard sell as a generic action story on an island/jungle setting with some callback"
I think this is kind of the issue with most video game adaptations. There are of course exceptions, but so many games when you lay it all out are often very generic story-wise, and what makes them great is that it's you actually playing through it. I think Uncharted is the classic example of it, it's basically adapting an Indiana Jones type of adventure into a video game, so when you adapt it "back" into a movie, there really isn't that much meat there. Far Cry is similar in that you can see it wearing its influences on its sleeve, so it's tough to follow along with any of the individual game's stories and make it feel like something unique.
Honestly, I don't hate this idea of just looking to capture the general vibe of the games. It looks like Cregger's Resident Evil is looking to do something similar.
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NativeMasshole1 day ago
+3
My thoughts exactly. This is just branding. There's nothing unique here that they couldn't slap any title on it. Coming right out and basically saying that is a bold move, though.
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Nikiaf1 day ago
+15
I mean, maybe for Far Cry 1 which was really just a glorified tech demo, but the Ubisoft installments have an actual story to them. 2 and 3 were particularly well-written; ignoring them essentially cuts this off from the source material.
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thegloriousporpoise1 day ago
+47
Did I ever tell you the definition of insanity?
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Dragonhost2521 day ago
+11
Yes, but tell me again, it might be different
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Aplicacion1 day ago
+61
Well, shit.
>Noah Hawley says his ‘Far Cry’ series won’t be adapting any of the games as he thinks audiences skip the story cutscenes in those games
He absolutely did not say that and the body of this very post makes that clear. I don't know if this was the original title of the Deadline article (it isn't now) or if OP decided on this title, but the well is poisoned now.
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CrimsonDessert1 day ago
+13
It's manufactured outrage because he wrote an article about Jeff Bezos's house a few days ago
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MPFuzz1 day ago
+13
Given that he has written two of the best seasons of telivison in existence (Fargo 1 and 2). I'll always give him a fair shake for anything he makes.
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Aplicacion1 day ago
+3
Exactly because of that, I’d be willing to give him a fair shake even if he had said some stupid shit like this. But he didn’t, so that’s even better!
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Gregistopal1 day ago
+136
THis man shouldnt be anywhere near a video game adaptation
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Aggressive-Owl20431 day ago
+48
I like Noah Hawley, but I don't get why he keeps adapting stuff. He always clearly wants to make his own stuff, which is cool! But then make your own stuff.
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Jops8171 day ago
+34
It really seemed like Alien: Earth was he wanted to write his own sci-fi story with his own aliens but needed to piggyback on the Xenomorph to make it happen (probably in terms of funding and getting picked up by a studio)
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IrnBroski1 day ago
+14
Yes that’s 100% what I felt , the alien universe shoehorned into a story about kids being turned into killer cyborgs. It wasn’t a bad story but calling it Alien: was a bit misleading
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jedre1 day ago
+19
Prepare for a really heavy handed, overt soundtrack.
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occono1 day ago
+5
Actually it really is terrible they won't be using the Far Cry 5 soundtrack apparently. The music budget on that game was *insane*. There's a gameplay score album, three original songs albums, another gameplay score album for arcade, three more for the DLCs, and an score for the prequel life action film.
And unreleased tracks like the surf rock cover of E1M1, "the world is going to end tonight" from the end, and there's that Ballad Nixon song....
.....wait let's backtrack. Those three original song albums, the ones by Dan Romer and Hammock and a choir and other collaborators. I mentioned those right. I mentioned how good those are right?
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Buddy_McPuddy23 hr ago
+9
Another adaptation that is really just some dudes screenplay he couldn’t get greenlit without a recognisable IP
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seancbo1 day ago
+118
I disagree with his take about games generally, but also Far Cry isn't exactly known for its deep interconnected lore, so yeah, f*** it, do whatever. The one and only time people cared about the story was just cause Michael Mando showed up one day and decided to give it 500%
But also finish Alien Earth first you f***, that cliffhanger was ass.
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nikhkin1 day ago
+23
He is. Filming for the second season is due to start in the next few weeks.
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seancbo1 day ago
+11
Oh shit nice. I really like the show, it just felt like it was completely missing an episode or two
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UberGoobler1 day ago
+10
Michael Mando was so f****** good as Vaas
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seancbo1 day ago
+11
He's so good that there's multiple threads of people arguing about how good Far Cry stories are as a series purely off of a single character that dies halfway through the game
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Gobblewicket1 day ago
+16
I genuinely hated the Seeds in Far Cry because of the story and torment they put you through. There is plenty of lore and story in the Far Cry games. Greg Byrk as Joseph, Matltk Pellegrino as Jacob, and Seamus Dever as John were great antagonist. Jessica Grant did a good job of presenting Faith as both a victim and complicit aid to the Seeds as well.
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seancbo1 day ago
+5
Oh sure, you could do just a Far Cry 5 adapstion, that could be neat. I'm just saying as a series, there's not much connecting them.
I almost love Far Cry 5. The characters are all super cool, and the setting is great, but something about the connecting narrative kinda falls down. Also the ending is f****** stupid, but that's par for the course since Far Cry 3.
4 has a bunch of neat stuff too. I like how imperfect and downright shitty both rebel factions are in their own ways, it feels real. But I barely remember any of the characters in that one outside of the main villain.
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Jmacq11 day ago
+3
Plot Twist: They're doing Blood Dragon
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DamonLazer1 day ago
+2
Far Cry 5 is probably my favorite storyline overall. Sure, Joseph Seed was a David Korresh ripoff, but he was fun, and terrifying. I liked the setting and side characters too, but what I loved most about that game was the music. Dan Romer really went above and beyond with the Hope County Choir stuff. I'd wait and hide outside compounds before running in and killing everybody just so I could finish hearing, "Let the Water Wash Away Your Sins."
It would be nice if they got Romer to do the music for the series.
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whatsinthesocks1 day ago
+7
My problem with 5 is it was the same thing, get kidnapped, escape, and repeat. Plus hated that ending.
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RecordingSilly61181 day ago
+9
The fact you could get kidnapped *while flying a single seater airplane* was so f****** annoying
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UnquestionabIe1 day ago
+3
But also kind of hilarious in hindsight. Honestly the best thing about 5 is how absolutely absurd it can be. Feeling an urge to replay it thinking about shit like the dog.
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ClockworkEngineseer1 day ago
+2
They wouldn’t have the balls to adapt FC 5 in this political environment sadly.
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Charlaquin1 day ago
+26
I feel like his statement is being mischaracterized here. He’s saying that writing for TV and movies has different concerns than writing for video games, and that makes directly adapting a video game’s story for film difficult. He’s not saying the cutscenes in a game don’t matter or that most players skip them. He’s saying video game stories are usually written to be told more through the environment and direct action by the protagonist, rather than interpersonal drama, and using the fact that cutscenes are usually skippable (as in the player has the option to skip them) as a way to illustrate what he means.
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Mintfriction1 day ago
+14
>He’s saying video game stories are usually written to be told more through the environment and direct action by the protagonis
Which is a very big and fat bullsht
A lot of great games tell their story through both cutscenesa and gameplay and if you skip cutscenes you don't get the story.
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Charlaquin1 day ago
+12
Again, the point isn’t “the cutscenes aren’t an important part of the story” the point is “video games are a participatory medium and film is a passive medium.” The fact that most games *allow* you to skip the cutscenes is an illustration of this difference in the mediums, not a commentary on the cutscenes’ importance within the story of the game.
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XYcritic20 hr ago
+6
I get it, it's just not a good point because cutscenes are usually able to be skipped for completely different reasons than "if you don't care about story, skip this". It's for people that have seen it before due to replay, reload or crash. That's also why movie players allow you to "skip" story parts, making this a bad analogy.
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tinyrickstinyhands1 day ago
+7
Sorry, he said "skip cutscene" so i just have to be reactionary and mad instead of using my brain
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planktivious23 hr ago
+6
I wouldn't let this guy adapt the f****** Muppets must less Far Cry. Sounds like I'm going to be skipping his entire series.
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mightymiek1 day ago
+24
Farcry is one of the few FPSs that I DON'T skip cutscenes in.
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Kmart_Stalin1 day ago
+6
Also you can’t adapt gameplay only.
So what the f*** is the story?
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Jaded_Software_1 day ago
+8
So he learned nothing from Alien Earth and how poorly the finale did when he moved away from what makes Alien - Alien…
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JackBlackBowserSlaps1 day ago
+4
Hmmm, really enjoyed Fargo, but alien earth and legion were misses for me
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Va1kryie1 day ago
+5
The funny thing is, Far Cry being a borderline anthology series makes it a perfect game to adapt to a movie in nearly any way you want. What the f*** is this nonsense about skipping cutscenes??? Love when an artist shows you how they just blatantly don't respect an entire medium of art.
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Bananaman902022 hr ago
+5
Not a good start.
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Strykah22 hr ago
+5
This guy has never played a videogame in his life.
Didn't even know a far cry show was in development but now think it's gonna tank. Shame have been a fan of Noah's work
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Complete_Entry1 day ago
+48
So another In Name Only script.
F*** him, cancel the show.
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Elbit_Curt_Sedni1 day ago
+3
He has that, "I know best," mentality.
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Accomplished_End_8431 day ago
+3
This says more about him than it says anything about those games. And the fact that’s what HE thinks Far Cry is makes me incredibly scared for this adaptation
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Allexandyr1 day ago
+3
I’m wondering if he has young kids that do this or something. My girlfriend’s 10 year old little brother is playing through Spider-Man 2 on PS5 and skips every cutscene lol, maybe it’s a gen alpha thing? He’s the only gen alpha kid that I know so I have no clue lol
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aluaji1 day ago
+3
If you're not adapting a Far Cry game story when making a Far Cry movie then you're basically making another Rambo.
Why even call it Far Cry?
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ccv7071 day ago
+3
……….is this the kind of mentality that has led us to never getting an *actual* Resident Evil adaptation or a good, accurate Silent Hill film?
Guess this will be the reason a MGS adaptation would be utterly impossible.
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ElGranQuesoRojo1 day ago
+3
Welp. Big fans of this series can go ahead and skip it b/c this makes it sound like it's just going to be an original Hawley story w/a Far Cry skin suit stretched over the opening credits.
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Healthy-Process8741 day ago
+3
Yes, I skipped all the cutscenes featuring Giancarlo Esposito, Michael Mando, Troy Baker, and Stephen Dorff.
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unbelizeable123 hr ago
+3
Far Cry 3, often praised for how great michael mando is in it. But yea man, we all just skipped those scenes.
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MyAccountWasBanned723 hr ago
+3
Oh great, so it's being adapted by someone who clearly does not play video games and will ignore all of the lore and source material.
Yeah, I'm just gonna go ahead and skip that series.
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theCoolestGuy59922 hr ago
+3
Look I enjoy Hawley's work, but can we PLEASE stop giving game adaptations to people *who hate the f****** games*
An adaptation of a video game is an adaptation of the story, atmosphere, general themes, and *maybe* aspects of the gameplay. But it's primarily an adaptation of the story, because the moment to moment gameplay is an experience unique to the video game medium. So hearing that the guy making a Far Cry series not only doesn't know the story, but believes that *everyone* skips the story in games, tells me that he has no interest in making an authentic adaptation.
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shaunfthedead21 hr ago
+3
Seems he skipped through the Alien series as well
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bankerlmth1 day ago
+6
On top of this, he's the same guy who made Alien Earth? Easy skip.
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debacol1 day ago
+5
He is wrong. And Alien Earth is the greatest dumpster fire Ive seen in a long time. His Fargo was great but I have zero faith in him since Alien Earth.
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CrustedTesticle1 day ago
+7
Well, he's wrong. Looking good so far.
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Smedleysrevenge1 day ago
+7
Alien Earth is trash, no reason to think this will be any better. Especially after this banger of a take🤣.
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Tamesty151 day ago
+8
I think I don’t like Noah Hawley and how he treats IP, ice age being in Alien was certainly a choice
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Darkknight1011 day ago
+4
It doesn't make me worried about him working on the series, as none of the games are really connected beyond a few of the DLCs.
But man what an ass take. Far Cry is one of those games you don't really skip the cut scenes. No matter how lackluster the video games have gotten.
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BaroqueBro1 day ago
+4
I'm glad Alex Garland is adapting Elden Ring and not Noah :)
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HardcoreKaraoke1 day ago
+3
That's an absolutely insane thing to say. I'll skip cutscenes if I'm replaying a game but who the Hell skips the cutscenes during your first playthrough?
Also if he has this mindset then why even adapt Far Cry? The story isn't entirely told through the gameplay.
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SvenLorenz1 day ago
+4
So today I learned that Noah Hawley is an idiot.
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firesyrup1 day ago
+2
I like Hawley's works but this is such a baffling take. If he doesn't see why the narrative in these games are compelling, why did he even sign up for this project?
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lost124871 day ago
+2
Why do these video game adaptations keep hiring writers/directors/producers with this exact philosophy after watching the last 20 adaptations fail doing the exact same thing?
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Mistrblank1 day ago
+2
aaaand he would be wrong.
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bucketman19861 day ago
+2
I get what he means with like X-Men, that's an entire universe with a long rich history and a ton of characters.
The games are mostly disconnected and if you don't follow one of the games.... Then why bother calling it Far Cry and not just making a new thing?
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Frank_Cap1 day ago
+2
The big 2026 and people in Hollywood continue to not learn jack shit about video games but still get jobs to adapt them.
Ridiculous.
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Hevens-assassin1 day ago
+2
Can these dweebs stop getting the keys to beloved franchises please? I'm so sick of it. I'm dreading what happens with Helldivers when Lin has been bragging about never playing it.
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bobosuda1 day ago
+2
Just like every video game adaption ever. Or really any adaption of a pre-existikg franchise.
Idiot showrunners always think they know best.
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monchota1 day ago
+2
That is the dumbest and most disconnected thing ive ever heard. No , not all gamers skip the cut scenes, in single player games. Its a majority illusion, that people skip and fly through.just because he would play that way and sees that reinforced online.
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Wilsonian811 day ago
+2
The f*** is this guy talking about?
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BlackNexus1 day ago
+2
I swear video game adaptations always get the most ignorant people to make them.
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TheHumanTarget841 day ago
+2
Definitely a guy who adapts stuff he doesn't give a shit about and just does whatever.
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False_Appointment_241 day ago
+2
Well, at least I know not to watch this show. If he is the type of person to skip all cutscenes, then he isn't the type of person that will make a video game show I want to watch. Other shows by him, sure, but it crosses out this adaptation.
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Square_Saltine1 day ago
+2
When I read a book I just skip all the reading
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sailirish71 day ago
+2
Many of us play the game for those cut scenes. What a knob.
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GansNaval1 day ago
+2
What? No way. I love the far cry storylines. It's part of the whole experience.
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quietguy_65651 day ago
+2
Why would you adapt a source material that you have no respect for??? From the fallout team loudly and proudly saying that they "don't play the games," from whatever they were on with that Halo show, why?
You want to tell your own story??? Get to writing. But don't slap someone else's title on the front to do it.
As campy as they are, the "resident evil" movie franchise doesn't hate their fanbase.
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xbpb1241 day ago
+2
But fallout is a good show and managed to adapt the gameplay into visual story telling. It feels like fallout
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GarrusBueller1 day ago
+2
I like his work but this sounds like the show is going to be Far Cry in name only and I really dislike that kind of thing. Is the only point of it being Far Cry just for name recognition?
It's a damn shame because I think he could make a great Blood Dragon, and that is the only one worth adapting.
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mormonbatman_1 day ago
+2
He wrote a script and got a streamer to pay him to film it by calling it Far cry.
Thats the game, fans. That's why you won't like it when it airs.
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Dalyngrigge1 day ago
+2
Damn, is he really just gonna get stuck in the franchise machine? I want a new season of Fargo :(
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Chr1sg9323 hr ago
+2
Hawley comes across as very presumptuous in his perceptions of what people want or do:
With Alien: Earth he stated that he thought the Xenomorph was ‘too human’ (that was the whole POINT!) and said he was willing to compromise it aesthetically for a man-in-suit (which didn’t achieve or help anything because the Xenomorph in Earth moved and looked ridiculous - the performer was a muscular tall dude better suited for a Predator costume and thought the Xenomorph does jazz hands and shakes it’s hips). This was all to make it appear as dangerous and monstrous as possible (he swapped out the biomechanical aesthetic - the very visual identity of the creature - and added cockroach and crustacean elements instead because…who knows). Don’t even get me started on characterisation - a parasitic lovercraftian horror got turned into an attack dog that responds to whistle commands.
Now, he’s saying most people skip cutscenes in videogames…for some games I literally have rewatched all of them like a film. God of War, Final Fantasy, Hell even Skyrim, Fallout, Elden Ring, Halo, Gears of War - never skipped them! Some people actually play videogames for the story and the cinematic immersion. Clearly, he thinks everyone just skips. I’ve played Far Cry 3 and 4 and Avatar: FoP (which was Far Cry on Pandora) - didn’t skip the cutscenes - even if the story is ‘so-so’ it adds context to why you’re doing anything in the game. I will be skipping his Far Cry show.
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Mythun452317 hr ago
+2
This is gonna suck ass isn't it. Imagine saying no one watched the vaas monologue.......
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JasonP2713 hr ago
+2
Sounds like a recipe for another poorly adapted game to TV / movie
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LettuceC12 hr ago
+2
I watched Alien Earth and he butchered that property. Not surprising he’s going to butcher this IP too.
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Amateur_Hour_9312 hr ago
+2
I’ve never skipped a cutscene I haven’t seen before. NEVER
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Lt_Jonson12 hr ago
+2
“I’m gonna tell a story for the people that skip the story” doesn’t give me confidence in this adaptation
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brandondesign12 hr ago
+2
I’m always confident in a show adapted from something when a runner proves they don’t properly follow the content they’re adapting.
While I’d agree not to do any of the exiting stories…understanding the stories are what drives the action is important.
I think the popularity of Far Cry 3’s Vaas proves him wrong.
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myassholealt10 hr ago
+2
I don't think this guy is a gamer if he thinks everyone skips cutscenes. Last of Us would not have gotten as big as it did if everyone skipped cutscenes.
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LilFunyunz10 hr ago
+2
Spoken like someone who's literally never played a video game in his life.
That's the only way you speak about games like this.
"The gameplay section"
"You have these cutscrnes"
Bro sounds like a historian trying to imagine what the culture of an ancient society was like.
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