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Nobel laureate calls it "treason": $580 million traded minutes before Trump's oil reversal

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According_Gift_7095 Mar 24, 2026 +8464
Pump and Dump schemes at the Presidential level are stealing billions from pensions and retirement funds. Every single dollar these fucks steal by insider trading, with the orange turd as the ringleader…is a dollar that teamsters truck driver loses in his retirement. It’s a dollar stolen from that teacher’s and cop’s pension. They are stealing from US at scale and the only hope is a complete wipeout at the ballot boxes and 100% accountability for all crimes immediately thereafter. This is treasonous and I don’t mean it like orange turd uses the word. I mean it in the real sense of the legal term. They deserve the harshest punishment their crimes carry by law. If that’s capital punishment - so be it. It’ll be the only way we have at healing the damage and theft
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one_pound_of_flesh Mar 24, 2026 +2049
Trump supporters will gladly give up their retirements so that Trump can have a new gold toilet. They only care about their king.
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XI_Vanquish_IX Mar 24, 2026 +516
Well many of them live worthless lives to begin with. Sloth and depravity. So owning the libs is really the same thing as Iranians going scorched earth. They feel like they will take us all down with them
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one_pound_of_flesh Mar 24, 2026 +310
They live parasocial lives. Their own lives are shit. But they can feel less crappy by watching their guy win. Even if they never see any benefits, they can feel special for a brief moment. It’s depressing. I’d feel bad for them if they weren’t such miserable people.
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pvdfan Mar 24, 2026 +109
Politics became sports and sports became politics. People cheer on deranged politicians "owning" the other side but want athletes to be respectful to everyone at all time.
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Lmitation Mar 24, 2026 +66
only the right want athletes to be respectful of them, let's get that straight
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jinjuwaka Mar 24, 2026 +25
Yeah...as a proud far leftist, I like my professional athlete shit-talking one-another. I think that if you're being paid to play pro-ball and you just styled on the other team, you should be able to openly ask them what your nuts taste like and if they have a favorite soap for the next time. I just don't want any punching...unless it's MMA *and* inside the octagon.
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Beragond1 Mar 24, 2026 +5
IDK, charging the mound is a time honored tradition in the MLB.
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RealNilruin Mar 25, 2026 +8
Always fun to see hockey players toss the gloves to the ice.
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Hot-Echo-2497 Mar 24, 2026 +19
That's what terrifies me. These people approach politics no different than a sports game. As long as their team wins, everything is good.
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OtherwiseACat Mar 24, 2026 +11
It's like WWE/pro wrestling to them.
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amateurbreditor Mar 24, 2026 +59
sloth is a key feature. Every trump house I see is dilapidated. even ones owned by younger guys. my magat neighbors have 2 couples living in the same house. The 2 men are magically handicapped while completely able bodied. Its just sickening.
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Andovars_Ghost Mar 24, 2026 +36
Unfortunately where I live they are in nice houses and drive expensive cars. The two loudest ones are both immigrants from Italy. I guess their families were cool with Mussolini.
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amateurbreditor Mar 24, 2026 +18
Usually the rich ones here stay quiet. Either way it sucks they exist. I guess the italians are also racist which comes naturally with maga
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axonxorz Mar 24, 2026 +20
> I guess the Italians are also racist They must've forgotten that they weren't considered white until the establishment decided they needed their numbers, along with the Irish, to stem the tide of Uppity Negroes™ entering the political arena after the war.
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amateurbreditor Mar 24, 2026 +37
Im technically irish and it drives me insane that you cant even talk about it especially with black people. I obviously get the difference. I get the whole thing. My last name is super uncommon because most people dropped part of the name to blend in. I get all of the differences but the irish people were starved to death by the british and modern people dont even get that part and refer to it as a potato famine. The potato has nothing to do with the famine and everything to do with genocide. No one in britian died of hunger like that nor did the british soldiers in ireland. It was a genocide and should be named the Irish genocide. The whole Irish history has been erased and you arent even allowed to talk about what happened to them when they came to america because they werent technically slaves even though they were slaves. same with the Chinese. Its just fucked its erased and even modern journalists ignore history. why do some peoples get erased?
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RepresentativeAge444 Mar 24, 2026 +12
Well hey take it up with Bannon or the Irish that became cops that decided to beat down once they became accepted into the club by their former oppressors instead of fighting them with other minorities. And that’s not to say all. Many did. But far too many didn’t and are virulent white supremacists.
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Andovars_Ghost Mar 24, 2026 +13
I mean, hell, Trump just put a statue of [Christopher Columbus](https://www.npr.org/2026/03/23/nx-s1-5757281/christopher-columbus-trump-white-house) on the grounds of the White House. That famously horrible person who never even stepped foot on American soil.
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FormerTesseractPilot Mar 24, 2026 +9
There are also a lot of rich motherfuckers who love him too.
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TrumpetOfDeath Mar 24, 2026 +254
It’s also bad for the markets to have such open corruption and manipulation. It will destroy trust in the US financial system, and investors might opt to move their money somewhere that the rules aren’t rigged against them
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CP_Chronicler Mar 24, 2026 +107
But that’s the point. These criminals want to weaken the dollar and move everything into crypto or other currencies. They’re counting on the destruction of the US as their way of destroying the one institution that could hold them accountable. They’re selling off all of America’s power piecemeal, stealing it for themselves, all with the plan to build a future not of countries but corrupt, borderless oligarchical billionaire power.
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couldbemage Mar 25, 2026 +18
People need to pay attention to this. This isn't a mistake, this is the literal openly stated goal of people like thiel, who have direct influence in the white house.
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Tardisgoesfast Mar 24, 2026 +10
Where you said "they," I'd say "Putin."
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Zer_ Mar 24, 2026 +19
Oh no, it's American business owners that want this. Russia didn't need to do much convincing.
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cchoe1 Mar 24, 2026 +29
That’s exactly why a lot of big investors love the US stock market. The markets are rigged for them. They have insider knowledge, advantageous latency, they have so much capital they can just directly manipulate the markets and it’s entirely kosher, they can buy your order data so they can precisely f*** you over. Anyone who thinks the US stock market has been fair for the last 20-30 years simply haven’t been paying attention
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ANTI_FASCIST_USA Mar 24, 2026 +176
These people need to be prosecuted and thrown in prison The democrats that are willing to do this are getting my vote We need some integrity back in the government Also need to ban trading for anyone associated with policy makers in government
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maybedaydrinking Mar 24, 2026 +66
More importantly the Dems that do the "time for healing" bullshit need to be gone. Prosecutions must be a priority or they won't get my vote. Vote blue no matter who is what got us here. If corporate Dems don't get with the program burn it all down, we're cooked anyway.
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Nelliell Mar 24, 2026 +22
There can be no justice without accountability. The time for healing is later. The time to hold criminals accountable comes first.
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Dr_DoesNothing Mar 24, 2026 +27
Not just blue, but seeking full legal punishment of Trump and his criminal clown show posse.
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SelfAwareAl Mar 24, 2026 +10
The problem is these 'Time for Healing' Dems get pumped full of corporate and PAC money and benefit from the Citizens United bullshit and end up getting elected to be Republican-lite pieces of trash that put their own pocketbooks above the American people. It's happened time and time again and I'm so worried it's just going to happen yet again. The average voter is not a Redditor on the Politics subreddit like us and they vote with what seems to be the most 'common sense' and to them, the stability of 'healing' is far more important than the Scales of Justice and Just Desserts.
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defianceofone Mar 25, 2026 +4
Any Dem who utters 'time for healing' should be chucked into prison alongside their MAGA mate.
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Dirtycurta Mar 24, 2026 +21
The origins of these trades are very, very easy to investigate at the exchange level.  Unfortunately, the regulators (CFTC) are compromised.
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Effective_Olive6153 Mar 24, 2026 +11
people need to make this issue a big talking point during elections. There will no doubt be many mainstream Democrats basically saying "lets forgive and forget" and "I don't want Justice Department and FBI to be political" Those people need to be identified early and weeded out by voters. We need aggressive fighters to clean up the mess
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SwedishTrees Mar 24, 2026 +66
That pump and dump was the cryptocurrency. This one is straight up insider trading
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awesomefutureperfect Mar 24, 2026 +19
Worse, it's almost a protection racket, using the threat of military force as a way to extract profits from a market.
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Sea_Working_80 Mar 24, 2026 +43
Man WTF happened to people in general.I was raised to think most people are generally good.Boy was I wrong in the worst way
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DurianDiscriminat3r Mar 24, 2026 +27
The shitty people are empowered these days. I still think most people are generally good with their own flaws.
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Grannymaenot Mar 24, 2026 +33
I’m remembering what they did to Martha Stewart for much less than this. (If she even really did anything, I’m not sure she did.)
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CaseyG Mar 24, 2026 +8
Martha Stewart was convicted of lying and obstruction of justice. The judge dismissed the actual insider trading charge, saying no reasonable jury would convict her.
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DrRealName Mar 24, 2026 +35
Its too late. The people in the business realm have all the money. The f*** is our government going to do after this when we are broke as f***?
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According_Gift_7095 Mar 24, 2026 +38
The billionaires break the system at THEIR OWN peril. If they decide to continue stealing our money and political representation, it won’t be long until everyday people like you and me stop supporting the broken system. When that happens - all bets are off. Revolution, anarchy, god knows where the pieces land. The only sure thing - the richest will be preyed upon by roving bands of former citizens looking for resources and vengeance. They do not want this. They have incentive to not break it all the way. Just enough to have us complain on the internet but not march to their mansions with pitchforks and torches
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BeautifulBug8996 Mar 24, 2026 +6
More than 88 millions of Americans didn't give a f*** about the elections and more than 77 millions voted for the corrupt turd. There won't be more than a third to fight back, if they're not horribly repressed by the obese gestapo members roaming their streets before :< Your politicians have failed you. They're behaving like nobility and maybe it's time to borrow that famous device that was used to deal with such profiles from some of our museums...
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darthstupidious Mar 24, 2026 +7
Take it back from the people that stole it
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sheabd01 Mar 24, 2026 +9
Could you explain why pension funds in particular are losers in these sorts of schemes? I know futures markets are zero-sum markets, so when someone makes money in futures, someone else loses money. But is there a reason that pension funds in particular would be on the "losing" side of these schemes? Thanks for any insight, I really appreciate it.
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CaseyG Mar 24, 2026 +7
The fraudsters buy oil futures (contracts that will be fulfilled later with actual physical oil) at the market rate. Then the market explodes because there isn't enough oil getting through the shipping lanes to fulfill all the contracts, and someone is going to have to buy oil from a more expensive source to satisfy them. The fraudsters then sell the futures at an inflated price. If the fraudsters hadn't bought these contracts, the previous holders would have made that money instead, and some of it would have gone to pension funds, to be reinvested in stocks whose values have plummeted since the war started. Knowing this shit was going to happen allowed the fraudsters to steal some of the markup that would have offset the losses to these pension funds.
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MrMacduggan Mar 25, 2026 +6
If you defeat the market as a whole (by cheating) you take money out of the center of mass of the market (who are making less-informed, but fair and rational decisions), and a whole lot of the overall investment in the markets lies within those pension funds.
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HauntedLightBulb Mar 24, 2026 +9
>is a dollar that teamsters truck driver loses in his retirement. And they'll still vote for him happily. Or say "blah blah both sides" and vote for him begrudgingly. That being said, yes, this is treason and they deserve to be punished for treason. The enablers too.
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metengrinwi Mar 24, 2026 +8
They’re collapsing the system on purpose and looting the country for themselves on the way out.
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spurlockmedia Mar 24, 2026 +4
As a union guy representing firefighters it literally infuriates me knowing my members cheer this activity on. They want it because they don’t think it directly affects them.
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bfitzyc Mar 24, 2026 +6
As soon as I get to feeling like this could be the offense that Congress can finally use to get that orange bag of dicks out of office, I painfully realize that probably half or more of Congress were among the investors moving that money around before the announcement. We’re just getting pickpocketed from every angle and I’m f****** over it.
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spaceocean99 Mar 24, 2026 +10
They’ve always done it. Just not this obvious….if anything good comes out of his presidency is that it shines a light on what politicians been doing behind the scenes for decades.
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silent_thinker Mar 24, 2026 +4
That should have been Trump’s first term, but I guess he and his cronies have to make it extra obvious so that *maybe* some of the morons will finally see it.
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1cl3nstd4yt Mar 24, 2026 +2142
Somebody bought $1.5 billion in S&P 500 futures at the same time. They made a killing, probably tripled their money.
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Reduntu Mar 24, 2026 +739
Barron's been killin' it this year
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Sea_Working_80 Mar 24, 2026 +254
What a genius
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LostMyBackupCodes Mar 24, 2026 +170
“He has an unbelievable aptitude in technology”
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1cl3nstd4yt Mar 24, 2026 +86
He can look at a computer; if you turn off his laptop, you can go back about five minutes later, he’s got his laptop.
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ZenFook Mar 24, 2026 +56
*Everything's Computer!*
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Sea_Working_80 Mar 24, 2026 +14
Hello computer?
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WildBad7298 Mar 24, 2026 +8
...Just use the keyboard.
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grnrngr Mar 24, 2026 +9
*sigh* Keyboard. How quaint.
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dannypants143 Mar 24, 2026 +7
A-la-me-da
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QbertsRube Mar 24, 2026 +59
He has this Robin Hood game where I tell him what I'm about to say on the Truth Social and bing bang boom he makes a *lot* of money on the game, it's really unbelievable.
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Momik Mar 24, 2026 +3
Whiz kid!
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Trailblazertravels Mar 24, 2026 +4
prob had to start up his laptop to trade
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forceblast Mar 24, 2026 +51
Bu..bu..but, Hunter’s laptop! /s
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critacle Mar 24, 2026 +41
Subpoena EVERYONES trading accounts right now.
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Dad2DnA Mar 24, 2026 +17
But punishing success is un-American, which is why the rich don't have to pay taxes
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pantstoaknifefight2 Mar 24, 2026 +7
The Justice Department has already put their top men on it. They're working in shifts!
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eljefino Mar 24, 2026 +4
Do you think they're going to find my Creedence tapes?
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Philo_T_Farnsworth Mar 24, 2026 +14
Killin what? The pets in his neighborhood that have gone lost? Or has he upgraded to killing drifters?
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FauxReal Mar 24, 2026 +10
Has he? Or is this a meme? I think a 20 year old son of the President making these trades would be a pretty clear sign of corruption.
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GrimlockN0Bozo Mar 24, 2026 +8
Who's gonna do anything about it?
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RidingYourEverything Mar 24, 2026 +143
Ten days ago, Trump announced he would allow paid donors to sit in on national security briefings. I said it was paying for insider trading information at the time. https://people.com/trump-promises-donors-access-national-security-briefings-11925725
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flickh Mar 25, 2026 +32
I know I sound like a sweet summer child but did that not get, like, any legal pushback? The Hatch Act?  Emoluments Clause? SEC? Elections law?  Bueller?  Bueller??
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CapitalElk1169 Mar 25, 2026 +27
Because the word of the King is the law and those do not apply to the King! The USA is no longer a democracy
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xnmyl Mar 25, 2026 +12
Who would push back? Congress? Trump controls both the house and senate DoJ? Pan Bondi would never allow it
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OldWorldDesign Mar 25, 2026 +10
> Trump announced he would allow paid donors to sit in on national security briefings. I said it was paying for insider trading information at the time. https://people.com/trump-promises-donors-access-national-security-briefings-11925725 I wonder if he only announced that because he was about to be caught bringing in people with no clearance so they could get in on the pump-and-dump they were destroying the American economy for already.
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Simmery Mar 24, 2026 +442
The underestimated risk is that this level of corruption will cause non-criminal investors to lose faith in these markets and American markets in particular. Then goodbye, retirement. 
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Rbomb88 Mar 24, 2026 +242
The amount of millennial and younger folks that are staring down the barrel at "goodbye retirement"regardless is getting higher with the way things are going though.
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Oggie_Doggie Mar 24, 2026 +83
I mean, have you heard the Republican talking heads speak? They don't believe us proles should be allowed to retire. Just work until we drop dead on the factory floor.
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Rbomb88 Mar 24, 2026 +18
Too much paperwork. Die on your own time.
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QbertsRube Mar 24, 2026 +66
I'm in my early 40s and trying to decide if I should A) buy my first house, B) save that money in hopes of retiring someday, or C) yolo everything into cocaine and hookers because we're all fuckin doomed anyways. Trump has me leaning towards C.
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tm0nks Mar 24, 2026 +11
Turning 42 in a few months and right there with you. Our rent just got hiked another hundred dollars a month when they already raised it maybe 6 months ago. I live in a small town in the Midwest making half decent money and still want to puke when I look at housing prices. Wtf are we even supposed to do. It's so damned depressing.
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NewSauerKraus Mar 24, 2026 +3
It's really not a big deal. I never considered the possibility of retirement so nothing was lost.
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Martian13 Mar 24, 2026 +9
Uh yeah, Gen X too. WE all got crushed by Covid.
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Xznograthos Mar 24, 2026 +12
Gen X actually represents the largest segment of congress members; more than boomers. Its not like you are at anyone's mercy as a generation.
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GoldSourPatchKid Mar 24, 2026 +2
Nobody ever remembers us 😢
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TheGringoDingo Mar 24, 2026 +37
This is just more evidence, not the start of those thoughts. I’m struggling to see how GenX and later will be able to manage once the boomer portfolios are cashed out.
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Sea_Working_80 Mar 24, 2026 +7
Oh I intend to work till I keel over in 2060 driving the road
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bertbarndoor Mar 24, 2026 +24
Will cause is future tense. You meant has caused. Trump and his cronies are outright thieving money from the markets. 
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distorted_kiwi Mar 24, 2026 +17
I found it nauseating to do federal taxes this year when I’m seeing these fuckers triple their millions and billions overnight on insider trading and whatever the f*** online betting is now.
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fivebillionproud Mar 24, 2026 +11
You put it well. Was thinking about this last night. The way I see it is that the manipulation is essentially indirect theft from anyone that has any capital invested in any tangible or nontagible assets that have anything to do with the US. Think of retirement accounts of those in Europe who have been moving capital out of the S&P... when corruption influences anybody to divest from the US, when they otherwise wouldn't have, you're screwing over anybody who isn't cheating the system.
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Flamboiant_Canadian Mar 24, 2026 +12
I've already cashed out everything. All of it. Put it on my mortgage. There's nothing to gain in a market that is propped up by bullshit. Especially when the government has been insider trading/stealing everyone's investments. Trump literally nuked the cryptocurrency markets. It's basically dead right now, fresh new bear market. That's coming to the stock market next. 
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juicefarm Mar 24, 2026 +7
Yep I'm right there. I've sold off everything and won't put it back into the market again. I will take my employer match but it's going into a stable fund. I will look for other ways to secure my retirement from here on out
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dancingfordates Mar 24, 2026 +7
Already has... We are no longer a nation of laws. It was our regulations and oversights that created the excellent atmosphere for investment. 🤷‍♂️.. Trump and the right-wing have shit all over that
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beadzy Mar 24, 2026 +25
and not to spend it. but to keep it from others. for these soulless fucks, winning only happens when others lose
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mydogargos Mar 24, 2026 +6
Is it not possible for someone to see who?
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CoinRef Mar 24, 2026 +1794
Martha Stewart went to prison for $45,000 in insider trading. $580 million traded minutes before a presidential announcement and a Nobel laureate is calling it treason. The two-tiered justice system has never been more visible
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FrancoManiac Mar 24, 2026 +420
Close, but not quite. They couldn't pin her for insider trading, so Comey sent her to prison for lying to the FBI.
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Futt_Buckman Mar 24, 2026 +136
If only the same could be done today
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ShrimpieAC Mar 24, 2026 +97
If Trump spent a year in prison for every lie he told to law-enforcement or a judge he’d probably be sentenced to thousands of years.
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lovestheautumn Mar 24, 2026 +13
Perfect
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Intelligent_Sky_7081 Mar 24, 2026 +31
Interesting. Lying under oath seems like a valid thing to send people to jail for though right. If only we had evidence of such crimes within this administration oh wait.
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FrancoManiac Mar 24, 2026 +20
So, you know those *I can't recall* or *to the best of my recollection* responses? Those mitigate culpability. Stewart spoke decisively, either yes or no (I can't recall which), for something that the FBI could demonstrate was contrary to fact. Comey then pursued it relentlessly in court. I've heard lawyers say that I was pretty scummy, something that you *could* add as a charge but usually don't, given the fallibility of human memory. Approximately 25 years after the fact, most seem to think that Comey just had it out for Martha (and, more broadly, has it out for women in general.)
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Pleasant_Pen8744 Mar 24, 2026 +10
And that whole time Madoff was getting away with his crimes. FBI couldn't ever be harassed into opening the file.
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red286 Mar 24, 2026 +8
As she was simply the recipient of the information, she would have only been looking at a civil case from the SEC if she hadn't lied to the FBI. She would have been fined $135K and banned from trading stocks for 2 years, but that's it. It really was the lying to the FBI that got her a criminal charge. She lied about having a standing order to sell her shares if the price dipped below $60 (which she wasn't actually convicted on), and then proceeded to keep lying about whether she'd been tipped off (which is what she did get convicted on).
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one_pound_of_flesh Mar 24, 2026 +53
That’s the neat part about the two tiered system, there’s nothing you or I can do about it.
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CpnJackSparrow Mar 24, 2026 +8
There is, but it's not advisable.
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Flamboiant_Canadian Mar 24, 2026 +410
Imagine bombing another country, **starting a war** with said country, and then dragging allies into said war, just to manipulate the markets for personal gain? If that's not treason, then idk what is? 
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kinrosai Mar 24, 2026 +65
Definitely mass murder, destruction of critical infrastructure and disruption of global trade, anyway.
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Flamboiant_Canadian Mar 24, 2026 +7
I mean, regardless of what comes of it for them? The reputation of the United States is cold diarrhea in a clogged toilet bowl. Nobody wants to touch that shit. 
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EffectiveEdg Mar 24, 2026 +678
So the art of the deal is just telling your buddies to short oil 15 minutes before you tweet? Got it. We’re out here stressing about $5 gas and the literal threat of World War III, while someone with a direct line to the White House just made enough money in one minute to buy a private island. $580 million isn't just market anticipation it’s a statistical middle finger to every working person in this country.
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TrumpetOfDeath Mar 24, 2026 +203
Eventually investors are gonna start leaving US financial markets over this kinda shit, nobody wants to play a game they know is rigged against them
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jellyhessman Mar 24, 2026 +67
Yep. A lot of people ignore this since it's hard to see and imagine, but that damage is done and the future of American prosperity is bleak.
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Euphoric-Witness-824 Mar 24, 2026 +21
It’s a good thing for Trump that there is plenty of USA based pensions and 401ks with biweekly deposits being made. Steal Americans tax money and steal Americans retirement funds. And they are getting away with it. 
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one_pound_of_flesh Mar 24, 2026 +22
Sadly nothing can be done. There’s nothing illegal about the president breaking the law.
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Simburgure Mar 24, 2026 +244
Nothing to see here, just the most transparent administration ever.
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1cl3nstd4yt Mar 24, 2026 +107
"We don't hide our corruption!"
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silent_thinker Mar 24, 2026 +10
Now that’s transparency!
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SlowRunner2026 Mar 24, 2026 +302
Most openly corrupt government the United States has ever had.
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DaSeraph Mar 24, 2026 +37
Yes, but that could have a positive effect. People doubted this level of corruption happened before and now there's no doubt.
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JaronJervis Mar 24, 2026 +363
I wonder what country has the guts to arrest this dementia president when he visits
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TheNumberOneRat Mar 24, 2026 +45
Not going to happen. No country is going to war with the US just to protect Americans from their self inflicted injury.
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sk0t_ Mar 24, 2026 +3
I like to think if the nation put it to vote, we could come to a majority agreement to let the other country take possession of him, maybe when squirrel him away into a Guantanamo style hole, never to be seen again
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rufusanddash Mar 24, 2026 +61
god i hope - he’s so much better than newsom
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Flamboiant_Canadian Mar 24, 2026 +10
I think at some point the idea of arresting someone goes out the window. Especially after they've lost their job, their life savings, and can't afford to live in their own country any more? Let alone, eat because food prices have skyrocketed?  There's a reason most of the Executive Office personnel are hiding on military bases and why Elon Musk doesn't go out in public any more. 
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bagsoffreshcheese Mar 24, 2026 +7
What happened to Musks human shield? Did he get too big for Musk to lift up?
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8bitmorals Mar 24, 2026 +107
For the people that don't know. around 6:49 AM on **March 23, 2026**, $1.5 billion in S&P 500 futures and approximately $650 million in crude oil contracts entered the New York market. Roughly 16 minutes later, Trump posted on Truth Social announcing a 5-day suspension of bombing Iran's energy infrastructure, citing "very good and productive talks" Following the post, oil prices dropped roughly 15%, while the S&P 500 surged by $1.7 trillion in value
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Oodlydoodley Mar 24, 2026 +27
While Iran says those talks aren't happening at all, and when he was asked about them by reporters he was purposely vague and said he wouldn't reveal who they were speaking to because he didn't want them to be killed. Which means he's either lying about speaking to anyone, or the person they are speaking to has no authority since presumably the only people who would kill them for talking are the people who do. Market manipulation doesn't even seem like the main issue here, that seems like a foregone conclusion. It's that there's never been a real justification for the war in the first place, just a bunch of floating goalposts that changed based on when he was asked, so the main problem increasingly appears to be that he started the war for the purpose of making money off of the market manipulation. He even said [something in the first days of the war about making a lot of money](https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/5780543-us-oil-prices-trump/) that seems to support that idea. He's even bragging today in vague terms about Iran giving them[ "a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money".](https://thehill.com/policy/energy-environment/5798853-trump-iran-oil-gas-present-strait-of-hormuz/)
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Minimum_Nothing_9039 Mar 24, 2026 +8
I pay attention enough and had enough capital to make $320 off their game. So I got that going for me which is nice.
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Fickle-Molasses-903 Mar 24, 2026 +114
I guarantee the moment Democrats get into office: Independents and moderates: 'I just can't with these two parties. I mean, did you see the Democrats put their feet on the table inside the Oval Office?' Media: 'How decorum has fallen once Democrats are in charge.'
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silent_thinker Mar 24, 2026 +23
That’s even more reason for Democrats to go scorched earth. They’re going to be criticized no matter what, might as well be for something significant and meaningful.
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turningtop_5327 Mar 24, 2026 +19
Idc but I want democrats to punish this regime end to end
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Euphoric-Witness-824 Mar 24, 2026 +10
If they don’t this country is done. 
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flickh Mar 25, 2026 +4
“Can you imagine the fascism of sentencing the President after he left office for a crime he was already convicted of before he got elected? And then making him actually pay the lawsuits he lost?? Who elected the Democrats to be Hitler??” ^^ also, in this story, it wasn’t the democrats but courts but it’s still their fault amirite
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Klondike307 Mar 24, 2026 +39
This has happened multiple times since Trump began his second term, especially when the tariff flip flopping was happening last Spring.
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Nissir Mar 24, 2026 +66
If over the next 6 years there isn't a full house clean of government and people going to prison over shit like this for long periods of time, the American experiment is over.
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cjoaneodo Mar 24, 2026 +27
Duuuude, it’s been over since Bush v Gore!
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Nissir Mar 24, 2026 +20
Well if you want to get historical, they should have put Nixon in prison. Sets a real bad prescience that power means you are above the law.
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TheDevilsAdvokaat Mar 24, 2026 +9
"precedent" but yes.
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grnrngr Mar 24, 2026 +7
Citizens United
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Upstairs-Egg Mar 24, 2026 +86
I just want Republicans to care. Why the hell do they have no standards for the man they elected?
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FrightenedOfSpoons Mar 24, 2026 +55
Check out [Moral foundations theory](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Moral_foundations_theory). Conservatives are OK with bad stuff happening as long as it serves the in-group.
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Altered_Nova Mar 25, 2026 +15
A core principle of conservative ideology is that morality only applies to people, not actions. They literally believe people like themselves are inherently good and people different from them are inherently bad. A highly conservative person will twist themselves in knots to defend a member of their own tribe no matter what they are guilty of, while simultaneously exaggerating/feigning outrage to condemn outsiders for the most trivial or invented of offenses. Just compare the conservative reactions to the pizzagate conspiracy theory vs trump openly covering up the epstein files to see this behavior in action. This is why they constantly project their own crimes onto those whom they hate, and are completely unbothered by accusations of hypocrisy.
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linuxjohn1982 Mar 25, 2026 +5
My theory, is that this theory misses the mark a little bit. While yes most of it is true, where I think things differ is that they don't believe in good or bad..They **knowingly** have double standards and contradict themselves, because the goal is to win, not to be good people.
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mjb2012 Mar 24, 2026 +16
This doesn't get reported in right-leaning media bubbles. They're too busy being distracted by ... \*checks notes\* ... Somali Medicaid fraud? Or is it something new this week?
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Upstairs-Egg Mar 24, 2026 +6
Yeah that’s most likely it. They’re just constantly shielded from all of Trump’s treason, and he’s trained them so well to bark “fake news” that they literally do not believe it. It’s just so abysmal and disappointing that they don’t acknowledge how wicked Trump is.
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almondbutter Mar 24, 2026 +10
https://np.reddit.com/r/AskUS/comments/1k8evd8/why_are_maga_conservatives_so_into_owning_the_libs/mp5oqex/ >The progression can be traced back to a cultural shift rooted in denial. The advent of Trumpism marked a profound moment in American history - an era in which facts, reason, and objective truth became increasingly irrelevant to large swaths of the population. This denial was not born from ignorance alone; it was a strategic decision to reject the uncomfortable realities of a changing world.
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No_Inside_9463 Mar 24, 2026 +18
If they cared that means they would have to admit they were wrong about their orange jesus. If they admit that they were wrong, that means they would have to accept responsibility for everything this circus of an administration has done. Best we can do is blame the gays, the immigrants, Iran, and the poors for everything.
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TheDevilsAdvokaat Mar 24, 2026 +5
Republicans are the party of treason.
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jellyhessman Mar 24, 2026 +5
They are complicit in all this. The entire Republican party is a criminal organization.
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OldTobyGreen Mar 24, 2026 +54
"No punishment is too great for the man who makes his greatness on his country's ruin." - George Washington No fate suffered in the annals of human history could be considered cruel or unusual in light of what the GOP has inflicted upon the United States.
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Azoth-III Mar 24, 2026 +7
Wise words. Prescient words. We'll have to be sure to put them to use
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wookiewin Mar 24, 2026 +24
Am I hearing right that someone at SEC was also barred from investigating and they resigned in protest? Insane.
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Salt-Initiative-8159 Mar 24, 2026 +26
Lots of people noticing this today and that's probably why the markets are not responding to Trump's bullshit today. Everyone of these people should be jailed and it's another impeachable offense for Trump.
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restbest Mar 24, 2026 +36
If you’re an American invested in the stock market you’re the bag holder for the administration to trade against.
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PurpsMaSquirt Mar 24, 2026 +17
Imagine being upset at the idea of taxing billionaires more while turning a blind eye to this.
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SantosL Mar 24, 2026 +20
I lost something like 15% of my 401k over this weekend and absolutely love to see it funneled into some billionaires pockets. And they’ll get away with it due to a compromised opposition party.
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TheStoicSlab Mar 24, 2026 +9
I will vote for any non-republican that will drag every one of those fuckers into court.
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fudgeplank Mar 24, 2026 +30
mid terms the senate and house will flip democrate. then they can start investigatio and articles of impeachment.
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civil_politician Mar 24, 2026 +52
Dems just need to win all 35 senate seats no prob
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Unique-Coffee5087 Mar 24, 2026 +42
A simple flip won't do. We need a solid supermajority in both houses for it to stick. Otherwise, it will go nowhere. I don't think that can happen this year, even if the Democrats win every seat they run for (haven't done the math, though.). And then, when investigations are quashed, hearings are ignored, and Trump is "exonerated" by the Senate, the voters will say "See? The Democrats are in his pocket, too!" And for some reason this will cause the independents to vote Republican and name Democrats will stay home. I wish I were wrong.
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TheShipEliza Mar 24, 2026 +10
politics is a longer game. get 51(or better) and confirm as many judges as you can.
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Simmery Mar 24, 2026 +12
We need Democrats to throw out the Senate filibuster. It's time. 
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7BrownDog7 Mar 24, 2026 +5
Problem is you need enough Democrats who aren't doing their own insider trading. There's a reason neither party has passed a law preventing individual stock ownership while in office.
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SexyFat88 Mar 24, 2026 +7
There is only one party in America, the corporate party
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JeffSteinMusic Mar 24, 2026 +8
Exactly the sort of thing 70% of adult American society knew or should’ve known they were either voting for or not bothering to vote to prevent.
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faceintheblue Mar 24, 2026 +10
What a shame that anyone with that kind of access and half a billion dollars to throw around on the stock market is totally above facing the consequences of treason. Ah, well. Back to watching the United States burn itself to the ground, I guess...
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mattjf22 Mar 24, 2026 +7
They're toying with our economy making billions while we're getting raked over the coals.
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SpectrumofMidnight Mar 24, 2026 +6
The Republicans are not even hiding their scum and villainy anymore.
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No-Setting-2669 Mar 24, 2026 +5
Too coincidental to be a coincidence.. investigate and prosecute EVERYONE until you can’t prosecute anyone anymore!
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UrsaMajor7th Mar 24, 2026 +6
If only there were some way to identify such traders.
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WhiskeyTangoFoxy Mar 24, 2026 +4
Yes, by the government (SEC). They found nothing wrong.
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toomuchblack Mar 24, 2026 +5
Republicans love the money that America makes them and couldn’t care less about the people that make up America.
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Literally_Laura Mar 24, 2026 +3
I would love to see some actual consequences, but treason is the new black.
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Vbrasastation Mar 24, 2026 +3
Americans, this is YOUR money. Why are you just letting this dude rob it from you? Like he's literally just pulling your pants down and taking your money and y'all are like "oh yeah, thanks". Americans are really something 
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espinaustin Mar 24, 2026 +5
Krugman says when/if Dems get back the House they can easily find out who made these trades. I’m wondering if maybe New York state authorities can find out sooner?
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gotaflattire Mar 24, 2026 +2
He’s letting Americans get killed off to make himself rich, it’s happening in broad daylight, and absolutely no one will stop him. Keep that in mind the next time the “news” tries to rationalize his actions and just can’t seem to think of anything he’s doing wrong.
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nightimestars Mar 24, 2026 +5
The way my jaw stayed in place
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Nearby-Beautiful3422 Mar 24, 2026 +3
$2 billion on 2 trades right before a major announcement. Absolute blatant inside trading. No one is that good or lucky.
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Hyperion1144 Mar 24, 2026 +4
Treason? Again? It must be Tuesday.
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bognostrocleetus Mar 24, 2026 +5
Some people should go to prison over this!
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Jesus_of_Redditeth Mar 24, 2026 +4
So, SEC: you investigating this shit or no?
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chillin_n_grillin Mar 24, 2026 +4
They need to find who made those trades and prosecute them to the full extent of the law.
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-Ny- Mar 24, 2026 +3
Kleptocracy
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Nice_Block Mar 24, 2026 +4
Zero outrage from republicans.
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socrates_friend812 Mar 25, 2026 +4
This trade wasn't just a one-off, random, "whisper" once situation. It was the act of a consolidated, organized network of billionaire criminals who have been doing this for a long time. This is what they do. This is who they are. This is how they have operated their entire lives. Epsteinians are life-long, sadistic, megalomaniacal satanist opportunists who kill, steal, r***, lie and murder like the rest of us snack, watch TV, browse the internet & brush our teeth. And they will keep doing it. At every opportunity. And you will do nothing about it. No one will stop it. No one will do anything. It will go on. And you will forget about it. And I will forget about it. And everyone will just forget about it. And they will get away with it. Like they always do.
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freeshovacadoodoo Mar 25, 2026 +4
Is it also not seditious that Trump is telling his congressional loyalists to block all bills until the SAVE act is passed? Is that not the literal definition of sedition?
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External_Beat8153 Mar 25, 2026 +4
It’ll all come out that Trump again has grifted the financial system for the personal gain of him and his Crime Family. Fraud is completely and historically on brand for them. In the midst of all the horrible deaths and ruination, that vile thief and rapist lives out his demonic life, untouched by his actions. Only in America could this be allowed to happen and be protected when doing so.
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Ferrocile Mar 24, 2026 +3
Add it to the pile. Nobody can hold them accountable right now. Please vote.
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dentz1 Mar 24, 2026 +3
He is corrupt on so many levels. You have to be intentionally obtuse to believe otherwise.
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HeavyTea Mar 24, 2026 +3
Like Robin Hood site---- as lone as Elites do it, it is a victimless crime right? And taxpayer money is unlimited too. And .... and... just some light corruption
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J3musu Mar 24, 2026 +3
In present day America, this is what we call "just another Monday."
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acutelonewolf Mar 24, 2026 +3
Why is everyone against the Trump family and friends profiting from this War / Not a War? /S
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Global_Crew3968 Mar 24, 2026 +3
Fraud. Corruption. Theft. Treason.
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