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MagicJourneyCYOA3 days ago
+33
Yeah no joke. The US and Israel have basically gifted every country in the world with diamond-hard proof that your only guarantee of survival in a world where they exist is to have a big nuclear arsenal.
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Mike_Hawk_Burns3 days ago
+14
North Korea has been very open and blatant that they have no desire of slowing down nuclear weapon long before the Iranian war has begun. In fact, it was front page news when Trump first got back into office that North Korea said that they would not give up nukes. I think this has more to do with their partnership with Russia deepening than blaming the USA and Israel for this instance. Ramping up production takes a lot longer than a month and a half anyway. This has been what North Korea has wanted forever
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Antec-Chieftec3 days ago
+2
I mean North saw what happened with Saddam, Gaddafi and Ukraine. They weren't going to repeat their mistakes.
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Mike_Hawk_Burns3 days ago
+4
They have been developing nukes since way before that. That’s my point lmao. What the USA and Israel are doing right now is fine to criticize but North Korea is NOT doing it because of them lol the op commenter said. They have been doing this since the 1950s with the help of Moscow. They started increasing the process in the 80s and have been accelerating gradually since then. The main reason why they don’t have more now is due to sanctions and China tempering them a bit. But now they’re also more partnered with Russia since the Ukrainian invasion and seem to be benefitting from Russia deepening ties with them. Not everything is due to this administration right now. North Korea especially has nothing to do with it as their ideals for nukes have been going back decades especially with the help of the Soviet Union (let’s face it, Russia).
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ohst8buxcp73 days ago
+3
Or North Korea being capable of holding all of Seoul hostage while they systematically abuse, kill, and torture their own citizens is a perfect example of why the US is right to prevent Iran from obtaining nuclear weapons…
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EkstraOst3 days ago
+5
And Irans ability to cripple the world economy is a perfect example of something else I guess
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Settra_Rulez3 days ago
-1
That letting them obtain nuclear weapons would make the situation even worse by adding yet another layer of strategic deterrence on top of the proxies, ballistic missiles, and economic leverage they already possess.
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Sandslinger_Eve3 days ago
-1
Problem is just that US allied up with another state that systematically abuse and kill far more citizens to do it.
Two wrongs don't make a right.
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iamnotafbiagnt3 days ago
+6
Don’t we hear this every year?
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call-lee-free3 days ago
+2
Is Trump gonna send the big bad army against NK?
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External-Plastic-1543 days ago
+1
Nuclear weapons can be used against North Korea. The United States is authorized to use nuclear weapons against countries that possess them. And U.S. troops will not be deployed. South Korea will handle it anyway.
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call-lee-free3 days ago
+2
Well I figured since he's going after Iran because of them having nukes, I thought he would go after NK and any other country that has nukes.
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Settra_Rulez3 days ago
+1
Iran doesn’t have nukes, which is why it’s much easier to intervene there and not risk a nuclear detonation, which would happen if we intervened in North Korea.
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call-lee-free3 days ago
+1
Someone should tell Trump that because thats what his whole premise was plus "regime" change lol
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isekai_cheese1 day ago
+1
flyover some b52s would be done in a day or less. it would be really unwise for nk to do anything but demilitarize and actually build economic relations instead of hacking and nukes.
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IntelArtiGen3 days ago
+7
China too, +100 nukes / year. And China recently made moves to improve their cooperation with North Korea. And North Korea made obvious threats to bomb the US. I guess this whole situation with Iran is quite interesting for them. Also North Korea attacked ukrainian soldiers in the Ukraine war, and NATO never sent troops to kill russian soldiers in the same war.
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Fuckyoursadface3 days ago
+7
Ukraine isn't in NATO.
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IntelArtiGen3 days ago
So what? It's illegal to help them?
UN Charter, Article 51
> Nothing in the present Charter shall impair the inherent right of individual **or collective self-defence** if an armed attack occurs against a Member of the United Nations
\+ many countries can also intervene to defend the Budapest Memorandum
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Alert-Notice-75163 days ago
+11
So what is that you are blaming NATO for not sending troops in your comment. Whatever point you’re trying to make doesn’t make sense.
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Overall_Eye_9113 days ago
-2
Where did he blame anyone except for stating facts? You're projecting your own thoughts into his words
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Alert-Notice-75163 days ago
+1
> Also North Korea attacked ukrainian soldiers in the Ukraine war, and NATO never sent troops to kill russian soldiers in the same war.
Maybe just try reading the full convo if you want to join bud
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Overall_Eye_9113 days ago
+1
Did nato officially ever sent troops? Didn't north korea sent troops to Russia that joined the fight? Where's the blame?
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jsnxander3 days ago
+1
Do you mean 700 nukes currently or 100 nukes being built per year? Either way, and as importantly, China has delivery capabilities from both land and sea.
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IntelArtiGen3 days ago
+2
Between 2020 and 2030 they'll add approximately 100 new nukes per year. So they had ~300 and they could have >1000 by 2030. We're very used to this number of nukes being stable, but it's not anymore for China. Maybe they already have 800. And they had 600 few years ago.
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Island_Monkey863 days ago
+1
Trump justified the Iran on the basis of nuclear weapons. Are we going to see him invade North Korea next?
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Downtherabbithole_252 days ago
+1
No surprise to anyone with a brain cell -- even a blind person could see it coming.
And yet, for some reason, Trumpty sent love letters to NK's Dear Leader....
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Ultra_Metal2 days ago
This is why it was a good idea to get rid of Iran's nuclear program before it reaches maturity. The Islamic Republic cannot be allowed to act with total impunity like NK does.
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bummerdeal3 days ago
+1
Who can blame them? Look at what the US is doing
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Majestic-Attitude6153 days ago
I mean - once you get a couple - all the rest are somewhat immaterial - if you have 50 or 5000 - it doesn't make much of a difference - except possibly more opportunities for one to get "loose" (?)
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Antec-Chieftec3 days ago
+2
It's insurance that USA cannot bomb all their nuclear sites before they can launch a single one.
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Ok-Doubt-63243 days ago
-13
It was only the USA that committed war crimes against North Korea, bombing them over and over again like they did. Even when North Korea had nothing left, the USA just kept on bombing them. Hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians bombed to smithereens. Almost an entire civilization wiped out.
The American robber barons at work. Working the same today as they were yesterday.
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bummerdeal3 days ago
-2
Insane that you're getting downvoted for this. Americans are in constant denial of their nation's crimes against humanity.
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Ok-Doubt-63241 day ago
+1
The 'Operation Fury' folks will eventually have time to sit and digest what's actually been happening.
Till then ... o/
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C6H6COOH3 days ago
-7
So why isn't trump bombing them???
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Trick_Math420693 days ago
+14
Because they already have nukes...
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bummerdeal3 days ago
+3
The only reason they have nukes is because it's the only thing that ensures the US won't bomb you
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Moist-Fortune62773 days ago
-12
maybe US should attack them too...
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Alive_Internet3 days ago
+10
To do that, they would need to come up with a plan to fully eliminate North Korea’s nuclear launch capabilities before a single missile is launched. Unless North Korea is actively threatening the US, I don’t think it’s worth it.
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sparrowtaco3 days ago
+7
>they would need to come up with a plan to fully eliminate North Korea’s nuclear launch capabilities before a single missile is launched
That alone is not enough. They still have enough conventional weaponry pointed at South Korea to destroy Seoul and cripple the country's economy as an added deterrent.
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External-Plastic-1543 days ago
+1
Assessments of North Korea’s conventional weapons tend to be exaggerated. Their equipment is poor, has not been properly maintained, their air combat capability is essentially nonexistent, and their underground bases have effectively been neutralized. If their nuclear weapons are precisely targeted, North Korea is effectively finished.
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sparrowtaco2 days ago
+1
They have enough artillery scattered along the border to inflict tens of billions of dollars of damage in an opening attack. They don't need air combat or fancy equipment for that.
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Antec-Chieftec3 days ago
+1
Conventional weaponry and threat from China wasn't enough to deter USA from almost invading NK back in 2002. Only reason they didn't was because they needed more soldiers for Iraq instead.
Until NK makes a nuclear artillery shell like the W33 their artillery will never deter USA from invading them.
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