Norway is a major oil producer cutting fuel taxes because of an oil shock caused by a war it had nothing to do with. The Strait of Hormuz reaches further than most maps suggest.
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SeahorsechokerMar 27, 2026
+33
I like that last sentence. A reminder how something that is geographically limited can have global impact.
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GjrtsMar 27, 2026
+17
Everyone is talking about oil and LNG.
But this also affect aluminum and fertilizer. There is a world wide lack of fertilizer.
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AirewaltMar 27, 2026
+6
A lack of fertilizer was a major contributing factor to the start of wwii. We should be living in a time of near absolute abundance… the destabilizing effects of these wreckless air strikes cannot be understated.
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skikkelig-rasistMar 28, 2026
+1
> wreckless air strikes
they are NOT wreck-less. those strikes create wrecks all over
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KingPictoTheThirdMar 27, 2026
+3
Everyone already knew that except apparently the American public.
Here in India people flipped the day the war broke out and ran to get spare lpg cylinders.
Half the places in my city don't even sell dosa anymore in order to conserve fuel.
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FrozenTooniesMar 27, 2026
+70
12th leading producer in the world.
2M barrels a day.
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thereoncewasahatMar 27, 2026
+93
Also, unlike most of the world, Norway's oil is state owned (hence they're so rich); so if even they are concerned, then that's a sure sign the rest of us are bigly fucked.
Poverty and famine incoming.
Thank you, Israel and Trump.
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zack77070Mar 27, 2026
+18
I think most of the world's oil is state-owned. Looking at the top 10 only the US and Canada are fully private, Brazil and Russia have multiple companies but I believe the government still has final say, then like China, Iran, Saudi, etc are all fully state-owned.
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Deep_Zucchini_9878Mar 27, 2026
+9
Cries in Australian
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ZappyZaneMar 27, 2026
+1
Oz should bring back Holdens, but *steam powered*!
[Don't fear the coal](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMPr4jdzlBE) mate!
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Uncertn_LaaifeMar 27, 2026
+5
Canada fucked up with no State control. They are hard learning the lesson and will bite in their ass.
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fluid_sommerMar 27, 2026
+3
We do not have enough oil refineries to sustain ourselves, the millions of barrels of crude oil does nothing without that.
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GjrtsMar 27, 2026
+2
Norway only has one refinery left. It makes enough gasoline, but we must import diesel.
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chappinnMar 27, 2026
We’re not concerned. It’s just populist knee-jerking by the opposition
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jet30rayMar 27, 2026
Thanks to the mullahs you mean
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Logitech4873Mar 27, 2026
+10
Not of petrol and diesel.
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PrematuridMar 27, 2026
+33
I paid roughly 2.5$/L, or 9.46$/US Gallon today.
I am also not in favour of lowering the taxes. It is not great, but the inflation this will cause will be worse.
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Balja1989Mar 27, 2026
+15
Thats c****... Diesel is 29.60 NOK per L today here
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PrematuridMar 27, 2026
+11
Yeah, saw over 30NOK/L a few days a go. That made me have a double take.
Edit: luckily the price came down somewhat since then. Where I am at least.
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ClaysteadMar 27, 2026
+9
That’s 12 dollars a gallon for any Americans reading this
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Lee1138Mar 27, 2026
+2
I just saw 29.something NOK per Liter for diesel today.
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Balja1989Mar 27, 2026
+2
Just fueled 60L diesel for my car and 80L gas for my snowmobiles, "happy easter" 🥲😂
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MacknuMar 27, 2026
Its 23,5 here in Oslo area
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MacknuMar 27, 2026
+1
Diesel is 23,5nok/l today and 21,4nok/l for gas. You live in a really expensive place in Norway.
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Balja1989Mar 27, 2026
+1
Hammerfest, Oil/LNG capital of the north... I earn enough to pay for it, so it's not like it's a problem . But expensive, yes.
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MacknuMar 27, 2026
+1
Most things are usually far more expensive up in north, that is 6kr more per liter then Oslo area. Homes are a bit more expensive down here though.
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shadowofsunderedstarMar 27, 2026
+1
It's 27kr/L+ here
Near Ålesund
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jumpinthewatersniceMar 27, 2026
+1
What do you usually pay
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PrematuridMar 27, 2026
+5
5-7 dollars for a US gallon? 18-23 nok for a liter.
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Sir_KnumskullMar 27, 2026
+1
Why will it cause inflation when the prices get higher than before even with the cuts?
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PrematuridMar 27, 2026
-4
Because it is an artificial indirect subsidy by lowering the tax. When the price lowers, demand goes up, or in this case; when the price goes up, demand goes down. That means the people who would have been driving in a car, now take the bus or a train. That increases the efficiency for the money spent.
You now have an indirect subsidy where the tax money that would go to the state, indirectly goes out to the population, which everyone should by now know causes inflation. We are already having issues with getting our inflation down to 2%, and we are expecting rate hikes this year.
The fact that we now have an indirect subsidy means that the rate hikes may have to go on for longer than without it. That will cause stuff like mortages and loans to go up. People may end up trading a few hundred NOK less in fuel, for a few thousand more in loans.
A better way would be to not make the tax universal (as it is now), but only give the lowest earners an indirect subsidy. They are the ones that need it, and by subsidizing only them, we don't have to hike the rates quite as high and for as long.
Edit: When people who were going to spend money on fuel suddenly find them selves with money left over, they will spend it on something else. That increases the inflation. You get less for the same amount of money, or in this case, you get the same amount you normally get for your own money + the indirect subsidy from the state.
If the tax was still applied, the money spent on gas would mean less spent in other areas. That could bring food prices down for example.
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Sir_KnumskullMar 27, 2026
+4
But the prices wont go down, they will still be higher than before,, even with the subsidary? People will have less money than before the war. Im comparing with the inflation rate today/before the war while it seems you are arguing relative inflation after the war with/without subsidies.
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PrematuridMar 27, 2026
+2
The prices that you pay for a tank will be lower than what it would have been with a tax (or else they wouldn't have removed the tax). That difference is money you will spend elsewhere. That means you get the same mount of stuff you would be able to get if there was no situation that made fuel expensive, but you now have to pay more to get it. (your own money + the indirect subsidy)
I am not comparing the inflation rate. I am explaining how inflation increases with an indirect subsidy from the state.
Edit: There is also a difference between disinflation and deflation. The price won't go down to normal levels until Hormuz gets going again (and not for at least a month after that), but with an indirect subsidy, inflation will go up faster than without one.
Edit 2: I may also have read your comment incorrectly and answered the wrong question. Tell me if that is the case. My head is a bit busted at the moment.
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pag_elMar 27, 2026
Argumentet ditt er at hvis folk får beholde mer av sine egne penger, så er det negativt fordi de vil bruke det på noe annet enn at det går inn i statskassa? Som da ville blitt brukt av regjeringen på noe annet, etter at det har gått gjennom det byråkratiske tannhjulet. Elendig argumentasjon
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PrematuridMar 27, 2026
Nei, det er ikke et argument. Det er en forklaring på hvorfor finansk folk sier at dette vil føre til høyere renter på grunn av inflasjon.
Skatter generelt (om de er rett brukt) reduserer disponibel inntekt, og dette gjør til at folk kjøper mindre ting på grunn av at de har mindre penger.
Er dette en bra ting for oss? Ikke nødvendig vis, men en renteøkning mere enn forespeilet uten den ekstra inflasjonen kan gjøre et mye større utslag på pengeboka for de fleste enn dyr bensin/diesel.
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pag_elMar 27, 2026
Om vi betaler vår inntekt til staten slik at de bruker våre penger, eller om vi bruker de selv, resulterer i presis den samme inflasjonen. Poenget står seg ikke i denne saken
Er klar over at noen presse-favoritt «økonomer» påstår dette. Betyr ikke at det gir mening.
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ChillersMar 27, 2026
+1
Poor you it's 11USD in Australia
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StennanMar 27, 2026
+26
Which will cause consumer behavior to remain unchanged and thus not help eleviate the Supply/Demand imbalance of there being a 20% shortfall due to the Gulf crisis.
Higher prices do two things, either it spurs new production (unlikely since the infrastructure is relatively intact, the shipping is being clogged), or it reduces demand.
Rather than moving money from other goverment programs to maintain the same level of oil consumption or essentially borrowing on behalf of the whole population, governments should be incentivicing people to use it more efficiently.
I am not suggesting everyone needs to car pool, and lowering the speed limits in a country would be a drop in the bucket, but sooner or later prices will rise to the point where demand is lowered by 20%.
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SwornMar 27, 2026
+16
To be fair, increased oil prices is *great* for Norway, which is the northern equivalent of a gulf state. They're basically just using a bit of the extra income to prevent their own population being negatively impacted.
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JoonaJuomalainenMar 27, 2026
+6
Overall it's negative though when looking at other industries in the country.
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SwornMar 27, 2026
+2
Maybe, but Norway's stock market is up like 20% YTD and keeps climbing so it doesn't seem too bad.
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xnmylMar 27, 2026
+1
Aren't they a net exporter of oil and oil products?
They should be able to use additional oil export revenue to subsidize the increased cost of fuel and still have extra funds leftover
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GjrtsMar 27, 2026
+2
Norway eksport almost 100% of oil.
And reimport some diesel. 1/3 of cars are battery electric. We have limited need for oil.
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Corpus76Mar 27, 2026
+4
Norway relies more on its investments than on its oil nowadays. Overall this situation is a net negative for us.
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FywqMar 27, 2026
+11
Around 90% of cars sold in Norway are EVs, with EVs also being more than 50% of all cars in the country as far as I remember. I think this is to support transportation of goods and for those living out in the countryside. Norway is fairly big for it's population, especially given that Oslo and a few other coastal cities make up a big chunk of the population in a handful places, the rest is remote, mountainous and rural. Population density map: [norway.pdf](https://www.geo-ref.net/pdf/norway.pdf)
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Flimsy_Novel6624Mar 27, 2026
+3
32% of all cars in the country are EVs.
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GjrtsMar 27, 2026
+1
4% of cars sold this year is diesel powered. 0.3% are gasoline cars.
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Lee1138Mar 27, 2026
+3
Yeah, but there are still a lot of ICE cars on the roads. And practically all heavy transport still runs on diesel.
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AmericaninShenzhenMar 27, 2026
-1
Switch to an electric infrastructure and then these gasoline issues wouldn’t destroy economies.
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CupEcstatic2721Mar 27, 2026
+6
Due to the events in Iran, it looks like the global prosperity rankings are about to shift
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Island_Monkey86Mar 27, 2026
+2
Anyone wondering why 5 out of the top 6 happiest countries on earth are in the nordics, look no further.
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Scedasticity1Mar 27, 2026
+5
I think you accidentally a word.
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Island_Monkey86Mar 27, 2026
+1
Thank you, you are right!
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nplantMar 27, 2026
+1
Look no further than lowering gas taxes?
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svxaeMar 27, 2026
+1
hey! i thought 75% of them drive teslas
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SGT_BlueJayMar 27, 2026
+1
Meanwhile in CA, USA Newsom wont tax the rich and keeps adding gas tax.
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wynveenMar 28, 2026
+1
Yup and f****** the commoners in the process
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DeciusCurusProbinusMar 27, 2026
+1
India has done it too today.
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waiglMar 27, 2026
-4
Uh, isn't Norway the number one EV adopter country of Europe? Why do they car about gas and diesel prices so much?
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GjrtsMar 27, 2026
+14
It's mainly a problem for trucking, construction and forest and farming.
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waiglMar 27, 2026
-7
Electric trucks, including big semi-trucks with sufficient range and cargo capacity have been a thing for five to six years now. Construction equipment is also largely available in electric variants. Not so sure about agricultural vehicles, though.
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VasilievskiMar 27, 2026
+10
That’s not like you replace your country equipment every 6 years.
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MarB93Mar 27, 2026
+3
Transportation and agriculture sector is still very slow to adopt.
In total numbers there are 32% EV's, 32% Diesel and 24% Petrol cars on the road os of this month
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BrainBlowXMar 27, 2026
+5
because a significant portion of the population still uses gas fueled cars. The current price shock also affects the transportation industry, which in turn affects prices on everything else.
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ephemeralnerveMar 27, 2026
+2
Yes, well over 90% of _new_ cars sold are EVs. But that still leaves a lot of _old_ petrol and diesel cars on the roads.
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Separate_Mix_9714Mar 27, 2026
-15
The irony of the world's most aggressive "we're going green and banning ICE cars by 2025" country immediately slashing gas taxes the second the middle east gets spicy. turns out even a $1.6 trillion sovereign wealth fund can't buy you an escape from the reality of global oil prices.
"save the planet, but make sure my volvo xc90 is c**** to fill up first." lmao.
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GluckGluck999Mar 27, 2026
+19
Oil is used in a lot more than ice cars mate
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SimbakimMar 27, 2026
+9
You sound jealous
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Island_Monkey86Mar 27, 2026
+9
Some genuine advice. Take a minute to look at the bigger picture, the implications these higher prices have on people, on every day life, on getting to work, cost of living.
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xnmylMar 27, 2026
+4
> turns out even a $1.6 trillion sovereign wealth fund can't buy you an escape from the reality of global oil prices
That's literally exactly what's happening. The government has enough money they can balance out increased fuel costs. It's business as usual for them now instead of having to deal with increased fuel costs
Since they're a crude exporter, they're probably still making more profit than normal even with the decreased fuel taxes
Norway will probably be the best off country in the world from this crisis
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Think_Discipline_90Mar 27, 2026
+1
Whats ironic about this? Make it make sense
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IntelArtiGenMar 27, 2026
-14
They're subsidizing fossil fuels even more, which is sad in a country that is so rich and which already isn't using fossil fuels to produce electricity. Many countries aren't even able to do that, they are, yet they do this.
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SLAiNTRAXMar 27, 2026
+8
Norway has 50-60% tax + 25% VAT on fuel prices. It's not subsidizing, but lowering the tax amount. It's already at 11.7 USD per gallon for diesel.
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IntelArtiGenMar 27, 2026
-8
> It's not subsidizing, but lowering the tax amount
It's the same thing. Everything is taxed and subsidized everywhere in these countries, taxing something less is the same as giving it more money. You start from a situation where the gov gives out and collects a specific amount. You make the gov collect less: the fossil fuel industry has more money, the gov has less money. It's the same result as if it was subsidized more, except it's better for PR/Marketing to not say you're subsidizing fossil fuels more, you're just "lowering taxes".
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SLAiNTRAXMar 27, 2026
+6
That would make sense if it was a flat rate not a percentage of the price. The government is making more money if the price goes up. The price increase impacts every single chain that relies on fuel and gets passed down to the people as the businesses are for sure not paying for that shit.
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xnmylMar 27, 2026
+2
The Norwegian government also sells oil. They're almost certainly making more revenue than before the war started, even with the reduced fuel tax
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LizzixDMar 27, 2026
-1
It not enoff !!! I am suffring for rich asshold anymore or Isreal or USA f*** them and the world economy is just a shit show. We are many they are lest then us have more money for trillion for humans in there there hand and is sickening what are doing whit it nothing just greed and is so sad see other sitt there blind doing nothing when we have power realy what shit show. AND you deeer to say is stupid i wane se you country pay over 2 pund for driver a car or pay 7 pund for breed because that what going happen to us !! Maybe it in country you don't like shit happen to your self selfish ass hold i say. It is effecting us all
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BlueEyedBoggleFishMar 27, 2026
-10
This just proves the tax was opportunist tax grabbing
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JesusGotBoredMar 27, 2026
+8
lmao literally doesn't prove that in the slightest. What a weird comment
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BrainBlowXMar 27, 2026
+5
no it doesn't. This is a temporary measure that will cause more inflation.
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