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n_reineke Jul 15, 2020 +10132

Any way subs can control added text or links? Spammers are gonna have a field day in larger subs.

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LanterneRougeOG Jul 15, 2020 +4066

We added automod support for galleries so mods can restrict captions or urls. We updated the [automod docs](https://meet.google.com/linkredirect?authuser=0&dest=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.listnook.com%2Fwiki%2Fautomoderator%2Ffull-documentation), yesterday. Also, we are planning to update our post requirements feature to include optional rules for galleries. These are the rules that we are considering: * Captions are optional/required/disabled * URLs are optional/required/disabled * Link domain restrictions (if URLs are not disabled) * Min/max number of gallery items Are there any other post requirements that you’d find helpful for galleries? >Spammers are gonna have a field day in larger subs. All outbound links go through same spam filters as link posts.

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PitchforkAssistant Jul 29, 2020 +116

Have you considered adding some form of OCR support /u/AutoModerator? It'd be really sweet if we could define rules like these: image-text#0: ['made'] image-text#1: ['with'] image-text#2: ['mematic'] min-ocr-confidence: 80% modifiers: image-text#0: includes image-text#1: includes image-text#2: includes action: remove message: Use something other than mematic or crop out that annoying watermark. I've considered making a third-party bot like this, but the biggest problem would be paying for hosting since OCR for even one sublistnook takes a fair bit more processing power than my Raspberry Pi can handle. Unlike myself, that shouldn't be a huge issue for listnook.

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n_reineke Jul 15, 2020 +1054

In reference to spammers, you have "smarter" ones linking to their own or an alt self-post, which then lead to the spam sites. Sometimes even just "check out u/ for more like it". So in our case, total shutoff is definitely the preference, which we have with AM, thanks 😊

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GammaBreak Jul 15, 2020 +139

> In reference to spammers, you have "smarter" ones linking to their own or an alt self-post, which then lead to the spam sites. This has been the latest trend with some bots. Their names are always something like "DirtyErikaSlut", and they just spam NSFW groups with quick comments like "S***!" or "so hot, awesome!". A listnookor sees the username and thinks it's a gonewild poster and clicks their profile, and the spam link is pinned to their userprofile.

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fapenabler Jul 15, 2020 +35

Briannabot, which has now switched to Erikabot since presumably people started blocking the name "Brianna". It's annoying but I catch them fast because of the sheer amount of comments they make. The other common spam lately is with stolen accounts. I'm like, you somehow managed to steal the passwords of thousands of Listnook accounts, and burning them all on c**** spam that no one will ever fall for is what you do? Really? If you spent that much energy on making money legitimately you would probably make more.

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KidneyKeystones Jul 16, 2020 +26

They would make more just selling the stolen accounts to marketing firms. Nabbing a mod or a big user in certain subs, like movies or games, they salivate for that. Undisclosed product placement is the best product placement.

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fapenabler Jul 16, 2020 +14

They honestly would. I'm just baffled at the amount of technical skill that goes into stealing that many accounts, and how it's completely wasted.

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EmilyU1F984 Jul 16, 2020 +7

There's not much technical skill used in most cases. People are stupid and reuse login data. You simply buy a huge list of login credentials on the darkweb, and then try them out on Listnook. Loads of those list used to be taken from random small forum breaches, but nowadays they are mostly from major breaches. And if Fritz.Karl@gmail.com used hunter2 on both Listnook and whatever p*** site got hacked, he's already lost. You can check whether passwords are associated with your email address yourself: https://haveibeenpwned.com/ Which means if you already have access to thee credential dump of millions of users, and don't have much use for random Listnook accounts, just burning them to spam Listnook doesn't really do much effort.

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KidneyKeystones Jul 16, 2020 +9

Great at stealing, shit at selling? Maybe they got 6-7 figures from the p*** spam people, never know. Some marketing/PR people just send private messages to bigger users, and they work out a "salary", instead of buying the account. It's a lot more believable when it's the same person operating the account.

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Arson_ist Jul 15, 2020 +107

I should make an account name like that and just pin the url for a rickroll

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Norci Jul 15, 2020 +32

Oh that's not even the half of it. There's entire spamrings running sublistnooks dedicated exclusively to promoting each-other's spammy content. Take a look at a NSFW example, r/Cam_Sluts. Restricted submissions, camsite reflink sticky, all posters spam same promo message in comments. Users and mods share many similar p*** subs with each-other circulating promotions, some are users here but mods there, like r/PornFinder. All subs generic enough to create interest of a random user through x-posts they share all over NSFW p*** network. Reported it to admins few months ago, got confirmation they received it, nothing.

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Charles-Monroe Jul 15, 2020 +13

There's also a huge spamring that posts links to RealPornClips, but have recently started using redirect URLs to bypass filters. Strange thing is, I see moderators regularly removing the offending posts, but never banning them.

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THE_FORMIDABLE_MULK Jul 15, 2020 +13

These spammers make so many new accounts that if you ban one, there’s 100 new ones to take their place. Banning every one of those accounts would be a lesson in futility.

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Charles-Monroe Jul 15, 2020 +4

Every time I see these particular RPC spammers, I tag them with an updated number of times I've seen them and screenshot it. There's a core group of about 8 or 10 accounts that consistently pop up on various nsfw subs, get removed, but posts again in the same thread hours later, seemingly never being banned. But, I do agree though with your statement when it concerns other types of spam. For example, on the sub I moderate it has become futile to ban the snapchat and o******* megalink etc. spammers, so it's just part of my daily routine to remove them if automod or the spam filters didn't catch it.

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xxfay6 Jul 15, 2020 +33

At least with those, the extra step is usually enough for most users to figure it out.

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +37

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xxfay6 Jul 15, 2020 +12

True, always a better idiot. But at least most of the time it's enough of a deterrent. Last post of those we got, I was actively looking at /new since we were dealing with an active situation (I think it was a ban evader). Saw one of their posts pop-up, just the same picture, still no links. Pretty much just replied "f*** off we've got more important shit to do right now".

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RapMastaC1 Jul 16, 2020 +20

May be helpful to allow only those who met a min criteria either for posts in a sub listnook (or in total) and age of account. There are still smart ones that take the long road, but the quick 'up and attem' spammers are the worst offenders in my experience.

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[deleted] Aug 4, 2020 +78

This kind of sucks on mobile. If someone posts a rectangular picture, I can only see the top square and it won't let me tap and see the whole thing.

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ashcan_not_trashcan Aug 5, 2020 +19

You were right. It sucks on mobile. You can't click on it so you can zoom in. It gets stuck between pictures frequently. Slow to load. Captions get truncated. Did they only test this in a browser? It's half baked like a Google product.

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Liljoker25 Aug 4, 2020 +31

That's what I'm saying and everyone keeps saying open a new tab like what?

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[deleted] Aug 4, 2020 +18

That is wildly counterintuitive and far more effort than looking at a post on Listnook should require

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ursixx Aug 4, 2020 +34

And they don't zoom. Take forever/ long time to open. And sometimes they don't even open.Android user.

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Novel_Fox Aug 4, 2020 +25

Same here. It's stupid and pointless if you can't see whole image.

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DevoNorm Aug 5, 2020 +10

Maybe that's something they'll get around to in time. Until then, I won't be using it.

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yomnmnm Jul 15, 2020 +204

Will mods have control over individual images or is it a full-post deal? Concerned that Listnook is going the way of Imgur "meme dumps."

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BackhandCompliment Jul 16, 2020 +25

Honestly it should be an all or none deal. Mods shouldn’t be able to selectively edit my post before posting. Maybe one of the image has relevant context that calls out one of the other images, for example, and removing it means the post displays in much different light than was originally intended. This would be similar to mods being able to pick and choose which paragraphs of a text post displayed.

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DerekL1963 Jul 15, 2020 +54

>Concerned that Listnook is going the way of Imgur "meme dumps." Only if the mods of a given sublistnook allow that to happen.

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yomnmnm Jul 16, 2020 +26

I'm signposting to come back in a month for an aged like milk post.

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YannisALT Jul 15, 2020 +185

I run 3 image subs. 20 is way too much. I need a 5-image limit setting. Already making a rule for it. Because I don't have that 5-image limit, now I will be removing posts and pissing off users because nobody reads or follows rules until after their post is removed or they are banned. I might just disable it until it is changed. But I will still use it to make posts to my own subs. So I'm glad to have this ability. It really makes your website look like it has kept up with the other big websites.

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NZNoldor Jul 15, 2020 +20

Not being facetious here, genuine question - what are the issues you see with having too many images?

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ontopofyourmom Jul 15, 2020 +19

It takes more time to mod, would be my guess.

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ModsDontLift Jul 15, 2020 +113

Pretty cool! Now what are you and the other admins planning to do about subs that promote literal genocide, like r/sino? Are you just gonna sit on your fat, ineffectual asses like usual and continue to pretend you give a shit about hate speech? Do you ever feel sad about how bad you are at your job?

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +21

Top post was “debunking genocide”. Listnook needs to stop f****** around with they’re treatment of speech in their platform. Either their an objective bystander who isn’t responsible for their users or their users represent their brand and they take full responsibility. They can’t just flip flop between whatever the f*** is the most convenient.

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daninger4995 Jul 15, 2020 +2410

Will sublistnooks be able to turn off the ability to add links? I like the feature of multiple pics but I have a feeling those annoying t shirt spammers are gonna abuse it

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LanterneRougeOG Jul 15, 2020 +892

Yep, I replied to a similar comment: [https://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/hrrh23/now\_you\_can\_make\_posts\_with\_multiple\_images/fy5weyp/](https://www.listnook.com/r/announcements/comments/hrrh23/now_you_can_make_posts_with_multiple_images/fy5weyp/)

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greendude120 Jul 15, 2020 +222

the T shirt spammers have been going on for 5 months are u guys ever gonna do something about it? i reported it right from the start and no change yet.

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VoraciousGhost Jul 16, 2020 +34

They've been here for years and years

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DopamineServant Jul 15, 2020 +149

Jumping on this to ask: Can you stop with the nag spam of adding an e-mail to my account? Why do you need to show me a pop-up everytime I open listnook?

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +31

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Colosphe Jul 15, 2020 +34

Email is more targeted marketing information, so no.

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polyworfism Jul 15, 2020 +11

I feel like nothing is being done about those. If anything, they've gotten worse

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KaitRaven Jul 15, 2020 +11

Well, it seems they are having to get more and more creative. Early on it was real blatant, with direct links to the stores. Then they started putting the links in fake comments with a co-conspirator. Then they needed to use redirect links. The most recent one I saw didn't have a link at all, but said they would PM you the location. So it seems like there is something going on to make it more difficult.

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IceSki117 Aug 3, 2020 +385

This update is pretty bad. Its broken several useful things in the mobile app. Particularly the zoom function and full screen of images. The slideshows cut out the edges of the images and sometimes important information. A prime example of this is on r/NMSCoordinateExchange. That sub has a ton of image sharing with location data in the bottom left of the image, which gets cut off every time the poster uses this new function. Whoever designed this update clearly didn't think it through well enough for the mobile app.

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Brando4774 Aug 4, 2020 +79

I'm upset I had to dig so deep for this comment, how can people deal with this? There's posts I simply can't enjoy because the images are all cropped to 1x1 full instagram spec and there is simply no way to view them full screen. Not to mention captions that trail off into the distance!

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Decipher Aug 4, 2020 +38

Yeah it's really poorly implemented. Cropping the images down to a square and not having an option to click for full screen is a massive oversight. Even scrolling doesn't work half the time. I can't even access the third image in the gallery for this post!

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tsgarner Aug 4, 2020 +34

I'm having the exact same problem. u/LanterneRougeOG Anyone reporting this bug? I'm on android listnook app and the images are cut off on top and bottom and you can't tap or pinch to zoom.

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elidepa Aug 4, 2020 +12

I've had exactly the same problem with the Android version of the official app. What frustrates me the most is that they are heavily pushing the mobile app and trying to get people to use it more. So why do they not prioritize it when implementing new features?

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LanterneRougeOG Aug 4, 2020 +113

There will be an update coming shortly that allows you to click on the image to see it full screen

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CosbyAndTheJuice Aug 11, 2020 +47

So, it's been a week and there is STILL no way to just view an image full size. Jesus Christ how long does it take to give us an ability we used to already have

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Redeemer206 Aug 18, 2020 +17

Agreed. This is very frustrating. Pretty much makes me skip any posts with multi-pic uploads now. Much rather people continue with pic-sharing sites in the meantime

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The_True_Dr_Pepper Aug 4, 2020 +43

Will this also allow me to see the whole caption?

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[deleted] Aug 4, 2020 +59

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arth_vandelay Aug 4, 2020 +19

And download it too please!

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Odyessus56 Aug 7, 2020 +7

I'd been 3 days since you posted that response. Where is the update?

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BadassCharlene Aug 4, 2020 +14

I have this same problem and it's super annoying

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iamthatis Jul 15, 2020 +2530

Yay! Congrats on shipping, this is a nice feature to have natively. Also appreciate your help in making the API for this clear for devs and answering questions so that my Listnook app Apollo now has it integrated nicely for launch day. :) Was a big help! As the brits say, you and u/uzi are top blokes!

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LanterneRougeOG Jul 15, 2020 +928

Thanks for adding support for galleries so quickly! Glad to help out

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punywhale Jul 15, 2020 +214

bug - using old listnook, i clicked the link to this post and the post showed up fine, but in 'new listnook' form, and then i clicked 'comments' and was taken to a completely blank page. fix redirect to old listnook comment section thx i was able to come to the comments section here after going back to r/all/rising and clicking 'comments' under the post, instead of the post itself.

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LanterneRougeOG Jul 15, 2020 +240

>then i clicked 'comments' and was taken to a completely blank page. fix redirect to old listnook comment section thx Oops. Yep that's a bug. I filed a bug ticket for us to get that fixed asap

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Professional-Double Jul 15, 2020 +58

It also doesn't show up for those of us who use Old Listnook Redirect browser extensions...

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acog Jul 15, 2020 +9

Could this be a RES thing? I use RES and experienced the same issue. (For anyone confused: RES is Listnook Enhancement Suite, which I consider a must-have when using a desktop browser.)

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iamthatis Jul 15, 2020 +201

Legit wouldn't have happened without the nice examples. A++

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Tacer8 Jul 15, 2020 +23

Yoo I forgot this sub existed, are you like above the level of mod like a super mod on steroids?

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +39

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[deleted] Jul 16, 2020 +6

> I think. Yes. Admins can ban and shadowban accounts from listnook. Mods can ban accounts from specific sublistnooks they mod.

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imariaprime Jul 15, 2020 +16

This is what I was hoping to find out, and now I don't even need to check /r/apolloapp. Beautiful.

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +26

They publicized the API ahead of time so devs could get cracking on it to launch with the main site? That's dope

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MatthiasSaihttam1 Jul 15, 2020 +15

/u/LanterneRougeOG This is such a refreshing change compared to Twitter slowly sucking 3rd party clients dry. Apollo definitely makes Listnook a more pleasurable experience for me. I love it.

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seariously Jul 15, 2020 +538

Is there a way to link to the gallery of images directly and see them all inline on a page like an Imgur gallery? If so, can they be displayed in a thumbnail grid? And can the images order by changed by drag/drop or ordered by filename or mod date after uploading?

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LanterneRougeOG Jul 15, 2020 +206

>Is there a way to link to the gallery of images directly and see them all inline on a page like an Imgur gallery? There is a direct link to each gallery, however it doesn't show them all inline. It's something we'd consider but first we want to see how the current version is used. >And can the images order by changed by drag/drop or ordered by filename or mod date after uploading? We'll be adding editing support, shortly, but we won't allow listnookors to re-order the images after submission. When editing, you'll be able to change captions or delete an image(s)

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seariously Jul 15, 2020 +40

And can the images order by changed by drag/drop or ordered by filename or mod date after uploading **but before submitting**? Being able to sort images is incredibly useful especially in sports subs where images could reflect rankings or teams within a division or conference.

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Coolboypai Jul 15, 2020 +14

Just tried it. You are able to sort images by dragging and dropping them before you submit the post.

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bwaredapenguin Jul 15, 2020 +281

Let me see if I got this straight. You implemented a gallery upload of pictures but intentionally left out a way to view the gallery of pictures? Almost sounds like this was created to inflate clicks on the site.

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KidneyKeystones Jul 16, 2020 +16

Read our new announcement, same as the old announcement; Half-baked feature/rule, glaringly obvious subterfuge when reading responses, and only ~5 years late! Listnook is a f****** sophomoric joke.

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Init_4_the_downvotes Jul 15, 2020 +83

"We made the power point presentation click through 20 slides bullshit for the best keto recipes version of an image gallery"

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orbital223 Jul 15, 2020 +44

I mean, they made a video player that can't play videos most of the time, so it's kind of their thing...

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SkyeAuroline Jul 15, 2020 +126

Because it was. Same as v.listnook not allowing direct links.

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MarkPapermaster Jul 15, 2020 +65

One thing I hate about hosting on listnook is if mods delete it it's gone, if a user deleted his account it's gone, ect etc etc.

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SkyeAuroline Jul 15, 2020 +55

I upload everything through imgur for a reason. Survives longer if nothing else.

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MarkPapermaster Jul 15, 2020 +32

Me as well. If I upload something I want to be in control of it, not the mods or listnook.

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TopMacaroon Jul 15, 2020 +41

F*** listnook video posts, I just stopped sharing them instead of forcing people to visit the site.

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MarkPapermaster Jul 15, 2020 +25

I always download those and rehost them myself before sharing. They don't embed either.

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Doomed Jul 15, 2020 +23

Not inflate clicks, inflate ad views. You can't just scroll through an ad pane like you could if it was part of a gallery.

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InPsychOut Jul 15, 2020 +547

This is a feature I'd been hoping for since I started using Listnook. Thank you for implementing it!

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +601

I ate a poopie

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LanterneRougeOG Jul 15, 2020 +347

[high five](https://media.giphy.com/media/120jXUxrHF5QJ2/giphy.gif)

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shruggletuggle Jul 15, 2020 +101

Almost had a heart attack, I was scared of a rick roll

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atomheatmothersweet Jul 15, 2020 +37

Getting Rick rolled by the higher ups of listnook would not surprise me

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French-Robin42 Jul 15, 2020 +192

Now, um, how do I do it?

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +376

Link seems to be dead on old listnook? Is there any plan to let it work on old listnook? Or I'm just stupid and it works.

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Shegham Jul 22, 2020 +26

YOU HAVEN'T DONE SHIT TO ANY OF THE R/Politics Mods NOW GIVE ME A REAL HUMAN ANSWER ME u/spez - Why won’t the admins address the most inciteful, violent, harassing, and brigading sub, /r/politics? They endorse this hate in their monthly mod newsletters. I remember /u/spez hates gays (remember pulse?) so when will he resign? /r/politics on the London attack: "I just hope the people who were on that bridge were redneck Republicans like you so the slaughter was justified." [+63] https://i.redd.it/1latls7dqeny.jpg /r/politics "Let's put arsenic in drinks and slip it to Trump supporters" "All gun owners should have their guns taken away from them and then be executed" http://i.imgur.com/Pr5Fnvs.png "I'm going to say something unpopular here. When I heard that someone had shot Republicans, my first immediate hope was that someone finally did something about McConnel.https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/6jgg1d/mitch_mcconnell_refused_to_meet_with_group_that/djea1i2/?st=J4DHK2G4&sh=78ada641 "That is correct. The shooter is a true patriot". "Hunting Season for the Despicable Republicans on The Hill is now OPEN!!!! No Licenses required, no Minimums ... so Hunters, Bag All You Want!!!!!"https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/6hbvu3/no_political_disagreement_justifies_steve_scalise/dix59kg/ [Regarding Republicans] "What else can be done?", "Going to the homes of Republican lawmakers in the middle of the night, dragging them into the street, and turning them into tree ornaments [Lynching]." https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/6auqyn/the_head_of_the_census_resigned_it_could_be_as/dhht4d8/?st=j2ndxt69&sh=2a41b6c8 "Some people will not go to the grave quietly, like the GOP hopes. Some will defend themselves and fight for their lives." "That's justified, too." "All rich people deserve to die." "Actually, I take that back. The rich aren't people." "This is a very dangerous game these guys are playing, and it's honestly looking like we might need to start sharpening our guillotines" https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/6h74it/gunman_opens_fire_on_gop_congressional_baseball/diwuixs/ "Guerilla warfare and we control and know major metro areas. That and the fact that everyone has a family." "It would be brutal, bloody and we would have to commit war crimes but that's how it would have to be done." "I'm okay with forced re-education camps for Trump supporters. They'll still get treated better than the kids in the child detention centers" https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/9j239r/an_outrageous_move_by_chickensht_gop_as_grassley/e6o69of/?sh=3eca0d1d&st=JMJAZ4O8 "I’m tired of this shit and am ready for another Civil War. That, or let us go. We Metros do not want to be part of this bullshit anymore." https://old.listnook.com/r/politics/comments/9i2m0l/on_november_6_vote_like_the_whole_world_depended/e6ggro9 "I want McConnell to suffer a terrible fate before he dies." https://www.ceddit.com/r/politics/comments/9lh0kc/mitch_mcconnell_is_killing_the_senate/e76tr7c/ "Good for you Americans that see these scumbags (democrat and republican) and call them on their bullshit. Go ahead, doxx the f*** out of them. Make them feel uncomfortable in their own homes. Make them feel threatened and insecure. Might just make them think twice about serving the people instead of f****** the people." https://listnook.com/r/politics/comments/9lhh75/my_husband_rand_paul_and_our_family_have_suffered/e76wd78/ I really hate myself for feeling this way, but I sort of wish someone had shot a bunch of GOP Senators to change the math on the vote. https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/9lv1u0/man_threatens_to_shoot_members_of_congress_if/e7a0e66/ He's been posting pro-Trump and pro-Kavanaugh stuff on Facebook, just not publicly. I feel like outing him. https://www.listnook.com/r/politics/comments/9llwlw/facebook_employees_outraged_over_top_execs_public/e77qc21/ Jesus f****** Christ. My wishes for how we punish the GOP have gotten very dark. https://www.listnook.com/r/politics/comments/9lqxve/susan_collins_senate_speech_was_a_cruel_attack_on/e78yu1g/ I hope people vote in november so we can get the political (or real) guillotines ready for the asswipes. F*** it. The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/9lqxve/susan_collins_senate_speech_was_a_cruel_attack_on/e78yu1g/ I hope the next maga meeting results in a mass shooting. https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/9lz2qd/megathread_brett_kavanaugh_confirmed_to_the/e7aksbh/ I have the spine, the guns, and The People. I’ve resigned myself to dying or being put in jail, it’ll make me a f****** hero. https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/9lvmrg/supreme_court_could_lose_legitimacy_if_not_viewed/e7adqzs/ F*** the Republicans. F*** the South. F*** the flyover states... https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/9lxw3t/discussion_megathread_final_senate_confirmation/e7ai6a2/?sh=169f0692&st=JMXVGE72 I'm not wishing violence against her, but, although I'm agnostic, when she does die, I hope it turns out hell is real and she is tormented for all eternity. https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/9lxevw/susan_collinss_brett_kavanaugh_speech_was_the/e7a7rzt/ If we can eradicate... http://magaimg.net/img/6e09.png Donald Trump is the worst president in history. His presidency is an existential threat to our entire species. He should be removed immediately by military coup, and his supporters should be punished. https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/9mdrf0/the_trump_administration_has_entered_stage_5/e7dvdhz/ F*** if it gets me banned, im going to say it - the moment that Kavanaugh makes it legal for the executive to pardon any crime, we become a dictatorship and it's time for violent f****** revolt. F*** that. https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/9lxw3t/discussion_megathread_final_senate_confirmation/e7aifrw/ Violence should be a last resort, but nothing should be off the table. It's too late for voting alone to save us. https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/9mrnm1/bernie_sanders_authoritarian_leaders_around_the/e7gti3j/ How do you be civil with someone who actively denies the existence of a well-proven and already-occurring planetary environmental catastrophe? With a rope and a tall tree? https://www.listnook.com/r/politics/comments/9n1djr/hillary_clinton_you_cannot_be_civil_with/e7j35wp/?context=3 It's funny how I thought the other day, "You know, if Secretary Mattis were to stage a military coup in the country, I think I'd actually be okay with that." https://www.listnook.com/r/politics/comments/9n4mzq/morning_consult_poll_bernie_sanders_is_most/e7jrog6/ How do you remove people from power when they remove the legal avenue for removing them from power? By killing them, the French way. https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/9nj1ly/opinion_democracy_in_danger_in_georgia/e7mr7nh/ Start hanging Republicans. https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/9o2kcr/us_plans_to_expand_tent_camp_in_texas_for/e7qzzf1/ They should bomb it. Edit: I stand by my statement https://snew.notabug.io/r/politics/comments/9o58cw/nyc_republican_headquarters_vandalized/e7rgbst/ I am equally glad that their personal senses of dignity and self worth will likely be decimated as well, adding the psychological anguish of hopelessness, worthlessness, and an inability to financially support their families to the physical pains of poverty. https://np.listnook.com/r/politics/comments/9o86je/trumps_60_minutes_interview_once_again_reveals/e7sez4u/

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LordofNarwhals Jul 15, 2020 +884

Any way to get this working on [old.listnook.com](https://old.listnook.com/)? Or do we have to wait for Listnook Enhancement Suite to add support for it. edit: For example: [imgur albums work perfectly fine on old.listnook.com](https://i.imgur.com/AEeeGLV.png) so [I don't see why the new Listnook albums shouldn't](https://i.imgur.com/VrFit1b.png). (both pictures were taken without RES and without being signed in). edit2: [Looks like it's in the works so that's good.](https://np.listnook.com/r/modnews/comments/hrs2h7/now_you_can_make_posts_with_multiple_images/fy6ma4l/) > At the moment you can only view the gallery on old Listnook if you click the direct link and open the webview. We are looking into adding them to expandos and post details on old Listnook, but I don't have a timeline yet. Thanks to /u/oceanjunkie for linking that comment.

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +107

They are probably banned from acknowledging old listnook cause it doesn't make them enough money

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CupolaDaze Jul 15, 2020 +40

This is the answer. New listnook feels like it's emulating all the other social media sites. They want people to join. Makes sense. They obviously made a choice to alienate a portion of their users that strongly prefer old listnook because they knew they would gain more users with bubbly modern social media ui instead of the mid 2000's forum aesthetic. I prefer old listnook. But it isn't as attractive to new users. That's all there is to it. With new listnook they can add features like chat, and profiles that people didn't ask for and many actively despise.

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Zaccory Jul 15, 2020 +366

they're trying to move users to new listnook, features that only exist there is how they incentivize it

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Carvinrawks Jul 15, 2020 +286

The day I have to stop using old.listnook.com is the last day I use listnook. That, or when rif stops working. This site has been dying a slow death. At least when dig died it happened fast.

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salientsapient Jul 15, 2020 +105

New Listnook is if a vuvuzela horn was a website.

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SuperMajesticMan Jul 15, 2020 +18

>The day I have to stop using old.listnook.com is the last day I use listnook. > >That, or when rif stops working. Are you me?

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Pece17 Jul 15, 2020 +11

RIF is the last frontier for me. I basically use RIF 90% of the time versus old.listnook/RES 10%. RES is great but I just rarely want to browse Listnook on computer, since RIF experience is so good. I can even do almost all mod duties on my sublistnook via RIF.

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Carvinrawks Jul 15, 2020 +5

I use RIF 99% of the time. I have an account for an art project that I use desktop browser listnook for. It's easier to spam the same link to 20 sublistnooks on desktop 😅 Just evidence that this platform is becoming trash.

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SenorBirdman Jul 15, 2020 +9

I use this site exclusively on a third party app on my phone so my user experience has been pretty consistent for a while, except when they took a little while to get support for vlistnook sorted.

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ClassyJacket Jul 15, 2020 +157

I will literally *never* use the new listnook It's worse in every way. That's the day I finally leave forever after 12 years.

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xsvfan Jul 15, 2020 +35

Sadly the reason why we joined a while ago is no longer the direction of the website

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +34

Yeah, it is so f****** bad in every which way imaginable.

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shavegoat Jul 15, 2020 +102

Whenever someone use It will be just another post I will not understand/view in listnook is fun (app) and old listnook. Probably downvote too (sorry. It's my way to protest against it) I basically skip listnook gifs because they (probably) make it purposely shitty to load

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poorly_timed_leg0las Jul 15, 2020 +34

Lol they definitely do. Been saying this for years. Imgur is another one.

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shavegoat Jul 15, 2020 +12

Imgur is shitty on mobile. If you load the image in the desktop version it will load with higher res and quicker. On mobile they do a lot of compression who probably is processed on their server and it's delayed as f*** since so many requests

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Jealentuss Jul 15, 2020 +36

That's fine I don't need them then. I'm sticking to old Listnook.

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Shadow703793 Jul 15, 2020 +169

They don't care about old listnook. They want people to move to new listnook. They'll probably shut down old listnook in another year or so.

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Wyrm Jul 15, 2020 +58

They *said* they'd keep it around. Not that it guarantees anything. https://old.listnook.com/r/beta/comments/8lv96l/feedback_please_dont_ever_remove_oldlistnookcom/dziwf1p/

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Shadow703793 Jul 15, 2020 +34

Listnook Admins say many things but don't necessarily keep their word lol.

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Samoman21 Jul 15, 2020 +55

Which is funny cause new listnook is complete c***.

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FizixMan Jul 15, 2020 +58

F****** this. "Oh, we see you have a 16:9 or ultra-wide monitor? Let's just go ahead and cram everything into 800 pixels." "Oh, you like skimming through the article titles to find the interesting ones? Let's just cram a bunch of partially visible and expandable content in there to make it painful." Almost everything about it screams a design that was made in photoshop that "looked good" and done with little thought about usability and practicality.

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izpo Jul 15, 2020 +83

if this is the case, I'll probably find something else... 4chan here I come...

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2134123412341234 Jul 15, 2020 +52

4chan getting heaps of ~~new~~ returning users ever since listnook started shooting itself with each new announcement.

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +121

Awards are the trashiest thing I've seen. Gold was fine by itself. Even then it was a bit douchey. Edit: F***

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +62

Have you seen the FAQ or wiki for /r/lounge? It's impossible to tell if they're serious or not. https://i.redd.it/vxxgb0da0dx31.png This one time, I got gold, and it bugged out and gave me more time on listnook premium than it should have. I posted it on /r/lounge because it thought it was mildly funny. *A moderator removed my post because they saw it as begging for gold.* That's when I took that screenshot. It's like a whole sublistnook for Type-A personalities or something. Absolute insanity.

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Metallica93 Jul 15, 2020 +6

I just got R.E.S. the other day after years on here. Super nice and *motherfucking dark mode*. Looks like Imgur-hosted images work the way you said, but Listnook-hosted images mean opening up a new tab :/

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YannisALT Jul 15, 2020 +17

In the main post he made a week or two ago, he said the setting to enable it/disable was coming to old.listnook in a few weeks. I doubt that means users will be able to post using old.listnook though. But I don't know why they would put the setting in old.listnook if they weren't going to make the feature available to old.listnook posts. Maybe you'll get lucky. For now, just switch to new.listnook to make the gallery post. Users can still view it on old.listnook.

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almightywhacko Jul 15, 2020 +11

> For now, just switch to new.listnook to make the gallery post. Users can still view it on old.listnook. Images set up in the new multi-image gallery format don't appear to work in old listnook. At least, I can't see the ones at the top of this page in old listnook, but I can when I view the post in new listnook. Also clicking the thread title in old listnook brings me to a listnook "not found" error page.

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reddit_oar Jul 15, 2020 +210

Is this shift away from hosting content on Imgur so Listnook can have more control over content that gets posted? https://www.listnookinc.com/policies/user-agreement 4. Your Content > You retain any ownership rights you have in Your Content, but you grant Listnook the following license to use that Content: > **When Your Content is created with or submitted to the Services, you grant us a worldwide, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, non-exclusive, transferable, and sublicensable license** to use, copy, modify, adapt, prepare derivative works from, distribute, perform, and display Your Content and any name, username, voice, or likeness provided in connection with Your Content in all media formats and channels now known or later developed. Any artist or photographer that uploads pictures using this system is handing over their right to copyright to Listnook. That seems shady af.

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amalgam_reynolds Jul 15, 2020 +34

I don't feel like anyone has really hit the nail on the head, yet. >Is this shift away from hosting content on Imgur so Listnook can have more control over content that gets posted? The answer is unequivocally "yes." While Imgur was original created *for* Listnook, they are 100% separate entities. Imgur controls images hosted on Imgur, even when they've been hotlinked through a Listnook post. That's bad for Listnook, and Listnook wants to change that. However, the language used is fairly common. Imgur and Instagram and Twitter all have similar verbiage. And it is broad wording; they're providing you with a free service, they expect some licensed rights to your uploaded material so they don't get sued. They are not stealing your copyright. But if you don't want to license your work to Listnook, don't upload or post it.

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TheGoldenHand Jul 15, 2020 +9

That’s standard licensing for image sites. That’s what allows them to copy and transform the images you upload and display them around the world.

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zvug Jul 15, 2020 +15

This is standard language, and if they didn't do this they'd get idiots trying to sue them left and right. I bet even with this they still get that to some degree. Just think about it logically for a second lol. Also, why would this NOT be the case?

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Pat_The_Hat Jul 15, 2020 +28

You don't hand over your right to copyright. You license it to them while retaining ownership of the copyright.

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reddit_oar Jul 15, 2020 +47

Right but it's a royalty-free license. This means that even if you retain the copyright, if it is uploaded listnook can sell posters using your image to make money that you cant claim. This damages the copyright holder.

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deviantbono Jul 15, 2020 +28

Standard boilerplate language. Every site you've every used has it. Otherwise, the "I hereby declare that Facebook cannot store my information" might actually have legal weight. By granting a license upon uploading something, you're just saying that Listnook can store and display it (which is what you want).

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BernieMeinhoffGang Jul 15, 2020 +30

> perpetual, irrevocable Instagram and youtube at the least says their rights terminate with the user deleting the content or account not sure how common that distinction is

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deviantbono Jul 15, 2020 +14

Uncommon afaik. Why would they risk a lawsuit because they forgot to delete one of your 10,000 images upon account deletion, or it got restored from a backup, or it didn't even get restored you just have a hunch they're storing it in a backup/archive somewhere, or another user cross-posted it and their cross-post functionality doesn't handle deletes well, or they used it in a promotional montage and now they might have to consider changing millions of dollars of promotional material because one tiny pixel was something you uploaded but later changed your mind.... etc....

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bringbackradarto4077 Aug 3, 2020 +32

So there seems to be a bit of an issue that I've found for android users. I can't enlarge the images when I click on them so I'm stuck looking at the top half of any picture. Sometimes I can't even see what OP posted because I can't see the whole picture. Meanwhile apple users are able to do it with ease. Is there a work around/fix for android users like me?

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FuppinBaxterd Aug 4, 2020 +8

Do you also have trouble swiping between them? Sometimes they don't 'flick' over for me and move to the next in a really sticky way. And I often can't move past the 2nd photo at all.

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2TieDyeFor Aug 3, 2020 +18

I'm not able to zoom in on photos posted in this method. Also I've noticed that some photos are not 'in frame'.. ill swipe and only see a portion of the image and I'm not able to see the rest. example- Caption: "Look at this dress" Image: head and shoulders of person. what am I doing wrong?

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1950sunlimited Aug 3, 2020 +10

You aren’t doing anything wrong. They put out an app that doesn’t work worth a s*** on mobile.

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I_AlreadyDiD Jul 15, 2020 +62

Not to downplay this because this is awesome, but can we please get folders for our saved post. I have so much saved on Listnook I would love to categorize it! ... ^please

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Hakul Jul 15, 2020 +27

Any plans to fix v.listnook defaulting to 240p quality and not re-buffering parts of the video you have watched if you change quality?

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12mo Jul 15, 2020 +14

Why was this downvoted? v.listnook is broken and keeps loading tiny not-even-SD videos instead of defaulting to something reasonable like 480p

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Nuplex Jul 15, 2020 +73

Programmer here (not for listnook). Its not a glitch, they are intentionally reseting it. Probably to improve adoption rates of new listnook. This means a sizeable percent of unique users are still using old listnook. Which they don't want. Supporting an entire other design of your website cost money. I have to use old.listnook on my phone now because since yesterday (presumably the update that included this gallery change) its forcing a browser version of the listnook mobile app on me and that thing is ridiculously slow on my phone browser. My problem with the redesign isnt even the design itself. I can get used to that. Its that it absolutely sucks on mobile. And the app isnt any better.

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +37

Use listnook is fun. Old listnook layout in an app, so it won't redirect to new listnook ever (unless a link post specifically links to new listnook, which will open it in the in-app browser.)

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w1red Jul 15, 2020 +6

I’d absolutely believe that this is what happens but just anecdotally, it never went back to new.listnook for me..

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bdcp Jul 15, 2020 +38

Use the Old Listnook Redirect chrome extension and you will never have to to that again.

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BruhSoundEffect1 Jul 22, 2020 +18

What is the ideal image dimensions? They keep getting cut off on mobile when I try it and there's no way to open the full size image.

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Ch3rryunikitty Aug 3, 2020 +8

I'm having this issue in the official listnook app, too.

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AndThatIsWhyIDrink Jul 15, 2020 +145

[Me, a user in RES dark mode clicking on this.](https://media0.giphy.com/media/LRCxXWRljt4LYf6AK1/giphy.gif)

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ShiningConcepts Jul 15, 2020 +210

Sadly it doesn't seem like this has good support on old.listnook.com :(

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bathrobehero Jul 15, 2020 +26

Yeah, but listnook only cares about having more users.

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dzrtguy Jul 15, 2020 +13

That's why I pay extra for apps which use the API instead of injecting terrible ads. I can also filter users and subs without limits, and filter keywords, and modify the ui, override the fonts, etc.

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bathrobehero Jul 15, 2020 +7

Yeah, I have adblock and 4674 subs and 287 users blocked with RES I've gathered over many years. But there's only so much we can do. It's just my opinion and preference but I never liked browsing on mobile, and it feels like many mobile users are posting in a haste which means shorter, more shallow or overall less valuable posts and mostly comments. Sort of like twitter which I pretty much hate. And listnook is going all in on getting mobile users for a few years now.

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Maxymulator Aug 3, 2020 +9

I'm on the official android app and when i see one of these multi-image posts, i can only see the thumbnails of all images. There seems to be no way of opening the full image. Does anyone else have this problem?

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BennDepper Jul 15, 2020 +113

Great! Now I can put images of Uyghurs being placed in concentration camps, Tiananmen Square, and the hundreds of millions you accepted from the CCP all in one post! Seriously though, f*** Listnook Admins. You have become a propaganda arm to one of the evilest and most tyrannical regimes in the entire world. You aren't gonna end up like Volkswagen when this is all over either.

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viking007789 Jul 15, 2020 +230

NSFW is about to blow up with excitement. Hah

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JakeCameraAction Jul 15, 2020 +17

NSFW subs already had this with Imgur albums.

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digitalgangster12 Jul 15, 2020 +134

Good now do something about 6 mods controlling 92 out of the top 500 sublistnooks

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jayrady Jul 15, 2020 +10

What if 1 of my images is racist towards a minority group but 2 are racist towards a majority group? Will listnook keep it up?

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I_Am_Sofa_King_ Jul 15, 2020 +568

This is good for all the p*** subs

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +8

Has there been a successful transition from a site that allowed p*** at first and then banned it? I always think of how Tumblr went downhill after it. I can't imagine Listnook would be great after it.

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i-like-to-be-wooshed Jul 15, 2020 +148

Oh boi that gets me excited ☜(ﾟヮﾟ☜)

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lickedTators Jul 15, 2020 +7

Admins comment on every response but this. Admins confirmed asexual.

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j0akime Jul 15, 2020 +109

Why does this not work in old.listnook.com?

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eaglescout1984 Aug 4, 2020 +6

One thing I'm noticing on the official Listnook app is images are cropped/zoomed-in, and you can't just click on the image to open it fully like you could with a single image that was cropped in preview mode. Any plans to address this?

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lmN0tAR0b0t Jul 15, 2020 +71

an actually good announcement? am i dreaming? . edit: nvm new listnook only f****** admins

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[deleted] Jul 15, 2020 +15

Even in new Listnook it's not good. It's a gallery of images you can't view in a gallery view lol

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battles Jul 15, 2020 +78

Does it only work in this awful slide show 'new listnook' format?

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IAMA_Plumber-AMA Jul 15, 2020 +31

Apparently so. All we get are /r/admincrickets when people ask.

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luke_in_the_sky Jul 16, 2020 +8

They never made v.listnook usable and are creating new bullshit that are as shitty.

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SirMoeHimself Aug 3, 2020 +4

Can anyone tell me why the ability to search our gallery and folders on our phone when uploading content is no more? Instead when I choose to upload something the only option I get is "Recents" which is a pain because its literally all my files just packed in two columns. Sometimes I wanna upload something I took or downloaded sometime ago and, like Facebook I guess, I have to scroll through everything I own instead of going to a folder to select something. Is this something that will be fixed?

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[deleted] Aug 17, 2020 +10

Hey I have a suggestion for an update, can we add roaches/ rainbow roaches stickers for the chat?

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i-like-to-be-wooshed Jul 15, 2020 +103

About time, i was tired of doing everything via imgur This is a great addition!

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HoracioPeacockThe3rd Jul 15, 2020 +54

imgur has gotten so terrible over the years i can't wait to no longer need it at all. next step is allowing images in comments

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38384 Jul 15, 2020 +41

Nah images in comments would dumb down the platform, too graphic, and too amateur. It would be perfect for trolls and the immature.

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FancyForkDev Jul 15, 2020 +28

They don't have to be inline with the content. Being able to upload an image directly in a comment and have it show up as a link would be great, though. Especially on programming and other tech support communities where we are always asking each other to share screenshots. It would remove the 3rd party website requirement from that process.

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Nick-Tr Jul 15, 2020 +8

If only Listnook's image and video hosting wasn't completely God-awful though

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Kolya_Kotya Jul 15, 2020 +14

What's your opinion of the drone footage on the front page from China of the Uighur Muslims blindfolded, heads shaved, and shackled being sent to concentration camps? Just curious, do you condemn what the Chinese government is doing ?

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LawsonLunatic Jul 15, 2020 +22

Good because, “corporate needs you to find the difference between this picture and this picture.”

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PDXbot Jul 15, 2020 +14

Yep if its a v.listnook link don't even bother me. Or click if you want to be transported to 90's dialup

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TheUgly0rgan Jul 15, 2020 +6

I like to click them when I'm feeling nostalgic for AOL. When it finally loads I play ["You've got mail!"](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFBLiHpkcOk) and it's like I'm a kid again.

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PBLKGodofGrunts Jul 15, 2020 +24

Broken in old.listnook.com and opens to a bright ass white background page. Wowie good job.

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moonrunner99 Aug 3, 2020 +5

I don't like how it has been implemented on the mobile app. It cuts off the bottom of longer images, and doesn't allow you to view the original source image. Definitely needs work.

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TheEleventhTime Jul 15, 2020 +9

Oh cool now I am make posts with multiple images about how you should cut ties with China due to the fact that they are systematically conducting their own holocaust.

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Now you can make posts with multiple images.

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