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ThinkSoftware Apr 29, 2026 +657

The Oakland San Francisco Bay Airport of Anaheim

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ObjectiveDark40 Apr 29, 2026 +128

More like "Oakland San Francisco Bay Airport of Alameda"

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slowlyaware Apr 29, 2026 +86

Alameda? That place has nuclear wessels!

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bokatan778 Apr 29, 2026 +18

He did a little too much LDS.

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darsynia Apr 30, 2026 +10

Well, a double dumbass on you!

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Duling May 1, 2026 +5

Hello computer!

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ItsPumpkinninny Apr 29, 2026 +13

Dammit… beat me

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Nugur Apr 29, 2026 +65

The amount of people thinking the can do disenyland and LA in one day is why I hate the angels name

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Independent-Slip568 Apr 29, 2026 +22

I’ve met more than one tourist who thought they could “stop and see” LA and San Francisco in the same day. When corrected they sometimes follow that up with “how about SF and Yosemite in the same day?” 🤦

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act1v1s1nl0v3r Apr 29, 2026 +15

I mean, it depends on what your definition of "see" is 😂😂

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FastCar2467 Apr 30, 2026 +6

lol! My in laws are these people. They flew in from Europe to visit with us in California, and their plan was to land in LAX and drive to San Francisco for the night and then drive back to stay with us in Orange County, California.

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rosen380 Apr 29, 2026 +5

Even if you could travel the 400 miles from SF to LA in 2.5-3 hours, how much "seeing" would you actually get in in either place in a single day? I wouldn't even say that I "saw" **either** place if I just spent a single day in one or the other.

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PocketSpaghettios Apr 30, 2026 +5

I just got back from spending a day in San Francisco. I am very confident that I missed a lot

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roguesiegetank Apr 29, 2026 +42

Don't worry, I get down voted or yelled at (in person) every time I try to correct people that: 1. Disneyland is not in LA, but Anaheim, 2. LAX is not the closest airport to Disneyland, 3. The Greater LA Metro area is made up of almost 200 independent cities. And they are trying to argue with someone born, raised, and still lives in SoCal, so it's been fun.

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act1v1s1nl0v3r Apr 29, 2026 +17

It was fun explaining to the Japanese exchange students at my NorCal university that no, they're not going to have a quick weekend trip to Disneyland by taking the train or at all.

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Jabjab345 Apr 29, 2026 +19

It's about the distance from Tokyo to Osaka, which Japanese people could realistically make a day trip with the shinkansen. I'm sure they'd be in for some culture shock when they see the state of our infrastructure.

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JoeSavinaBotero Apr 30, 2026 +5

It's completely embarrassing. We should have the world's fastest bullet train network. We're the richest country in the world. We should have nice things.

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BlueRaider731 Apr 29, 2026 +3

Can you expand on that? I’m not from cal

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roguesiegetank Apr 29, 2026 +12

San Francisco Bay Area is about 400 miles or 600 km north of Disneyland. Good luck traveling that and having time leftover to enjoy SoCal before traveling back north in 24 hours.

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Revoldt Apr 29, 2026 +7

In about 30 years and $30bn later, there may be a high speed rail! 😅

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optimaloutcome Apr 29, 2026 +7

$30bn? Gonna need to pump those numbers up. Estimates are pushing $230bn now (assuming it ever gets completed)

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JewishTomCruise Apr 30, 2026 +2

Why do you not simply get into your jet and fly to SNA?

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jmlinden7 Apr 29, 2026 +9

Not only is LAX not the closest airport to Disneyland, it's not even in the top 3.

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chicklette Apr 30, 2026 +3

Are...are you counting Fullerton?

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jmlinden7 Apr 30, 2026 +4

Ontario is a faster drive to Disneyland than LAX is, assuming average amounts of traffic. LGB and SNA (obviously) are the top 2. The traffic to LAX is so bad that sometimes it's faster to drive to San Diego, although on average LAX is a few minutes faster.

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chicklette Apr 30, 2026 +2

Honestly you couldn't pay me to go in n out of Ontario. The traffic is wild. LGB is where it's at imo. :)

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jmlinden7 Apr 30, 2026 +2

Yeah the traffic to Ontario is not good, but the traffic to LAX is so bad that Ontario is still faster

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3Gilligans Apr 30, 2026 +1

I don't expect someone from LA to know every city within the SF Bay Area so I don't know why you'd expect me to know every city in SoCA. I tell you I'm from San Francisco and (if you live in Anaheim) you tell me you're from LA. No one gets offended and no arguing needed

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Possible_Top4855 Apr 30, 2026 +2

Nah, they’d say they’re from OC.

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docbauies Apr 29, 2026 +12

You can easily make that drive in 18 hours! I don’t know what the big deal is. You can’t even do just the Westside of LA in one day.

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dnyank1 Apr 29, 2026 +9

What am I missing? The drive from LA to Disneyland is presently 27 minutes according to Google Maps

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docbauies Apr 29, 2026 +14

It was a joke about traffic in LA. I have driven in LA when it takes 2 hours to get to Anaheim from Burbank/DTLA

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ThinkSoftware Apr 29, 2026 +25

They call it the 405 because you go four or five miles an hour

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Nugur Apr 29, 2026 +5

It’s not a joke…. It’s real

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Nugur Apr 29, 2026 +7

If you’re a tourist in SoCal. It’s best to stay in one county a day. Or else traffic would eat a lot of your time. Even eating at a good restaurant can cost you 1hr of your life waiting for a table. Time is money, don’t spend it in traffic

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happy-cig Apr 29, 2026 +5

People think they can do the entire United States in a week lol.

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piddydb Apr 29, 2026 +2

Makes me wonder if you can even step foot in all 50 states in a week. Probably but you wouldn’t be seeing much.

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Agueybana Apr 29, 2026 +1

If I stick my foot out while doing a rolling stop, does it count?

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jeidai Apr 30, 2026 +1

Well this guy didn't get out of the car and it was a week's vacation (Friday night to two Sundays later)... [https://web.archive.org/web/20070628191729/http://www.barrystiefel.com/50\_states\_in\_a\_weeks\_vacation/50\_states\_in\_a\_weeks\_vacation.htm](https://web.archive.org/web/20070628191729/http://www.barrystiefel.com/50_states_in_a_weeks_vacation/50_states_in_a_weeks_vacation.htm)

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toorigged2fail May 1, 2026 +1

..at Alameda/San Leandro (Bay Farm Island)

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Riptide360 Apr 29, 2026 +127

So we get Oakland San Francisco Bay Airport followed by San Jose San Francisco Bay Airport and then San Mateo County San Francisco Bay Airport.

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orrocos Apr 29, 2026 +85

I’m flying out of Denver San Francisco International Airport next week.

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CrocodylusRex Apr 30, 2026 +6

Change flights in Dallas, you're a San Franciscan

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NeatWhiskeyPlease Apr 29, 2026 +15

No no it’s the Jose Francisco San San Airport International.

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neonam11 Apr 29, 2026 +5

A lot of people are going to at the wrong departure airport and miss their flights, especially with bay area traffic, LOL.

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All_Hail_Hynotoad Apr 29, 2026 +219

Stupidest decision ever, and OAK is my local airport. It will do nothing but confuse people.

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deededee13 Apr 29, 2026 +18

Its a desperate move for sure but not really confusing or all that different than other airports worldwide that are much further than OAK is from SF downtown. Its only about 10+ min more on public transit to get to SF downtown for tourists so they likely wont care. Its more reflective of just how much oakland has declined.

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All_Hail_Hynotoad Apr 29, 2026 +12

People already get confused about the airports here. Between San Jose, SFO, and OAK, there are countless stories of people ending up at the wrong airport because of the close proximity. It will only get worse.

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ShoulderGoesPop Apr 29, 2026 +14

That's just how airports are in big metropolitan areas. I don't know why people think it's such a big deal. I was in Chicago a few weeks ago and they have 2 airports that are literally the same distance as Oakland and SFO. And they are both Chicago _ international airport. It's not that hard to navigate

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chetlin Apr 30, 2026 +4

And then there is Chicago Rockford International Airport

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Veggies-are-okay Apr 30, 2026 -2

This would be valid if it was as the crow flies. But to get from one to the other, you have the choke point of the bay bridge or the dunbarton bridge (pick your poison) that can make going even 11 miles take over an hour. You can take bart, but that’s over an hour from OAK to SFO. My dumb ass has found myself in the wrong airport once and it took a maniac of an uber driver who got an insane tip to get to my flight on time, and that was with me budgeting extra “just in case” time. The other difference is that all Chicago airports are in the city limits of Chicago. When people think “San Francisco,” they think of the little mitten that has the hippies and the cute Victorians, not Oakland, the gritty port city on the opposite side of the bay. It’s like calling a shop “Logan Square market” and then putting it in the southwestern tip of Michigan.

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ShoulderGoesPop Apr 30, 2026 +2

All your points would be valid except SFO is also not in the city limits of SF. And when I wrote that comment in the middle of the day it would take you the same amount of time to drive to SF from both airports. And Bart would take you the same amount of time from both airports to get to downtown SF.

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Veggies-are-okay Apr 30, 2026

I and the rest of us residents see the whole peninsula as "San Francisco and surrounding suburbs," but yes it's technically in San Bruno if you want to be pedantic. Also it's not the same amount of time; you risk having to take transfers on bart (which really are not that obvious to someone not savvy with public transportation i.e. most people visiting SF that would get them confused). Also it's more expensive to get to SF from Oakland as opposed to SFO. Taking uber? Well there's an additional fee to take you over the bay bridge. Let's not mention how congested the bay bridge can be from the influx of people going to/from for just about every reason in the world. When you're going to SF from the east bay, you HAVE to hit the standstill traffic. At least from SFO you can bounce over to the 280 to get to the more residential neighborhood. It sounds to me like you just mapped "SFO to SF" and "OAK to SF" without really thinking about the glaringly obvious geographical differences between the big ass Bay in the middle of the Bay Area and flat and gridded layout of Chicago.

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ShoulderGoesPop Apr 30, 2026 +1

And Oakland is part of the San Francisco bay area And it's less expensive to get to SF from Oakland taking Bart. And yes the maps say it takes less time. Which is true depending on traffic or transfers

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Veggies-are-okay Apr 30, 2026 -1

13.45 from OAK to Embarcadero (closest you can get) vs. 11.80 from SFO to Embarcadero (the farthest you can go). It’s okay to be wrong even when you’re trying to be a pedantic ass 🤷‍♂️

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ShoulderGoesPop Apr 30, 2026 +2

Huh didn't realize they added that much for the Oakland airport. I thought it was just an SFO surcharge. I ever said there was anything bad with be wrong. It happens. Not sure why you're calling me an ass but I guess that's alright.

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Moneyshot_ITF May 1, 2026 +1

10+ minutes?? You are high AF if you think Bart is getting you from oak to SF in 10 mins

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Easy_Money_ Apr 29, 2026 +47

Counterpoint: it won’t make a huge difference at all. Only Southwest, Hawaiian, and Volaris seriously fly out of OAK anyway. No harm in being slightly clearer about its proximity to the major regional destination. Careless people went to the wrong airport even when the names didn’t overlap. And no one has an issue with “Washington Dulles International Airport” or “Baltimore Washington International Airport,” just “Oakland San Francisco Bay International Airport” seems to be a problem

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baltinerdist Apr 29, 2026 +27

I just flew out of Thurgood Marshall Baltimore Washington International Airport three hours ago. It’s my home airport. Which happens to be 30 minutes in decent traffic from Washington and sits outside Baltimore in Lithincum Heights, MD which isn’t even in Baltimore County, it’s in Anne Arundel. But yeah, it’s Baltimore Washington!

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Pork_Chompk Apr 29, 2026 +8

I've always wondered why the code for Baltimore is BWI... just not enough to actually look it up.

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lewphone Apr 29, 2026 -5

Umm...kind of obvious What did you think the B stood for?

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Pork_Chompk Apr 29, 2026 +13

Baltimore... It's the W that I wasn't sure of.

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Fallouttgrrl Apr 29, 2026 +6

When I search for a flight out of SF I have to filter out of sjc and oak You *are* going to get folks who mess up because of this - I once picked a last-minute flight from sjc instead of sfo because I didn't pay attention and thought I *had* filtered

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Easy_Money_ Apr 29, 2026 +14

Pretty much proving my point that people make this mistake anyway, no?

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All_Hail_Hynotoad Apr 29, 2026 +15

Yes, and they will be making it even more often now.

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Veggies-are-okay Apr 30, 2026 +2

I feel like this is people not from the Bay Area gaslighting people from the Bay Area. There’s a reason why we’re up in arms and it’s because we’ve all had the experience of being in the wrong airport and just having to give up. There’s NO WAY you’re making it to the correct airport over any of the bridges, even if you gave yourself the leeway of an international flight 😂

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gamers542 Apr 29, 2026 -10

Washington Dulles and Bal-WSH are separate airports miles away from each other. This is just overreach by SF and is another item being taken from Oakland. There is no reason for SF to be put on the Oakland Airport. They are separate cities. It serves no purpose. You also don't see them trying to do it to SJ's airport.

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Easy_Money_ Apr 29, 2026 +12

Yes, I know. I live in Oakland and previously lived between Baltimore and Washington. The Port of Oakland asked for this, while SF was strongly opposed to it. It’s not being taken from anybody. It’s Oakland trying to slightly bump up load factors by acquiring more SF-bound traffic. Baltimore is a perfect analogy. The airport is in Glen Burnie, right next to Baltimore and 35+ minutes from Washington. But calling itself Baltimore Washington Airport probably attracts slightly more traffic that just “Baltimore Airport” would. Like SF vs. Oakland, a lot more people are flying to Washington than Baltimore.

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baltinerdist Apr 29, 2026 +3

The airport is in Lithincum, it’s Anne Arundel.

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unfortunatebastard Apr 29, 2026 +2

Not to mention SFO is not in San Francisco. Hell, the god damn 49’s are in Santa Clara. Where’s the protest to them?

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santacruzdude Apr 29, 2026 +8

The comparison you made between SF/Oakland and Dulles/Baltimore is a good one: there are parts of DC where Baltimore is the more convenient airport than Dulles—it’s completely fine to put Washington in the Baltimore airport name because it absolutely serves the DC region. Same with Oakland serving the SF Bay Area. There are even parts of SF that are faster to get to the Oakland airport than SFO.

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bangonthedrums Apr 29, 2026 +3

You do see it in the UK with London’s six airports. Four of which are 30mi from central London or more (one is 40mi (64km)!), and are very far away from each other (stansted to gatwick is like 70mi) But, all of them have decent transit links to the city proper and all of them can be used to get to “London”. I would argue that OAK is not really any different than that. Half an hour on transit from the airport to downtown SF is totally reasonable, and is the same time as transit from SFO

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SiliconDiver Apr 29, 2026 +3

This isn’t overreach by SF, quite the opposite. This is being driven by Oakland port authority and SFO is suing trying to block it based on trademark and proximity and naming similarities to the existing SFO. The super tldr: Oakland airport is failing compared to other small airports and instead of making impactful changes they are hoping a name change and publicity will change things.

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Easy_Money_ Apr 29, 2026 +5

It’s not entirely OAK’s fault: they became a Southwest hub, and Southwest undercut and chased away any competition. Now that Southwest is cutting flights to shift planes to defend against Alaska at SAN, OAK is left with nothing

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Previous-Height4237 Apr 29, 2026

Southwest failing is more recent. The OAK rename was attempted a bit further back. Reallty is OAk has the reputation of where once you get the rental car, you do not stop at the first red light because you'll get mugged inside the car. Additionally, you absolutely do not stop at the fast food joints nearby because the car is nearly guaranteed to be smashed in to steal your luggage within minutes of you going inside.

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ree_hi_hi_hi_hi Apr 29, 2026 +2

Tricking people into flying into that shithole is terrible

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Veggies-are-okay Apr 30, 2026 +5

I resent this. Flying into/out of Oakland means I get a drive home from a friend instead of a stupid $80 uber that takes forever to book from SFO. -your local Oakland resident

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ree_hi_hi_hi_hi Apr 30, 2026 +2

To be fair I don’t think anyone is saying people shouldn’t be allowed to fly into Oakland if they want. It’s the people that are going to think they are going to San Francisco who are dumb/inexperienced/both going to Oakland on accident that is the problem.

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Veggies-are-okay Apr 30, 2026 +2

Oh I completely agree. Some fuckin dummy in a thread above is trying to say SFO is just as inconvenient to visit SF as OAK… 😂

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DinkyTabinky Apr 29, 2026 -6

I'm from the Bay Area but I'd be so mad if I somehow got tricked into going to Oakland

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DemSumBigAssRidges Apr 29, 2026 +17

They should just use "San Fran" though to piss everyone off.

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RadiantEnvironment90 Apr 29, 2026 +4

That’s so mean lmao.

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Awktung Apr 30, 2026 +2

'Frisco' would be worse. Frisco, Cali if you're not into the whole brevity thing.

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ru_benz Apr 30, 2026 +1

That depends on who you ask. I feel like Bay Area rap from the late ‘90s/early 2000s made “Frisco” more acceptable among millennials. I graduated high school from an East Bay suburb in the early 2000s, and my classmates sometimes said “Frisco” but never said “San Fran.”

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Clean-Shift-291 Apr 29, 2026 +56

Dallas-Fort Worth airport is in neither of these cities…

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ButterRollercoaster Apr 29, 2026 +50

SFO’s not actually in San Francisco either.

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gumol Apr 29, 2026 +25

but is is owned and operated by the city of San Francisco

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santacruzdude Apr 29, 2026 +21

Technically, SFO is in an exclave of San Francisco, even though it’s surrounded by San Mateo County.

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Things-ILike Apr 29, 2026 -11

No, it’s in San Mateo. Wtf you smoking “exclave of SF” lmao

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RadiantEnvironment90 Apr 29, 2026 +15

It’s physically in San Mateo county but the land is owned and operated by San Francisco.

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GotMoFans Apr 29, 2026 +3

Neither is (Thurgood Marshall) Baltimore-Washington International…

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SiliconDiver Apr 29, 2026 +6

I mean that’s a pretty common one to have a region’s major airport be 15+ miles into the suburbs of a given city. It’s frankly bad planning to plop an airport in the city center. However there are a few criteria that make the Oakland case especially strange. - the named airport of the major city is usually the largest one in the area. - in cities with two large airports officially named after the city they actually are referred to and have a call sign of something by else (Ohare/midway, Heathrow/gatwick, harneda/narita). I’m guessing that’s what happens here with Oakland, but it can’t fully because SFO isn’t changing. - in cases where the airport is far outside of the city, the city usually still owns the land/airport to some degree as an enclave (eg: Dfw).

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SEA_tide Apr 29, 2026 +3

All of those examples use the bigger city's name in their branding, but are also known by something else, often their city name, that is used more commonly. London has Heathrow, Gatwick, Luton, Stansted, City, and Southend, among others. Chicago has O'Hare, Midway, and Rockford (Meigs closed). Seattle has SeaTac (Seattle), Boeing, and Paine. On radio, OAK is still "Oakland Tower." The FAA actually has more ATC operations in Oakland compared to San Francisco.

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IphoneMiniUser Apr 29, 2026 +2

Paine was renamed, it’s now Seattle Paine Field. https://flypainefield.com/

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SEA_tide Apr 29, 2026 +2

I know this all too well; it's essentially the same situation as Oakland. The tower is still addressed as Paine Tower though.

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SiliconDiver Apr 29, 2026 +2

Yeah. My point is that for London, you don’t have “London airport” and then “London Gatwick” they all are using alternative names to some degree. Same with the other cities listed. In the case of Oakland it’ll be something like “San Francisco (SFO) and Oakland at sat Francisco bay (oak)” If SFO became San Francisco Mateo then it would be more in line with how everyone else is doing it, but they aren’t. Again, this difference is largely due to a city trying to brand their airport after another city rather than their own, which is a rare/strange thing to do. Its quite dumb when their rationale is that they had ridership drop because people don’t know where Oakland is, yet the comparable airports that their traffic dropped relative to are also small airports not named after local big cities (Long Beach, San Jose, burbank, Ontario etc)

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SEA_tide Apr 29, 2026 +5

Oakland wants more passengers. Adding the big city name is a relatively c**** trial fix, even when it just looks like a money grab. Ontario had Los Angeles in its name for a few years, especially when it had the same owner as LAX. Burbank (actually Bob Hope Airport or Burbank /Glendale/Pasadena) is at least partially in Los Angeles and is actually more convenient to LA in many cases, but didn't use the Los Angeles name. The Port of Long Beach is listed as Los Angeles by Carnival (the only cruise line there). To it's credit, the ports of Long Beach and Los Angeles (San Pedro) are essentially one giant port. Toronto might be the exception to your rule in that the main airport is only barely in the city by a tiny bit, but locals call it Pearson (the airport train is literally called the Union Pearson Express) instead of Toronto while the other airport in the city is known as Billy Bishop or "the Island."

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Oregon-Pilot Apr 30, 2026 +1

I was flying into HNL one time and there was a military aircraft landing behind us I think. He checked in with the clunkiest radio call I’ve ever heard, using the full name of the airport “Daniel K. Inouye Airport Tower…” but he butchered the pronunciation of Inouye. It was difficult to to listen to lol

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SEA_tide Apr 30, 2026 +1

I haven't checked my charts, but I'm assuming that they go by Honolulu Tower. 😄 It seems that generally ATC communications have been simplified and a lot of the quirks of different airports and airlines have been eliminated. It was a sad day when American Airlines decided that it would not keep the Cactus call sign in favor of the more generic American. I do find it interesting that KMSP is Minneapolis Tower but KIND is Indy Tower.

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Moneyshot_ITF May 1, 2026 +2

Chatgpt, go home

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SiliconDiver May 1, 2026 +1

? You really think my lack of capitalization, spelling mistakes, and run on sentences are ChatGPT? Thanks?

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Wigglepus Apr 29, 2026 +1

The biggest city in the area is San Jose. Both by population and size.

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Bigred2989- Apr 29, 2026 +2

Melbourne-Orlando International Airport in Florida used to be called Orlando-Melbourne and confused the hell out of people who found themselves 80 miles and over an hour away from Disney world.

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eng-enuity Apr 30, 2026 +2

The Cincinnati Airport isn't even in the state of Ohio. Technically, it's the Cincinnati / Northern Kentucky International Airport which does hint at where it's located. Also it's code (CVG) originates from the city of Covington, Kentucky.

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ml20s Apr 29, 2026 +1

DCA is not in DC either (it's in Virginia)

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vgaph Apr 29, 2026 +6

Well, that was a good use of everyone’s time.

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Warlord68 Apr 29, 2026 +7

I’m flying to the San Francisco! Which one?

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Sponchman Apr 29, 2026 +15

Their argument for the name change is that both airports take similar times to get to the City. If taking BART then the Oakland airport is actually faster to get downtown. Still a dumb name change.

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RustySheriffsBadge1 Apr 30, 2026 +3

True but I would argue a lot of people fly into SFO to then head south to San Jose, Monterey, Santa Cruz. Ext… yes SJC exists but there are more direct options to SFO. Just look at how many people flew into SFO for the Super Bowl.

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Sponchman Apr 30, 2026 +1

I understand that, people use these airports from all over. And I agree that renaming the Airport is dumb, I believe it sells Oakland as a city short. It's more branding for people coming into SF from other places, as majority of tourists coming to the Bay Area are going to SF.

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nutmac Apr 29, 2026 +7

The name change only projects insecurity and reinforce that one should double check the name of the airport when booking a flight to San Francisco. To be fair, Oakland isn’t a bad airport to fly into, if you are saving some money anyway. But I would avoid if you are planning on renting a car (high crime at gas stations near the airport) or taking a taxi or ride share to San Francisco (potentially very high traffic).

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bmessina Apr 29, 2026 +9

Guess what I'm never gonna call it.

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angrysquirrel777 Apr 29, 2026 +9

This is like Gatwick having the name London in it when it's as to the ocean as it is London.

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bmwkid Apr 29, 2026 +3

So Stansted

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vgaph Apr 29, 2026 +1

This is fact. Fly from rural Bavaria to Stansted, and realize that time and cost-wise I’m only about half-way to London.

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SiliconDiver Apr 29, 2026 +4

It’s worse than that. The situation you describe is actually common. This would be like Gatwick calling themselves “London Gatwick” if Heathrow were actually named “London airport” instead of Heathrow.

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IAmWheelock Apr 29, 2026 +1

London Southend is even more egregious.

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leondrias Apr 30, 2026 +1

Or London Luton, which is especially not-really-in-Greater-London due to basically being halfway to Milton Keynes.

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SiliconDiver Apr 29, 2026 +7

Nearly this entire comment thread is missing the point of the lawsuit and clearly didn’t read beyond the headline. The contention is the trademark name of “San Francisco airport” and Oakland airport’s proposed name and its similarity to the name of the existing airport. It has nothing to do with proximity to the city, ownership etc. it’s entirely “you can’t make X part of your airport name because airport X already exists and is trademarked”

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Easy_Money_ Apr 29, 2026 +3

And they reached a settlement that allows Oakland to keep “San Francisco Bay” in the name, so clearly they _can_ do that

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metalspork Apr 29, 2026 +2

Inevitably, many passengers unfamiliar with the area will end up going to the wrong airport and missing their flight.

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funtimes-forall Apr 29, 2026 +2

For a long time it was way cheaper to fly into Oakland but the ride into SF was so much faster from SFO.

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betterbub Apr 29, 2026 +8

Significant chunks of SF live closer to the Oakland airport anyway

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bearsnchairs Apr 29, 2026 +14

The only part of SF that is closer is Treasure Island.

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BidWestern1056 Apr 29, 2026 +20

in bart time\*

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bearsnchairs Apr 29, 2026 +4

I don’t think that is even true. SFO has a station in the airport and Oakland requires a transfer. The time is about equal from Embarcadero with a few to twenty minutes faster to SFO.

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BidWestern1056 Apr 29, 2026 +1

ya a timed transfer so the transfer time is little. but ya basically equal

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Jabjab345 Apr 29, 2026 +3

The Reno Tahoe airport is a funny one to me too. You aren't Tahoe Reno, stop trying to claim it, it's an hour drive.

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Far_Radish7752 Apr 29, 2026 +5

Given that Oakland’s airport and San Francisco’s airport are only 30 miles apart and more or less serve the same clientele, I don’t get why San Francisco had such an issue with Oakland using “San Francisco Bay” in their name.

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postmodest Apr 29, 2026 +12

Cincinnati's airport is in Covington Kentucky, yet no one calls it that.

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SEA_tide Apr 29, 2026

The FAA has alternated between calling CVG's airspace Cincinnati and Covington. Locals call the airport CVG, Cincinnati's actual airport is referred to as Lunken. Cincinnati West Airport is referred to as Harrison.

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postmodest Apr 29, 2026 +3

Nobody in the history of ever has called Lunken Field "Cincinnati's airport" except people with a financial stake in it.

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SEA_tide Apr 29, 2026

It's the only commercial airport in Cincinnati proper. The city has long tried to make it more well known. Meanwhile the Indiana side is trying to popularize "the the tri-state area" because so many people, including pretty much every tourist, forgets that part of the metro area is in Indiana.

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Gmbravos31 Apr 29, 2026 -1

Newark is most definitely New Jerseys airport. It’s just used be some New Yorkers because LaGuardia and JFK are nightmares to get through

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thatisnotmyknob Apr 29, 2026 +3

And is a much easier trip on public transportation.

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chetlin Apr 30, 2026 +2

I just did this yesterday. Long Island City to Newark. Surprisingly smooth, about as much as going to the other 2 airports which are both in Queens (I started my trip from Queens)

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Gmbravos31 Apr 29, 2026 -3

Connecticut and northern New Jersey is considered New York metropolitan area too. Doesn’t mean it’s New York. Do you also consider teterboro to be a New York airport?

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yesitismenobody Apr 29, 2026 +2

That's exactly it, it still means it's New York. As long as it's close and you can get to central NYC fast which you can do from EWR as fast as from JFK I don't see a problem with it. It's no difference for people going to NYC. I never think of EWR as a New Jersey airport (actually I don't think of NJ at all), it's just one of NYC 3 main airports.

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Gmbravos31 Apr 29, 2026 -1

I mean if that’s how you want to think about it it’s fine. But JFK and LaGuardia are owned by New York and operated by the port authority. Newark is owned by New Jersey and also operated by the port authority. Drawing state lines by how close they are the manhattan is a ridiculous argument. Your probably spend all summer down the Jersey shore while telling yourself you never think of New Jersey.

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Gmbravos31 Apr 29, 2026 +2

Born and raised in New Jersey. By your logic anything operated by port authority is in New Jersey just the same as New York. I never once have heard jfk is a New Jersey airport. We avoid NY like the plague when we fly. If you want to use Newark that’s fine by us. But it certainly is not New York’s airport https://www.travelpulse.com/news/airlines-airports/newark-airport-is-not-considered-a-nyc-airport-anymore There ya go.

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ButterRollercoaster Apr 29, 2026 +2

The Port Authority of what? **New York** and New Jersey.

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yesitismenobody Apr 29, 2026 -3

Who gives a shit who owns and operates an airport. If you just want to take arbitrary borders instead of objective things such as time to travel fine. You probably also think Jersey City isn't NYC.

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Gmbravos31 Apr 29, 2026

This might be the stupidest thing I’ve ever read

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MysteriousCap4910 Apr 29, 2026 +15

Because most people want to fly into SFO, changing Oakland to a similar name will just confuse people

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bangonthedrums Apr 29, 2026 -5

But why though? Does it really matter? No one is really choosing their airport when dealing with connections, and as a destination, OAK is the same distance from downtown SF as SFO is, by transit (30 mins from either)

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MysteriousCap4910 Apr 29, 2026 +7

Because it is far more likely they are going to the peninsula and SFO is just a better airport. It is the cities airport for a reason.

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skmace14 Apr 29, 2026 +6

Hell no. When I used to live in the Bay I would choose to fly out of Oakland any chance I got over SFO. So much less BS to deal with and a much more relaxed experience. Obviously this is personal experience, but I would argue that SFO is not a better airport.

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ru_benz Apr 30, 2026 +3

When given the option, I’d much rather fly out of OAK or SJC rather than SFO. I primarily only fly out of SFO for international flights.

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aaronhayes26 Apr 29, 2026 +6

SFO get business from people who want to fly to San Francisco googling “San Francisco Airport”. If Oakland is allowed to better articulate its location, they will naturally gain some of SFO’s market share from this crowd.

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SiliconDiver Apr 29, 2026 -1

And 99% of travel engines search by city and proximity. So many other smaller regional airports aren’t having this issue.

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SEA_tide Apr 29, 2026 +2

Competition. SFO doesn't want to lose passengers to other airports. In reality, the two can be used pretty much interchangeably by tourists depending on the flights being offered.

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SiliconDiver Apr 29, 2026 +2

“San Francisco” didn’t have an issue with the proximity etc. The issue isn’t that airports can name themselves after local cities even if not in them, that happens all the time. This would not be an issue. The issue is that “San Francisco airport” already exists and is trademarked and using that name would infringe on that existing name/trademark rather than that the name is associated with the city itself. If the existing airport weren’t already named “San Francisco airport” this wouldn’t be an issue. And that’s the argument. This would be more similar to an airport in Evanston trying to rename themselves to “Chicago hair airport”

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_DarthShitto_ Apr 29, 2026 +1

One step closer to living Bladerunner IRL. Los Angeles Municipal Waste Processing, San Diego District

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optimaloutcome Apr 29, 2026 +1

As long as no one flies in to either the Oakland San Francisco Bay Airport OR San Francisco International Airport to see the San Francisco 49ers play it'll be fine.

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Adorable-Flight-496 Apr 30, 2026 +1

Sanford/ Orlando Airport thanks you

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Monster_Dumps_2026 Apr 30, 2026 +1

This is why i appreciate the NYC airports. None of them actually use NYC. You need to know where youre going in the city to decide what is best. I get distance wise why this decision was made. But in practical use its a very bad idea. Just take away the city designation and it forces people to do an extra google

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111anza May 1, 2026 +1

Why not just bay area airport.

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ajtreee 5 days ago +1

It’s quite the drive from there to just over the bridge. Like a whole different town.

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joeDUBstep Apr 29, 2026 +1

Reminds me of how the World Cup games in Santa Clara are being advertised as being in the "San Francisco Bay Area." Like yeah, technically the South bay is in the San Francisco Bay Area, but I foresee a lot of people getting confused about that.

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Dalemunroe Apr 29, 2026

Makes sense. Oakland is just as close to most parts of SF as SFO, but a lot of people don’t realize that when searching flights. It’s actually a nicer airport to fly in and out of in general since it’s smaller and less crowded and parking and pickups are MUCH closer to the terminals. SFO was just scared that they’d lose passengers and money if more people knew that there are other SF Bay Area airports, and tried claiming a trademark on “San Francisco” as a form of regulatory capture to prevent competition.

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