Just looked her up; apparently one of her motivations for taking up boxing was to protect her mom from domestic abuse. What a cool lady.
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Simply_Weak_GlucoseMar 27, 2026
+116
Damn thats so honorable. Glad they found community in it.
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Friendly-Advice-2968Mar 28, 2026
+33
r/orphancrushingmachine
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finalremixMar 28, 2026
+4
What? Was she put into a domestic abuse situation *to make her* get into boxing?
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SharobobMar 28, 2026
+2
The whole point of orphan crushing machine stuff is that the story in a vacuum is nice but celebrating it without caring about changing the system that made it necessary is gross
Kinda like a little kid running a lemonade stand to raise money to pay for his classmates' school lunch debt. The biggest problem is that school lunch debt exists at all and it's a systematic problem we should solve
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HumanByProxyMar 27, 2026
+2035
We have really entered the P**** Inspection Point of history.
2035
SnapingboltsMar 27, 2026
+686
Can't see anyway this could go wrong. Not like there was a major doctor molestation scandal in the last decade or anything /s
686
KaiisimMar 27, 2026
+314
I keep saying this shit. Protecting girls by subjecting them to sex tests.
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OrangeJr36Mar 27, 2026
+110
Thus scarring them out of sports, thereby destroying women's sports.
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SmaugTheGreat110Mar 28, 2026
+23
Probably the point. F*** thos wave of hate and f*** Regan, Nixon, and trump for making everyone think it was alright.
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hananobiraMar 27, 2026
+23
And making them pay $300 for blood tests that the boys don’t have to pay. Unless they’re making the boys pay half in the interests of fairness…?
Including the travel costs to get the tests done, which are probably pretty considerable if you live in, say, a rural area in Nigeria.
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S420JMar 27, 2026
+8
F****** for real
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DondagoraMar 28, 2026
+2
It’s a gene test (saliva/blood) according to a quick google search, so not like they’re pulling down pants and checking genitals. So at least it seems as unlikely to occur during the sex screening as it is during a drug screening.
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irespondwithmyfaceMar 27, 2026
+166
Seems like a majority of this site is cheering for this too.
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TimothyMimeslayerMar 27, 2026
+197
The only thing conservatives and center right dems hate more than women is Trans people.
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ChandelurieMar 27, 2026
+124
Hating trans people is so convenient for them. They can be as misogynistic as they want and still claim to want to protect women.
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MansidheMar 27, 2026
+34
That was me a year ago. Then my sister's oldest came out to me as trans, and I had to reconcile my (at the time) view of Transfolk as weird sickos mutilating themselves far beyond the most outlandish tats or body modification enthusiasts with this sweet kid (late 20s, so not a KID kid, but whatever) who was still apologizing for deleting my ps2 savegame however many years ago ps2 was.
This wonderful person who confided this terrifying truth to the gun loving, hard-drinking (retired), bearded biker uncle who I'm sure had made disparaging remarks about Trans folks to or around Her.
This scared but determined person, defiantly demanding to be seen and valued as who She was, not as the ill-fitting mold She'd been living in.
I got to know Her more in the following months than in the decades before. She was an amazing lady, and opened my ignorant eyes to the truth that transfolk are just freakin' people. Just people trying g to live in a world that hates them and wants to erase their existance.
She sadly took the nine-mil night-night shortly after bottom surgery, but I am glad to have finally gotten to know her before she was gone.
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ImOpTimAlMar 27, 2026
+7
That breaks my heart, really. I'm glad to have read of your story - you speak of her with real softness in your heart, and I love to hear it.
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GirlmodeMar 28, 2026
+10
If only the world didn’t need to be directly confronted with someone they care about to be capable of empathy. Think the world is kind of screwed until majority of people can care outside of their own bubble in many ways.
I think that’s why I have so little hope of tolerance of people like me and my wife ever being a thing.
There isn’t anything more isolating than 99% of my conversations being the first trans person anyone has spoken to irl. Nearly everyone I talk to likes me. But what does it matter, there are like 200 registered trans women in my area of 160000 people. If direct confrontation with someone is needed to have empathy it’s never going to get better.
Exhausted honesty and reading that people only change when relatives are trans always gets me. As yeah it’s nice that changes people. But there is an endless hopelessness that accompanies that need for change.
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Free_Stomach_6767Mar 28, 2026
-1
Wow, why were you such a d*** in the first place? I think it's a fair question to ask.
-1
PM_ME_A_PM_PLEASE_PMMar 28, 2026
+1
RIP sorry for your loss. Sad truth about the world and especially the internet is it's filled with idiots that think they know significantly more than they do about life. Practically everyone has to learn the hard way nowadays if they can learn at all.
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txrollerMar 27, 2026
+27
Marginalized groups receive so much bullying and hate. I was just on another thread and the bOTh PArTies are the same shit popped up. So sick of it and facist bullies in this country
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Pan_Bookish_EntMar 27, 2026
+7
My best friend, and her girlfriend, just moved all the way across the country to be safe(r) from discrimination and hate. We live in a very red state, and she was lucky to find a physician to start her transition. I already miss her terribly, but I know it's more important for her to feel safe, taken care of, and loved in her new very, very blue state.
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Appropriate-Bug-6467Mar 27, 2026
+4
The minority of minorities born in a house where no one is like them.
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Affectionate-Ad-2013Mar 28, 2026
+1
It is both parties though, one is just more upfront and violent about it. I have received an a huge amount of transphobia from liberals who think trans people are the reason Trump won.
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Warcrimes_DesuMar 27, 2026
+13
trans women are the women of women after all lol
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Capable_Kiwi2514Mar 27, 2026
+2
Disabled people.
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Free_Stomach_6767Mar 28, 2026
+1
What are "center right dems"?
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murderedbyanameMar 27, 2026
+60
The incel brigade alerts each other when convos about topics like this are posted.
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Stingray88Mar 27, 2026
+23
And they all have their comment histories hidden so we can’t find where they’re discussing this shit. It’s gotten to the point that any time I see someone making bad faith arguments with a hidden comment history, I know I can immediately write them off.
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RenoRiley1Mar 27, 2026
+6
You’d only hide your comment history if you were a bot or a troll. Honestly this site would be 500% better if I could auto-block every account history hidden “user”
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OpticLemonMar 28, 2026
+1
I hide my comment history because I'm a trans person and I don't want to make it easy for shitty people to find info about me
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uzlonewolfMar 27, 2026
Or we just don't want to make it easy for someone to dox us. Have we already forgotten what happened to that Helldivers guy?
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Stingray88Mar 27, 2026
+1
Not sure what subs you subscribe to, but that’s definitely not my experience.
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queenringletsMar 27, 2026
+14
Protecting women my ass.
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dantoddMar 27, 2026
+2
No. My understanding is that it's gene inspection. It's really the best way, it's simple, it's definitive and it is not biased. Now, some might argue it is not the right line to draw but it is the most obvious and can be definitely tested do you aren't relying on anyone's interpretation of results or appealing results based on temporary chemical/hormonal aberrations
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AssassinAragornMar 28, 2026
+8
It really isn't a good way. There's a nontrivial percentage of people who don't have just XX or XY. Hell there's people who have both XX and XY because in the womb they absorbed a twin of the opposite gender.
If we're going to disqualify people who are intersex or have atypically high testosterone levels because of freak genetics, why aren't we disqualifying people with other freak genetics? Some endurance runners and bicyclists have a mutation which allows their body to process lactic acid buildup more efficiently. Why aren't we banning them from competitive sports? Michael Phelps had an unusually large wingspan, why was he allowed to compete? There is no "simple" in biology. It's always a spectrum.
What we have seen from trans athletes competing is that they don't actually dominate the competition. They don't even place well sometimes. Conservative women will complain about how they got 4th instead of 3rd place to someone trans, and conveniently ignore that 2nd and 1st were both much better and were cis people.
It does not seem like being trans confers a massive benefit in athletics -- at the very least, nothing close to the benefits from height, lactic acid processing, or atypical body dimensions. It doesn't have a benefit that's higher than typical genetic variation within the human genome. Consequently it's completely insensible to ban based on that.
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Spire_CitronMar 28, 2026
+3
Yeah. With trans people, the argument is always that they'll never be 100% equal to an average cis person, but no top athlete is and many have biological advantages that blow being trans out of the water. It doesn't have to be zero advantage, just not such a significant advantage that they are completely dominating. And it clearly isn't that.
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SteamcurlMar 28, 2026
+6
The chances that every competitor will get tested is ZERO. Just the ones that don't look feminine enough. Patriarchy codified.
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dantoddMar 28, 2026
The number of anti-doping and baseline blood tests, etc that EVERY competitor goes through I'm sure that every athlete will be tested
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Equivalent_Range6291Mar 27, 2026
-6
Are they entering the ring to box or to fcuk? ..
I hate the Americanisation of everything!
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Stingray88Mar 27, 2026
+26
This isn’t a uniquely American thing. There’s plenty of conservative countries worldwide that are substantially worse.
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Hazel-CakesMar 27, 2026
+1
america fuels and pays for it. check out “who’s afraid of gender,” by judith butler.
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txrollerMar 27, 2026
+15
Right wing hate / facism isn’t just an American feeling. Unfortunately it is running many countries. They are fighting it as well as the liberals in the US
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PM_ME_A_PM_PLEASE_PMMar 28, 2026
+1
It's past that. You can have a vag and still not be considered an eligible woman in the Olympics
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clansing192Mar 28, 2026
+1
I mean Turkey requires gay men to provide video and photographic evidence that you're gay. Idk that we ever left this period of history.
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False_Temperature_68Mar 28, 2026
+1
Paul Hogan enters the convention..
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Edogawa1983Mar 27, 2026
+1
Can't they just do dna test
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A1sauc3dMar 28, 2026
+4
I mean that’s basically what they’re doing, genetic testing.
> Since taking over as the sport's Olympic-level governing body, World Boxing has implemented a **one-time genetic test requirement** for athletes competing in women's categories. It's **designed to identify the presence of Y chromosome genetic material**, while also outlining additional evaluation pathways in complex cases.
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KyrosivMar 27, 2026
-7
Pretty fucked up. I can’t imagine how this may mess with a persons psyche.
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AlphaSistersOfBattleMar 28, 2026
We have entered the V***** Inspection Point of History AGAIN, to be more specific.
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Mortiis07Mar 27, 2026
+368
So how was this woman protected?
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wiithepiipleMar 27, 2026
+144
It’s always the case with transphobia that it will likely negatively affect cis women and girls, just out of sheer numbers. There are so few trans women that their crusade is going to inevitably harm those they claim to protect. Even if they’re filled with hate for trans people, they’re still making it a problem for all women.
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CaptainMcFisticuffs2Mar 27, 2026
+41
> they’re still making it a problem for all women
I imagine transphobes actually really enjoy that “perk”
Also needless to say trans women are a part of “all women” ❤️
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Accomplished_Yam8679Mar 27, 2026
+117
>"We recognize that this has been a difficult period for the boxer and the CTBA and appreciate the way they have approached the appeal process and their acknowledgement of World Boxing's requirement to ensure that its eligibility policy, which is designed to deliver safety and sporting integrity, has been correctly implemented and followed," World Boxing secretary general Tom Dielen said.
I'm sure she, and every other female athlete subject to such testing, feel very safe as a result of all this.
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kdlangequalsgoddessMar 27, 2026
+1241
The next male athlete who is 'reviewed' for 'sex eligibility' will be the first one ever. Hormonal and genetic mutations in men are celebrated as 'naturally gifted' (see Michael Phelps), while hormonal and genetic mutations in women are viewed with suspicion at best. While the language used in the rules is neutral, it is exclusively used to punch down on women, and mostly non-white women who don't fit an extremely narrow view of what women athletes should look like.
Edit: thank you for the awards!
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AnotherJaysonMar 27, 2026
+273
Aren't male just "open" category?
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resumehelpacctMar 27, 2026
+38
At the olympics? I believe equastrian is the only remaining sport without any gender qualifications.
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aradraugfeaMar 27, 2026
+141
Depends on the sport.
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PseudonymicoMar 27, 2026
+37
Not since a woman won gold in Olympic target shooting.
Plus I don't have time for this bullshit argument after people got mad about trans women in fencing, chess and darts.
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lethal_universedMar 28, 2026
+4
Not that I agree with transphobes, but isn't fencing a physical sport, so they could make the arguement that transwomen would be physically superior at it
EDIT: fencing, not chess
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PseudonymicoMar 28, 2026
+1
Oddly enough it has a lot of mixed competition. I only found that out because one of the people who did the "mediocre athlete loses to a trans woman and makes it everyone else's problem" grift was a fencer who had beaten a cis man in a mixed fencing match not long before she lost to a trans woman.
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HumansNeedNotApply1Mar 27, 2026
+61
No. Many sports are segregated.
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Caspi7Mar 27, 2026
-33
Yes segregated in an open and protected class, women are protected because they can't physically compete with men. In theory they would be allowed to compete in the same category if they choose so, but there is no point since they would never be competitive.
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ShZykoMar 27, 2026
+33
It's not an open class in the Olympics.
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Coltons13Mar 27, 2026
+20
Wild how you chose to type this out completely wrong and ignorant as if you have any idea at all, champ!
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HumansNeedNotApply1Mar 27, 2026
+37
No, many sports are simply not "open" at all and are very well defined in separating men and women. The reasons, logical or not, based on factual realities of sexes or not doesn't matter, they forbid women from taking part in men's competitions.
Kathy Ledecky cannot register to compete against men in a World Acquatics competition under current registration rules even if she wanted to.
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FillMySoupDumplingMar 27, 2026
+3
Explain why Phelps, who has genetic factors to help him excel at swimming wasn’t disqualified for those. Other swimmers who don’t have genetics like that can’t compete.
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Caspi7Mar 27, 2026
He is not in a protected category. There is no upper bound for the male category, only for women.
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-47
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GenghisTron17Mar 27, 2026
+38
>I don’t see how this is pushing women down, rather than supporting
Do you think Imane Khelif felt supported?
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masnosremeMar 27, 2026
+54
You don't see how treating women who fall outside the the socially-expected norm with suspicion is pushing women down? You don't think it reinforces social stereotypes of femininity?
Look more "masculine" than is stereotypically expected? 'Might be a woman, better check her.' Have a genetic quirk that affects your hormones or something despite being born anatomically female and raised and identifying as such? 'Sorry, not woman enough, go play with the boys or (even better) go home.'
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dimhageMar 27, 2026
-48
You dont see how women like the Williams sisters, who are absolutely peak performers at tennis, would never have even been known if we had not given them a chance to shine?
You dont see you issue in women never being allowed to play competitive basketball, football or rugby because they would never be picked for any team, just so that we don't have to make an arbitrary line somewhere?
It is a difficult question what is and is not acceptable when it comes to these decision, and I do not pretend to know the answer. But abandoning female spaces in competitive sport all together is definitely not the answer.
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MoobooMagooMar 27, 2026
+16
Out of curiosity, do you think we should have forced Venus and Serena Williams to undergo this kind of sex eligibility review?
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dimhageMar 27, 2026
Definitely not. I just looked back and it does seem i miss understood the comment I responded too. I read it as there should not be a specific female "league" in sports and everyone should compete against each other because women are being "coddled".
Clearly that was not their intention at all. I think its important to have a space for women to be able to shine in their own right. I dont think transwomen are a threat to that, and I wish this wasn't a topic in public debate. It has impact on nearly no one's live except a minority group, who are already disadvantaged. I understand that some rules need to be in place to make it fair (actually having transitioned and taking the appropriate hormonal medicine to make it fair) but that was already covered before.
Again, I misunderstood the post i commented on.
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MoobooMagooMar 27, 2026
+3
Oooh OK. I'm glad because I was really confused and I was trying to figure out what you meant.
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TraitorMacbethMar 27, 2026
+23
What the hell are you responding to? That’s not what they said
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epicswagdouchebagMar 27, 2026
+28
Not the person you replied to, but I’m not seeing anyone in this chain argue for the abandonment of female spaces in competitive sport
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Adorable_End_5555Mar 27, 2026
+1
These sorts of comments are so disingenuous trans women competing do not prevent cis women from “shining”
Hormone treatment does stuff stop pretending it doesn’t
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dimhageMar 27, 2026
+2
I dont think they do, I misunderstood the comment. I thought I read that there just shouldn't be a female league at all. Everyone competes in the same league. That solution would be harmful to women.
I am not against transwomen competing, infact to me, as cis woman, this is an non-issue that has no impact on my life. This discussion does have impact on the lives of transwomen being the minority. I am not against transwomen in competitive sports. I think some rules should be implemented (and they already had been before this whole ruling) that some form of transition must be in place, and hormone treatment has been started. But that seems to be logical and no one seems to disagree on that. I just misunderstood the initial comment.
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murderedbyanameMar 27, 2026
+21
When they start gender testing men then let's talk. The boxing federations don't even try to hide why they only test women. They use the same exact reason as conservatives, to "protect women". It's ridiculous and not scientific. There are plenty of cis women who are physically stronger than a lot of cis men.
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chalbersmaMar 27, 2026
+3
It's not against the rules for a woman to box in the male division is it?
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XirdusMar 27, 2026
+12
I believe it is, mostly for cultural reasons (it would mean asking male boxers to punch a woman).
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gordonpamseyMar 27, 2026
-32
Why do people say this as if it's some innocuous thing? It's only open in the sense that there is this fundamental belief that women are incapable of competing with men at an equal level. So closing the league,teams, system, etc would be pointless but all that amounts to is misogyny. Mind you, most of these things are only open in name because the rare instances of women competing in these men dominated leagues often ends with them being pushed out by force.
Edit: people continue to strawman the position as Women and Men have no differences biologically. When in fact I recognize that but the inherent misogyny of only policing DSD and people outside the binary still remains. There is no actual truth to the idea that men's competitions are truly meant to be open. Men just believe that they are without competition from women so closing it would be a formality. Which allows people to say stupid shit like DSD and genetics do not affect men's sports when they do. You cannot even play in the NBA at this point if you are 6 foot but we are acting like this is not just the nature of sports. There is only so much policing of variation you can get before it's anti-science and an invasion of privacy.
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thejohns781Mar 27, 2026
+34
It is not misogynistic to say that men compete at a higher level than women in most sports
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LinkLinkleThreesomeMar 27, 2026
+12
It’s not misogyny to say that, outside of a tiny number of sports, elite female athletes cannot compete against elite male athletes. Let’s not throw the baby out with the bath water.
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PhilosophyBitter7875Mar 27, 2026
+1
That all just sounds like emotional feelings, more so than facts. There is a women's division so that women can participate, Its not some huge conspiracy that there are woman out there competing at the levels of Mbappe or Jokic and the reason why they aren't playing in the top leagues is because of misogyny.
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Rogue_LikeMar 27, 2026
+58
Im certain there are men who would exceed testosterone limits naturally. We just don't see news articles about it. There are always outliers.
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Falcon4242Mar 27, 2026
+101
Most testosterone limits for men are way higher than what's natural. The Olympic standard is a 4:1 T:E ratio, 4x higher than normal. For women, the standard is 2.5nmol/l, which is not only a completely different type of measurement, but only just barely above the top end of "normal" (0.5-2.4).
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YuskiaMar 27, 2026
+8
Not that im doubting you, but where are you getting your numbers from? My urologist mentioned wanting a 10:1 T:E ratio.
Edit: leaving this up for others potentially confused, its testosterone to epitestosterons, not estradiol.
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kdlangequalsgoddessMar 27, 2026
+7
You can read 100 stories about EVs catching on fire, and zero about gas-powered vehicles catching on fire. Even though the latter are much more common.
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rethardusMar 27, 2026
+2
Humans tend to only notice bad things when something is new or strange.
For example, I'm the first one to shit on AI, but a lot of the arguments against AI that are present in older technologies simply get ignored. Pollution, lack of critical thinking, lack of soul in art, these problems are all there in older techs.
I think of AI as a multiplier, we have bad habits and problems that come from a root cause. Of course when you magnify our bad habits, it will be our current problems on steroids.
This is not to say we should not criticize anything new, but to say we should be equally critical to things that we take for a fact already.
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felipeunoMar 27, 2026
+9
This is probably going to piss everyone off, but this kind of inspection of genetic makeup to compete seems to be diluting the legitimacy of women’s sports. At what point does this just become an issue of “fairness” outweighing competition?
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GoochStubbleMar 27, 2026
+16
Its almost like the hyper nationalist nature of the Olympics is bread and circuses used to further cultural superiority. And since the US leads thru patriarchal values, misogyny amd transphobia follows
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eightdxMar 27, 2026
+3
Yeah honestly when you strip away the pomp and circumstance, the olympics are only a hop, skip, and jump away from just being the international Hunger Games
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RealsorcerorMar 27, 2026
+18
It’s crazy to see the variation of size in men they allow in Basketball and Football. It’s totally normal to see a player who is 2 ft taller or 200 lbs heavier. But in women’s sports you get punished if you have some trait too far out of the average. Especially if you aren’t considered white.
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robby_synclairMar 27, 2026
+76
What is this nonsense. The tallest woman in the wnba is 7'2" and the shortest is 5'2". Softball has girls of different shapes and sizes as well. This just isnt a thing.
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SergeantButtNakedMar 27, 2026
+96
So we can expect Piers Morgan and the like to make a public apology? Right?
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kdlangequalsgoddessMar 27, 2026
+18
You're funny.
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ShinjischneiderMar 27, 2026
+55
And yet Rowling keeps attacking her
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CrimsonHereticMar 28, 2026
+13
She's a disgusting transphobe AND a racist AND an ignorant petty b****. I'm utterly disgusted that there's going to be a HP reboot for her to make even more money off people who just don't give a f*** about women or trans people.
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ThreeTreesForTheePlsMar 27, 2026
+89
Friendly reminder that the group who argue for the protection of women and the sanctity of women’s sports, are likely to be the same ones who have never spent a moment watching women’s sports.
Oh and if it’s a science and common sense praise, make sure to mention how likely they are to view Covid as a hoax or vaccinations in general.
But yall have fun in here, best of luck.
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murderedbyanameMar 27, 2026
+195
Every other sports federation dropped gender testing in the 90s because they finally acknowledged it was ineffective and offensive. But not the boxing federations. No siree. We gotta "protect the ladies" from them strong suspicious lookin' feeemales. 🙄🙄🙄
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witchgroveMar 27, 2026
+98
and the IOC as of yesterday. who haven't learned from their mistake the last time they did this.
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murderedbyanameMar 27, 2026
+25
The IOC uses World Boxing Federation for governing of boxing. They used to use the International Boxing Association until there was finally enough corruption exposed to embarrass the Olympics committee into dropping them.
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WyrmnaxMar 27, 2026
+8
I can only fathom how much corruption you must have to steer the IOC away from something. I mean, they even have peace prizes and all.
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Guy_GuyGuyMar 27, 2026
+7
They learned and knew better, they just bent the knee to the pedophile-in-chief because they're cowards and he scribbled in crayon on construction paper telling them to.
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FillMySoupDumplingMar 28, 2026
+1
I hate to say it but it seems like people were smarter and less bigoted ten years ago or more.
As a culture, we are regressing.
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AssassinAragornMar 28, 2026
+1
I took it for granted that culture always progressed
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Glittering_Hope1114Mar 27, 2026
+60
Rowling claimed that they are a man
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queenringletsMar 27, 2026
+81
Rowling is a misogynist.
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hextanerfMar 28, 2026
+1
I thought her main argument against transgender was they're endangering women? How is that misogynist? More like sexist
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CatrionaShadowleafMar 27, 2026
+31
Lady Moldemort should be more worried about her walls than other people’s genitals.
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lethal_universedMar 28, 2026
+7
Love how she always claims a WOC is a man
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RockyroxMar 27, 2026
+3
Well I’m sure that will be the end to all that!
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yaboyjiggleclayMar 27, 2026
+87
This is a humiliation ritual. Plain & simple.
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DroopyTersMar 27, 2026
+29
I highly recommend [this article](https://www.readtpa.com/p/the-iocs-new-policy-isnt-really-a) about who is mostly impacted by the IOC policy. The MSM headlines miss the point.
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Warcrimes_DesuMar 27, 2026
+12
i hate that the narrative is always "oooo but what if this anti trans policy hurts *cis women*" and centers them ngl
like yes, that will happen and it sucks, but like god, imagine they passed the "f*** you" law, and every article is "The 'F*** You' Law will impact way more people besides 'You' and they're way more important!"
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DroopyTersMar 27, 2026
+11
Most advocates of the IOC ruling would say some version of "yay, it protects women" so it is worthwhile to point out that it is undeniably harming women. The article was written by a trans woman, btw.
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AnswerAdorable5555Mar 27, 2026
+3
Thank you for posting this. Very informative and changed how I think about this.
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zzztokenMar 27, 2026
+23
Just foul that women are subjected to this shit. It feels like medieval times checking to see if a woman is “pure” still.
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gordonpamseyMar 27, 2026
+56
We are going to continue to test women who do not adhere to eurocentric standards of beauty and femininity. In an effort to protect women's sports from trans fems and DSD individuals, as if it's not all kayfabe. These people do not care about the "fairness" of biological advantage or it would be applied unilaterally. We would have to start banning people like Wemby for being generational athletes in a way that can't be replicated. What people care about is pushing forward a standard of what a woman is and normalizing a complete misrepresentation of biological function.
Oh well, can't wait till we get back to the point where they start arguing black women are biologically too dissimilar from white women to compete. Or that you need a set amount of estrogen and certain bodily functions to compete. Just lay the carpet out to invade the privacy of every female athlete at every level of organized sports please. /S for the people who cant detect sarcasm.
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0b0011Mar 27, 2026
+12
They've been pushing that for a long while. Why do you think they make trans athletes take testosterone blockers in the first place? They're trying to say you're not a woman if you have a man's level of testosterone rather than just being like yeah some women are going to have testosterone levels several times higher than the average max for a cis woman.
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PseudonymicoMar 27, 2026
+5
>Why do you think they make trans athletes take testosterone blockers in the first place?
They don't have to make trans athletes take testosterone blockers. Trans women were either already taking them as part of their hormone therapy or had genital surgery and make less testosterone on average than cis women.
They make intersex women take T blockers.
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hillarydidnineelevenMar 28, 2026
+1
Sorry I'm not exactly an expert on this subject so I could be wrong here but wouldn't a trans athlete be able to just reduce the dose of their Testosterone blockers to keep them at the limit of what is "acceptable" to compete? Wouldn't that alone give them a competitive advantage over athletes who are banned from using exogenous hormones?
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PseudonymicoMar 28, 2026
+1
If it led to their hormone levels changing it would be picked up by the same drug tests they give cis athletes. Even if trans athletes weren't kept under even more of a microscope than cis athletes it would also take a lot longer to have a meaningful effect than just taking a performance-enhancing drug, that's why the regulations have always required trans athletes to spend a set amount of time with their testosterone below the limit to qualify (the lowest I remember hearing of is 9 months but it's usually a year or two). Even if it was enough to matter it's not nearly as invasive to make sure a trans athlete takes a pill every day or an injection every week as the kind of shit they're putting everyone through to keep J.K Rowling and Donald Trump from yelling at them on the internet.
And that's assuming the trans athlete still has functioning testicles.
It obviously kept trans women from having an unfair advantage over cis women given the actual results on the field. Frankly, too well. Do you know how many women competed in the Olympics between 2004 and 2024? If trans women had no difference in performance to cis women, then just going off the statistics you'd expect to see something like 100 trans women compete and a few of them to win medals. IIRC only two trans women even qualified, one of those competed, and she came dead last.
That's not an argument for banning trans women. If you care about fairness it's an argument for making it easier for trans women to compete. Even if trans women steamrolled their opponents the way people somehow still think they do the answer would be to figure out handicaps to make it fair (and apply that to everyone, not just women), but like I said, this is just sucking up to people like JK Rowling and Donald Trump (fun fact, do you know how many prominent transphobes were pals with Jeffrey Epstein? Even more fun, he seems to have invited a bunch of them to one of his conferences just before they all started spouting off about trans people, for some reason).
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AdhesivenessFun2060Mar 27, 2026
+24
I was saying the other day that we're not far from these people calling for banning certain races being better at sports.
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SenanbMar 27, 2026
-10
We're nowhere near there. This is just hyperbol
-10
explosivecrateMar 27, 2026
+1
You're right, they wouldn't use that excuse. They'd just say they're getting rid of the DEI picks instead.
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FillMySoupDumplingMar 27, 2026
+12
Seems like every high performing woman who doesn’t adhere to some kind of beauty standard is going to come under this kind of scrutiny.
I haven’t seen any reason why this kind of stuff is acceptable to screen out athletes, but then they allow athletes who have clear genetic advantages like Phelps compete against others who don’t.
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SadMediumSmolBeanMar 27, 2026
+2
The point is eugenics and reductively defining the category of woman to exclude anyone outside the social "norm" of being weak.
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xdeltax97Mar 27, 2026
+23
Just what the f***, let people compete.
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GarryofRivertonMar 27, 2026
-10
Women's divisions exist solely because they couldn't compete with men.
-10
palcatrazMar 28, 2026
+4
And yet, the women's divisions were open to trans women for years and years before it became this cultural witch hunt and they were never overrun by trans athletes or men pretending to be women just to win a medal. Almost as if it's a completely made up problem just to hate more on trans individuals.
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fedexyourheadinaboxMar 27, 2026
+8
"sex eligibility review"
Kindly go f*** yourself and your reviews.
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GiraffePolkaMar 27, 2026
+8
I wonder why it seems to have taken so long. I keep reading people say it must just be a cheek swab, but it seems like this process started for her last year after World Boxing wouldn't let her fight at an event.
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Glittering_Hope1114Mar 27, 2026
+46
Maybe we shouldn't be chasing after people everytime Rowling claims people are secretly men.
and the Reality is intersex people were cleared to be at the Olympics if they met a certain criteria and have been for a long time. So I don't think all the irrational hatred because Rowling and Musk decided that they hate trans people is really justified especially considering this woman is not even trans.
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GiraffePolkaMar 27, 2026
+10
Oh i agree. Im just annoyed that so many people were like "its just a cheek swab why arent these athletes doing it!" - when clearly its not just a cheek swab if it takes months to do.
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Witch-AliceMar 27, 2026
+3
The Olympics is now literally doing p**** inspections. What a timeline.
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SadMediumSmolBeanMar 27, 2026
+5
TERFs and transphobes continue calling her a man. Because this eugenicist sex/gender purity transphobia/intersex-phobia bullshit, is as always, defining women as weak, normative and birthing machines.
I'm waiting the inevitable suicides. We already did this shit once.
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slanderpantherMar 27, 2026
+3
Sex police will be personally inspecting your junk now? I hate this place.
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socialdistingrayMar 27, 2026
-4
"Yes, you've had enough. You may participate."
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OceLawlessMar 28, 2026
+1
Terfism is a mental illness that always ends up at genital inspections. Cool and normal.
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pingu3101Mar 28, 2026
+1
Can someone explain what this means? What's a sex eligibility review?
Is she someone who is trans?
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etang77Mar 28, 2026
+3
Some thought she was after 2024 Paris, but now she's cleared she's not trans.
Edited: I edited the Olympics, I had the wrong year of Olympics...
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pingu3101Mar 28, 2026
+4
so she did really well, and people thought she was a trans with an unfair advantage or something and they accused her and she had to get evaluated by a doctor to be allowed to compete? that's fucked
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themiDdlestMar 28, 2026
>"We recognize that this has been a difficult period for the boxer and the CTBA
Someone there should look into why this is such a difficult thing for a woman to compete in a woman's sport
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linkfevarMar 28, 2026
-1
just make boxing open, men and women shouldn’t even have leagues
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