From the article:
“Should diplomacy be given a chance? Of course it should,” Pahlavi said, dismissively. “But then again … we know by now that in its DNA, [the regime] is incapable of coming to terms with coexistence with a free democratic [society]. It has as a mission to export an ideology.”
Pahlavi also said that Trump’s occasional threats to attack Iranian civilian infrastructure and wipe out Iranian “civilization” — even if merely a negotiating tactic — were not helpful, “because, again, it’s part of sending the mixed signal,” only this time, to the Iranian people, who will wonder, “Are you here to liberate us or further hurt us?”
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HormuzVengeance23 hr ago
+42
He is right.
He is right about the contents of Trump’s messages, and he is doubly right about the regime being completely and utterly incapable of coexisting within any society that has even a shred of humanity.
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tedecristal23 hr ago
-26
Current suSA regime, amrite?
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HormuzVengeance23 hr ago
+27
No. The islamic republic regime who brutally subjugates and oppresses Iranians by decree of their islam in their illegitimate occupation; who gang rapes Iranian women and girls as sanctioned by the state; who has daily hangings; and who only in January murdered 30,000 civilians who were protesting for basic human rights and democracy.
That regime.
Edit: how you can downvote this is beside me.
Truly, Listnook is a cesspool of terrorist supporters. Shame on you.
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drunkenbrawler22 hr ago
-15
People are terrorist supporters because they downvote a listnook post?
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HormuzVengeance22 hr ago
+13
When they downvote the criticism of a terrorist regime, then yes. It can be assumed that they support said regime.
Also, https://www.piratewires.com/p/the-terrorist-propaganda-to-listnook-pipeline
So yes again.
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tedecristal22 hr ago
-26
TehRoriSTs W0N!
talk about believeing "comparing" is the same as "being equal".
current USA regime DOES NOT have a shred of humanity. Cruelty is the point.
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HormuzVengeance22 hr ago
+16
Did the US federal government legalise the marriage of 9 year old US children and regularly legally r*** them? islamic republic does for iranian children.
Does the US government torture, disfigure, r***, and murder American women for showing their hair? islamic republic does for Iranian women.
Does the US federal government sanction gang r*** to be used punitively against American women? islamic republic does for Iranian women.
Does the US have daily public hangings from cranes? islamic republic does.
Does the US government import terrorist militias like hashd al shaab to murder American citizens on American soil? islamic republic does for Iranian citizens on Iranian soil.
What happened at the last no kings protest? How many Americans went out into the streets to protest? Tens and tens of thousands. Every single one of those Americans went home that night to talk about it and post memes on Listnook.
What happened in Iran in January when people went out to protest for human rights and democracy? 30,000 civilians were murdered by the state in the streets.
Did the American government murder 30,000 Americans in cold blood for wanting better living conditions? Did they? Did they fire indiscriminately at people and then go into hospitals to murder the injured, murder the doctors, and gang r*** the nurses?
Because islamic republic did all of that.
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cetootski22 hr ago
-13
You are just taught that some form of violence is terror while some are "justice". In reality it's just state oppression done with different media spin.
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Ill-Incident-484222 hr ago
+13
Which specific point is "media spin"? The child marriages? The crane hangings? The many thousands killed in January? Could you maybe pick one and explain how that's equivalent to anything happening in the US?
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cetootski22 hr ago
-16
What is worse, child marriage or bombing children? Both is state terror.
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HormuzVengeance22 hr ago
+12
Comparing child marriage to bombing children as a way to defend the status quo is a weird hill to die on. How about we support the option where neither happens?
That option is a secular, sovereign Iran - which is exactly what the people in the streets are dying for while you're busy making “state terror” comparisons.
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Ill-Incident-484222 hr ago
+9
You just compared a military strike gone wrong to legally raping 9-year-olds. That tells me everything I need to know about your argument. We're done here.
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SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING21 hr ago
+7
Trump’s philosophy is also against any free democratic society. His role models for governing are Putin and Kim Jong Un.
Which means a shitty agreement is possible. That’s why you shouldn’t put your faith in someone like him.
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profjonathan23 hr ago
+29
The signals haven't been mixed; from the start, Trump's signals have consistently been, "I haven't the slightest idea what I'm doing."
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Feliz_Desdichado23 hr ago
+20
Pahlavi doesn't seem to understand he was used and thrown away, Machado style. Just like both of their causes.
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ithinkitslupis21 hr ago
+10
I don't think they ever used him? Iranian protesters were naturally gravitating to him as someone outside the regime who still talked of a transition to freedom and democracy...before the massacre and internet crackdown.
Trump has seemed to always just not like, support or believe in Pahlavi. Which sort of sucked because trying to put forth a clear plan of action for a democratic transition for Iran in the early days of the war might have helped bolster some local revolutionary support...better than having 0 plan at least.
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asdhjasdhlkjashdhgf16 hr ago
+2
trumps indeed not obvious backing a democratic movement but to contrary distancing from it curbs claims of "US installed Pahlavi". And at least to me it doesn't look like trump is explicit against it but incapable to cooperate for common goals without barking his typical style that alienates so many.
So i'd say the Pahlavi idea is not lost, just not openly endorsed with ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER. Could be a blessing later on to be not perceived as trumps dog.
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HormuzVengeance12 hr ago
+3
The notion that “US installed Pahlavi” was always a disinformation tactic by the regime to delegitimise their opposition.
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BOPSurfcasting20 hr ago
+4
Trump's mixed messaging is partly meant for his supporters who don't all think the same way about the war, by giving mixed messaging his different audiences can pick and choose what they want to hear.
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steve_ample23 hr ago
+6
He didn't notice Donnie can't stay on message at least five TACOs ago?
He lacks object permanence, man.
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UbiSububi823 hr ago
All Trump does is send mixed signals; MAGA then “interprets and analyzes.”
When you lack precision and consistency in what you say, \*everything\* is a mixed signal.
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Only-Childhood669122 hr ago
-4
So uh is this guy really dumb. Like Machado, Trump doesn't need him. I would be shocked if he even knew who the f*** he is? Hence why prostating yourself for him is pointless.
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