Pakistan doesn't even recognize Israel. It even says so in their passport "This passport is not valid in the state of Israel"
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krat0s771 day ago
+231
Having "state of Israel" in the passport while saying they don't recognize it seems kinda ironic...
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SpamOJavelin1 day ago
+146
They have "*not valid for travel to Israel"* \- no mention of a state. They recognise that Israel exists, but don't recognise Israel as a state.
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mad-data1 day ago
-1
[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Pakistani\_Passport\_Note\_about\_Israel.png](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2a/Pakistani_Passport_Note_about_Israel.png)
All counties except Israel. So they admit it is a country :)
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Feynnehrun1 day ago
+71
They admit that other people recognize Israel.
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phoenixmusicman1 day ago
+29
This is such a random "gotcha" lmao.
Congrats random listnookor, you found the fineprint loophole. Pakistan actually does recognize Israel they just pretend not to for... reasons?
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Sw15611 day ago
+14
This topic is so annoying to me. Like, you can say a country is illegitimate, but saying it's not a country sounds to me like saying it's not there.
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qTp_Meteor1 day ago
+3
Its just childish and immature to me, not even annoying
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Department-of-Wario1 day ago
+1
Nobody is looking to Pakistan for logic.
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Kumarthunderlund1 day ago
+2
It’s the same even for Saudi
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DiscipleOfYeshua1 day ago
+1
K I’m not sure they even recognize Lebanon….
Pakistan invited terrorists from Hezbollah to negotiate on behalf of Lebanon lol… the Lebanese de facto gov (which is at war with Hezbollah) wasn’t even invited.
Israel has no war with Lebanon, nor with Iran. It’s at war with Hezbollah and IRGC.
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suentendo1 day ago
+4
Oh man, jealous of Israel on that one.
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yosisoy1 day ago
+1
TIL.
And this is one of the saner Muslim states
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10sansari1 day ago
-26
Ok so?
That doesn't really play a part in this situation.
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Bubbly-Magician--1 day ago
+28
It kind of does, how are you supposed to be a mediator and expect nations to listen to you when you specifically claim those same nations don't exist?
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balooaroos1 day ago
+501
The same Pakistan that's been bombing Afghanistan? The ones who recently blew up a rehab facility full of innocent people? Who in the past did all kinds of messed up stuff including assisting Osama Bin Laden?
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Concave56211 day ago
+108
This may shock you but most countries do hypocritical stuff. But in this case Pakistan is acting as mediator between the US and Iran, and they messaged out the terms of the ceasefire which included the cessation of hostilities in Lebanon. So like it or not they are the correct party to be making declarations like this
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isaacfisher1 day ago
+170
They act as mediator between Iran and US, is Israel part of the negotiations? AFAIK Pakistan doesn’t acknowledge Israel at all so how does that even works
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KaliUK1 day ago
+3
Afghanistan is called the graveyard of empires for a reason.
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yosisoy1 day ago
+14
Did you reply to the right comment?
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Mac629611 day ago
+48
I hear you but they are mediating us and iran. Not israel right?
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Concave56211 day ago
+16
The US is negotiating on behalf of Israel and Iran correctly views them as a single adversary.
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Jugaimo1 day ago
+18
Does Israel know this?
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FinishImmediate66841 day ago
-3
As an American, why are we funding their war and subsidizing their healthcare and military? Fight your own f****** war.
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Karffs1 day ago
+16
It’s your war lol. How deluded are you that you think your President hasn’t caused this mess.
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yosisoy1 day ago
+6
>subsidizing their healthcare and military?
If only this was true
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Aryeh981 day ago
+55
Pakistan doesn’t even recognize Israel as a state, so it doesn’t get to mediate regarding Israel’s conduct.
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Concave56211 day ago
+23
The US has been negotiating on Israel’s behalf, and obviously (and correctly) Iran treats them as one adversary.
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greenskinmarch1 day ago
+22
And obviously (and correctly) Israel treats Iran and Hezbollah as one adversary.
So every attack on Israel by Hezbollah (there have been numerous attacks going back decades) is a casus belli for Israel to start a just war against Iran.
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yosisoy1 day ago
+10
The Mullah lovers want to have their cake and eat it too
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Odd-Banana-24291 day ago
+43
Does not change the fact the mediator can’t/wont communicate with half of the adversary directly.
That’s a real issue and you’re acting like it’s not even a consideration.
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bugsbunny31101 day ago
+6
Bro thinks Pakistan has any moral authority, after killing thousands of its own citizens, allowing abduction and rapes of minors from different religions, systamatic killings and terrorism through out the world. It's the same as any dictator of the past. End will be the same too
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dragon_idli1 day ago
+5
I read that pak handed over a manipulated agreement to both iran and usa. So neither iran nor usa knew what the other country was asking since man-in-middle caused changes. It's weird that delegations don't use mitm safeguards and depend on mediator to deliver the messages properly.
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huhwhuh1 day ago
+1
They are pro IRGC and obviously biased towards Israel. Sure as f*** ain't the 'correct party' to be making any declarations with no proof of mediation apart from making sweeping statements.
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lamebarracuda1 day ago
+15
Pakistan is the last country that could demand anything from anyone. It’s obvious USA got Pakistan involved because they are the only Muslim country that will do what US tells them to do.
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thereitis9001 day ago
+426
Ah yes Pakistan the country that hid Osama Bin Laden for a decade. The true arbiters of peace and justice.
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skeleton9491 day ago
+210
Don't forget how they were the biggest supporters of the Taliban (until the terrorists decided they didn't have to obey Pakistan, that is)
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ModernirsmEnjoyer1 day ago
+11
Don't forget they literally summoned Cthulhu
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skeleton9491 day ago
+15
Honestly with how 2026 is going i wouldn't be surprised
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halakaukulele1 day ago
+3
In this economy and with rising fuel prices? Naww dog
Can't afford to feed another mouth as the table
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MachineSpirited70851 day ago
how many can they summon; i feel one isnt enough in this timeline
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thereisnosuch1 day ago
What is this reference?
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jpmjake1 day ago
+45
And a victim of Islamization, founded the same year as the 3000-year-old reestablished nation they're claiming as nearly illegitimate.
Definitely an objective observer.
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ShinyGrezz1 day ago
-6
Slight point here, not making judgement either way, but "3000 year old reestablished nation" sort of glosses over the fact that it *wasn't* a nation for 2000 of them. The fact that Israel used to exist two millennia ago can't really be used as a basis for its existence today.
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jpmjake1 day ago
+11
In fact, it can. It is called decolonization. In indigenous rights, an ancient people with documented ties to the land does not LOSE those rights because of colonization or exile. Therefore, Israel retains rights to its ancestral homeland despite brutalization over millennia. While losing sovereignty due to conquest and colonization, Jews have retained residence in the land for MOST of that period of time as proved by the historic record.
Jews remain the oldest still-identifiable nation of people indigenous to the land.
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-Salty-Pretzels-1 day ago
+12
So native americans should reclaim all of the US and expel the descendants of all european migrants?
Should México? Should all Latinoamérica do the same?
Should the keltic descendants expel al saxon and roman descendants from 'albion'?
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jpmjake1 day ago
+1
So you don't believe in indigenous rights. Got it.
And Israel doesn't expel all others. In fact, there are millions of Muslim/Arab and Christian Israelis, with full citizenship. Zionism is not an exclusionary philosophy, unlike Islamist fundamentalism.
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-Salty-Pretzels-1 day ago
+6
Who f****** does?
Go ask spain, the US goverment, France, the brittish Empire, any modern country what they think about indigenius rights!!!! LOL!!
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Anrativa1 day ago
+1
They can try, definitely. The thing is, they don't have the power to sustain it. At least in the case of Mexico (I'm Mexican).
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Kalnb1 day ago
+1
Hahahahahahhaha, no lmao.
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PaulTheIV1 day ago
-1
It's pretty easy to condemn 1,500 murders. That bar is low enough
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GiantKrakenTentacle1 day ago
-8
Well in this case yes. They literally mediated the ceasefire.
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10sansari1 day ago
-12
But don't you get it? Pakistan bad and the US had nothing to do with terrorism and instability in that region!
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CloudTransit1 day ago
-10
Are you Switzerland?
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chintakoro1 day ago
+238
can’t demand shit from a country you refuse to recognize or have diplomatic relations with.
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BetSquare71901 day ago
+159
Pakistan should also ask Hezbollah to disarm and dismantle.
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opx221 day ago
-17
Isn’t Hezbollah the group that formed literally to fight off the invasion and occupation of southern Lebanon by Israel?
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Karffs1 day ago
+20
Well Israel withdrew from Southern Lebanon 26 years ago so sounds like Hezbollah not needed anymore in that case?
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MedvedTrader1 day ago
+83
Um. Who the hell is Pakistan to "demand" anything?
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MegaLemonCola1 day ago
+55
‘There is no country called “Israel”, but if there were, please stop firing at our terrorist mates, thanks.’
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RabbitCity60901 day ago
+18
Too rich coming from pakistan TBH.
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ClosetGoblin1 day ago
+107
Sounds like Pakistan is upset their terrorist allies are getting blasted
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10sansari1 day ago
-14
Could say the same for the USA
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surf_rider1 day ago
+13
I’m probably out of my mind for thinking I’d ever get an objective reply to this, but here goes — What are Israel’s justifications for these most recent bombings?
I’m not justifying it, rather trying to understand what could ever conceivably justify this.
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ElMasAltoDeLosEnanos1 day ago
+25
Over 3500 missiles, rockets and drones were launched by Hezbollah against Israel from march - april 2026. Problem is you only read news about the Israeli response and not about the cause.
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hoishinsauce1 day ago
+3
Is there any attack on Israel by Hezbollah right before the supposed "ceasefire" announcement? I'm genuinely asking because the news sites are all omitting information that doesn't further their own narrative.
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snil41 day ago
+1
They fire rockets on a daily basis mainly at the upper Galil (Kiryat Shmona and all nearby towns). But just like in 2023-24, if it's not on Tel-Aviv or Jerusalem it doesn't make a headline.
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hoishinsauce1 day ago
+1
Has there been any escalation prior to the ceasefire, or is it just the same frequency? I'm asking because I'm trying to corroborate some stories and theories about Israel (or someone else) trying to sabotage the ceasefire, or it's just a coincidence that it happened during a ceasefire announcement.
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HarEr891 day ago
+68
The "neutral mediator" demands from Israel to stop fighting Hebollah terrorists and at the same time calls Israel cancer and wishes that Israel wouldn't exist. Hilarious!
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Affectionate-Cap-9201 day ago
+8
Forgot who sheltered Bin laden near an army facility in abbottabad, and who is the mother of the Taliban ?
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Captain_Ahab21 day ago
+24
Why don’t they demand that Hezb stops shelling rockets at Israel and civilians? (Over 7000 were launched so far just in the past 2 month) like it or not Netanyahu won’t stop until they stop first, and he holds the upper hands…
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Comfortable_Cash_1401 day ago
+76
Do these 'demands' apply to Hezballah?
Or do we think Israel should just accept getting hit by rocket barrage after rocket barrage?
I hate war. I hate the hypocrisy of the world!
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Ultra_Metal1 day ago
+53
Of course they don't apply to Hezbollah. Islamic extremist states like Pakistan believe that Jews don't have the right to self defense and Islamic extremists have the right to attack anyone they want without consequences.
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W313371 day ago
+5
You should forget these initial demands. It's like a bidding, you want a billion for your product and the buyer wants it for free. It's an insane position but you can both agree to allow further bids.
After the 12 days you are either going to hear about an extension of the ceasefire or a deal they both can agree to, or they can't agree and war continues.
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justjigger1 day ago
+19
I thought pakistan doesnt recognize Israel as existing? How can something that doesnt exist cause 1500 casualties?
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ringtail_catz1 day ago
+5
So is Pakistan going to stop bombing Afghanistan then or what?
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Amonfire17761 day ago
+32
By that logic, Israel should demand that they settle the Kashmiri border issue and the Afghanistan War as a requirement for hosting the talks...
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Stressedsoul01 day ago
+2
The question is does Isreal know about it.
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earth_mail1 day ago
+6
Terrorists demanding terrorists to stop terrorising.. what a world we live in
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infraGem1 day ago
+25
How many of the 1500 are Hezbollah? This is straight out of the Hamas playbook.
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HarEr891 day ago
+36
That's the reason Lebanon makes no difference between killed Hebollah and civilians. When Israel kills 100 Hebollah the Lebanese officials will cry "Israel killed 100 people! The world must stop them!".
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foul_ol_ron1 day ago
+1
I imagine the converse is also true though. Both governments will lie.
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yosisoy1 day ago
+6
When Israeli soldiers die in Lebanon their names and ranks are published typically within a day (after their families are made aware)
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foul_ol_ron1 day ago
+1
I meant that if your government kills some people, they're likely to assume they're bad guys unless proven otherwise.
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BTsan1 day ago
+8
Wut dude they bombed filled cities of civilians why would you assume the majority of deaths are hezbollah when the indiscriminately strike civilian shit all the time
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Swagastan1 day ago
+43
It’s always the same: Israel bombs ‘X’, unreliable anti-west media immediately says “indescriminate bombing of civilians”. Israel will say who and what they targeted. Weeks later it’s generally fully confirmed Israel bombed who they say they targeted with some amount of collateral civilian deaths (so not indescriminate), and everyone already moves along to the next bombing constantly saying “Israel always lies”.
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Lowfi-Concert1 day ago
+31
Yeah Iran and its proxies don’t differentiate on purpose so that people can argue they are all civilians
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Mission_Scale_8601 day ago
+1
Indiscriminately is the wrong word. Israel strike specific military targets. Of course civilians will be affected in dense areas but it’s not random bombing.
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BTsan1 day ago
+3
Thats cope dude they don’t hold back in civilian areas at all; they practically carpet bombed a major city on Wednesday
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xmuskorx1 day ago
+22
They should demand for illegal Hezbollah to surrender and agree to disarm.
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Niceguy9551 day ago
+3
Is Pakistan also pressuring its new friend Iran to order Hezbollah to stop shelling Israel? Or do they only care about terrorists?
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Ghostkeeper851 day ago
+12
Pakistan is a fake country. Its land was stolen from India
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Consistent-Study-2871 day ago
+7
I mean.. Pakistan does have the means to stop Israel permanently from bombing civilians.
Just threaten to end a civilization as apparently that brings peace.
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mad-data1 day ago
+14
They can stop helping Iran, help Lebanon to disarm Hezbollah as was agreed last year, and there will be no reason for Israel to bomb anyone in Lebanon.
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righteous_sword1 day ago
+4
What do they demand from Lebanon?
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I_Cummand_U1 day ago
-20
The entire world should be willing to call a s**** a s**** a s**** and admit that that Isreal and America are the problem in the middle east.
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HarEr891 day ago
+21
The real problem in the ME is the evil Iranian regime. They support Hezbollah, Houthis, Hamas Iraqi militias. All of them are terrorists and they wouldn't exist without Iranian money, weapons and training.
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Lowfi-Concert1 day ago
+27
Ridiculous comment. Iran is the source of most the issues. The fact that Pakistan is demanding this after calling for the total destruction of Israel earlier today is laughable.
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OpportunityHefty86491 day ago
+4
Israel gets to bomb and murder innocent civilians every single day but god forbid someone hurts their feelings with words! That would be awful wouldn’t it
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Demetre198641 day ago
+40
Lebanon is many things and there will be innocent casualties.
But as a state it's completely failed and I cannot think of any other country in the world that would not invade after 20 years of terrorism via rockets and drones by a group they cannot control...
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Expln1 day ago
+16
Yes israel gets to bomb the entities that exist to destroy them. and innocent civilians get caught in the fire, all of that is on hamas, hezbollah and iran. not on israel. keep crying about it.
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JD0x01 day ago
+6
This is an insane comment holy shit. How uneducated can you be?
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iMissTheOldInternet1 day ago
-7
A view notably not held by people actually in the Middle East.
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hiricinee1 day ago
+18
The Saudis, Israelis, Kuwaitis (idk if thats right,) non Hezbollah Lebanese, Kurds, Turks, Syrians, and UAE all hold the view that Iran is the biggest threat, as well as the citizenry of Iran.
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comeonbjxgo1 day ago
-20
The real threat are Lebanon and Iran. The rest of the Middle East accept and embrace Israel hegemony.
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iMissTheOldInternet1 day ago
+21
To be fair, it’s Hezbollah and Iran. Lebanon is just an unfortunate base of operations from which those two operate. If you could get rid of the IRGC, Lebanon could probably finally end its quasi-permanent Civil War.
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rgeebee1 day ago
+20
That's exactly it. If Hezbollah disappeared overnight there would be immediate long term peace with Lebanon.
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Unicorn_Colombo1 day ago
+1
Pakistan is unhappy, because the truce they mediated between Iran and USA was broken, after Israel bombarded Hezbollah in Lebanon. So now that the truce was broken, Iran attacked Kuwait and Saudis, although the attacks happened right after the truce before Israeli ones.
This all made Japan unhappy, so they send their drone experts to Ukraine, which prompted Russia to call Japanese ambassador.
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DoubleLL131 day ago
+1
The US made Pakistan the adult in the room by having them broker negotiations with Iran. Good luck with that!
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mindful-hedonism1 day ago
The sheer f****** hubris xD
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qu_o1 day ago
-1
Israel is not striking Lebanon.
It is striking Iranian proxy Hezbollah to prevent it from taking over Lebanon.
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b0sanac1 day ago
+1
So.. "hezbollah" = civilians and targets like residential buildings?
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Standard-Contest-9491 day ago
+2
Serious both countries can pound sand. Let’s start over.
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Logical-Bookkeeper771 day ago
+1
Is Pakistan part of the negotiations or in the agreement?
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xavandetjer1 day ago
+1
They're hosting the ceasefire negotiations.
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JeroJeroMohenjoDaro1 day ago
+1
Weird timeline when another shitty country told another shitty country to back down.
Well....maybe this time the heat reaches their wallet, now suddenly they seem to care about other countries.
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SilverFoxJp1 day ago
+1
what does pakistan intend to do if israel doesnt stop? which it wont.
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W313371 day ago
-26
Israel loves to have the USA waging war for them. Why would they listen.
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BetSquare71901 day ago
+38
The US aren't involved in Lebanon.
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HarEr891 day ago
+17
Psst, don't tell him ;)
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IceMysterious30561 day ago
-15
Most people killed in Gaza are civilians so this is another Gaza if Israel can't be stopped.
The figure is at 70k+ under 2 1/2 yrs might be even higher idk.
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