I mean, yeah. There’s a reason why Pakistan was so desperate for a ceasefire and for the resumption of regular economic activity.
For a (relatively) uninvolved country, Pakistan has some of the highest stakes attached to this conflict and has the most to lose if it drags on.
I think the world tends to underestimate just how economically fragile Pakistan is. It is a heavily indebted developing country with low levels of resource utilisation. It is very dependent on foreign goodwill from countries like Saudi Arabia, the UAE, and China.
Pakistan, on a good day, is a very vulnerable state. Unfortunately for everyone around it, it also happens to have nuclear weapons.
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midwestesquire4 days ago
+124
Maybe Pakistan should have worked as hard on their economy as they did in exporting terrorism to India and the globe?
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ApprehensiveCrab24342 days ago
+5
Nah too much work, just a few more terror attacks on India ought to fix it though. /S
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Biggly_stpid3 days ago
+19
Lol, lmao even:
https://data.worldbank.org/?locations=PK-IN-BD-LK-NP-AF
GDP per capita (current US$)
Most recent value
(2024)
Pakistan
1,478.8
India
2,694.7
Bangladesh
2,593.4
Sri Lanka
4,515.6(Sri Lanka mogging us all tbh, great work)
Nepal
1,447.3
Afghanistan
413.8
For rest, you can thank your govt. We didn’t kill Baloch, that’s all your handy work. We didn’t change Taliban.. f****** Taliban is ready to burry the hatched with India before Pak, maybe being your neighbour is that bad of an experience. I say, play stupid games win stupid prizes
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No-Platform94304 days ago
+6
My country do be kinda cooked ;-;
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Calm-Imagination-2524 days ago
+8
Fortunately\* we do have nuclear weapons (we Indians), we aren't the ones threatening nuclear war
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Dark_World_Blues4 days ago
-2
I wouldn't be surprised if UAE or Saudia Arabia uses these nuclear weapons on Iran.
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Adept_Writer57094 days ago
+10
Good luck with that one
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Song-Historical4 days ago
+13
I don't know why this is framed this way. These are 30 year loans that they would have to pay back end of this year or next year regardless of whatever is happening.
Unless the Gulf Arabs suddenly have a professional fighting army, their actual fighters hate their monarchist regimes and are straight up militants who would be happy to let them get lynched on their flights back from a Riviera. No leadership in Gulf is risking creating a brand new political entity. Pakistan are their mercs, they are exactly what they want. A whole military apparatus on tap for oil and money. The Pakistan military's interests are clear and reliable, the Gulf leaders know what they're getting and have funded it for that reason. They always knew that the US would never put boots on the ground to save their regimes, Pakistan is who the US taps for that in the first place.
But even the Pakistani military are not going to make enemies out of Iran and risk making a third enemy on their border. To enter into a war like that the peninsula Arabs would have to back their entire economy with major long term investments practically sight unseen to bolster Pakistan's economy.
The UAE are not conscripting Emiratis any time soon. It would take decades of professional development to make it worth it, and they would still risk giving political capital to a wholly new player and be overthrown with a powerful local military. Right now as it stands most of the important positions in these militaries and governments are held by monarchists and tribes/lineages sympathetic to keeping a system of 'Wasta'/relationships going. No rich gulf Arab wants to live in a system where they're not above the rules keeping their population in check or lose all of the relationships that make their way of life viable.
This is opportunistic reporting meant to pretend this is going to change things about these relationships. It's not. The Gulf Arabs will fold and change direction away from the west to more regional alliances if this keeps going. They relied on the US and Pakistan to do their enforcement and protection for them and a healthy sovereign wealth fund to keep their population happy. The US is cratering their relationship literally, they're half a world away and can afford to fumble something like that. Pakistan is dependent on regional alliances and security. They cannot afford to fumble f*** all.
The Gulf understands if the oil infrastructure disappears they will get swallowed up by revolutions and detractors from the civil government, who may still not like Iran, but they are not dumping their entire relationship with the only military in the region that has some sort of institutional knowledge of their affairs, dependent on their energy and money with nuclear weapons to boot. There are other players but none have sent troops to do crowd control or help them bomb countries they've deemed bad for their interests.
The flight code for Emirates Airlines is literally EK, Emirates to Karachi. A decades long relationship isn't going to vanish over one war. If anything it's because this is an existential crisis that they're even more important now and you are going to see whole peals of support from Pakistani workers and military after the war is over to consolidate this relationship.
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Business_Brief_78994 days ago
+10
The UAE has had conscription since 2014, of all Emiratis once they turn 18
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Song-Historical3 days ago
-1
Into reserves, like Kuwait and Qatar, not regular military duty last I checked. Most political players simply pay the fines/get an exemption, not really a threat. The officers were still largely from Pakistan, Jordan, Oman or Bangladesh, even Yemen until recently. Again apart from Jordan, all of those countries were largely trained by Pakistanis. Bangladesh was literally East Pakistan at one point.
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Business_Brief_78993 days ago
+5
“Into reserves” is underselling it. The program started at 9 months and was extended to 16, and Emirati officers have been increasingly filling senior roles … particularly since the Yemen campaign exposed how dependent the force structure was on foreign cadres. The whole point of post-2014 reform was to fix exactly what you’re describing. Nobody’s claiming the UAE built a self-sufficient military overnight, but characterizing it as a formality where everyone pays fines is outdated. The Presidential Guard and Joint Aviation Command are majority Emirati-led now. The direction of travel matters more than where things stood a decade ago.
Nobody disputes Pakistan’s foundational role, that’s literally my point. The relationship is so deeply embedded in UAE institutional history that the idea of it being discarded is absurd. The training pipeline has diversified since into Jordanians, Americans and Australians, but the institutional DNA is Pakistani.
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Song-Historical3 days ago
+1
I see it, good catch: https://www.arab-reform.net/publication/reintroducing-conscription-in-the-gulf-from-soft-power-to-nation-building/
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