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Imjustmisunderstood Mar 27, 2026 +64

This investigation concluding starvation as the most likely cause of death was done by an Israeli doctor at the request of an Israeli judge. Makes you realize the internal disagreements within the highest levels of Israeli government on how Palestinians should be detained. Those responsible for his death need to be found guilty.

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ForwardHuckleberry26 Mar 27, 2026 +23

Is being honest instead of trying to please the government really a "disagreement"? Seems more like the minimum a judge or a doctor should be, honest professionals.

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DiscipleOfYeshua Mar 27, 2026 -22

Easy to say from over there. I’m sure there are several things you disagree with your government about. What have you done about it, so far?

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ForwardHuckleberry26 Mar 27, 2026 +14

From over where? lol I'm brazilian and I proudly voted for my current government, and will do so again.

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DiscipleOfYeshua Mar 27, 2026 -28

Oh, so you think in your country politicians are 100% pure?

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ForwardHuckleberry26 Mar 27, 2026 +23

LOL what's your argument here? "Palestinians are being tortured and Israel's government is protecting the perpetrators, but someone in your country must have commited a crime someday, so you can't criticize unless you become Batman"?

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DiscipleOfYeshua Mar 28, 2026 -2

You mocked someone for commending someone who did the right thing. Most people prefer self preservation. Face your own blind spot, and you might discover you’ve chosen self-preservation over truth and/or ethics and/or excellence once or twice in life. Maybe more. In my short life, I’ve noticed those who tend to make ethical / sacrificial choices usually aren’t the first to mock others for ethical behaviors, however small. I’ve also noticed the opposite is true. It’s quite simple actually.

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ForwardHuckleberry26 Mar 28, 2026 +2

I didn't mock anyone but you for your stupid arguments. If I said that judges and doctors should be honest professionals it's because I believe that to be true, as their service impacts heavily the lives of a lot of people. THAT's quite simple, and I don't know how you thought I was mocking anyone when I said that.

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DiscipleOfYeshua Mar 28, 2026 +1

I believe it to be true as well; but when in some cases, when those around them are powerful and unethical — it is hard to do. And i commend them when they do. How many church leaders, doctors and judges folded up their ethics and conformed to government orders under Putin? When one of them stands up and risks his or her neck, I salute them. That’s all.

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BarryMcKokiner123 Mar 27, 2026 +9

Hey DiscipleOfYeshua, did you make these same excuses when you learned of Yeshua’s torture and crucifixion at the hands of the Romans and the Sanhedrin?

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DiscipleOfYeshua Mar 28, 2026

No, actually: (1) first I wished it were not so. (2) I had to face the sad fact that — like most of us, scummy humans, I would’ve probably joined the mob, shouting like a crazed idiot for the murder of God’s Son. My state without Him will always be horrid. I desperately need my Doctor. Do you imagine yourself better?

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BarryMcKokiner123 Mar 28, 2026 +2

lol crazy, I know myself. Never in my life would I torture anyone or join in a mob style lynching. I’m sorry you’ve got such a low opinion of yourself, explains why you’re tryna justify violence against others. Keep doing you

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DiscipleOfYeshua Mar 28, 2026 +1

I know of only One who’s righteousness is sufficient; and He is not me, nor you. As for the rest of us, “all our righteousness is as ‘filthy rags’” (as the common English translators like to round it off from the harsher, and accurate original).

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BarryMcKokiner123 Mar 28, 2026 +1

Sounds like you need to surround yourself with nicer people. I know several righteous people who wouldn’t lynch Jesus lol but you do you

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BarryMcKokiner123 Mar 27, 2026 +13

Wrong The judge found that there was in fact no crime that led to his death. No one will be punished or held accountable ‘But I cannot determine based on the findings of the expert report that there is a causal connection between his poor physical condition and his death, and therefore I cannot determine that the death was caused by a crime.’

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noage Mar 27, 2026 +22

The judge found that the boy was starved but that he can't determine if that was the cause of death so there can be no further investigation or criminal prosecution. Basically the opposite of what the title would seem to suggest.

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45nmRFSOI Mar 27, 2026 +10

Ah so totally ok to starve someone as long as they don't die from it

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dhaliman Mar 27, 2026 -10

Israel got a habit of violating the most basic human rights when it comes to Palestinians. I really expect better from them. Here’s another recent incident: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rafah_paramedic_massacre One more: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c98pnzp50nqo

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dhaliman Mar 27, 2026 +6

Why the downvotes? All the links are from trusted western news organisations.

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IdToaster Mar 27, 2026 -1

The BBC did an internal report about antisemitism in its coverage back in the 2000s (see: the Balen report), and whatever was in that report was apparently so damning they spent hundreds of thousands of pounds (of public money, no less) to keep it from being released under the UK's Freedom of Information Act. Wikipedia, the encyclopedia anyone can edit, is not a trusted source for anything. Also several of that page's links are from Al-Jazeera, aka Qatar's propaganda arm.

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dhaliman Mar 27, 2026 +7

Are you suggesting the massacre of the healthcare workers didn't happen or the journalists were not killed? These two incidents have received wide spread coverage.

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IdToaster Mar 27, 2026 +3

I'm not suggesting anything, except that when you said your links were all 'trusted western news organizations' you clearly had no idea what that meant. Al-Jazeera is neither western nor trusted, and Wikipedia is neither trusted nor a news organization.

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FedBySheep Mar 27, 2026

No one is denying those incidents. However, claiming they show a 'habit' is not so reasonable. This war has been going on 2.5 years. If Israel has a 'habit' of such crimes, that would probably involve a lot more.

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LogFar5138 Mar 27, 2026 +8

And that’s the problem. Everyone holds one side to a standard while the other side isn’t. This is what happens when you do that. The side that’s held to a standard doesn’t care.

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dhaliman Mar 27, 2026 -15

The other side has been deemed a terrorist organisation, should the Israelis be deemed the same?

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LogFar5138 Mar 27, 2026

The PA is a terrorist organization? Is that why 157 nations recognize it as a state?

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dhaliman Mar 27, 2026 +6

I thought the other side was Hamas?

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Ornery_Tension3257 Mar 28, 2026 +3

Before he was imprisoned for throwing rocks at a protest, the child was living with his family "in the occupied West Bank town of Silwad". Silwad is north of Jerusalem and far away from the Gaza strip. (I.e. under the nominal political jurisdiction of the PA even tho occupied by the Israelis).

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dhaliman Mar 28, 2026 +1

What are you suggesting? Are you suggesting he was killed for a throwing rocks? Are you suggesting he was killed under the illegal occupation of the Israelis? Tell me?

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ZLUCremisi Mar 28, 2026 +1

Israel has people literally saying that West Bank Palestinians are not innocent. No one there are innocent. Remember 5 Israeli soldier got away for tourture and sexual assualt on camera of a prisoner.

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helloimpaulo Mar 27, 2026 -1

See? This is where the propaganda accidentally fails. The account you're interacting with is one of many that engages in this. However, from time to time, they f*** up and make it clear what they actually think, like now.

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K0TEM Mar 27, 2026 +1

Starved or did he go on a hunger strike? This is a pretty common form of protest for Palestinian prisoners

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AdventurousBase221 Mar 28, 2026 +10

it's also very common for Israelis to mistreat "prisoners". it would surprise no one if it was done intentionally for fun.

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Yog_Sothtoth Mar 27, 2026 -23

It's getting increasingly difficult to differentiate today's Israel to a particular european state during the first half of the 20th century.

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qTp_Meteor Mar 27, 2026 +33

I wonder how many German judges during the holocaust ruled that jews were starved to death? Israel being brought up gives some people brain damage

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BarryMcKokiner123 Mar 27, 2026 +7

Read the article. The judge explicitly states that there is insufficient evidence to support that he was starved to death… despite an autopsy showing evidence severe of malnutrition and scabies. Reading is hard. Do you have brain damage too?

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Yog_Sothtoth Mar 27, 2026 -14

did it happen or not?

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LogFar5138 Mar 27, 2026 +12

Look up Holocaust inversion.

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LogFar5138 Mar 27, 2026 +10

Look up Holocaust inversion you are actively engaging in it.

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Yog_Sothtoth Mar 27, 2026 -4

I did and no, just a bit of evident sarcasm because a democratic nation starved a 17yo to death (and I would be disgusted even if the 17yo was a clone of Hitler) that's all, are we allowed to criticize anything happening there, do you need a permit or something?

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RandomLegend Mar 27, 2026 +15

Considering this is a ruling by a Israeli judge after an Israeli investigation it is actually pretty easy unless you suffer some form of derangement.

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BarryMcKokiner123 Mar 27, 2026 +12

Did you read the article? ‘But I cannot determine based on the findings of the expert report that there is a causal connection between his poor physical condition and his death, and therefore I cannot determine that the death was caused by a crime.’ This Israeli judge’s ruling after an Israeli investigation finds that Israelis actually did not cause his death by starvation/malnutrition. Israel investigates itself and finds it did not commit a crime, despite arresting a Palestinian minor for throwing stones in the West Bank who then died in custody. I’m curious if you consider this some form of derangement too

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failedsatan Mar 27, 2026 +6

not being able to determine that the death was caused by a crime is not the same as saying the kid was not starved or everyone was innocent. the wording and legal meaning matters.

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BarryMcKokiner123 Mar 27, 2026 +3

I swear, no one reads articles before sharing their opinions these days. The wording was very deliberate in that it finds no party guilty in this boy’s death. “Given this state of affairs, the investigation into his death is exhausted." The court case was blocked from further investigation until the media asked for a gag order to be lifted. The case was re-investigated. An autopsy reveals starvation as the most likely cause of death. The court acknowledges that the boy was starved, but there was insufficient evidence, according to this judge, that it was the cause of death. The case is now closed with the verdict being that no crime was committed. That means that there’s no avenue to find anyone guilty in his death. Let’s not give the Israeli court any credit here

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SadSecurity Mar 27, 2026 +9

> you suffer some form of derangement. Almost all pro Palestinians sadly do.

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Yog_Sothtoth Mar 27, 2026 -1

did it happen or not?

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dhaliman Mar 27, 2026 -1

I really don’t understand why the downvotes here. I get downvoted every time I mention a similar sentiment.

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Yog_Sothtoth Mar 27, 2026 +3

My understanding is many aren't able/don't want/aren't allowed to differenciate between the concept of religion and the concept of democratic state. Therefore me criticizing the action of the nation/current administration/whoever is in charge there is me being antisemite. I'm really confused.

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dhaliman Mar 27, 2026 -3

I agree with you. It's the same thing as saying all muslims are terrorists which isn't true. I'm not against the jews at all, I'm sure they are wonderful people. It's the Israelis that I have a problem with because of their horrible actions against mankind. How can a country that enjoys so much privilege stoop so low and commit such horrible crimes?

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Yog_Sothtoth Mar 27, 2026 +6

I'm sure not all israelians are to blame, it's a complicated situation, and should be approached with more nuance than a vs b

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zumera Mar 27, 2026 -2

Monstrous.

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Palestinian teenager was starved in prison before death, judge rules

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