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News & Current Events May 15, 2026 at 8:13 AM

Palestinians Lose More Land After Israel Secretly Approves Record Number Of Settlements In West Bank

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Palestinians Lose More Land After Israel Secretly Approves Record Number Of Settlements In West Bank - Black Star News
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Palestinians Lose More Land After Israel Secretly Approves Record Number Of Settlements In West Bank - Black Star News
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kadaka80 11 hr ago +155
Ah the frontier, were brave settlers move with their wagons and horses in an area that has not been civilised ever before
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Krillin113 10 hr ago +32
If anything America needs to stop Israel from doing it because it makes people realise this is how the US got to where they are
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mcspongeicus 10 hr ago +14
The G word.
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Krillin113 8 hr ago +1
The G-~~sl~~cide
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Aggravating_You3627 8 hr ago +1
Hate to break it to you but every piece of land on this planet has been conquered and lost numerous times throughout history. There are no "good guys". You think the native americans lived in harmony and peace just until the Europeans arrived?
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ThoughtfulAnecdote 8 hr ago +1
They were not genocided for their culture? They did not intentionally kill off and slaughter animals to force other Indigenous groups onto reservations? 🤣 Like what are you talking about? No one said “good” or “bad” but we can be honest and say European colonization- which sought to break Indigenous culture, traditions, language, people- was far worse and far more different than constant exchanges of land. Please don’t be so ahistorical and ignorant
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SatisfactionDry3038 10 hr ago -1
More like tanks and m16s
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mrbuddymcbuddyface 11 hr ago +231
The term is Lebensraum, all fascist governments have used is as justification.
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Imaginary-West-5653 10 hr ago +118
Lebensraum, Manifest Destiny, Greater Israel... same shit. What a f****** vile country is Israel, though, still doing this bullshit in the big 2026; f*** their settlers, f*** their politicians, f*** their army, and f*** anyone who dosn't oppose this insanity.
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Evenstar6132 10 hr ago +26
The idea that time correlates with moral progress is a total myth. We still have pedophiles and tyrants running the world, as it always have been. Why should 2026 be any different?
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Imaginary-West-5653 10 hr ago +10
Yeah, Israel is proving in real time that we learned nothing from history.
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ShimonEngineer55 8 hr ago +1
Along with the [entire region.](https://www.ohchr.org/en/press-releases/2025/08/syria-un-experts-alarmed-attacks-druze-communities-including-sexual-violence)
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Imaginary-West-5653 8 hr ago +1
So I take for granted that you hate deeply what Israel is doing too then, good to know 👍
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enigmaticowl 9 hr ago +1
Even the article that you linked states that that community resides in Northern Israel, not West Bank settlements (or any other disputed or occupied lands); same deal with every other “Lost Tribe” (converted) community that moves to Israel, they almost always live in Israel proper and not settlements. They also underwent formal conversions to Orthodox Judaism, so you can totally dislike Israel and its Right of Return immigration policy (which basically treats conversion as fulfilling a naturalization process), but they are “real Jews” as far as pretty much anybody is concerned.
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Manealendil 10 hr ago +41
I need a Zionist to answer me how you are supposed to resist this in a nonviolent, polite and most importantly anti-antisemitic way.
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Lirael_Gold 9 hr ago +22
"they should just leave or die"
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Abu_Nimr 9 hr ago +1
Zionists don't care. Nonviolent, violent, they'll shoot you and take your land either way. Gazans protested the blockade back in 2018-19 and [over two hundred of them (including 46 children)](https://www.btselem.org/gaza_strip/20210524_whitewash_time) were murdered by the IDF.
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NickoBicko 9 hr ago +1
Zionists operate on the same mental level as ISIS
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WhiteGoldRing 8 hr ago +1
"Zionist" here (by most definitions), you can't.
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timcorin 9 hr ago +1
Sign a peace deal. 
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Manealendil 9 hr ago +1
Notice how I said resist and not surrender to the terrorist holding you family hostage.
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ShimonEngineer55 8 hr ago +1
Zionism ended in 1948 when the state of Israel formed. The goal was for a state and the Zionists got it. In 48’ the people who weren’t Israeli citizens could’ve 1. Accepted the partition plan. 2. Accepted Israeli citizenship. They chose 3. Join the Arab states, go to war and not accept the existence of Israel. So, there was a path when Zionism actually existed, they chose war, and they lost.
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letmetasteyourtearss 8 hr ago +1
So you are saying the Arab states were the ones who started with violence?
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ShimonEngineer55 8 hr ago +1
Yes, [a coalition of Arab states chose to attack Israel 78-years ago.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1948_Arab%E2%80%93Israeli_War)
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virtual_adam 9 hr ago +1
>All 34 of the new settlements are located in Area C, a technical designation established under the Oslo Accords that divided the West Bank into three sections. Area A is technically under Palestinian civil administration and security control; Area B is under Palestinian civil administration but shares security control with Israel; and Area C is under full Israeli control It really is that simple. Yasser Arefat signed an agreement in Norway giving this land to Israel The violent disgusting evil things you see unauthorized Israeli settlers doing like burn Palestinian kids alive is in seas a and b In every two state solution plan ever discussed, area c is not Palestinian You could say - well who gave Yasser Arafat the power to decide what land is Palestinian? And I guess you can say no one has. The right to sign a peace agreement
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Abu_Nimr 8 hr ago +1
No, that is 100% incorrect. The Oslo Accords recognize current de-facto Israeli administration of Area C with the understanding that its status would be part of a permanent settlement. No Palestinian government has ever renounced sovereignty over it, and has constantly maintained that it will be part of a future Palestinian state.
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Hussar223 8 hr ago +1
area C was meant to be gradually transferred to palestinian control. settlements in area C are still considered illegal. "The violent disgusting evil things you see unauthorized Israeli settlers doing like burn Palestinian kids alive is in seas a and b" completely unture as per UN reporting.
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Kurise 11 hr ago +171
Stop being anti-semetic guys. You can't say negative things about Israel.
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runnerup1 11 hr ago +66
Yep. Don’t want to lose my passport for being critical of a genocide!
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ZzBitch 11 hr ago +22
Anti-septic
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Nattekat 10 hr ago +2
You know, it is possible to remain critical of Israel (especially regarding this subject they can rot in hell, there's no excuse), while also acknowledging that growing antisemitism is something that's a genuine issue. Many people are so heavily emotionally involved in this entire conflict that they start really hating everyone with even a remote link to Israel, which includes all Jews. It's getting more and more unsafe to be Jewish nowadays. That being said, I also want to share a genuine "f*** you" to anyone that takes it too far in the other direction, since those people definitely exist too. They are doing great at playing the boy that shouts wolf. Unfortunately that's an issue with pretty much any social issues in existence, morons hijacking sensitive topics and taking it so far that people stop taking it as serious.
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Lirael_Gold 9 hr ago +10
>even a remote link to Israel, which includes all Jews It doesn't though, that's the issue. Israel is not connected to all Jews.
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0thethethe0 9 hr ago +5
I was listening to an interesting piece by an Israeli ex-military intelligence guy who was saying how much Bibi and his cronies' rhetoric, very intentionally, is always trying to make Israel and Judaism synonymous.
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Lirael_Gold 9 hr ago
Correct, it's the same way they've tried to conflate "anti-semitism" and "anti-zionism", along with how they've tried to redefine what "[zionism](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revisionist_Zionism)" actually means. Labour Zionists (Haganah, Palmach) actually won the civil war, but Revisionists (Irgun, Lehi) are still mad about it because they can't claim the glory.
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ShimonEngineer55 8 hr ago +1
Israel as a state is a secular democracy -> therefore it is not synonymous with Judaism.
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0thethethe0 8 hr ago +1
Yes the point was they are trying to change that, at least in people's minds, by constantly linking the two.
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Pyriel 10 hr ago +6
This is a fair comment, especially if you acknowledge that the growth of antisemitism is significantly caused by Israels actions. I'm not in anyway justifying that. Just pointing it out.
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user12Xcg 10 hr ago +2
You are correct. Israeli Jewish people put all Jews over a barrel and we all look bad.
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user12Xcg 10 hr ago -2
Israeli Jewish people can rot in hell, they want to be assholes just to be assholes. Killing children in food lines, no excuse.
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ShimonEngineer55 8 hr ago +1
Of course you don’t mention the 20% of the population that isn’t Jewish, which is a double standard. Also the demonization here aligns with antisemitism. These are [2 of the 3 D’s of antisemitism.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Ds_of_antisemitism)
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user12Xcg 8 hr ago +1
I'm an American Russian Jew. Lol I can be critical of my own people. Lol f*** off
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scr33ner 8 hr ago +1
Big difference between NOT being a zionist and being antisemitism. How would you feel if settlers showed up at your family’s ancestral grave, makes YOU exhume your dead father’s remains for them to build a house on said graveyard?
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SirLadthe1st 9 hr ago +19
And the world CANT do anything about it because israel openly states that it's just going to nuke everyone if it feels threatened. Don't forget though, Iran is too insane to have a nuke!
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ShimonEngineer55 8 hr ago +1
Nigeria is openly committing a genocide against Christian’s along with the RSF in Sudan -> the world does nothing about it -> they do not have nukes -> Iran and the entire region on the flip side are openly attacking Israel -> therefore both of your premises are false since the world is doing *something about it* with Israel and the world is doing nothing about non-nuclear nations that are actually committing genocides.
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RottenPingu1 10 hr ago +31
Nice to the accounts from Tel Aviv join in on the discussion. Going to report people for hate speech again?
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The-Titan-Atlas 8 hr ago +1
I got banned from world news for pointing out the fact that the talmud says Jesus is burning in feces lol. Just replying to someone else who claimed someone doesnt know what the Talmud actually says. Well I do 🤣
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RottenPingu1 10 hr ago +19
That didn't take long. Too funny.
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Catch_ME 10 hr ago +7
This guy is trolling the entire post
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Blubbolo 10 hr ago +31
"we'll sanction only the violent settlers" - the EU. Can we sanction Israel as a whole already?
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BrownSugarBare 10 hr ago +11
Colonizing terrorists is what they actually are. Need to call them properly. 
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Blubbolo 10 hr ago +1
Inbreed terrorist works too for me, but that was what the EU commission called them.
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ShimonEngineer55 8 hr ago +1
We found the antisemite.
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evelyn_bartmoss 11 hr ago +37
It can’t be a “settlement” when it’s being illegally built on the land of another country. Israel, like the US, is a nothing but an imperialist a****** with the maturity of a school yard bully. It being a nuclear power puts both its neighbours and the world at risk.
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Weaselburg 9 hr ago +3
>It can’t be a “settlement” when it’s being illegally built on the land of another country. Settlement is definitely the correct word. A settlement that is illegally built on the land of another country is... an illegal settlement. Settlement itself is a neutral term with no moral bearing.
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evelyn_bartmoss 9 hr ago +3
You cant “settle” a land that’s already somebody else’s. I think the term you looking for is “colonisation”.
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ShimonEngineer55 8 hr ago +1
The land is in area C which the PLO agreed would be Israeli controlled. Even if we don’t accept that under *Uti Possidetis Juris* the land belongs to Israel and Jordan simply illegally occupied it from 1948-1967. Therefore it is not colonization.
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Hussar223 8 hr ago +1
the term is ethnic cleansing
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TheLandOfConfusion 9 hr ago +1
Why not?
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evelyn_bartmoss 9 hr ago +1
… Because it’s already Palestinian land? And the Israeli “settlements” have already been declared illegal by the ICC, based on accepted international law? I don’t see how it’s so hard to comprehend that you can’t just *annex someone* and expect everything to be fine.
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TheLandOfConfusion 8 hr ago +1
I never said any of that I just asked why you think the word “settle” cannot possibly be used when there is no such restriction in the definition
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ShimonEngineer55 8 hr ago +1
It’s being built on the land of Israel which is the only country there -> therefore it is not a settlement.
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texo112 10 hr ago -16
Israel has never claimed to be nuclear country. Although they haven't denied it either.
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YouHaveAWomansMouth 9 hr ago +7
I think someone in the Knesset ran their mouth a bit too hard and accidentally let the cat out of the bag a few years back. They're not officially one, though, no.
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Ghaelmash 9 hr ago +1
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Ghaelmash 10 hr ago +6
Didn’t they want to nuke gaza a couple of years ago?
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TomTomXD1234 10 hr ago +13
This is strsight up what americans did to the natives...Israel learned from the best
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crewserbattle 10 hr ago +11
And what the English did to the natives, and the Spanish, and the French, and the Portuguese, and the Japanese, and the Chinese, and the Koreans, and the Canadians, and the Australians...imperialism is hardly a new concept.
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Killsheets 10 hr ago +1
Surprise, international law is basically toilet paper when good old might backs you just as the ancient empires did.
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user12Xcg 10 hr ago +7
Israeli Jewish people are the lowest forms of humans. Land grabbers, killers and rapist.
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roderickli 11 hr ago +4
Russia = Israel invaded ukraine = palestine for land
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Burro94 11 hr ago -85
Not at all the same thing. The current war started with Israel getting invaded by Hamas.
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Anandya 10 hr ago +32
The war didn't start in 2024.
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Burro94 10 hr ago -27
No, it started when the Jews accepted the partition and the Arabs declared a genocidal war and lost it.
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Anandya 10 hr ago +16
So we gave Jewish people a vote on a land that wasn't their homes and didn't offer that same vote to the Arabs... The UK literally sent Europeans Jewish people there, gave them a homeland, armed them and didn't ask if the people there wanted to give up their homes. All the White people voted and everyone agreed that Native Americans can't own land. Can't see why this is a problem! They also voted that Black people should be slaves and not be considered equal to a white person. Now we can't put Israel back in the bottle. The crime of partition was committed. Israel invaded the West Bank in the 1960s. What do you think the people in the West Bank should have. Should they have full Israeli Citizenship since they live on that land that Israel occupies. Or should Israel give that land back to them and remove all the ethnic cleansers from it and punish people involved in this crime against humanity? Or do we agree that a Palestinian can never be considered fully human and that they should just agree to be second class. Do you agree with the fall of the South African Apartheid?
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Burro94 10 hr ago -13
The land was conquered by the British from the Ottomans. The vote was at the UN, not a vote by the Jews whatever that means. It never ceases to amaze me how people have such strong feelings about the matter but don't even have the basic facts.
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Anandya 10 hr ago +14
I have been to your apartheid. In fact Israel has unfortunately used safety precautions we worked on to purposefully target aid workers in the region. The UN voted to give Jews from Europe a Home land at the cost of Palestinians? I note how none of the actual perpetrators of the Holocaust had to give land to Jewish people. I note how none of the White Nations of Europe had to give land. To recap. The UN Vote was all the Western and mostly White Powers forcing Palestinians to pay the price for the Holocaust. And we aren't talking about the formation of Israel. That can't be undone. It's moving FORWARD from that. You still didn't answer my questions while I have answered yours. Do you agree with the fall of the South African Apartheid since it's similar to the situation that Palestinians find themselves in. and Israel invaded the West Bank in the 1960s. What do you think the people in the West Bank should have? Equality or Freedom?
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Lirael_Gold 9 hr ago +2
You're either an Israeli teenager or a paid propaganda account (or both, I guess) Because that's a wild misrepresentation of history post 1946.
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user12Xcg 9 hr ago +1
Nakba. You fool.
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Rmoneysoswag 10 hr ago +18
Get a load of this guy. He thinks all of human history before October 7th is irrelevant to everything.  You are a deeply unserious person.
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LieverRoodDanRechts 10 hr ago +15
Just like WW2 started with the bombing of Dresden, amirite?
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Burro94 10 hr ago -15
No it started when the German Jews tried to kill all the Germans in Germany with the help.of the Jewish states around it. Right?
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matisata 11 hr ago +15
Which has nothing to do with the West Bank
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WorkingMastodon6147 11 hr ago +8
Nah, this has been going on for decades.
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Stubbs94 9 hr ago +3
Israel was killing Palestinians in 2023 before the act of resistance on that day in October.
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roderickli 11 hr ago -7
Both are equally bad.
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STR8BIZNESS 9 hr ago +2
Land grabbers land grabbing smh
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dug99 8 hr ago +1
Israel being complete and utter cunts to the Palestinians? When did this start? /s
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ShimonEngineer55 9 hr ago +1
So it appears that all of the settlements are in places under Israeli control: “*All 34 of the new settlements are located in Area C, a technical designation established under the Oslo Accords that divided the West Bank into three sections. Area A is technically under Palestinian civil administration and security control; Area B is under Palestinian civil administration but shares security control with Israel; and Area C is under full Israeli control.*” This is what the PLO agreed to during Oslo, so they can’t complain. Technically these aren’t even settlements. Under the precedent of *Uti Possidetis Juris*, the land already belongs to Israel and has since 1948 when Jordan illegally occupied יהודה ושומרון. Therefore, everything in this situation is legal and those who don’t like it are free to go to other countries if they want; such as Jordan that stripped them of citizenship.
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Putrid-Cat5368 8 hr ago +1
"those who don’t like it are free to go to other countries" In spanish we have the word "gilipollas" used to define people with your mental aptitudes. Pretty beautiful word that fills your mouth like honey.
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ShimonEngineer55 8 hr ago +1
In English we have a term called the *ad hominem fallacy* that is used to define people with your lack of formal reasoning and evaluation of argument skills.
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Inocent_bystander 9 hr ago -9
The land in question was rejected by the P.A. as a state. And several times before that by previous would be administrators. In 37 (the Peel Commission) again in 47 (the UN Partition plan) in 2000 at Camp David, 2008 the Olmert offer to name a few. Since the Arabs in the area don't want it, what's to become of it ? Why shouldn't the Israeli's who the Arabs gave sole authority over area C in the Oslo Accords develop the land ? Seems to me kinda hypocritical to on the one hand claim its Arab land and on the other reject it as Arab land. Even more so that the final negotiations of the Oslo Accords were forgone after the attacks of the intifada against Israel. Wouldn't it have been a whole lot better to not have attacked Israel and entered into those final negotiations in good faith ? Seems to me these problems are self generated and Israel is just moving forward despite whatever road blocks "others" would like to try and impose on them. Why not give peace a chance ?
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0thethethe0 9 hr ago +7
>whatever road blocks "others" would like to try and impose on them Sadly this made me chuckle. I've worked the West Bank for while. The amount of Israeli checkpoints on roads there this mad, especially as they are solely there to disrupt and f***-up Palestinians daily lives. Dehumanise them and treat them like cattle.
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Inocent_bystander 9 hr ago +1
Ah you misunderstood. I meant the various propaganda tools used to sabotage various negotiations with Israeli's, not physical roadblocks. Physical road blocks by the way, which are there as security measures in response to various terrorist acts, which means again they are a direct consequence of the actions of violence against the Judaic people who are merely trying to get by with the 20% of land left to them from the original mandate area.
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0thethethe0 8 hr ago +1
No I totally understood. And no the having people wait for hours for no reason at checkpoints in their own land is 99% just f****** with them.
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Inocent_bystander 8 hr ago +1
Security checkpoints cost everyone time and money, maybe if the various terrorist acts that necessitate them were to stop they wouldn't be so numerous.
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Stubbs94 9 hr ago +6
There can't be peace under occupation. Why not end the occupation first?
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Inocent_bystander 9 hr ago -3
There is no occupation, the P.A. Negotiated away Area C in the Oslo Accords. Israel has complete autonomy in the area where settlements are occurring. Why not end the propaganda first, that way people would realize why things are the way they are in the middle east ?
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StunningRing5465 9 hr ago +1
Israel has completely ignored and violated the Oslo Accords dozens of times, but they get to pretend this specific part is still in force? F*** that  Also the whole point of Area c is that it would be "gradually transferred to Palestinian jurisdiction" - 30+ years and this has never even begun. Settlements in area C are designated as illegal under international law 
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Inocent_bystander 8 hr ago +1
Actually it was the "other" side that violated the Oslo Accords when they kicked off the intifada. Also the whole point of Area C was for security and it was with security in mind that Israel was granted autonomy in administrating the area. Since the P.A. didn't prove itself to be a viable peace partner and didn't negotiate in good faith the final arrangements the two sides have agreed to adhere to the Accords as they stand. Settlements in Area c are 100% legal under the current agreement which supersedes any pretenses of that all illusive international law.
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Stubbs94 9 hr ago +3
You are honestly saying that there is no occupation? Are you f****** high?
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Inocent_bystander 8 hr ago +1
The Oslo Accords grant Israel complete Autonomy in Area C, ergo there can be no occupation since there presence is granted by treaty, indefinitely. It was an occupation prior to the Oslo Accords, but its not under the current agreement.
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Stubbs94 8 hr ago +1
The Oslo Accords mean nothing. The West Bank is occupied. Next you'll say the Golan heights aren't occupied. None of Palestine, Lebanon or Syria belongs to the Jewish supremacist state.
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Inocent_bystander 8 hr ago +1
LOL the Oslo Accords are everything, without them you wouldn't have the P.A. Arafat the egyptian wouldn't have been allowed back from exile. It allowed for an independent Arab security forces in the West Bank and it formed a backbone for future negotiations regarding a three state solution. Without the Oslo Accords the West Bank might have turned out like Gaza.
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nasolodakim 9 hr ago +1
Secretly approves record number yeah because transparency is their thing
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Burro94 11 hr ago -91
Maybe they should get off the maximailst demand that Israel commits suicide and actually negotiated in good faith and they could have a state.
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JoseMinges 11 hr ago +25
No you're right. Now get out of your house, vacate your farmland, ignore the fact you don't own these animals any more and that you have to move to a post apocalyptic bomb-flattened city as some people with guns decided they wanted to live where you do instead. Oh wait, maybe both sides of this coin is bad?
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RocktheNashtah 11 hr ago +19
It’s their land it stays theirs
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Burro94 10 hr ago -27
Why is it their land? By what legal right? The West Bank is nothing but the armistice line from 1949 including the areas the Jordanians managed to take, throwing out thousands of Jews that have lived there for millennia. Strong opinions about a subject you have 0 actual knowledge in.
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hyhmattar 10 hr ago +13
And you think you have knowledge? The country of Palestine existed befoe 1948 when the British decided Israel would be built in another sovereign country. They came in displaced, killed, annexed Palestinians and their land. Read some history that isn't whitewashed c*** you read and then some spew none sense.
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Keylime-19377 10 hr ago -6
Where’s the country of Palestine. Oh the British Mandate of Palestine? Yeah that’s as much of a country as British India.
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Keypenpad 10 hr ago +6
Ignoring that Palestine was a territory under the Ottoman empire, you are very good at this btw but Google does exist.
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hyhmattar 9 hr ago +4
So because White colonialist called it a mandate, that is what it is? Ignoring generation over generation of Palestinian people, their homes, their lands, their farms, their country? Nothing existed there because it was a mandate?
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Lirael_Gold 9 hr ago +3
> throwing out thousands of Jews that have lived there for millennia. (The vast majority of Jews living in Palestine in 1949 were Europeans who had immigrated between 1933 and 1946, but that's uh, a bit annoying for modern Israelis so they don't talk about that)
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RocktheNashtah 10 hr ago +4
It doesn’t matter to me if they were Muslim or Jewish before the European settlers- they were middle eastern first and the land belongs to us not white New Yorkers
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Anandya 10 hr ago +5
That would require the removal of Every Single Illegal Settler and that would mean Israel has to recognise A) That it committed Ethnic Cleansing and B) That means War criminals INCLUDING the people involved in that go to prison. Why are they called Settlers. Not thieves and murderers? Because Settler implies the land isn't owned by anyone. That these brave pioneers are forging into the wilderness and creating settlements. Not harassing Palestinians and killing and stealing from them. The definition of that is "murderer" and "thief". These are Robbers and Murderers. Not Settlers. It is just that in Israel? You can murder second class citizens. It's an apartheid state. No different to when the USA murdered black people like this. And reminder. Israel invaded the West Bank. Hell. Most Palestinians there are Israeli taxpayers. So they are Israeli taxpayers who have different and "worse" rules applied to them, who don't have freedom of movement and are actively and overtly discriminated against. That's an apartheid state. These are ghettoes. I get it. You can cow white people into submission with that "nazi" stuff but it's interesting how the biggest critics of the Palestinian apartheid are Irish and South African. I assume you disagree with South African equality? That you think that the Blacks and Indians need to get back to their fences?
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dr-Funk_Eye 10 hr ago -3
No such thing as ethnic cleansing it is a frase used by media so they don't have to say the big Genocide.
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Anandya 10 hr ago
No. There is. There's a clear and different concept of the word. If I force all the Norwegians out of their homes and replace them with Swedish people then that is ethnic cleansing. If I KILL all the Norwegians to do that then that's genocide. Now the bar for genocide is HIGH. Israel by dint of being a Jewish state actively polices the term strictly in light of the Holocaust. The Holocaust didn't start with genocide, it started with Ethnic Cleansing. It started with deportation and seizure of property. Jews who left were encouraged to leave. Genocide is defined by murder, torture, destruction and denial of food, water and medicine. It's often associated with forced birth control and removal of children or targetting of children in particular. Now the reason we can't make a genocide claim stick is that Israel's killings are random and indiscriminate but not at the scale at which a genocide can be claimed. But the purpose is to force Palestinians from their native home because the fundamental problem is that Israel promotes that "all Arabs are the same" and so a Palestinian from Jenin or Bethlehem is no different to someone from Oman". You see this in the USA as well since Americans can't differentiate between Muslims and so treat all Muslims as the same culture which is amusing since an Indonesia and an Arab are wildly different despite the lion's share of Muslims looking like Indonesians and Indians and "NOT" Arabs. Basically? All Genocide is Ethnic Cleansing, not all Ethnic Cleansing is Genocide. All Ponies are Horses, All Horses are not Ponies. The purpose of Israel's behaviour in the West Bank is to prevent the formation of a Palestinian state. They do this by forcing Palestinians from prime land and damaging the Palestinian economy forcing it to not be feasible as an independent state. In addition it creates a powder keg of anger where any opposition to the harassment can be labelled as terrorism and allows Israel to operate a draconian apartheid. [https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/13/world/video/palestinian-teen-killed-west-bank-settler-attack-israel-digvid-vrtc](https://edition.cnn.com/2026/05/13/world/video/palestinian-teen-killed-west-bank-settler-attack-israel-digvid-vrtc) I guarantee you that not one settler involved in this act of terrorism will even go to trial let alone face the death penalty for it. This is ethnic cleansing. This is a pogrom. This is an apartheid state.
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dr-Funk_Eye 9 hr ago +1
Genocide has a legal definition ethnic cleansing does not. Here is how Genocide is defined:          (a) Killing members of the group;    (b) Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;     (c) Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;      (d) Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;      (e) Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group. — Convention on the Prevention and Punishment of the Crime of Genocide, Article 2[9] The term 'ethnic cleansing' is used as a euphemism for genocide despite it having no legal status.  The media started to use ethnic cleansing  in the Balkan wars so avoid using Genocide. Israel is in deed an aapartheid state. It is a genocidal apartheid state.  We should not be washing the crimes by using euphemism. 
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Anandya 9 hr ago -1
It's not a euphemism. The scale isn't sufficient to make a genocide accusation stick and strategically arguing Genocide with Israel doesn't work because they use the Holocaust to hide their actions. Strategic usage of language is vital in criticism of Israel. It's why pro-Israeli voices don't talk to South Africans, Indians or Irish critics. Because they have all endured apartheid and partition. The high ground is eroded because you can't argue about fences and apartheid and starvation and "freedom" with people who endured the same.
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dr-Funk_Eye 8 hr ago +1
Scale has nothing to do with it, ethnic cleansing has no legal definition. You are not accusing them of a crime by using it. The crime is Genocide and they are using apartheid, starvation, IOF and terrorist that they call settlers to comit the genocide.  Denmark was doing a Genocide in Greenland with out killing the people there.  We should not be giving a d******* of the crime by not calling it what it is a GENOCIDE.
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Keypenpad 11 hr ago +13
Israel has no right to exist, it is a western colonial project that has no business in the region. If china started a colony in your backyard you would probably want them gone too.
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user12Xcg 9 hr ago +3
A social experiment gone bad.
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Burro94 11 hr ago -20
Bullshit, Israel is a decolonisation project that peeled off several layers of colonists to restore it to it's original inhabitants. Saying a nation with thousands of years of history in the region is a colony is both ahistorical and stupid. Jews are not Western, we are a Middle Eastern people and have always been. No amount of lies and wringing hands about bringing back a Palestine that never existed will change that.
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Responsible-Bunch316 10 hr ago +12
Jews have history in the region, but Israel is not a decolonisation project. Specifically because the people being displaced (Palestinians) can trace their lineage back just as far. However the Zionist narrative has painted them all as foreign Arabs who don't belong there in order to make the project sound nicer. The truth is that both groups have a connection to the land, and one shouldn't be allowed to completely subjugate or expel the other.
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Burro94 10 hr ago -2
Most Palestinians are the descendants of the Arabs that came into the area to take advantage of the economic opportunities generated by the Jews. You'll find many, many Palestinians whose surname will tell you where they are from. Lots of people immigrated to the region in the late 199th and early 20th century. The idea that the Palestinians are somehow an ancient people, different from the other Arab populations around them is false. Some of them are the descendants of the original inhabitants but so are the Jews. I agree, both groups have connections to the land but one of those groups refuses to accept this and is willing to fight to the last Palestinian to make the land judenrein.
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Responsible-Bunch316 10 hr ago +6
>I agree, both groups have connections to the land but one of those groups refuses to accept this and is willing to fight to the last Palestinian to make the land judenrein. This narrative basically ignores the last 70 years of Israeli aggression and its effect on the dynamics of the region. Life wasn't perfect for Jews in Palestine before Israel happened, but they were still able to live there in relative peace, which means most Arabised Palestinians had no desire to kill them. Nowadays the only Jews some Palestinians will ever see are brutal, heartless IDF soldiers or bloodthirsty settlers. If Israel didn't treat them with such inhumanity, both groups could have a peaceful future together. Israel just refuses to stop the cruelty even though it's destructive to the peace they claim to want. >different from the other Arab populations around them Are the French not different from the Germans? Are the Spanish not different from the Portuguese?
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Keypenpad 10 hr ago +6
These are lies btw.
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Keypenpad 11 hr ago +10
Speaking of lies... Let's take a DNA test and see who belongs there. Oh right, they aren't allowed in Israel, I wonder why 🤔.
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Keylime-19377 11 hr ago +5
Huh? That’s not even true. Israel does not ban DNA testing. It has strict genetic bioethics laws (since 2000) regulating medical and direct-to-consumer tests to prevent misuse. Ffs this standard in many countries including the U.S. and Canada. Ancestry tests like 23andMe aren’t sold directly, but genetic research, paternity, and ancestry testing happen routinely.. there is literally no ban on Palestinian testing. This is a debunked trope. the DNA testing supports mutual claims. Both Jews and Palestinians have ancient Canaanite ancestry. This is well documented lol
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Keypenpad 11 hr ago +8
So any person living in Israel can buy a genetic test and use it without special permission? Also if it shows they aren't semetic they have no claim on the land correct?
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Keylime-19377 10 hr ago +6
Jesus Christ dude, no nation on Earth assigns land rights by a 23andMe purity score. Genetic studies show all Jewish groups (Ashkenazi, Sephardi, Mizrahi) retain substantial ancient Levantine ancestry, often 40-60%+ Middle Eastern component clustering with other Levantines. https://israelinstitute.nz/2025/12/no-dna-tests-are-not-illegal-in-israel-debunking-a-libel-while-acknowledging-the-real-policy-debate/ https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Health/GeneticInformationLaw.pdf https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC3543766/ Also, Israel does not ban genetic testing or ancestry analysis for its citizens. Literally anyone living there can access it through regulated medical channels. Direct-to-consumer kits like 23andMe are restricted (not sold locally) due to this 2000 Genetic Information Law protecting privacy and requiring licensed labs/medical oversight. This is literally the same law they have in a majority of the EU. Not a conspiracy bro….
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Keypenpad 10 hr ago +8
What a load of horse shit, and I'm not the one making the claim that you can take someones home because of your ancestry that would be you guys. I'm just using your logic.. I figured that was understood. Also if you need to regulate DNA testing to the point of needing a special order to get one then you're hiding something.
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Keylime-19377 10 hr ago +3
The Europeans have this same f****** law. Are the Germans hiding being from Germany because of it? Bad faith, whiny deflection is all you have. DNA Teating isn’t illegal. Your dumbass said it was, and I gave you proof why it wasn’t. Also who’s you guys? I’m a medical student from Canada who has a history degree. No country would dissolve itself over mixed DNA results. I know the truth is shitty and the echo chamber makes you feel high and mighty for those Karma points but man oh man, you guys are totally lost.
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Keypenpad 10 hr ago +5
Sigh...Once again, LOUDER THIS TIME. IM NOT THE ONE CLAIMING THAT YOU GET SPECIAL RIGHTS TO THE LAND BECAUSE OF YOUR ANCESTRY..THATS LITERALLY YOU. Also your lying about Europe have I g the same laws, you can buy a DNA test over the counter in Europe show me where you can don't that In Israel, I'll wait.
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Burro94 10 hr ago +3
I. The name of progressive ideals I demand to know the blood quantum of the Jews to determine if they have a right to live where they live. Do you hear yourself?
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Keypenpad 10 hr ago +10
You are the one claiming they have a right to live there because of their ancestry not me, don't spin this, it's actually embarrassing now.
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Burro94 10 hr ago +2
You should be embarrassed
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dex75 11 hr ago +5
Did you even attempt to google this before posting? DNA tests are not illegal in Israel.
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Keypenpad 10 hr ago +5
Did I say it was illegal?
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WorkingMastodon6147 11 hr ago -7
And where do all the Israelis go?
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Responsible-Bunch316 10 hr ago +9
Where will the Palestinians go?
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WorkingMastodon6147 10 hr ago -6
Nowhere, they'll stay in Gaza and the West Bank just as the 1967 borders stated with no Hamas leading them to state suicide and no israel attacking them. And Israelis will stay in Israel, just as recognized by th 1967 borders. You are the one who called Israel a 'project'.
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Keypenpad 10 hr ago +12
Show me Israels accepted borders where they don't continue to steal land in the westbank and Lebanon.
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Responsible-Bunch316 10 hr ago +9
>Nowhere, they'll stay in Gaza and the West Bank just as the 1967 borders The borders that have long since been cut into by the illegal settlements that this thread is about? >no israel attacking them. The same Israel that keeps salivating at the thought of expelling them all? >You are the one who called Israel a 'project'. It was. Some nations originate naturally from the people living in a particular place (Japan, China, England). Others are deliberate colonial projects that necessitate large scale migration (Israel, USA, Liberia). Others are a mix (Jamaica, Brazil, Australia).
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Keylime-19377 10 hr ago -5
Ask Jordan why they won’t take in Palestinians.
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Keypenpad 10 hr ago +13
Why should they?
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StunningRing5465 9 hr ago +1
They’re also brown and Muslim ergo it is somehow their responsibility 
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Keylime-19377 10 hr ago -6
Why should Israelis living there get deported back to a country they’ve never known? See we can play these games and get nowhere. The only solution is a two state solution where Hamas is totally eliminated.
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Keypenpad 10 hr ago +13
Then they can stay in the country called Palestine, it's their choice I guess. The Palestinians f****** welcomed Jews fleeing persecution and they get repaid like this?
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Keylime-19377 10 hr ago -5
Welcomed them? They launched a war after the state was established ffs they deported 800,000 of them from Arab countries. There was no f****** country called Palestine. The British Occupied it. The name Palestine was given by the Romans you idiot
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Keypenpad 10 hr ago +4
Half truths and lies.
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Responsible-Bunch316 10 hr ago +3
If you can recognise that Hamas is bad for a 2SS, but not also recognise that the extremist Israeli government is too, you're disingenuous. Netenyahu has bragged about preventing a 2SS. The likes of Ben Gvir would rather die than see a Palestinian state.
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Keylime-19377 10 hr ago +1
I already talked about my disdain for the Israeli government. In another comment. I hate them. History however, that’s not just politics, it’s more.
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Keypenpad 11 hr ago +2
You don’t need a “mother country” for settler colonialism. The core issue is people moving in, building a new state, and displacing the people already living there. That happened to Palestinians whether the immigrants came from Britain or not. Yes, some land was legally bought, but much was bought from absentee landlords while Palestinian farmers living on it were pushed off. By 1947 Jews owned only a small portion of the land but were given most of it in the UN partition plan, despite Palestinians being the majority population. And the 1948 war didn’t start with Arab armies invading out of nowhere. Large numbers of Palestinians had already been displaced before neighboring countries entered the war. Winning wars and getting UN recognition explains how Israel survived as a state, but it doesn’t erase how Palestinians lost their homes and land.
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nauett 11 hr ago +10
Talk about negotiating in good faith when Israel funded and supported hamas in order to undermine and sideline moderate political Palestinian voices who they actually would have been under pressure to have had to make concessions to
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Burro94 10 hr ago -8
Israel didn't fund Hamas, it allowed Qatari money in hoping to buy peace.
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webesy 11 hr ago +1
I don’t disagree but Gaza is basically a parking lot right now so maybe a bit of punching down by the Israelis
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GiladM 10 hr ago -15
They start a war. Die. Lose land. Again and agian. Peace is the only option.
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Shot-Lemon7365 10 hr ago -30
More lies. What is happening is that illegal Arab construction is being removed.
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Foggyshreds 10 hr ago +12
Not this Nazi again. Pipe down with the hasbara https://www.timesofisrael.com/government-formally-approves-34-new-settlements-as-it-acts-to-deepen-hold-on-west-bank/?utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email
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