...why am i afraid they are going to be deployed in the Middle East?
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Kinmuan1 day ago
+379
The word on the street is that this is due to our massive funding crisis the Army has, with a lot of things being slashed in the last two weeks.
However, Trump and Pete have also discussed, in the last two weeks, pulling troops from Europe, but **specifically Germany**. Pulling them from Poland, whose government has been inticing us to put more troops there, seems **super weird**.
I don't know what's worse - Pete doing this because 'f*** Europe', or the Army being so out of money they **have** to cancel.
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angryjukebox1 day ago
+125
How the f*** is there a funding crisis when the US military is given a trillion dollars a year? How is that not enough?
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SwissChzMcGeez1 day ago
+71
Blatant corruption and mismanagement.
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Perculsion1 day ago
+18
Hadn't heard of a funding crisis but I assume the army is last in line when money is handed out. Shiny new toys like impossible missile defence, space force, AI stuff, several 6th gen fighter programs, BS for the navy instead of what they need/want and the graft involved with it could eat up a lot of funding. Then there's the military 'special operations' that have likely been much more expensive than claimed
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Traditional_Day_973714 hr ago
+3
Yeah this admin has been doing so many flashy money pit projects that sound cool (The golden dome, space force, Trump class battleships, etc) along with our new forever war in the middle east that it would not remotely surprise me if they were dipping into the buckets for mundane day to day funding of the military.
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WoolooOfWallStreet1 day ago
+49
Yeah, when was the last time the Army had a funding crisis?
Because I cannot remember
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bedrooms-ds1 day ago
+19
Media is reporting the US used so much of their supplies that WH thinks it's quite painful to defend Taiwan from now on, like for a decade at least. Even with money they can't re-supply missiles for the US.
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TyrannasaurusGitRekt1 day ago
+3
A 3-month "expedition" (illegal war) in the Middle East led by the stupidest and most incompetent leaders imaginable might account for quite a bit of that
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EmphasisFrosty309322 hr ago
+3
The fat kiddie f***** in chief ran out of $$ for his ballroom before placing a brick.
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Reality-Umbulical1 day ago
+102
It's economic, they said a few days ago Poland could replace Germany for forward troops so this seems related to the massive black hole in funding
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Kinmuan1 day ago
+93
>so this seems related to the massive black hole in funding
Yeah, and if we're this broke **midway through the fiscal**, where the f*** did that Trillion go?
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Mr_Banana_Longboat1 day ago
+69
Iran blew it up… nobody’s talking about it, but they blew up way more than advertised. It was a lot of… necessary…. Shit
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Wolfram_And_Hart1 day ago
+18
It blew up exactly as the people Trump fired told him it would.
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Mr_Banana_Longboat1 day ago
+15
It’s even funnier because it’s not a congressionally approved war, so there’s no bump in spending to do war.
So it’s a country at war getting maybe %10 more funding for an increase to “discretionary spending” on the last fiscal budget approval that everyone already hated. This is one of the reasons you need congress to go to war. You need a wartime budget.
Now they’re in “EBT doesn’t cover that” mode
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JoeHooversWhiteness1 day ago
+29
Interesting the best funded military can’t even deploy due to budget issues. Time to start trolling recruiters, do they know Trump thinks they are stupid and losers?
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kombiwombi1 day ago
+18
Not just funding. There's no air defence, no drone defence, that's all in the Middle East. There will be saner heads in the US Army saying 'thank Christ' as they seek to rebuild equipment stocks and alter doctrine before a peer encounter. Poland is currently the armoury of Europe, and a big target for Putin.
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thatoneotherguy421 day ago
+1
Outside of nukes what exactly do you think Russia could mobilize against Poland?
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kombiwombi1 day ago
+4
To date they have used drones, sabotage teams and paid people who didn't necessarily know it was Russia paying them. Russia has used assassination in some other European countries.
It's called "hybrid warfare".
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moreobviousthings1 day ago
+8
I cannot imagine that the administration cares about over-spending.
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Randomfactoid421 day ago
+20
Don’t forget, Pete has a massive hatred for the Army. He blames the Army for his career ending so quickly, and on top of that he is afraid the Secretary of the Army wants his job.
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Wonderful-Smoke8431 day ago
+22
This is funny cause a couple months ago Petey sure was spending a lot of money on lobster to use up the budget.
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Hellstorm9011 day ago
+13
He started a war in Iran to distract from Epstein and he released part of the Epstein Files to distract from the fact he attacked Venezuela and straight up kidnapped its president which in turn was done to distract from the fact ICE was murdering people in broad daylight on the streets so if we follow the natural order of business Trump needs these troops to invade Mexico with
13
robustofilth1 day ago
+11
America is broke
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whatproblems1 day ago
+6
funding crisis…. time for another ballroom makeover
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NetZeroSun1 day ago
+23
Or Cuba, Canada, Greenland, streets of US…
They don’t call themselves department of war and a 1.5 trillion budget to look cool.
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Daeadin1 day ago
+10
Nah, think closer, like the United States
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Aeschylus1011 day ago
+33
Either deployment to middle east or a "f*** you" from Trump and Kegsbreath to Europe for not being "more willing to support" them in Iran.
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avacadosaurus1 day ago
+7
I think they expect Russia to invade Poland
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hagenissen9991 day ago
+17
There are so many things that are really f****** stupid about that, on so many levels, that I can certainly believe Hegseth would think that.
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avacadosaurus1 day ago
+2
Russia just passed a law that will allow Putin to invade foreign countries.
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hagenissen9991 day ago
+17
And so?
They don't have anything to invade with.
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avacadosaurus1 day ago
-19
Oh are you an expert on Russian assets and inventory?
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hagenissen9991 day ago
+16
You don't think getting pushed back on every offensive move they've made in Ukraine for the last 4 months could be a clue?
If there were any significant buildup of Russian forces anywhere, we'd know about it. Armies can't hide in 2026.
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egnappah1 day ago
+6
Are you okay?
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Tuesday_6PM1 day ago
+7
That’s meaningless. He invaded Ukraine 12 years ago, what difference does this law make?
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Ok-Youth-1601 day ago
+5
Yeah, no. Russia can't even invade Ukraine. And would have to take all of Ukraine before it could reach Poland. And Poland alone is a challenge. But they'd be fully supported by the EU and somewhat supported by NATO (who knows at this point).
It'd be a disaster for Russia. Probably the end of Putin.
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Bullyoncube1 day ago
+2
The Baltics first, but yeah. This is greenlight to Putin.
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Birdman3301 day ago
+1217
You know it’s easier to understand the entire administration when you accept that everything he does is for Putin and he’s compromised.
1217
TheCrassDragon1 day ago
+414
Putin OR Bibi. He probably doesn't even remember the blackmail at this point and just thinks these things are his idea after a few minutes.
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ayayadae1 day ago
+81
porque no los dos?
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non_Beneficial-Wind1 day ago
+26
2 hands, 1 ass
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Alarming_Comedian8461 day ago
+9
Ah, goatse
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willclerkforfood1 day ago
+3
With the age of the three of them, it’s more of a lemon party
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Individual_Wasabi_101 day ago
+2
No cups
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MrBrawn1 day ago
+15
Highest bidder really.
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TheCrassDragon1 day ago
+6
Lot of that going on as well yeah. F****** tired of this madness.
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FistfullofFucks1 day ago
+8
It’s like ***Inception*** but instead of dreams it’s dementia
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pzvaldes1 day ago
+6
>Putin or Bibi
or anyone who pays the bribe
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kingtacticool1 day ago
+86
Hard agree.
I was dumbfounded every day until I starting thinking about what someone would do if they truly wanted to destroy the American Empire from within. Then *everything* made sense.
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IamTheEndOfReddit1 day ago
+24
This just came up in my anime lol, sentenced to be a hero. It amazes me how everyone just forgets about Russia-gate and then they are surprised by Trump. He’s been very consistent in grifting and destroying America, those are like the only things he does. Even Epstein, a kompromat enterprise, is not often connected to Russia. They use the same playbook, even if for a different coach, which I doubt
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Nanny04161 day ago
+6
Project 2025...
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globeglobeglobe1 day ago
+1
Don’t think he is literally controlled by Putin, but everything he’s doing now really does feel like poetic justice for the American hubris that followed the collapse of the Soviet Union.
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turb0_encapsulator1 day ago
+36
if Trump hadn't invaded Iran, Russia would probably be spiraling towards insolvency right now.
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johnis121 day ago
+23
Seem's like they're well on their way, just delaying the inevitable what with there being some talks that Putin is getting Paranoid that he might get assassinated after the major fuckup with dealing with Ukraine!. Keep up the pressure Ukraine!
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turb0_encapsulator1 day ago
+15
just imagine if Trump hadn't pulled this stupid Iran war out of his ass though. Russia might have already fallen. It would be a huge victory for Ukraine and all of Europe.
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Ok-Youth-1601 day ago
+6
And Russia is literally Iran's ally against the US.Russia is supporting them with intelligence and weapons.
Sorry, how's it called when you are siding with America's enemies?
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inquisitive_guy_0_11 day ago
+10
It's the truth. It really is the only lense that all of his bullshit actually makes any kind of sense under. And the evidence to support it is voluminous.
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dontrike1 day ago
+4
That's been my understanding about Trump for the last decade, it's a shame that so many people seem to believe that he's fighting against Russia and Putin. It's also a shame that so many people are too apathetic to actually vote against that sort of thing.
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ArugulaElectronic4781 day ago
+3
Add on to that the fact that he’s incredibly dumb and inept.
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Bullyoncube1 day ago
+3
There is no other explanation.
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still_m0bil31 day ago
+1
His actions have actually put huge hurt on putin recently. While I kinda agree in some ways, he is also clearly not.
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MentalSky_1 day ago
+178
Ok I guess. This only weakens America
American presence in Europe is not a deterrent to Russia. Europe has nukes. American presence is Europe allows them to maintain their hegemony.
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VariationDry1 day ago
+66
Ain't nobody accusing Americans of being smart.
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Phyrexian_Archlegion1 day ago
+16
Mango Unchained has been directed, by his handler in Moscow, to purposely weaken NATO’s eastern flank so when Russia attacks the balkans, the U.S. can fain ignorance while they look the other way and betray the commitments they took to defend Europe.
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CrabAppleGateKeeper1 day ago
+15
So you think the war is going so well in Ukraine for Russia that that they’re gunna take on NATO simultaneously as well? Lmfao
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Commandant231 day ago
+7
Their ability to succeed has scarcely factored into any of Russia's decision making over the past 4 years. Like Trump, Putin is surrounded by yes-men and cronies who feed into his delusions of grandeur.
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Four_beastlings1 day ago
+7
Did you mean the Baltics? Everybody and their mom has troops stationed there; they are covered by the EU mutual defense clause, which is more firmly worded than NATO.
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hagenissen9991 day ago
+6
Russia attacking the Balkans? Did you even look at a f****** map?
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SKULL11381 day ago
+28
Yup, it projects their power across the Globe and allows them to have a massive standing military in non-war time.
Trump and his cronies don’t understand that. They also forget that every foreign war the US has been in since WW2 was their own doing, or decision to get involved.
America are not and have never been fighting Europe’s wars. They entered WW2 because they were attacked and even then only declared war on Japan until Hitler took the decision out their hands.
One could say they got dragged into the Great War but everyone got dragged into that War without much intent to begin one.
America makes billions in military manufacturing which they then use across the globe and sell their previous gen to allies.
Now they’re basically forcing Europe into their own arms manufacture which will hurt the bottom line eventually.
He’s a lunatic. NATO was the most stable defensive coalition we’ve had in modern history, and strong enough to deter any other Super Power. All Trump has done is break that strength into two separate weaker entities.
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letsbesupernice1 day ago
-4
“Never been fighting wars” in Europe? Thats rude to the thousands of Americans who died in Europe…fighting wars. Don’t get me wrong I agree with most of your post but dang that just seemed a little harsh and incorrect.
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SKULL11381 day ago
+3
Then you’ve misunderstood me. Thousands of Americans died fighting in Europe. What I said is that it wasn’t a European war they were fighting at that point, but their own war they never started and were dragged into by Japan, not the other allied nations.
I went through the timeline, and causes. Which is not what Americans mean when they complain about Americans fighting European Wars. America tried to stay out, Japan said no.
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ultralane1 day ago
-15
I dont think Germany attacked the us. I know there were German but I always felt sus about that declaration. We needed to go to war with Germany, but I never felt that germany attacked the us.
-15
SKULL11381 day ago
+16
They didn’t, because they were completely unable to do so (the mainland)
They absolutely did sink several US vessels that were escorting merchant ships to Britain. But even that wasn’t enough because politically America didn’t want to be involved.
After Pearl Harbor, America were at war with only Japan and then Hitler backing his partner, declared war on America and took the decision out of their hands.
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ultralane1 day ago
-4
The merchant ships were delivering war supplies and the politicians knew they would get targeted. I dont really view that as an attack on the us but rather the British, and her allies.
Even if (didnt fact check) germany declared war, they didnt have the ability to attack us so we could just...not do war in Europe.
Im not saying avoiding war was the correct option, just we had an option of not doing war with them.
-4
SKULL11381 day ago
+6
Many Americans felt that the US should simply supply Russia and Britain and concentrate their forces against Japan. FDR and his generals made the wiser choice that Germany was the true threat and they couldn’t be allowed to cement themselves into Europe long term whilst the British Army was stuck at home and forced to engage in Africa.
Hitler would have always gone after the US eventually because it was a nation of mixed immigrants and many types he despised. Plus he saw them as a threat. The nation he didn’t want to go to war with initially was Britain and he kept hoping for an alliance due to necessity by the British.
And like the show The Man in the High Castle depicted, if you had stayed neutral you’d have never invented the atomic bomb first, which also required British raw materials, and Hitler would have had it first. I don’t think he’d have thought twice about using it to wipe out Russia and then eventually turned to the US.
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ultralane1 day ago
-4
I find the flow of logic not believable. Germany's navy would need to be 1000x stronger to compete with the us. They had uboats which was starving britian but they didnt have much decisive advantages that they were able to leverage across the pond let alone the other side of the world. They would need massive tech advancements to beat the us in the seas. Im sure germany was aware of that.
Germany needed to secure oil, eliminate ussr, France, stabilize/strengthen itally, calm down the Balkans.
If the us didnt go to war, and the ussr fell quickly, Id think they wouldn't have much motivation to spend resources to developing the bomb, but if they did, I wouldn't be sure where its first use might be. I think the us would still use the bomb first, even if they arent the first to make it. Id think its not advisable to nuke a city that you intend to use its infrastructure in the future.
The us didnt have any intentions of using Japan infrastructure, that was a byproduct that they really didnt want communism spreading around, along with a few other reasons.
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SKULL11381 day ago
+5
Russia would never have fell quickly. The Germans severely underestimated that opponent who in the end were producing more shells faster than the US were.
Germany navy was weak, and at constant threat from Britains which was big. If Britain fell or surrendered then the Axis would control big sections of the Atlantic and who knows then?
It’s hard to be speculative but all we can do is point to what did happen and when. Japan dragged the US into WW2 because they had zero interest in what was happening in Europe and the US placed sanctions on them which hindered their conquering in Asia.
It was a terrible decision by them but had almost nothing to do with the war in Europe.
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DueGuest6651 day ago
+3
Ramstein in particular is a key node in imperial power projection
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SPX_Gambler1 day ago
That’s traitor speak right there.
Treason like this won’t fly for too much longer.
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Ok-Youth-1601 day ago
There's American soldiers guarding nukes in Germany. If Russia attacks German pilots are supposed to drop those nukes with American authorization.
Those nukes are for the protection of Europe/ Germany.
Everyone else there is for the protection of NATO or for the US. Who's gonna invade Germany? Poland? Luxemburg?
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blankvoidoid1 day ago
+23
Somebody tell the drunk guy that Poland is in Europe
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woo4u19 hr ago
+1
poland is trashed at r/europe almost as often as usa. It’s a fair alliance.
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Ditka851 day ago
+41
Sorry guys, we had the money to bring you home, but we're building this ballroom...
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Ok-Youth-1601 day ago
+6
They also paid one billion to a french company for not building wind turbines.
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jwhennig1 day ago
+8
"Your movement orders are cancelled."
"But we're already here?!?!?"
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LoneWanderer11301 day ago
+3
Glad you're putting this out there Kinny
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fjmerc1 day ago
+2
+1 ..I thought I was on r/army at first
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Hellstorm9011 day ago
+6
That’s fine, by this point we don’t need Trumps army, the Ukrainians are pulling the weight of the entire US military and they aren’t even in NATO yet so imagine how secure we’ll be when they are
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Intrepid_Top_23001 day ago
+7
Whatever Putin wants Trump provides. How can people not see this guy is a traitor of the first order?
The guy is a Russian asset and is destroying our country!
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choco_tacoz1 day ago
+5
Are we more lethal now?
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muFUtaco1 day ago
+2
Well... Reforger is going to be pretty quiet this year.
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Feisty-Barracuda54521 day ago
+3
SecBro doesn't know where the warfighters are? They aren't out to chow, that's for sure
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snowman_M1 day ago
+1
What other exercises are getting canceled?
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grafknives1 day ago
+1
> They were set to replace 3rd Armored Brigade Combat Team, 1st Cavalry Division. The mission is in support of Operation Atlantic Resolve,
But have 3rd ABCT left already? That is not clear from the article.
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TrueHeart0116 hr ago
+1
Why EU fking needs US armies?
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unematti1 day ago
+3
Good. I don't trust them here. They made credible threats against European countries already
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Bishopjones21121 day ago
+1
No matter what this is expensive.
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jw18791 day ago
+1
DAMN… I’d be salty if I missed out on a sweet rotational TDY to… POLAND!! 😣💸
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chiefjayhawk19541 day ago
+1
Good that should safe some money, right?🤔🤔🤔 Then we can afford training... and food for the servicemen. And Israel. 🤮🤮🤮
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