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News & Current Events Apr 9, 2026 at 8:57 AM

Pentagon told Pope's top diplomat to 'take its side' on US military ambitions: report

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Pentagon told Pope's top diplomat to 'take its side' on US military ambitions: report
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Pentagon told Pope's top diplomat to 'take its side' on US military ambitions: report
The Pentagon has said reports of a meeting between senior Department of Defence officials and the Vatican's...

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wowo78 2 days ago +1965
"America has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world," Colby was quoted as saying. "The Catholic Church had better take its side."
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gunsandgardening 2 days ago +1593
Reports further indicate Colby was observed releasing a cackling screech before turning into a cloud of bats.
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ionised 1 day ago +644
bats found this insulting.
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ReachParticular5409 1 day ago +35
Live and Drink, friend
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linfakngiau2k23 1 day ago +55
Is he also twirling his evil mustache while doing this🤦‍♂️ These people are so cartoonly evil
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ultimateknackered 1 day ago +24
Nah, these guys are an embarrassment even to us people who have evil mustaches. -twirls-
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onarainyafternoon 1 day ago +3
The guy's first name is Elbridge. Elbridge Colby. He's got the whole dark wizard package.
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ImLikeReallySmart 2 days ago +274
That's especially chilling when combined with Trump's tweet that says the military is preparing for "our next conquest"
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wowo78 2 days ago +177
I think Greenland or Cuba. But Greenland would be a step with no return.
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AdInfamous6290 1 day ago +110
Yeah probably Cuba, Rubio has been waiting patiently with this whole Iran “excursion” but I think he might literally explode if he doesn’t get to be generalissimo of Cuba soon.
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stevez_86 1 day ago +17
More like El Presidente, like in Tropico. Who will be his Penultimo?! He will have all the US Territories, plus Venezuela and Cuba, might as well have Honduras and some others that would fall in line quickly. It will be treated like one big vassal state. Trump really wants the Gulf of America. They said he needed more territory than Mexico. So he will surround Mexico. As the leader in control of most of the territory El Presidente Rubio will demand the change from the Gulf of Mexico to the Gulf of America.
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Ticrotter_serrer 1 day ago +52
He is a bully he won't. He attack what he think are weak Nations . If he does try to take Groenland he lose .
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AdInfamous6290 1 day ago +40
He considers Denmark a weak nation, which to be fair, it is. He is counting on the rest of NATO to be cowards and seek appeasement, and it’s unclear if NATO really would go to war with the US over Greenland.
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Ticrotter_serrer 1 day ago +35
I as a Canadian, would support NATO and it's friends over the USA. Of course we dont want it to come to that. But the other options would be insane anyway and we are not people who want to be on the wrong side of history.
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Beautiful-Base-8767 1 day ago +14
As an American, I support Nato. He's talking about leaving it, probably to clear the way for Greenland.
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MinorKeyEnjoyer 1 day ago +58
it’s emerged that the Danes were prepared to resist militarily to American attempts to take Greenland by force, even going to the extent of shipping blood bags to treat combat-injured soldiers. i was very surprised by this. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c33ln4mp1p2o?app-referrer=deep-link
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AdInfamous6290 1 day ago +21
Yes, but Denmark alone could not defend an island 50x its size 2,000 miles away from one of the most powerful militaries in the world. They would need help, and a whole lot of it.
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phluidity 1 day ago +20
Denmark, even with NATO help could probably not stop the US from capturing Greenland. But then what? The US military is not at all suited to be an occupying force. It is really bad at that (to be fair, with modern communications and technology it is really hard to effectively be an occupying force against local resistance). So they would have destroyed most/all of their military alliances and gotten control of an island that they have to continue to keep fighting to hold, all for the ability to have a military base on Greenland like the one they have now hassle free.
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dbcanuck 1 day ago +16
it will be a lot easier now that the US has used up its 3 year stockpile of smart weapons in 30 days in an unwinnable war.
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AdInfamous6290 1 day ago +9
Those smart weapons are most useful for targeting heavily defended military installations. The US still has an enormous stockpile of standard ballistic missiles, it’s the interceptors that we’re running low on. Besides, the only military installations in Greenland are already American…
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DumbHotdog 1 day ago +12
That is incorrect. Denmark has several military installations and bases across Greenland. Even then Pituffik, the primary American base, is only manned by about est. 25-35% Americans, with the remaining ~70% being primarily Danes and Greenlanders. This was also why the military base chief distanced herself from Vance’s comments during his visit, as she generally feared the dissatisfaction by the majority of the base personnel.
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MinorKeyEnjoyer 1 day ago +43
of course Denmark would lose a war with the US. but the question is, how would American public opinion wear dead and wounded American soldiers from a war of conquest in Greenland? Trump is operating under the assumption that there would be no fighting. that might well not be the case.
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AdInfamous6290 1 day ago +20
Listen I don’t approve of any of this insanity. 13 of our soldiers died in this stupid Iran war already, and yet no one cares. What would public opinion be if, let’s be generous, 100 American casualties result from Trump invading Greenland? More hand wringing, more denunciations against Trump, more “maybe we should invoke the 25th” and then: “ooooooh boy, he did something else now, let’s completely forget about the last thing and move on to be uselessly angry about this thing.” The de facto apathy towards trump’s foreign policy will not change until… I don’t know at this point, he does a draft maybe?
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MinorKeyEnjoyer 1 day ago +35
Iran is a totally different case to Greenland though. h the American public has had a longstanding antipathy to Iran, and large segments of the US right have been advocating military action against Iran for decades. Iran’s government is open with its “death to America” rhetoric. can’t really say the same about a Western European country that was considered a steadfast ally until about a year ago. Americans dying over Greenland would be an electoral liability if nothing else.
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Acchernar 1 day ago +7
Denmark HAD help, and a whole lot of it. It came out fairly recently that a rather large coalition of European states were prepared to go all-in and take a military confrontation with the US over Greenland if that's what it came to. The US may have forgotten the meaning of the words "friend" and "ally". Europe has not. We're talking countries preparing battalion-level ground formations, which for a place like Greenland is insane (a battalion basically increasing the current population of the island by something like 2%, *each*), as well as significant air and sea assets. Hell, France readied a carrier for deployment. The US could still have taken it, no question about that. But it would have been very, very expensive for them, in resources and in lives. And in global reach since, after all, you don't exactly get to keep the likes of Ramstein AFB if you've attacked and killed German troops defending an allied nation.
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Wutras 1 day ago +3
That's why several European nations sent tripwire forces to the Island in [Operation Arctic Endurance](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Arctic_Endurance) under the cover of an army exercise. Sure even if all those nations committed, nothing they could over could prevent the US from taking the island, bar the French or British deploying nukes, but it successfully convinced the American leadership (for now) that this would be a costful and foolish endevour.
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Magnetronaap 1 day ago +11
The EU would economically cripple the North Americans if they tried.
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Firm_Print6463 1 day ago +3
Hey now, us non-american north americans do not want to be included in the american insanity.
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Firm_Print6463 1 day ago +4
I dont know what rock you've been living under but everyone I've talked to in my country would gladly lay down their life to defend our nato allies from american aggression.
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mokomi 1 day ago +7
> Greenland would be a step with no return. That didn't affect the choice with Iran at all.
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bier00t 2 days ago +32
Does this mean they are going to invade Papal State? Vatican is land locked so paratroopers are going to be needed. I wonder if Italy will allow US to use its NATO bases for refueling.
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p1en1ek 1 day ago +12
And there are no conquests in reality, just destruction and chaos and then changing focus to anither target. And of course Trump and his cronies will get lot of money.
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SkyriderRJM 1 day ago +7
Which is insane on two levels. 1) We shouldn’t be trying to conquer anyone. The action is f****** evil and it’s infuriating that NO ONE IS DOING ANYTHING ABOUT IT. 2) Our military is depleted after Iran to the point where Trump wants 1.5 Trillion for the defense budget….so it’s militarily foolish!
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Sherool 2 days ago +66
"Art of the deal" clearly does not include "how to make friends". Just straight up doing the "I have the most guns Respect my authoritah!" bit.
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Nerevarine91 1 day ago +36
He’s obsessed with the concept of “leverage” but has extremely little understanding of what it is or how it works
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Tsquare43 1 day ago +16
He truly feels that every deal has a w***** and a loser. He *needs* to be the w*****. He cannot handle a mutually agreeable solution.
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Nerevarine91 1 day ago +10
Amusingly, that is almost word-for-word identical to a description of Russian diplomacy I once read, written by an Estonian intelligence official
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Tsquare43 1 day ago +6
It's partly funny and partly frightening at the same time.
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Firm_Print6463 1 day ago +3
Well he is a russian asset.
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Whiteout- 1 day ago +4
Perhaps because of the staggering amount of foreign intelligence agencies that have leverage on him.
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boilerromeo 2 days ago +62
It’s wild. Same guy who wrote the Strategy of Denial is now talking like that.
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Bones_IV 1 day ago +7
Yeah I mean this guy came off as not a total MAGA hack at least before. He worked at CNAS for a time.
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omfgeometry 2 days ago +71
Sounds like something an evil menace would say in a superhero movie but here were are in real life...
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Kela3000 1 day ago +15
Pope being the hero in this movie could use his Pontifex Maximus title as his superhero moniker since it means "the greatest bridge-builder" and the villains are burning bridges, literally and figuratively.
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ultimateknackered 1 day ago +4
Hell Leo could just start ending his statements like that right *now*, guaranteed he'd wind Trump up with such an impressive title, look, it's got 'Maximus' in it and everything.
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The_Krambambulist 2 days ago +23
Didn't learn anything from the Iran war, didn't he? He literally wasn't able to force Iran to do what they want without committing much more.
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Spinoza42 2 days ago +31
How little is it possible to know about the Catholic church. Their strategy has *always* been to oppose a hegemony and show itself to be a counterweight to any dominating power. That is how they've survived, not by assimilation but by seeking allies against whichever dominant force that ever existed.
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Aethericseraphim 1 day ago +21
They pretty much started one of the first europe-wide wars over it too, the War of the League of Cambrai, and then flipped between the two sides, absolutely f****** every single major nation in Europe over just to keep them all weak, and helping begin the embers of the reformation.
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TelecomVsOTT 1 day ago +14
What a way to alienate a large portion of your own voting base (Catholics).
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KombaynNikoladze2002 1 day ago +28
MAGA Catholics will support Trump over the Pope. They hated Pope Francis.
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Positive_Total_8651 1 day ago +14
It has been pretty funny to me watching religious people allow politics to usurp their actual religious beliefs. It just goes to show how paper thin people's ideologies are. Theyre willing to switch on a *dime* if a man walks up and tells them what they wanna hear.
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tlst9999 1 day ago +10
MAGA Catholics are more Republican than Catholic. American Catholics are half white and half minorities. The minority half aren't voting for him anyway.
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Jar545 1 day ago +7
You forgot, trump convinced a lot of them that he comes before God so they will just ignore all the teachings of the Catholic Church.
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NotAnAce69 1 day ago +3
MAGA would salute and rebuild the Golden Calf in a heartbeat, all they need is for Trump to give them the word
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DokMabuseIsIn 1 day ago +11
“How many divisions does the Pope have?” — ~~Joseph Stalin~~ Elbridge Colby
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dimwalker 2 days ago +9
Its side as in choosing between god and trump?
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imaginary_num6er 1 day ago +3
They're the same to some people
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brute-forced 1 day ago +9
So the Trump administration is basically threatening the pope’s life
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Dongsquad420Loki 1 day ago +13
Thats so stupid. The pope will always say "stop fighting" its like the standard message even when it's inappropriate like Ukraine. Any war that happened for any reason Pope will say. " both sides stop" its just expected
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nezroy 1 day ago +5
Huh, I remember hearing about this one shitty Austrian painter who spent years trying to bully and initimidate the Pope and the Catholic Church. "Do you think the Vatican impresses me? I couldn’t care less. We’ll clear out that gang of swine." Wonder how that turned out?
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Handsdown0003 2 days ago +4
So the next target will be Cuba or the Vatican.. gotcha
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Melodic2000 1 day ago +3
> "America has the military power to do whatever it wants in the world," Colby was quoted as saying. "The Catholic Church had better take its side." Idiotic administration! Here it's about faith! It worked so well with Muslims for them than they are now going after the holiest thing on earth for Catholics?! Making another 1.4 billion enemies is a great performance I must admit.
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tackle_bones 1 day ago +3
Ahhh. It was Colby. Interesting. Edit: this is also such an interesting position for Colby to now take since his whole manifesto as an up and coming military-political thinker is that that the US should be reducing its military outreach, exposure, and engagement in most of the world (especially Ukraine and Europe) so that it can focus almost solely on China. Feels like his hypocrisy and the dishonesty of the MAGA “no new wars!” Identify is finally showing clear as day.
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dowdymeatballs 1 day ago +424
The fact this isn't global news is astounding. The Pentagon literally threatened the Vatican with military action if they didn't publicly support them. The US cautioned the Vatican ambassador to *remember the Avignon Papacy*; a series of events where the SITTING POPE WAS BEATEN TO DEATH for not bending to the French monarchy pressure to support their wars. This led to the Papacy being forcefully taken over by the Monarchy for the next 70 years. All 1.5 billion Catholics should be outraged right now.
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Ranger_242 1 day ago +145
You mean like JD Vance and Karoline Leavitt?
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sathzur 1 day ago +98
They're "Catholics" not Catholics
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ScrotumScrapings 1 day ago +25
It's become normal. People don't expect better when every interaction the americans have with anyone is like this. The americans being belligerent thugs is not news because it's their baseline behaviour.
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Ntroepy 1 day ago +22
American Catholics are far more loyal to Trump than the pope. True story.
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memenmemen 2 days ago +1985
actual potential thing Trump might say: “I’m disappointed in the Pope, not a true American.. Vatican has so much gold, they’re not using it properly. we could run the Vatican so much better, wouldn’t you like that? of course you would."
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SoulBonfire 2 days ago +366
Trump going to start tolling people using the church doorways?
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zztopsthetop 2 days ago +125
A 5% extra tithe for the God-Emperor
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Bro_Szyslak 1 day ago +36
"As soon as the gold in the basin rings, the soul from purgatory springs".
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SoulBonfire 1 day ago +9
Ah Tetzel, the guy who was tricked into absolving his own beating in advance.
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Giddius 1 day ago +17
Church tax for catholics is a thing in some european countries. The shitty painter started it to make people leave the church and lessen the power of the church. It just never went away again. So if he does that it wouldnt be something new and he also would follow the austrian painter path some more. Edit: just to say, the tax for catholics goes to the catholic church and not the state, that would be different to what trumpf will probably do.
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Sweet-Competition-15 1 day ago +13
Oh, yeah...dementia donnie won't do anything that doesn't put a single (or billion) $ in his pocket! I like that you referred to *the other dictator* as the *'expletive* painter'. donnie could be 'New York Village Idiot'...a little long winded, but... *you know!*
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tlst9999 1 day ago +7
It will go to a giant cathedral called Trump Cathedral, and it's going to be all gold plated.
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Dry-Influence9 2 days ago +7
Isnt that the most Christian thing ever, as described in supply side Jesus bible! /s
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Cigerza 1 day ago +81
"They asked me to be the new Pope, I would be a GREAT Pope, the BEST Pope, you would see the AMAZING stuff I could do as the Pope. #MakeVaticanGreatAgain"
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yuriaoflondor 1 day ago +71
He already basically said this. "I'd like to be pope. That would be my No. 1 choice." Then Trump and the official White House Twitter account made a post of an AI-generated Trump as pope. https://x.com/WhiteHouse/status/1918502592335724809
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Cigerza 1 day ago +33
Oh my God I didn't see that, that's both terrifying and shameful.
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Nukemind 1 day ago +23
I remember for Catholics in my area (I’m not one) that was a huge issue, basically a scandal to them. Unfortunately it was quickly forgotten as he did idiotic stuff every week since then.
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BendicantMias 1 day ago +7
Does Trump know about Warhammer 40k? Maybe he'd prefer being God-Emperor even more than Pope. Hell, the position is basically Pope+++++++...
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IUn1337 1 day ago +6
You won't be surprised to know his 40k fans have been on that drum since '16. Advisors aids and ilk among them so chances are slim he hasn't heard the term.
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SWatt_Officer 1 day ago +3
Yeah he was having a hissy fit that they didnt even consider him for the new pope
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meiosisI 1 day ago +14
Ohhh what I would do to see republican catholics cope with that
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DaveShadow 1 day ago +36
If only there had been warnings of what to do when false idols appeared….
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WaldoJeffers65 1 day ago +20
Their cognitive dissonance is strong. They'd have no problem with it.
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permalink_save 1 day ago +13
I'd argue that supporting threatening your pope should be grounds for excommunication.priests have been defrocked for less. They are, by definition and written rule, not true catholics if they support threatening the church. Edit: sounds like schism which is automatic excommunication
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FranciumGoesBoom 1 day ago +7
There is already a big contingent of Catholics in the USA that don't believe/follow the Pope. Started with the previous guy, the mental gymnastics these people perform is wild.
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Burgergold 1 day ago +8
He will suggest the usa army can take place of the swiss army. Then pope will get moved to usa and vatican gold extracted
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SnooHedgehogs4699 1 day ago +4
We heard it here first!
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PM_THE_REAPER 1 day ago +4
"We can just take it." - DJT
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Gaucho_Diaz 1 day ago +25
Trump vs the Catholic Church lmao. Both have great track records when it comes to... y'all already know what
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Acceptable-Bullfrog1 1 day ago +3
You joke but he actually did suggest he should be the next pope when the previous one passed.
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MithrilHuman 1 day ago +3
I’m waiting for the Henry IV moment where he starts fighting the Pope and tries replacing Pope Leo with his own appointed Antipope Jared Kushner.
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EinFahrrad 2 days ago +181
A worldly power bullying the papacy? Who has ever heard of such a thing! Before you know it Mar a lago will be the new Avignon, Antipope plus palace, the works.
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Optonimous 1 day ago +21
Does this still mean that I can make Glitterhoof my new pope? Really want to try getting my CK2 campaign running in real life.
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SkyriderRJM 1 day ago +3
Dammit. This comment just f****** snuck up on me. Take your upvote.
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Abigail716 1 day ago +5
What's funny is a Trump official actually brought up Avignon As a reason why the Pope needs to fall in line.
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AvEptoPlerIe 1 day ago +9
Yup. An overt, but technically still implicit, threat to assassinate the pope and replace him with their own man. I’m an atheist, I don’t give a damn about the pope, and I still can’t fathom the levels of arrogance and stupidity required to do this. 
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Braklinath 2 days ago +484
Evil is literally the most applicable descriptor for Republicans.
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Aware_Produce_1218 1 day ago +111
And enough Americans still cheer them on.
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ionised 1 day ago +57
Which is why there must be repurcussions.
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Brave-Dragonfly3798 1 day ago +42
There won’t be repercussions because it’s a systemic problem. The rest of the world will never look at America in the same light again. Voters twice entrusted their reputation to MAGA, what’s to say they won’t do something equally dangerous again?
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Uienring12 1 day ago +12
> The rest of the world will never look at America in the same light again. Those are some pretty big repercussions, the EU will be way more hesitant to trust the USA; if not their diplomats then at least the regular people.
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Brave-Dragonfly3798 1 day ago +12
Everyone will be. Like the fallout from this is only just beginning for the global economy, millions of people are going to lose their shirts, and millions more will go hungry. All of them know who is responsible. This is a minor inconvenience in the US, but it’s an unmitigated disaster for almost everywhere else.
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ionised 1 day ago +9
External repercussions. The US can't be trusted to manage themselves after recent history. The worst of a terrible time in world sociopolitics. Lack of trust and a refusal to engage should be the bare minimum, but we don't live in an ideal world. Corruption and money will be a major factor in keeping much of the status quo as-is, if the US survives this *without* significant change. We also need to oust the bootlickers/fanmongrels from the systems of other countries, but a lot of us are better at it than the US.
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Brave-Dragonfly3798 1 day ago +3
Yeah I agree with you there. The faster we can put distance between us and America the better. It’s like swimming away from a sinking wreck so it doesn’t drag you down with it at this point.
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Quirky-Safe-3383 2 days ago +323
Excommunicate these fucks, live on TV. It´s still possible in 2026 ? Or is it ? Make American"Christians" understand!
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zevonyumaxray 2 days ago +185
American "Christians" aren't Roman Catholic. Most American Catholics are actually fairly liberal overall. JFK barely got elected because so many Americans didn't like or at least trust Catholicism. And it wouldn't surprise me if some of the backlash against Joe Biden involved that same distrust by some people. But I didn't think MAGA would play that card so openly.
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hkzombie 1 day ago +71
Well, Vance is a Catholic...
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Nerevarine91 1 day ago +117
Tbh he’s just an Evangelical who converted because he wanted a little more pageantry
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TheDarthSnarf 1 day ago +37
He cares so little about Catholicism that [there is a photo of a Methodist church on the cover of his latest book](https://www.cincinnati.com/story/news/politics/2026/04/08/jd-vance-book-memoir-communion-catholicism-cover/89500057007/) which is about his conversion to Catholicism.
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Palomino_mare 1 day ago +14
How does a picture of a Methodist church in Virginia reflect his upbringing in Ohio? And what does that have to do with his conversion to Catholicism? He cares so little about religion that if he stopped to think about it he’d realize he’s going to Hell lol.
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KvellOnWheels 1 day ago +47
Yup. Claire Willett last night, in explaining nuances to non-Catholics on Bluesky yesterday said this: *“the Vance flavor of adult converts are just the Catholic version of Roman Empire Nostalgia Bros on Twitter, with like a St. Sebastian icon as their profile pic instead of a statue. it's all "RETVRN" bs and it's important to flag that antisemitism is a load-bearing component”*
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tisameh 1 day ago +10
I read something along the lines of that the JD Vance types of Catholic converts, just converted because they didn’t want to go to a church in a strip mall anymore.
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Kradget 1 day ago +12
Several members of the administration are, but because they want to point to the history and hierarchy. Protestant evangelicalism is messily organized for those guys, so they decided to call themselves tradcaths, even though they're actually just evangelical non-denominational cosplayers who like gold leaf (so, Catholic Church) and drinking to excess.
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KombaynNikoladze2002 1 day ago +10
> Most American Catholics are actually fairly liberal overall. IDK if it's most, there's a strong Conservative Catholic element in the US. Just look at the Supreme Court.
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JustafanIV 1 day ago +6
In the modern era, the Catholic vote is typically within 1-2% of the average American vote. The Catholic Church has positions not easily encapsulated by either political party, so you will see Catholics on both sides.
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CadianGuardsman 1 day ago +3
So the Cathlic Church as an institution is broadly socially conservative and econonically centre left globally. In many nations its strongly associated with trade unions, social justice and charity. The big thing with America though is that its version of Catholicism is heavily influenced in certain areas by Evangelicalism. It really comes down to what in the US the individual feels is more important however. Social or Economic issues. And many Churches focus on the social issues rather than the economic justice ones.
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986754321 1 day ago +5
> According to the Washington Post’s exit poll, Trump won the national Catholic vote by a 15-point margin: 56% to 41%. This shows a much larger victory for Trump among Catholic voters than the Post’s 2020 exit polls, which showed Trump with only a five-point lead above President Joe Biden, 52% to 47%.
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DataDrivenDoc 2 days ago +20
American Christians don't really care about the Pope. The Pope is a Catholic leader, non denominational Christian churches don't recognize the popes authority.
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Leather-Objective-87 1 day ago +14
Yes but there are something like 75m Catholics in the us, not a small number. And about 60% voted for the republicans in 24. Do you think it is a coincidence that trump attended the popes funeral in Rome? The 2 of them did not like each other and let me tell you the cerimony was very heavy, almost 2 hours of Latin spells.
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willstr1 1 day ago +5
JD (couch humper) Vance claims to be catholic, so allegedly he should care
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magpie_bird 2 days ago +46
oh great, I'm in a young adult fantasy novel. can't wait until the undead rise in the UK and the King needs to unlock a hidden source of magic to protect the realm.
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omfgeometry 2 days ago +340
I used to think that Russia and China were the greatest threats to humanity but now I know for a fact that America is the number one threat.
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dhaliman 2 days ago +90
This hasn’t been the first instance of them acting this way.
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Melanoma_Magnet 1 day ago +17
Hey don’t jinx it
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Num_Fug 1 day ago +5
I don’t think that would be very random though right? Speaking of Taiwan at least it’s more of the entire world saying “Hey, if everyone keeps showing China that it’s possible to do what you want and face no repercussions and the rest of the world enables it then China will do this thing!”
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Troubleshooter11 1 day ago +11
Considering the Chinese military buildup and preperations to invade Taiwan, this might age poorly.
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TK421missingfrompost 1 day ago +9
Tibet and Vietnam will disagree
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sunnyspiders 2 days ago +47
America is only a threat because America is not enforcing its own laws over its rich people. “Do you know who my daddy is?” is winning right now. No kings?
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Ntroepy 1 day ago +10
When has America EVER enforced its own laws over its rich people? We’ve always been a “*Rules for thee…*” country. Trump just said - f*** it, I’m not pretending anymore. I’m big, you’re not, so f*** you. And I’ll crush you if you don’t submit. And its worked disturbingly well.
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Chemical-Drawer852 2 days ago +78
You never thought that a 250 year nation that was at war for 99% of its existence wouldn't pull this shit ? It was just a matter of statistics that they'd turn over their allies
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Murderbad 1 day ago +18
It's Trump and the loyalists he's installed. America isn't a singular entity with a hivemind, no country is, regardless of how often it's at war. No one 11 years ago during Obama would have ever expected anything like this, including you I'd wager.
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FluffyApartment32 1 day ago +11
I mean, I really hope you guys can pull out of this mess. Truly. But regardless of what happens Trump never seem to break the 35% approval rating floor. It's not him and his cronies, it's nearly a third of the country. Now, I'm not making the same claim that the user above (related to the US being 250 year old country and etc.). But the fact of matter is that this that while, yes, the US is not a hivemend, the fact that 1/3 of the population will ride or die with him and that another 1/3 just doesn't seem to care enough to not put people like him into power is a huge indictment of the state of your country. Like I said, I really hope you guys can pull out of this mess, and I still look very fondly to the 1/3 who still care and who did what they could to avoid all of this. But this goes far beyond Trump. It won't be easy, even if Dems get back the House and Senate, and then the White House (which I'm praying for).
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Murderbad 1 day ago +9
I'll be completely honest here, as an American who has lived internationally for 18 years. I don't think were coming out of this. Not whole, and even in the best case scenario, not like we were. That 1/3rd that didn't vote didn't do so because they werent registered or weren't near a polling station, they didn't vote because they didn't believe in any of it anymore. And the only reason they'll vote in the midterms is because of the damage Trump has caused. Which is already a touchy subject considering the likelihood those votes will be rigged and/or intimidated by ICE. Its a f****** mess and I fear the American experiment as it was intended may be over.
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Brave-Dragonfly3798 1 day ago +24
The paranoid strain of conservatism is not a new thing, what we have now is just the culmination of that.
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Murderbad 1 day ago +12
Under Trump, yeah it is. And if we make it out of this and measures aren't taken to change policy in response to what was learned with him in office, it will remain so. America is a car, the driver is the president, the two other branches are his wife and the people are his 3 stepkids. And right now he's drunk, ranting about killing everyone, doing 90 in a 40 while two kids cry and beg their mom for help while the other laughs and yells that his new dad is so f****** cool (even though this kid also has a black eye). Meanwhile the other motorists are also at risk and one or two have been ran off the road.
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Mammoth_Opposite_647 1 day ago +11
It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal. Henry Kissinger 
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Faowhin 2 days ago +32
Waiting for Trump's social media post where he threatens to bomb the Heaven.
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KE55 2 days ago +31
Did they add, in a menacing tone, "remember what happened to the last Pope after Vance visited him?"
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ionised 1 day ago +27
Here. I'll do the Vatican a favour and draft a response for them: > F*** off.
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jimnylover 1 day ago +27
Elbridge Colby (grandson of former CIA Director Colby) is the same jackass that instructed the Pentagon to halt armament shipments to Ukraine that were approved by Congress
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veevoir 2 days ago +24
*"The Pope? How many divisions has he got?"* - J.Stalin (also undersecretary Elbridge Colby, apparently)
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namotous 1 day ago +18
Or what? They’re gonna bomb the Vatican? Kidnap the pope? Lmao
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Tuxersize 1 day ago +8
Sounds like my CK3 game:)
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Spiritual_Park3308 2 days ago +17
Ew. These people are the devil’s minions.
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CaseDapper 2 days ago +37
US going to abduct pope due to distribution opium to masses?
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Zestyclose_Pickle511 2 days ago +12
Yes, and then pardon a prison full of rapists and scam artists.
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mriguy 1 day ago +4
That's the J6 insurrectionists, and that already happened.
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zeuseason 2 days ago +11
'Join us or die' is an interesting stance for the US to take, don't you think?
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adumblittlebaby 1 day ago +11
These fuckers have zero sense of morality, they don’t think there’s any wrong side which is why they’re flabbergasted people don’t take theirs.
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ZeraDoesStuff 1 day ago +9
He wants to go farther than we all expected, he wants to go back to the dark ages where Kings ruled the clergy
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ktwhite42 1 day ago +10
Ironic, considering that when JFK ran for president, one of Nixon's strategies was "we can't have a Catholic president, he'll take orders from the Pope!" and now that we have an American Pope, the Pentagon thinks it can give him orders.
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bobad86 1 day ago +7
They quoted the Auvignon papacy in the Middle Ages…. Middle Ages!
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Leather-Objective-87 1 day ago +7
This is completely crazy
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whoeve 1 day ago +7
Fascists!
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Banksmuth_Squan 1 day ago +8
Type of shit that happens before a world leader makes their own religion
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eekay233 1 day ago +7
JD Vance being excommunicated because of Trump would be the funniest f****** thing I've ever seen.
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naggert 1 day ago +7
It's like that episode of South Park, where they say it's not very christian to kill Jesus. Threatening the pope, while telling everyone you're a good christian is such bullshit. I'm quite sure the pope ranks slightly higher in God's favor than Trump, despite republicans saying he's doing God's work.
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Pleasant-Bad-4650 1 day ago +6
US to Vatican: choose Jesus or us.
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grumpymcelbows25 1 day ago +6
Trying to bully a Catholic from Chicago... THE Catholic from Chicago... Bold choice.
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C0RDE_ 1 day ago +6
To borrow (and probably butcher) a killer line from the Expanse: "we need to convince people that god is on our side" gets the retort "Abraham Lincoln hoped that he was on god's side."
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january1073 1 day ago +5
Apparently, the current protagonists of the U.S. administration - "practizing catholic", crusader tattoo, etc. - have for long time not read the New Testament. Everything that comes from Washington D.C. right now is the complete opposite of what Jesus preached. There are times when I doubt the institution of the church, but in today's times I am happy that we have the Vatican - to courageously hold up a mirror to the clan criminals in political office.
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LickTheSnozzberry 1 day ago +5
This is really pouring cold water on the theory that the Vatican runs the world because if they did, I would think that anyone that spoke to them like that would mysteriously end up missing and unfortunately none of them have yet
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danielrobertcampbell 1 day ago +5
"You don't speak for God, I do."
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Sarnsereg 1 day ago +5
I'm sure the pope is going to pick God's side rather than trumps side
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SuddenValley1899 1 day ago +6
America making Iran and the Catholic Church look good by comparison. We really are the bad guys. 
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Hot-Combination9130 2 days ago +14
Trump, his cronies and every single “person” that voted for him will burn in eternal hellfire. The antichrist has come and you MAGAs will follow him straight to hell by the righteous hand of GOD.
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TaylorWK 1 day ago +4
How long until Israel sends missiles to the Vatican?
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eulynn34 1 day ago +4
I didn't have the US bombing The Vatican on my BINGO card, but in hindsight, I probably should have
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wwaxwork 1 day ago +5
They already took a side when they appointed the guy they did Pope and it wasn't the current governments side. They were very much making a point that they were against the current US government and it's plans by choosing a pope that US Catholics could relate to and take leadership from instead of from the evangelical "Christians" in power in the US now. Also why he chose Leo as his papal name. He's named after the father of Catholic social teaching that emphasized social justice, the worker and was a pro science pope (as much as a pope can be).
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McortezLSU 1 day ago +4
Future generation will judge americans for putting people this brazenly, and obviously evil in power. Like it will be cautionary tale shit. "Tim! Share with your brother or you'll turn into a American!"
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Vlip 2 days ago +6
Now now now, if you are a devout catholic then you ought to accept that the Pope follows the voice of god and it shouldn't even cross your mind that you could... \*gasp\* influence the Pope's stance on issues. Especially by such crass mob like tactics.
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Financial-Term-6961 2 days ago +14
This war will make America look weak for the first time in history
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Brave-Dragonfly3798 1 day ago +18
I sometimes marvel at the vast gulf between how Americans see themselves and the way the rest of the world sees them. What is a seemingly mild episode of political navel gazing for Americans is an economic catastrophe for everyone else. People don’t just see the America as weak, they see it as malevolent and dangerous.
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Melodic2000 1 day ago +8
> People don’t just see the America as weak, they see it as malevolent and dangerous. Even here in Eastern Europe, where we are quite staunchly pro American, we started to see this. I also was very much like that until Trump and his cretins come in the picture.
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Murderbad 1 day ago +10
We looked pretty weak in Vietnam. And when we ran away leaving the Taliban back in charge.
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Melodic2000 1 day ago +5
Don't forget that Afghanistan retreat, while happening during Biden, was also a Trump first administration doing. They signed the deal with the Taliban's.
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Alps_Useful 2 days ago +3
The side of god, so not Americas or israels
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SnooHedgehogs4699 1 day ago +3
Yeah, it’s almost like there’s a whole book written about it!
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RunningPirate 1 day ago +3
“What are we gonna do, kidnap the pope?” —Cletus Snow—
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Sislar 1 day ago +3
The more telling point “on our military ambitions”
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JohnBPrettyGood 1 day ago +3
What would it take to get a Vatican Diplomat to tell someone to F*** Off? I think we are there. The Vatican is not gonna turn the other cheek on this one
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HeartWoodFarDept 1 day ago +3
Popes rep told them to Bite It.
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Kujo3043 1 day ago +3
Excommunicate every member of this cabinet
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timrezig 1 day ago +3
Excommunicate the entire country
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Mother_Airline_6276 1 day ago +3
Peter Thiel is always on about the Antichrist. Has he seen this Elbridge Colby guy? The guy “screams” Antichrist. Also, that’s a rich kid name if I’ve ever seen one. Of course he’d have the gall to talk shit to the Pope. I’m an atheist and I wouldn’t talk that kind of shit to the Pope. These “people”…
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doroteoaran 1 day ago +3
Don’t underestimate the power of the Catholic Church
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KittySharkWithAHat 1 day ago +3
How about NO, a******?
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Big-Leadership-4604 1 day ago +3
I am the Great Cardinalio! I think VP is a bunghole. Are you threatening me?
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The_Goondocks 1 day ago +3
Fake Christians at it again
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papegoie 1 day ago +3
«colby then threatened with a visit from the vance.»
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paulsteinway 1 day ago +3
"We just need a proclamation that God is with us."
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Griffolion 1 day ago +3
So not only has Trump alienated 2b Muslims, he's also in the process of alienating 1.4b Catholics.
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default-anon 1 day ago +3
Any "catholic" who supports trump doesnt actually believe in god. They say theyre "religious" to make themselves feel superior and less scared of death. They dont actually care what any pope says if they disagree with it.
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U_Kitten_Me 1 day ago +5
Cuba can wait, let's bomb the Vatican!  /s
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