Planned fight escalates to mass shooting at North Carolina park, authorities say

‘I want to fight fairly…but if I start losing I WILl pull a gun

insecure widdle boys that really really really wanna convince the other boyz they are tough manly men that are strong and definitely definitely not gay, not even a little bit. Sprinkle in a little "I'M OFFENDED!!!" and shitty parenting and you've got 90% of beef.

There was a shooting at Iowa?

Man I still get a jolt thinking you were talking about the Gang-Lu shooting. It's sad we have to differentiate between the two now. Of course only one happened on campus.

Jesus christ I thought the mass shooting thing stopped.

id hazard to guess 2+ gentlemen agreed to fist fight at the park to resolve some sort of dispute and then one or more decided they would rather shoot than fight

The fight in West Side Story was a planned fight but then Bernardo brought a knife and things went bad

Do teenagers often have planned fights? Yes. I mean in your school career you never heard classmates say shit like "meet me at the tanbark after school" to settle beefs and stuff? It has always been incredibly common.

Im imagining like in high school, where an argument turned into 'meet me at the park', except it turned deadly.. Or some fight club thing, but i think its the first

It appears to just be what it says on the tin. Two kids planned to meet at vlc media player to fight.

GenX here. I went to an all boys Catholic high school in the late 80s. It was pretty common if two classmates had a beef, one would "call the other one out". This was an invitation to fight after school at "2:06" (The time we were let out). If you declined and/or did not show you were a coward. If both showed up, a good chunk of the class would circle the two boys and a fight would ensue. Most of the time it never got to bad with the two involved swinging blows into one who took too many hits and submitted. I never remember anyone needing any special medical attention after. Most of the time it settled whatever dispute and both parties would leave with respect for the other one.

Scheduled fisticuffs.

> Is "planned fight" a well-known, widely used term or something No, it's just a phrase in plain English that means what it says - a fight that was planned ahead of time, i.e.: "You and me, bike rack after school, I'm gonna kick your ass!" "I'll be there, and I'll knock your teeth in!" Except, in this case, they met at the park.

I instantly thought of when I was in school and the whole school would migrate 100 feet away from the school to watch a fight.

I’ve heard “planned fight” used for kids arranging a meetup to brawl, usually via Snapchat/text. Everyone shows up to watch, and then some idiot brings a gun. Articles should really spell that out.

It's the plot to West Side Story.

Have you really never heard of two people agreeing or making plans to fight in the future? Meet me after class, I'm waiting for you in the parking lot, outside the saloon at noon, when I see you Friday it's on, etc

Fast Times at Ridgemont High was shown in class that day?

Some states have mutual combat laws where if both parties agree they can fight with witnesses however once someone falls down that it. Going any further breaks that agreement and become a crime.

Back in the day we used to meet at the old car wash at the abandoned gas station to resolve interpersonal disputes. There were rules. Others would put a stop to the fight if it got out of hand. I think only one time someone ended up with a black eye, and really, most of the time the fights were just posturing, a couple of shoves, and someone stopping before their punch connected, and that was it. Most people really don't want to get hit.

Not widely used at all but with the school year winding down, you might hear more stories like this one. This is just ancedotal knowledge based on my own experience but just last week a student was telling me about the various fights he's heard kids planning for the end of the school year. Kids agree to fight and all their friends show up to record and goad each other on. Sounds like this is what happened and at least one kids showed up with a gun. Yet, our leaders and politicians still don't care.

Both Carolina’s have had an uptick in recent years of large groups of teenagers meeting in popular spots specifically to beat the shit out of each other. I stopped counting because it happens literally every weekend downtown where I live.

It's when you plan a fight.

You me after-school in the park type bullshit that turned into kids shooting kids

Often in a school scenario heated people would go, "Meet me at the park." where faculty members would not be there the intervene. It's stupid, childish chest beating to prove you're the bigger guy. Stupid games, stupid prizes.

Maybe it’s niche but we’ve been seeing more large group brawls in public places lately. Here in PA they had a massive fight at Hershey park and a few days later a mass fight at a mall an hour outside of Philly

Football hooligans have done this shit in the past. Meet with two groups of dozens of people in a field or a forest and just beat each other to pulp. F****** losers

I mean I'm high school people were planning fights all time. It was usually Ryan shock VS whoever beat him up at the time

When I was a kid, if you had a disagreement at school, you would threaten to beat up the other person by meeting at the water tower across from school property. Along the lines of "meet me at the water tower after school or you are a p**** " We didn't say " let's have a planned fight" but that's what it was. Doing it after school, off school property would prevent you from getting in trouble at school, like suspended or detention. Word spreads fast so there would always be a crowd of people to watch it go down.

I went to a rough elementary, middle and high school. This was in the 80s 90s.  While I saw more , meet me at the bell ring , end in knife fights I did lose a friend who showed up at the middle school soccer field to be gunned down by the years much older 7th grader Driven by his older brother. We all hit the floor or jumped the wall but knew who had done it. And that kid was dead by 20.

Nowhere does it say they were middle schoolers

Normal for a country that has been in almost nonstop wars for the past 250 years.

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*"No way to prevent this"* \-the only country where this regularly happens.

Nothing gold can stay

I’m genuinely not sure which side of the gun control debate you’re on because this is exactly the argument *for* guns, then you go on questioning why a politician hasn’t proposed banning them. You listed why, lol. It’s the equalizer against someone else who already does not respect the law. And for what it’s worth, two dumbasses who felt like bringing guns to a fistfight isn’t really worth the gun control debate anyway. This isn’t a mass shooting, nor is it even home defense gone wrong. This was Darwin taking out the trash.

Cause we all know just one more law on top of the others will fix this, as criminals will line up to turn in their guns.

Broadly speaking, laws don’t prevent crime, they’re just layered on top of what people were going to do anyway

As I always say, you gotta be alive to get to court to defend your rights - you lose them all when you’re dead anyways.

>no politician is even remotely close to suggesting a pistol ban or confiscation Because there is no way that would hold up in court as long as the 2nd amendment exists.

How are those laws enforced? If people are ignoring them they aren’t enforced at all.

Wow you have the same understanding of the issue as a middle schooler

Winston Salem has been pretty rough lately. This past weekend was exceptionally odd for the amount of severe wrecks and other shit going on. Although this was also near Tabor, and it's not that of an uncommon event in the area. We had a lockdown a couple of years ago from some dipshit sneaking a gun into the school to shoot another kid.

We don’t even enforce the gun laws we have now. Felons in possession of a firearm are supposed to go to prison but they are consistently let off with probation

Already illegal for kids to have glocks. Maybe start prosecuting irresponsible parents instead of more laws that exempt police officers every single time?

Baltimore has been solving this by having cops seemingly every block which a lot of people who are anti gun are also not a fan of. You need someone to actually control the guns. Laws alone don’t do anything. We have had a ~60% reduction in both non fatal shootings and homicides in the past 5 years though.

Firearms were not owned legally Firearms were not concealed legally Firearms were not used legally Firearms were in a zone illegally Just say mass gun confiscation and be done with it.