On the show, I look forward to someone being removed from the hive mind and what they have to say about the experience. Assuming they’re even aware of the experience.
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As_Seen_On_RadioApr 14, 2026
+211
I think it would be a fun twist if someone is finally removed from the hive, and they desperately want to go back.
After experiencing pure love, joy, and acceptance, why would you ever want to go back to being miserable like Carol and Manousos?
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theparallelogramApr 15, 2026
+127
Well the hive minds entire goal is to use all of earths resources to spread the message further so there’s that. Also agency is important they have no say in what they are doing they are just doing it because they have to. While a pretty picture is presented to the others most are doing hard manual labor for the “virus”
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ClawlessApr 15, 2026
+23
Well, not quite. The idea is they do have say. They have just as much say as every other member of the collective, and they collectively agree to the best course of action for each individual member.
23
cakeandaleApr 15, 2026
+86
They know >!they’re inevitably going to starve to death because of their compulsion against committing harm!< so I really doubt the hive mind is acting on the collective goals of individuals. It has its own goals and priorities.
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staedtler2018Apr 15, 2026
+14
We know they are not acting on the collective goals of individuals because at the beginning of the show, the hive had practically no individuals in it, and yet it was behaving in pretty much the same way.
14
RedPon3Apr 15, 2026
+47
Thing is, they believe their own lives are a worthy sacrifice to perpetuate the hive mind further. I think that’s a big part of the conflict in this show. It isn’t as simple as “hive mind is evil actually”
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TalcoveApr 15, 2026
+24
> they believe their own lives are a worthy sacrifice
Do they, as individuals, think that or is that just the effect that being part of the hive mind has on their psychology? I’d personally compare it to constantly being on drugs - it may feel good and you may want more but it’s no doubt changing your psychology and physiology to influence your thoughts and actions.
> It isn’t as simple as “the hive mind is evil actually”
Hard disagree. Infecting someone’s mind without their consent and forcing/influencing them to think and act in a way that is detrimental to their own health, safety, and survival (not to mention stripping them of any individuality and agency, making them do things contrary to their own culture and morality)? I’d certainly call that evil, no matter how nice or non-violent it was.
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QuintoBlancoApr 16, 2026
+2
I think you make valid points, but this also how human society works in general.
Many people are forced to work, sometimes in dangerous conditions, 60 to 80 hours a week just to have enough money to cover the basics. And child labor and slavery are still rampant.
People are forced to fight in wars they don't support.
And this is often done because culture and morality are forced on them.
A historical example is that people with power in England used to argue that paying workers more than was needed for basic food and housing, because the working class would drink and money if they could afford to do so.
2
Broken_SkyApr 15, 2026
+16
This is what I think too. They are not one mind being controlled, they are all minds with one unifying goal. Spread the 'joy' of joining, even if that means some with starve, or that 1 has to manipulate an unjoined, or multiple play out film scenes with another etc in order to spread what they believe to be the best thing ever to those last few - and out in to the galaxy.
They know what that individuals memories are, they do not feel everything, everyone feels all the time (as Zosia explains in the spa) and they know how to act 'normal' because that is all still there inside them.
But they are also being flooded with a natural high, all the time, so they are happy and content and never alone etc
I wonder if instead of u joining fully, they can partition someone off temporarily and deprogram then in a way. What would happen if they could stop the constant high for one person and reblance their emotional center? Etc
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Mavericks7Apr 15, 2026
+2
I wonder if at some point the hive (or part of it) mutates, and they decide they can and will harm others to advance their goals, this leading to a hive civil war.
2
TurboGrannyApr 15, 2026
+2
> I really doubt the hive mind is acting on the collective goals of individuals
Well, a TON of people are foolishly wired this way, and a ton are foolishly wired the other way. Hyper individualism and hyper collectivism both lead to bad places which I believe is what the show is demonstrating. You need a good mix which we used to call "community". I think also a grand joke about the whole thing is that the virus acts like a weapon on our planet leading to the destruction of our species due to this flaw, and rightly so you'd believe that that is always the conclusion of the virus and its true purpose. However, what if the aliens that "shared" it actually didn't have this problem, and really thought they were doing good. What if they'd be horrified to see how it worked out on our planet?
2
SlidjeApr 15, 2026
Because the virus is probably a bioweapon to make the population a pushover when they invade Earth.
0
cakeandaleApr 15, 2026
+5
I suspect the virus is the invasion - the signal from space was the product of the hive mind on another planet, and the ultimate goal/compulsion of the hive mind on Earth is to do the same and spread the signal again to other planets.
In the first episode one of the scientists says the signal would have taken an antenna the size of Africa, I’m pretty sure that’s foreshadowing to what we’re going to see in the future.
5
ElodinBlackcloakApr 15, 2026
+2
I lik that this idea is almost like a cute form of the marker from Dead Space and I would much prefer this over being driven to madness, turned into a necromorph, and eventually have my biomass become part of the hive and the eventual Brethren Moon. Lol
2
therealruinApr 15, 2026
+1
I’d also argue the virus is the invasion because successful completion of its goals leave its host species to go extinct.
So the “aliens” who created the virus (assuming it was created by intelligent life, which may be a wrong assumption) win a sort of war of attrition against other intelligent alien species technologically advanced enough to become infected.
One by one they become infected and fall, leaving the virus’s creators (or the virus itself) to eventually become the lone form of intelligence with nothing left in the universe to infect, ultimately dying off.
1
bautinApr 15, 2026
+4
Imagine a species that is not carbon-based, but exists instead as essentially information.
The signal *is* the species. It's why they can communicate with each other telepathically even though that is not a feature of humans.
But to spread to other planets, they need to build antennae etc. So they are colonizing.
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therealruinApr 15, 2026
+1
I like this. A lot. It gets into some really interesting ethical and philosophical questions about where we draw the line on “life” and “species” in a novel way. Thanks for giving me this to think about!
1
Jankat7Apr 15, 2026
+1
These theories are so stupid because they completely undermine the point of the show. Do you think that in the fourth season there is going to be an alien invasion and then carol is going to grab a gun and fight against them?
1
woemcatsApr 15, 2026
+6
"they collectively agree to the best course of action for each individual member."
I don't think this is true. There are no individual members of the collective. That's why it's so hard to even wrap your head around the premise. It's like saying your individual blood cells have a say in what your body does.
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FatalTragedyApr 15, 2026
+5
There are no "members" of the collective. There is only one conscious being: The hive mind. One conscious entity controlling many bodies. The individual people are gone. Maybe they can be brought back (hopefully), but for now, they do not exist.
5
JasonDeSantaApr 15, 2026
+8
Well, we don’t know if the pure love, joy, and acceptance are actually true or not. The hivemind might be tricking people into joining it and hiding a darker truth about how it truly feels on the inside. At the end of the day it is like a virus that is trying to spread to more and more star systems/planets with intelligent life on it.
8
SofieTerleskaApr 14, 2026
+11
Agreed, they might know intellectually it's a bad idea (considering that humanity is now on a collision course with mass starvation, among many other things) but the sheer peace, and being able to communicate instantly without words and understand everything at a glance? That could be really hard to give up. Though I can see Lakshmi deciding she's going to get Ravi out of the hive mind kicking and screaming once it really sinks in that her son just isn't in there anymore. Or at least, he's no more in his own body than 7 billion other minds are.
11
OerthlingApr 15, 2026
+17
"Zosia" told us that they are not "talking". It's not telepathy where you talk-communicate with others mentally.
It's an awareness. Because "they" are not "they" at all. It's one big gigamind - that happens to run on a distributed network of 7.3 bn brains.
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CanvaverbalistApr 15, 2026
-2
It's basically the internet x100000000
It'd be a real mistake not to just straight up use that argument.
Reading and watching people's comments, thoughts, opinions, impressions, advices, experiences, has also influenced and shaped who I am, the person I am now is different because of that. And yet I'm not interested in living in my own secluded bubble just to protect the integrity of my ego, I'm willing to merge and mingle and have it dictate what I do.
I want them to make the argument that the people inside the hive mind still have free will, it's just influenced by the information they have, just like us. I read a news article and hop suddenly I don't want to do a certain thing anymore. Oh no what a sheep, I'm so lacking in free will oh no.
-2
FatalTragedyApr 15, 2026
+1
There *are no* people in the hive mind. The people no longer exist. Thre is only one conscious entity: the hive mind. It controls the actions of it's body, which happens to consist of billions of human bodies with no consciousness of their own anymore.
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CanvaverbalistApr 15, 2026
+1
This is what we assume because this is what most people consider hive minds to be.
I'm offering an alternative explanation on the concept, one that I'd argue is vastly more conceptually and morally interesting.
1
IrrelevantPuppyApr 15, 2026
+2
Agreed. I think that, or something similar will make the most interesting story.
On the flip side, imagine how boring of a story it’d be if they detach one person and they flip out like “OH MY GOD IT WAS TORTURE!”. Oh good, there’s no nuance anymore and the morality is clear
2
nickyd1393Apr 15, 2026
+2
they do this in agents of shield and it is very compelling. they frame it like an addict looking for that high again.
2
mtruemanApr 15, 2026
+1
“We have to go back Kate”
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[deleted]Apr 15, 2026
+34
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boissondevinApr 15, 2026
+29
That would mean they're basically the Geth. Distributed processing, wirelessly linked. The more modules linked, the smarter the whole.
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FalconBurchamApr 15, 2026
+7
It’s been awhile, but wasn’t Legion an individual? He seemed fine.
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boissondevinApr 15, 2026
+14
Yes, but only Legion. They described themselves as a self-contained multitude of Geth. Hence the name.
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KuraeshinApr 15, 2026
+11
Legion was a couple thousand Geth Programs that united and launched a Mobile Platform. They did not agree with the Heretics.
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FalconBurchamApr 15, 2026
+3
Yeah, I vaguely remember that.. damn, I really wish they’d make a new mass effect game. 😭😂
3
Some-Token-Black-GuyApr 15, 2026
+3
Well good news for you, they are!
(It just won't be out for a few years at this point)
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FalconBurchamApr 15, 2026
+2
Oh sure, I know they *said* they’re making a new ME, but I think they said like 2030 or some such? I won’t hold my breath. 😅
2
beyx2Apr 15, 2026
+7
I really like this theory
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fcocycloneApr 15, 2026
+5
Yeah, to me these "people" are dead. The bodies are just husks for one sentience that happens to have retained all the prior memories, and if you remove one its just an empty shell.
5
evilcleric_hoApr 15, 2026
+2
That's how I see it too. It's basically a zombie show, but the zombies in this case are benevolent and happy, which makes it really interesting. It's the weirdest post apocalyptic story i've ever seen.
2
blackwhattackApr 15, 2026
+1
The lag on this system would be immense then, imagine you have to access the memory of someone on the other side of the earth
1
__Hello_my_name_is__Apr 15, 2026
+1
One thing I always wonder: How did it work for the first person to be converted?
Like, she was a hive mind of one person at that point. So she was just.. herself. Why would she act any different?
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RandomPersonBobApr 14, 2026
+43
Same, and I am getting too deep here but I wonder if this signal is the answer to the fermi paradox.. although I might be thinking about that more than the writers..
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quirkymuseApr 15, 2026
+35
if you wanted to capture Earth for its resources (or whatever) wouldn't the smartest, easiest play be making a hive mind virus that keeps humanity compliant while also stopping their use of said resources... I feel like the hive mind has already explained whats going on
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The_Vampire_BarlowApr 15, 2026
+18
I honestly think the show would be a lot more interesting if it wasn't an attack. That the hive mind on another planet legitimately thinks this is the best way to exist and wants to spread it to other worlds. It's broadcast out because travel that far is impossible/impractical.
If it ends with alien ships in the sky and people fighting an invasion I'm going to be disappointed. That's just so generic, and for all of my complaints about the show, it's not generic.
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OerthlingApr 15, 2026
+7
There will never be any spaceships or invading aliens in this show I think.
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J1389Apr 15, 2026
+1
Yeah I take it at it's word. It's a virus with a biological imperative to spread itself, but it infests intelligent life on intergalactic scale. Efficiently using the resources of the infected society to spread the signal further to infect more societies. The biological hosts don't really matter and wouldn't ever need to meet. They just need to keep working to spread the signal.
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ReignyDayesApr 15, 2026
+13
This has been my take from the very beginning. It's clear that the Hive takes on some aspects of humanity's general core beliefs. They clearly operate on some sort of emotional level. But yeah, my assumption has been that the current phase was meant to test for any resistance. Then they'd begin terraforming the planet or using the humans as some sort of resource.
But if the final reveal is some sort of, "It was a ai/highly advanced simulation/game."
I'm gonna mcfuckin lose it.
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quirkymuseApr 15, 2026
+7
I suspect the original signal from space was a first strike weapon... note how the mouse was hive mind but dogs never are? Thats selective transference of the "virus"
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InspectorMendelApr 15, 2026
+2
> But if the final reveal is some sort of, "It was a ai/highly advanced simulation/game."
How would that even work? We have quite a bit of detail on how the hive functions and I don't see how that would fit in at all.
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ReignyDayesApr 18, 2026
+1
Yes. That's my point.
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PURELY_TO_VOTEApr 15, 2026
+14
Nah. That sort of narrative is basically an invention from scifi. There's no circumstance in which interstellar travel for a resource like water or something would ever be necessary. It's far too energetically expensive, always an easier way to get the resources closer by, and anyone advanced enough to move among the stars won't need anything as simple as what the earth can offer anyway.
Instead, think of it like this. The hive mind is essentially a virus, only it's operating at the level of planets rather than cells.
Like all viruses, it has no _reason_ to exist. It's effectively evolution: selection would favor hive minds that spread from world to world over hive minds that don't.
So if they _can_ exist, the universe would almost certainly be dominated by this form of hive mind.
More broadly, life in our universe might be dominated by meta organisms like this. Not necessarily hive minds, but stuff including and similar to hive minds.
So-called "Hegemonizing swarms"
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OerthlingApr 15, 2026
+4
The problem with the "resources" idea is that it's mostly stupid.
Water? Plentiful in the universe. Asteroids are more accessible than planets. Metals? Same thing.
Fossil fuels? Obsolete c*** to a starfaring civilization.
The physical stuff that Earth has in its ground isn't really special.
There's 2 things that Earth has that are special and of potential value: A biosphere and an intelligent species with a technological civilization.
The biosphere is most likely largely incompatible with alien life, but at least its interesting and not something one finds in any asteroid, moon or a billion other planets.
But IMHO the one thing that would have high value to a starfaring civilization is data (information, media, cultural artifacts, arts). Hydrogen, oxygen, gold, platinum - none of those are special and planets are just more "expensive" places to get those (because more gravity requires more energy to access).
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staedtler2018Apr 15, 2026
+1
I know it's sci-fi and all, but creating a 'hive mind virus' doesn't actually seem that easy at all.
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New-Independent-1481Apr 15, 2026
+1
A very important question that has been buried is... *why* are they doing this? Is it to prepare Earth for colonisation by an alien species, who will arrive to find a pristine planet with just a handful of perfectly obedient drones that they can harvest the entirety of human knowledge from?
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WischiwaschbaerApr 18, 2026
+1
If the speed of light limit didn't exist, sure...
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WischiwaschbaerApr 18, 2026
+1
It is both an answer to the Fermi paradox and a response to the dark forest hypothesis.
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RydmeApr 15, 2026
+7
Im convinced this is going to happen and that the actor Karan Soni(Dopinder from Deadpool) will be the person. He was one of the two first scientists affected and I couldn't figure out why they used a relatively well known actor for such a tiny part.
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roastedmarshmellowsApr 15, 2026
+16
I’m not disagreeing, but sometimes it’s as simple as the actor being a buddy and asking/being offered a bit role as a lark.
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RydmeApr 15, 2026
+5
True. Vince Gilligan is a good name to have on your resume(or IMDB credits).
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bnctsApr 15, 2026
+6
I’ve said this before elsewhere - I’m pretty sure the hive mind and everything about it is a lie. It’s an interstellar virus: it infects a host planet’s sentient species, and its only goal is to spread to more planets. All planetary resources are devoted to making this happen. First, through infecting all members by any means necessary; second, by building the signal generator that infects the next planet. The signal earth received is the result of the same thing taking place on that planet.
There is no joy in the hive. That’s clear in those moments that the last member of a group gets assimilated. Resources are immediately retasked to the next goal. “They can’t lie”? A simple trust building mechanism that hides the big lie.
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ranhaltApr 15, 2026
+19
Everything you said is explicitly explained in the show.
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teffarfApr 15, 2026
+1
Not really, especially this part is wrong
>There is no joy in the hive. That’s clear in those moments that the last member of a group gets assimilated
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WischiwaschbaerApr 18, 2026
+1
Just because this is a virus spreading through the galaxy doesn't mean the people in the hive can't feel joy. Joy is a few biochemical processes in the brain that should be ready for an advanced species to manipulate.
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SeasonalChatterApr 15, 2026
+1
That’s definitely happening near the end of season 2/start of season 3
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claimticketApr 15, 2026
+1
I am here kind of hoping that it’s more of an alien parasite using the memories of these folks, and they’re all but functionally gone. Kind of dark, but at least it’s not something I’ve seen before. Otherwise it’s kind of just.. Borg.
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WischiwaschbaerApr 18, 2026
+1
Since the hive communicates with radio waves that should be fairly easy. Faraday cage and done .
1
gramferApr 14, 2026
+175
> Wydra talked about her bond with co-stars Rhea Seehorn, Samba Schutte, and Carlos-Manuel Vesga. She said they share a “beautiful connection” and added that she “cannot wait… to be together every day.” She also said she is “counting the days. Sometime in the fall.”
So they are going to start filming season 2 this fall.
P. S. I have only one question about it. Will they manage to release season 2 in 2027, or will it definitely be 2028?
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XMAN2YMANApr 15, 2026
+224
And this is why this show will not be the hit it should be. There’s no good reason why this show should take 2 plus years between seasons.
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Pretend_Spray_11Apr 15, 2026
+37
I don’t know how you get all the way to the release of the season finale of a show and still be in the early days of writing the next season. What have you been doing?
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NoNefariousness2144Apr 15, 2026
+69
I didn’t even bother watching season 1 when I heard season 2 was going to take another 2-3 years to release. I’m so tired of getting into a season and then waiting forever for the next part and losing interest by the time it comes out.
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SakanaSanchezApr 15, 2026
+32
It especially doesn’t help when they come back and all the magic from the first season is gone and half the cast has visibly aged. I mean Pluribus was novel enough I’ll hold a candle for it, but this huge break nonsense isn’t a good sign.
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Open_SeekerApr 15, 2026
+14
Often its not the shows fault, the network or platform is to blame. But this time it is. The show was a hit from the start, broke apple records for streaming, apple gave it a huge f****** budget to start with AND didnt they even order 2 seasons right away?
And then you have Gilligan saying oh well, these things take time, we're not even done writing yet, and it just sounded like he couldnt be arsed to actually hustle on this. I guess success gave him too much leverage, and Apple let him do what he wanted.
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grantedtoastApr 16, 2026
+2
It’s past that, show was booked for two seasons off rip writers knew a second was coming before they finished writing season one much less filming it. Why on gods green earth you wouldn’t try to get as close to back to back filming as possible is baffling.
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OrphasmiaApr 15, 2026
+13
Yeah. Something like Pluribus I feel shouldn’t even be that intensive/expensive to make either, unless the storyline gets really supernatural.
Season 1 was a lot of people just walking around and driving, people turning lights on and off, and a lot of extras walking around doing choreographed stuff lmao.
Which when I put it this way man was the writing truly spectacular.
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SigniferenceApr 15, 2026
+2
If they had waited any longer to release the final Stranger Things season, Millie’s daughter could have played her in flashbacks.
2
throw0101aApr 15, 2026
+4
> I didn’t even bother watching season 1 when I heard season 2 was going to take another 2-3 years to release.
I've been doing this with book series for a long time as well.
I initially gave up on *Wheel of Time* in the late-90s/2000s because (a) the books were slow, and (b) long time between between them. Of course Jordan passed; once Sanderson finished things off I ended up going back to them and finishing the series (meh), mostly because I lean towards being a completionist. That policy has served me well (e.g., GRRM).
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Mister-Distance-6698Apr 15, 2026
+5
There was never more than a year or two gap between any of the WoT books, except for a 4 year pause when Jordon died.
That's pretty reasonable for a book series.
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EagleLizeApr 15, 2026
+2
I have to rewatch the first season right before the next season comes out. Maybe that's their plan all along?!
2
misterterrific0Apr 15, 2026
+8
They really should have had s2 half written at the very least before s1 aired
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Express_BathApr 15, 2026
+3
Especially for a show like this one were there are a lot of mysteries and questions, and the challenges faced by the main characters are so extreme that there are not many way you could solve them.
Like, tell me you did not write ahead the next season of a sitcom, sure. But in this case, I am a bit wary.
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ButtPlugForPMApr 15, 2026
+8
Exactly
There is almost Zero vfx work
Post production should be a breeze as it's an estabilished crew that worked on better caul saul most of them
Apple should of made sure vince had season 2 wrote down before they even thought of releasing season 1
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GertrudethecuriousApr 15, 2026
+24
1000%
They knew S2 was commission and apparently already knew the multi season arc that the show would take.
So make the f****** series.
Anyway, I'll do what I did with stranger things. Watched s1, then waited until just before final series came out to watch the other season.
Or I'll just not bother.
Frankly it's disrespectful to viewers to treat them like this. (Rant over lol)
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Dudu_sousasApr 15, 2026
+4
The reason being they are making it up as they go, the writing is the bottleneck
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NoExcuse4OceanRudnesApr 15, 2026
+1
They had to write it, start production and then start filming.
1
Squidhijak75Apr 15, 2026
+1
Apple shows have insane gaps between seasons, it might not be their fault
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RektwApr 15, 2026
+1
Hey man, filming all those mundane empty shots of New Mexico and Rhea Seehorn driving or sitting around doing nothing takes a lot of time.
1
__Hello_my_name_is__Apr 15, 2026
-2
As long as the show gets to run its course, as intended, I don't care how long it takes.
-2
Humble_Review2008Apr 15, 2026
+3
If the show had a course they wouldn't be still writing season 2. They have no idea what to do beyond Season 1 and are just making it up.
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NoExcuse4OceanRudnesApr 15, 2026
+2
All TV shows are just made up.
That's the definition of fiction.
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__Hello_my_name_is__Apr 15, 2026
+1
That's how it worked for Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul. And that turned out amazing.
So I am all for it. Please, Vince, keep making things up as you go along!
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mrgrafixApr 15, 2026
-1
I don’t get why people complain about slop, then are impatient with masterpieces. You can’t get fast c**** and good and that would just be a baseline show.
-1
Dudu_sousasApr 15, 2026
+12
Is Pluribus a masterpiece? And, before streaming, almost all shows were yearly releases and we had multiple masterpieces.
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Nother1BitestheCrustApr 15, 2026
+1
I think it is. I watched season 1 three times in one month.
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CouldnotbehelpdApr 14, 2026
+37
Definitely 2028.
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krectusApr 15, 2026
+15
This really reads like a trolling hivemind quote. Lol.
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ButtPlugForPMApr 15, 2026
+7
I HIGHLY doubt it's starts filming in the fall.
apparantly vince only just finished up season 2 episode 2 draft in march .. if he's that far behind it's a LONG time till this is ready to shot.
Maybe Very back end of Q4 maybe..even then that's still at earliest 2028 till release
Season 1 wrapped filming in september 2024.. and still didn't release till a year later.
This is 100 percent on vince and apple..and every streamer needs to stop f****** doing this
A show from the creator of 2 of the Most critically acclaimed series of all times..
should been lit for 3 seasons off the bat.. and season 1 and 2 should been filmed back to back so they both in the can
they should of made sure vince had season 2 ready to go
Apple makes Great f****** tv but these 3 year waits drive customers away
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Conscious-Quarter423Apr 15, 2026
+3
insane since pluribus was given 2 seasons when they greenlit the show
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ButtPlugForPMApr 15, 2026
+2
there really is zero excuse for it
this show is an awards darling,but all its momentum will be lost because it's going to be 3 years till we see it again
the pit can somehow release 15 episodes every year and keep its quality..yet other shows cant..
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NoExcuse4OceanRudnesApr 15, 2026
+1
The pitt has no storyline
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ConfessingToSinsApr 16, 2026
+2
Yes it does lmfao
The storyline this year is mental health, Robbie and his issues, etc
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WischiwaschbaerApr 18, 2026
+1
Vince seems to be somebody who needs a hard deadline to get any work done. So maybe with the fall date set he'll now be able to crank out scripts.
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ButtPlugForPMApr 18, 2026
+1
John wells who does the pitt actually speaks on this really well.
That if u don't have HARDLINE.
EPISODE 1 needs to be in friday 5pm..Even if it's a draft or ur out of the writers room..
that many writers just keep umming and ahhing they need it to perfect..when good is good enough
seems to work considering how many shows he has ran and writen for.
They need to not give writers so much "freedom"
I want season 2 done in 180 days or we don't green it.
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Janderson2494Apr 15, 2026
+4
If they finish filming by the end of this year I don't see why we can't get it next year around the fall or Winter
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gramferApr 15, 2026
+9
Silo's crew sends its greetings. It's another show on Apple. They finished filming season 3 last May, almost a year ago. They have already finished filming season 4, because they decided to make both final seasons back to back.
Yet we haven't seen anything promotional about season 3, we don't even know the release date, except a few actors' misspokes. According Steven Zahn, they are going to release it on July 3rd, it's the best case, and it's not even guaranteed. So we will have at least 14 months in post-production on Apple TV.
Season 1 of Pluribus was shot from February to September 2024. However it was released in November 2025. So it had been for 7 months in production and for 14 months in post-production in Apple TV too. So let's say they are going to start filming this September, it means they may drag filming until March 2027 and post-production until May 2028 putting it inside the Emmy window.
Can they do it sooner? I don't know, that's what I hope for and that's why I asked the rhetoric question here.
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WischiwaschbaerApr 18, 2026
+1
Post production on silo is obviously going to take a lot longer than Pluribus. Though why it takes more than a year is still a mystery. Maybe Apple doesn't want to release it yet for some reason.
1
Conscious-Quarter423Apr 15, 2026
+1
you are in an emmy window any time of the year
1
gramferApr 15, 2026
+2
Not really because of the recency bias among voters. I mean they are people physically and biologically, so they are imperfect and have limited memory, can act under specific emotions at the specific moment of the vote and so on. That's why HBO used to premiere its best shows in March/April, so voters wouldn't forget it and media would be still discussing it. It still happens, there are more chances for the show to be released in Spring, if the network/streaming service bets on it.
October and November is a lesser thing for the Golden Globes. Like, yeah, it's too far from the release to the Emmy vote, but we can try and get some nods or even Globes themselves, then, maybe, some other awards (for example, from guilds and/or Critics' Choice awards), so the show will be keeping momentum at the time of vote (June-July).
The same thing happens to Oscars, that's why studious usually release their "prestige" movies in November or December in the last several decades.
2
Mavericks7Apr 15, 2026
+1
I get that season 1 being filmed on its own makes sense as you don't know if the show will be a hit or not.
But season 2 and 3 need to be filmed back to back.
1
ymorinoApr 15, 2026
+44
I will see you all in 2028 🫡
44
gramferApr 15, 2026
+10
That's a realistic, albeit a brutal scenario, considering fate of season 1. Season 1 of Pluribus was shot from February to September 2024. However it was released in November 2025. So it had been for 7 months in production and for 14 months in post-production in Apple TV too. So let's say they are going to start filming this September, it means they may drag filming until March 2027 and post-production until May 2028 putting it inside the Emmy window.
10
the_fate_ofApr 15, 2026
+5
What I can’t square in my head is the business model.
It benefits the streaming services to have the shows dropping with speed and regularity, not randomly every few years.
You’d think they want to retain subscribers every month. Time is money etc.
5
ishityounotdudeApr 16, 2026
+1
Apple loses about 1 billion on streaming annually.
1
mad_cheese_hattweApr 15, 2026
+98
If you are going to have a very slow paced season with no real finale resolution other than the chance of someone interesting about to happen next season then you should have a smaller gap between seasons.
98
Low-Astronomer-7009Apr 15, 2026
+28
Yup. I liked the first few episodes, but once I realized it was going to the open ended finale followed by the who knows when another season will happen, I found it hard to care.
28
New-Independent-1481Apr 15, 2026
+25
The entirety of Season 1 should have been like 4 episodes.
25
cereal7802Apr 15, 2026
+8
smaller gap would have required them to have written another season. Seems they had nothing for a season 2 and now they need to work out a filming schedule, then editing.... Is a very haphazard show this one.
8
protekt0rApr 15, 2026
+34
It might just be me, but…
I do hope for more plot exposition in the next season. Sometimes Vince draws out scenes and stories a little too long… seasons 2 & 3 of BCS were especially boring at times. Pluribus has that feel to it with character exposition.
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Death_BingeApr 15, 2026
+12
The answerphone message scenes got old fast.
12
FalconBurchamApr 15, 2026
+29
I felt like some scenes were too long, but I did enjoy some of the lengthy scenes other people said they didn’t like. For example, when Manousos was traveling across various terrains it reminded me of how much I love our planet and what length I’d go to remove the invaders off our planet too. It cemented Manousos’ resolve to me.
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pizzamaztazApr 15, 2026
+7
This sequence is absolutely gorgeous.
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FalconBurchamApr 16, 2026
+1
Yeah! I felt so relaxed as he walked through the forest I almost forgot he was in danger. I could watch that whole sequence on a loop
1
Weakera5 days ago
+2
Yes, and also it showed his incredible will and determination and passion to fight the hive mind. He seems the least corruptible of them all.
I also loved the long scenes of Carol trying to enjoy herself, by herself, golfing, going to galleries and fine dining, setting off fireworks, but ultimately going crazy ... this needed to be long and drawn out, like manousos' journey, to make us feel how time feels to them.
This show is high art, though I don't think most realize it. It has so much hidden meaning.
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FalconBurcham5 days ago
+2
Exactly! We had to go with Carol and do all the things we think we’d be happy doing in her situation, like chucking golf balls into windows, to see we’d eventually feel empty and alone too. It reminded me of Phil in the show The Last Man on Earth (which I have to think influenced some parts of Pluribus!). Phil did everything Carol did and more, but he wound up in a similar place as Carol.
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Weakera5 days ago
+1
Mulligan has created something so humanly complex here, because Carol is miserably lonely, yet the only real relief she gets is Zosia--who is the hive mind!--yet she can't succumb to them, and she can't get along with any of the actual humans left!
What a choice! Like Manousos asked her, "So do you want to save the world, or do you want the girl?" It's actually extremely funny.
Over in the Pluribus sub, there's so much bitching about the pacing, and other criticisms of the show, and not nearly enough appreciation. I ordinarily don't go in for post-Apocalypse or sci-fi, but this transcends genre, you can project so many different meanings on to it.
I just finished it last night, and have read a fair bit of what Mulligan had to say. He wanted the meaning to be very open-ended, he apparently did not have AI or American politics in mind (though those are the two most common takes on what it's actually about). I like to think of it as kind of similar to Invasion of the Body Snatchers, or Stepford Wives, but with seemingly benevolent "body and soul thieves."
haven't seen last Man on Earth. Will have to check it out.
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FalconBurcham5 days ago
+2
I haven’t read the Pluribus sub yet because if it’s anything like the White Lotus sub, I don’t think I’d last long through the complaints and posturing. Haha
I happen to love post apocalyptic SF, but I’ll admit it’s been stale for a long time. Pluribus is genuinely the most engaging and interesting SF show I’ve seen in years! Even the “boring” parts are fun because it’s boring with a purpose, like when Carol has to sit through the pre-recorded phone message half a dozen times. I feel as exasperated as her! I’m also a married lesbian, so this show hits differently for me than most shows. If I lost my wife, would I really become so lonely I’d be vulnerable to Zosia even though her “people” killed my wife? Would I think my wife is in the hive somewhere maybe…? I had weird apocalypse dreams after every single episode I watched of Pluribus! 😂
I wasn’t sure if you had seen The Last Man on Earth, so I didn’t want to spoil how Phil unravels as the first one or two episodes unfold, but the show is really worth a watch! It’s a dark comedy, like Pluribus. It is post apocalypse, but it’s not dark and gory like Fallout or twisty nonsense like Foundation or simply bleak like Silo. Will Forte is excellent in it! I think the show is still on Hulu.
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Weakera5 days ago
+2
I loved White Lotus as well. Orange ISTNB and breaking Bad were my top binge shows till then. The OITNB sub drove me nuts, all I could think was "these people don't deserve this show." I didn't like the Slow Horses sub either (that was the previous binge I was in "recovery" from, when i found Pluribus--it was very good but PLuribus is next level.)
Yes the phone messages! I mean who can't relate to that robotic voice we all have to listen to almost every time we call somewhere corporate ... how they "care." The show unpacks so much societal hypocrisy that is here and now, I think that's part of its genius. It's about conformity at core, right?
So I'd love to hear from you in particular (I wanted to ask this question on the sub, but dreaded in advance the stupid answers I would get):
Why do you think Mulligan made this character a lesbian? I know why he made her a "historical romantic fantasy" author--I mean that was just too good, and I guess being a lesbian, that opened up the conversion backstory, which fits so well with what is happening to her now, to intensify its meaning ...
but any other reasons?
I also love this plot detail--she asks Larry (I think he name was Larry) if Helen REALLY liked her writing--obviously she had suspicions to even ask--and the answer wasn't pretty. But then she finds out Zosia actually loves it! It's so wonderful watching her fall for Zosia, I knew that was coming on first sight of her, she was chosen to appeal to helen as we know, resembling her male hero, Raban,--who was really female in Carol's mind. Ingenious!
I will also add i can relate to carol on so many levels it's not funny.
Well I think I'll start rewatching now. I'm dumping Apple in a few days.
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FalconBurcham4 days ago
+1
I loved the first few seasons of Orange is the New Black! I thought White Lotus was weird as hell until about half way through the first season, then I was obsessed! I finally understood what it was up to, but that show is really hit or miss with people, isn’t? My wife can’t stand it. She hates the awkward moments in it. Eh. I really need to go listen to Parker Posey say “lorazepam” a dozen more times… I loved her so much in the last season!
Why is Carol gay… hm, I saw an interview where Vince Gilligan said he had worked on the concept of Pluribus for about ten years and that the lead character in his mind was male. He said he rewrote the part for Rhea Seehorn specifically after working with her on Better Call Saul because he loves her work.
So cynical lesbian me says he made Carol gay because he doesn’t know how to write heterosexual women in love. Basically, it might be easier for a straight man who has only written male protagonists to relate to a woman in love with a woman than it would be for said man to relate to a woman feeling the loss of her husband.
But charitable lesbian me says he wrote Carol as gay because he wanted to lean into the “otherness” all gay people feel, even when we’re included, because we are a small minority group. If you’ve never been really been fully part of a human hive, then it’s easier to resist an alien hive because you’re always aware of your difference and you value that difference. “We want to be one mind, one people!” is to erase all differences, including the difference that makes Carol who she is and who she was with her wife. I really felt that resistance when she told the other still-humans at that lunch that they were all traitors to humanity. It’s almost like the aliens are telling her to be straight. 😂
I think Manousos’ resistance is based on principle (the wrongness of colonialism) and a broader love for the whole planet and all of its natural beauty and complexity. I don’t think he has any humans to miss and mourn, so his revulsion must come from a different place.. I had to include a bit about Manousos because I love that character so much! His resolve is unflappable. If he folds in season 2, I will be heartbroken. 😭😂
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Weakera4 days ago
+1
Bravo. I think there's truth in both your cynical lesbian and charitable lesbian takes.
We could certainly feel her "Otherness" with the real humans at lunch, (I just rewatched that, it's grueling, and i want to kill Laxmi) but I'm not sure that was based on her lesbianism--most were clinging to their partners/families, in some kind of denial about what had happened, fearful to resist; then Diabate who wanted to take advantage of the situation with all those Barbie dolls, but Carol is more outraged simply as a human, for all that has been stolen. This is actually like Manousos; they fight but they are coming from the same place. It will be interesting to see how they deal with their differences (political analogies abound here, I'm thinking of the soft left and the far left, hehe).
I don't think he'll fold.
And I don't think the aliens are telling her to be straight--they sent her Zosia knowing exactly what effect that would have on her.
Well I'm glad i found a real human to discuss this with. I stupidly made a thread on the PLuribus sub, asking a simple plot detail question, and i got all kinds of a****** replies, I should have known.
I thought White Lotus Seasons 1 & 2 were incredible, Season 3 not so much, but still OK. Parkey Posey was divine in it.
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FalconBurcham4 days ago
+2
Great reading of the lunch scene! I’ve only watched the show once, but I think I’m due for a rewatch. I agree about Carol and Manousos needing to work out their differences. If I remember correctly, Manousos tortured one of the Others and Carol stopped him. Emotionally I was on Manousos’ side, but I know Carol was right. We can’t lose our humanity! But I also don’t want to.. like.. literally lose humanity, so.. haha
It’s not so much that I think the Others are trying to make Carol straight as much as they want to make Carol lose her difference, a difference that has always set her apart from larger society but is an important part of her identity as a human being, you know? She strikes me as strongly American more than anything. Remember that scene of her on the airplane, making her case with the American seal (was it a flag?) behind her? A little obvious, but I liked it!
Koumba really annoyed me at first, but I’ve grown to like him. I think he has shown a measure of tenderness and care for Carol. He’s not a total psycho! He also didn’t insist on Zosia accompanying him (a situation that made my skim crawl—I was right there with Carol!). I wonder if he might even come through for Carol and Manousos in the end… even a pretend playboy must eventually get bored.
And yes, Listnook is a funny place.. these shows like Pluribus, White Lotus, Severance, etc. are so multilayered and complex people can have multiple valid readings, but a lot of Listnook folks posture so much over the One True Reading. So tired! I like the tv sub tho 😀
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Razor1834Apr 15, 2026
+2
Nothing will happen in season 2, like nothing happened in season 1
2
ranhaltApr 15, 2026
+5
What would count as “happen” to you?
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standreadApr 15, 2026
-4
Transformers blowing each other up while Hans Zimmer blares at full volume. A fifth bud light in his hand while the other is dusted with a layer of cheeto.
-4
Technical-Outside408Apr 15, 2026
-3
Big badaboom
-3
daninlionzdenApr 15, 2026
+2
I remember the nursing home scenes in better call Saul were brutal
2
gooner712004Apr 15, 2026
+1
Some of you have never seen a Tarkovsky film before lol
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Mavericks7Apr 15, 2026
+1
I was really lucky. By the time I watched BB and BCS they were all out so I binged watched an episode every day.
But when I spoke to my brother who watched them as they came out, he did mention how some episodes were just long or drawn out.
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protekt0rApr 15, 2026
+1
Yeah I watched most of BB binging and all of BCS while it aired. Your brother’s right… waiting a week between episodes with a very slow moving plot was excruciating at times. I almost gave up on the show in season 2. But I’m glad I didn’t… final season is (IMO) a masterpiece.
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RedducerApr 15, 2026
+23
The pacing was not very good.
The whole thing could have been a single episode of The Twilight Zone.
I am not looking forward to more of the same.
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GertrudethecuriousApr 15, 2026
+21
It is disrespectful to viewers to expect them to just endlessly wait. It never used to be this way.
I liked s1 but the finale was not a cliff hanger and was weak.
Honestly think I might be done with this show. Shame. Could have been a fun annual watch.
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__Hello_my_name_is__Apr 15, 2026
+1
How is it disrespectful, exactly?
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GertrudethecuriousApr 15, 2026
+9
the viewers are the ones who are the ones spending money paying to see these series. Making the audience wait for years for new series is really treating them poorly when we know that it's possible to produce new series annually, even big budget tv series (a few years ago, it was common for a 22-24 x 1 hour ep season to come out once a year) - we used to do it for years but when streaming started, things changed.
I personally think it's treating viewers poorly when producers make them wait for 2-3 years for a follow up series - but specifically Pluirbus because (a) second series was commission before S1 was shown so they have had plenty of time, and (b) Pluribus is so low key in terms of filming and VFX so there is no practical reason for it to take so long. They basically have under 5 core cast members.
Personally, I resent having to wait multiple years, I lose interest and forgot plot points.
And I work in the TV film industry.
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__Hello_my_name_is__Apr 15, 2026
-3
If you work in the TV film industry, you know why they don't do 24 episodes per year per show anymore. You cannot possibly not know that and feign ignorance on the subject like this.
And if you feel disrespected by TV shows not being available quickly enough: Only watch them when they're done with all seasons. Problem solved.
-3
YelloeisokApr 15, 2026
+3
It is crazy that the original Perry Mason filmed 30+ episodes each season from 1957-1966 for 9 years straight.
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GertrudethecuriousApr 15, 2026
+2
you're talking bollox.
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Good_Thought1738Apr 15, 2026
+1
I’m about to give up on Apple’s Neuromancer show. I’m the target audience but there’s no way I’m going to wait two years to watch it, watch eight episodes, then wait another year or two for eight more episodes. Better to not get invested in the story in the first place.
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GertrudethecuriousApr 15, 2026
+1
This is why I love Only Murders In The Building - fun show, loads of celebs, shot in NY, LA, London etc and one series per year.
That's how you make TV series!!
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jogoso2014Apr 15, 2026
+12
Good. Glad it’s actually happening
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IntoTheMusicApr 15, 2026
+8
They just want to help.
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OHHHHHHHHHH_HES_HURTApr 15, 2026
-1
But nothing really happens in the show
-1
jogoso2014Apr 15, 2026
-2
If that’s the case, I want a lot more of the nothing.
-2
Tobias---FunkeApr 15, 2026
+12
This should have been a film.
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Piligrim555Apr 15, 2026
+2
It would be extremely disliked as a film, because films usually need some kind of resolution in the end. Pluribus Season 1 just sorta stops. If it was a midseason episode people wouldn't even assume it was intended as a season finale.
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Tobias---FunkeApr 15, 2026
+11
I meant the whole show not just season one.
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ScoopieApr 15, 2026
+3
4 years later....
3
dwarftosser77Apr 15, 2026
+8
A two year wait just for VG to stretch another two episodes worth of content into an entire season.
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taylorpilotApr 15, 2026
+9
I always read the title of the show as plumbus
9
peteheheApr 15, 2026
+6
I always wondered how those got made
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0melettedufromageApr 15, 2026
+3
First they take the dingle bop and they smooth it out with a bunch of schleem. The schleem is then...repurposed for later batches.
They take the dingle bop and they push it through the grumbo, where the fleeb is rubbed against it. It's important that the fleeb is rubbed, becasue the fleeb has all the fleeb juice.
Then, a schlami shows up, and he rubs it...and spits on it.
They cut the fleeb. There's several hizzards in the way.
The blamfs rub against the chumbles, and the...plubis, and grumbo are shaved away.
That leaves you with...a regular old plumbus.
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DoomsdayIsHere69Apr 15, 2026
+6
Can’t wait to not continue watching this show after a 2.5 year break between seasons. Modern Hollywood certainly knows how to kill hype
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The_SchnitzApr 15, 2026
+4
You can never trust a Plurb
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SoGnarRadar4Apr 15, 2026
+2
I really hope something happens in Season 2.
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homogenic-Apr 15, 2026
+2
So if the filming will start in fall this year maybe we can expect season 2 to come out in late 2027 maybe early 2028?
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Dorsai_ErynusApr 15, 2026
+3
Second half of season 1 you mean, they didn't solve anything for it to be called a season.
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Annual-Analyst8771Apr 15, 2026
Hopefully it won’t be boring af because man that first season was ROUGH. Basically 2.5 episodes of plot and the rest felt like someone sniffing their own farts
0
StatementCareful522Apr 15, 2026
+3
I’m so glad people like you don’t get to make television
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MeyerholdsGh0stApr 15, 2026
I mean, have you seen some of the c*** they put on TV? I would say there are plenty of producers with exactly this mindset.
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Annual-Analyst8771Apr 15, 2026
+1
Ok.
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chrispy145Apr 15, 2026
You're allowed to move on with your life if you don't like something.
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Annual-Analyst8771Apr 15, 2026
+1
I’m also allowed to express my opinion about something. You’re allowed to move on if you don’t like/agree with my opinions
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chrispy145Apr 15, 2026
K.
Then I'll answer the question : the popular show will not "improve" into something you want it to be, and you even asking for that is childish. Move on with your life.
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Annual-Analyst8771Apr 15, 2026
-1
Thanks for the unsolicited feedback even though I don’t remember asking anything…
-1
chrispy145Apr 15, 2026
+2
If you don't want pushback for things you post, then don't post to a public forum. Save it for your diary. This isn't your personal safe space
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Annual-Analyst8771Apr 15, 2026
+1
Jfc guy leave me alone. I didn’t ask for your opinion nor did I “ask a question” that you felt the need to answer and you can keep it to yourself. I thought I made that clear in my previous comment
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chrispy145Apr 15, 2026
+2
Then stop engaging in a public forum if you don't want feedback or discourse. Go yell in a cave. That's what it sounds like you crave.
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LunchyDude101Apr 15, 2026
+1
I couldn’t get halfway through the first season because I really came to hate Carol.
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YelloeisokApr 15, 2026
+1
I keep waiting for word that ‘Drops of God’ gets renewed.
1
VirginiaLuthierApr 15, 2026
+1
💕Rhea Seehorn💕
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BenRandomNameHereApr 16, 2026
+1
I wonder who will care in 3 years when season2 premiers?
And do they not know people age?
What would happen if an actor *died*? Kills the whole show. No way to write their way out of that corner, since it isn't on.
1
Krow101Apr 16, 2026
+1
I'm getting sleepy already.
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MistakeMaker1234Apr 16, 2026
+1
Damn, people really hating on this show in this thread. I liked it a lot. I think VG and Co. do a great job of representing the outrageous in a really interesting, almost subdued way. The scene of the South American girl getting converted was particularly great, even though the camera work and imagery were pretty basic. The undertones of the situations are always the most fun elements of his shows. Breaking Bad and BCC had some many excellent examples of this.
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BaloozApr 18, 2026
+1
“Yawn!”
Everyone is past this
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samwise542Apr 15, 2026
+1
No thanks. I'm out on these shows that want to take years for a follow up season. TV used to have 23 episode seasons YEARLY. Now they shoot 7 episodes and "We will see you in four years"
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Mavericks7Apr 15, 2026
+1
It's a testament to how good the show is, that people are angry that season 2 is ages away.
Hoping they film season 2 and 3 back to back.
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Even_Choice_1003Apr 17, 2026
+1
People are angry that the show is too slow
People are also angry that season 2 is too far away
Big bravo to Vince
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Salt_Sherbert5313Apr 15, 2026
+1
too slow....not for me...
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nicknack24Apr 15, 2026
+1
I loved this show but I guess I'm in the minority. It's a drawn out hypothetical that had plenty of neat ideas every episode while doing great character work. It's not really intended to be plot heavy which is understandably always hit or miss with most audiences; I get the feeling most people want a fast-paced "save the world or else" story, but there are plenty of other shows that serve that premise.
1
Squidhijak75Apr 15, 2026
+1
I also loved the show. The only time I felt it drew too long was the episode of Carol driving back.
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