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News & Current Events Mar 31, 2026 at 10:29 AM

Poland says ‘no’ to sending Patriot missile launcher to help US fight Iran

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Poland rejects sending Patriots to help US fight Iran
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Poland rejects sending Patriots to help US fight Iran
Warsaw bought the systems in 2018 for $4.75 billion.
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Particular-County277 Mar 31, 2026 +6128
Nobody wants those patriot systems out of Poland more than Putin
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spidereater Mar 31, 2026 +2373
Exactly. I find it hard to believe the US has a shortage of launchers. This seems like a massive red flag, if anyone needed more, that Trump is helping Putin.
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TheRedSkittle Mar 31, 2026 +978
This is exactly what it is. Curious that they don’t ask Japan - an actual manufacturer of Patriot Missiles Launchers.
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ThatPhatKid_CanDraw Mar 31, 2026 +438
After that gaffe about surprise attacks? Lol
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t_Lancer Mar 31, 2026 +329
you seem to think the US cares what other countries think of it. They'll ask and when Japan says no, the US will respond with "we didn't need your help anyway, just like in WWII!11!11"
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sirspate Mar 31, 2026 +183
Japan won't say no, they'll say it's a bit difficult..
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Enough_Breadfruit229 Mar 31, 2026 +56
Isn't the leader of Japan some ultra conservative Trump lover who was just at The White House laughing at Biden's autopen portrait? Sounds like the country you'd start with when asking for said devices vs Poland unless you wanted them for more nefarious reasons.
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SFHalfling Mar 31, 2026 +124
It's a joke based on Japanese culture being indirect. If a Japanese person tells you something is a bit difficult they mean its not going to happen.
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Vanviator Mar 31, 2026 +60
Inshallah means 'if Allah wills it.'' Depending on tone of conversation, that could be an enthusiastic yes or a hard no, but was generally an indicator of some delay. I worked with a handful of Iraqi contractors. It didn't take me long to figure out that Allah was more willing when you bring snacks and hang out for tea, lol. And we genuinely became friends. It was nice.
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couldbemage Mar 31, 2026 +3
Yes, of course, we'll get right on that, but I can't give you a firm delivery date.
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samarnold030603 Mar 31, 2026 +13
We’ll be on WW11 by the time this f***** kicks it 🤦‍♂️
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DesireeThymes Mar 31, 2026 +14
I'm waiting for the request from Trump that Ukrainian soldiers join the front in Iran after US soldiers come back in body bags.
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Efficient-Parking627 Mar 31, 2026 +22
Sanae Takaichi is conservative and a lot of her policy positions overlap with trump. Doubt she really cares honestly.
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Beer-Milkshakes Mar 31, 2026 +18
Because Japan will day "We'll stick to the already established deadlines, thanks though"
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Relevant_Money_8185 Mar 31, 2026 +58
Or, even worst, where is the tax payers money being spent? The worlds biggest military spender suddenly has no patriot systems? Wait, What?
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Jukka_Sarasti Mar 31, 2026 +27
>Or, even worst, where is the tax payers money being spent? Steak and Lobsters for Kehgsbreath and his cronies, oh and nearly a 100 billion in ["grants and contracts"](https://www.newsweek.com/pete-hegseth-spent-millions-steak-crab-legs-lobster-report-11658295)
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fdesouche Mar 31, 2026 +15
Apparently the US 2026 military budget had an order for 47 Tomahawks to be delivered this year, but they already used 850 in four weeks. Not the best at planning
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My_password_is_qwer Mar 31, 2026 +6
With all these precious, slow to recoup assets spent in a futile war of choice in middle east... Sure hope PLA doesn't see this as a golden opportunity move on Taiwan.
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shinzanu Mar 31, 2026 +25
Along with so many others
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Dry_Departure_7813 Mar 31, 2026 +27
Yeah weird ay, Trump starts a war that fucks over the oil supply of all his allies, then lowers russian sanctions so they can sell more oil at the inflated price. Then keeps insisting they need all those weapons in europe for their conflict.
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Wompatuckrule Mar 31, 2026 +22
The Patriots are a stupid solution to a self-created Trump problem. The Iranian drones cost an estimated $20,000-30,000 each to make and they have plenty of them. Combating those with a Patriot missile that costs $4,000,000 for each shot is not sustainable.
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Smalahove1 Mar 31, 2026 +4
US has used like 60% of their ammo THAAD missile system. So much for the "Golden dome" around USA. Soon even North Korea has enough nukes to saturate american defenses if US keeps dropping stocks like this. And North Korea might just do it for the "lulz" thats the scary part.
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Ferelar Mar 31, 2026 +12
Going from "Largest military budget by an order of magnitude, bloated by all the money we decided not to spend on our citizens" to "Oops all gone" in less than a month is inconceivable. If it IS true, then every single person needs to demand a full accounting for where every last goddamned dollar went over the years.
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AK_Panda Mar 31, 2026 +4
Tbf there's been people saying for quite a long time that the shift from high numbers of reliable weapons to low numbers of hyperexpensive weapons might be good for PR but is terrible if you suddenly need to fight any protracted conflict. There's no real way to suddenly ramp production up by orders of magnitude unless you are also literally paying for factories and workers to be retained and idle. Lockheed signed a deal *this year* to increase production patriot missiles from 600/year (in 2023 it was 380) to 2000/year over the next **7 years**. Looks like the current goal for tomahawks is to boost capacity by 10x. That's gonna take a f****** while too. The low levels of production mean you aren't making anything cost effectively, productivity ends up being shit and costs are f****** huge because there's no real reason to make heavy capital investments just to make a couple of something a year.
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Jackadullboy99 Mar 31, 2026 +8
Trump is deliberately helping Putin destroy America and the West.
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Ryuuffff Mar 31, 2026 +21
Neither they need help against iran, this was all a way to help russia, trump wanted to lift sanctions and drag europe to the war
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Syring Mar 31, 2026 +4
Scary we would even contemplate asking
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kaisadilla_0x1 Mar 31, 2026 +78
It is actually crazy. The US is burning their stockpile as if it won't have consequences. If the war doesn't end soon, and the US keeps spending so much elite equipmente in this war, we'll enter unprecedented times where the world knows the US doesn't have enough weapons left to wage war. btw, if anyone's interested, the reason why the US is burning their stockpile, it's not because the US suddenly doesn't have guns, but rather because they've been using high-tech weapons worth millions to fight $20k drones in Iran - a move that proves the US has rested on its laurels and hasn't adapted to modern warfare, and that the people making the decisions right now are outright stupid.
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AK_Panda Mar 31, 2026 +4
The US has been shifting more and more into bespoke, high tech munitions since the GWOT kicked up. Low production rates, but good PR. Problem is obvious, but in a world where the US no longer fights conventional wars and instead is engaging in low level counter insurgency where maximising precision is important it made sense. Turns out there's a bit of an opportunity cost if you aren't mass producing this stuff.
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TiggTigg07 Mar 31, 2026 +87
Oh God yes! This seems so much like a POOTIN wish list item.
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chunmunsingh Mar 31, 2026 +53
US has been shown it's place.
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_raydeStar Mar 31, 2026 +11
I'm beginning to think this is the real end game. Start war somewhere else --> gather coalition --> oops, out of resources --> Putin waddles in drunkenly on the back of a polar bear If this is true, his goal would be to extend the war as long as possible. If this were true,Putin would aid the losing side, no matter which side that is.
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FugDuggler Mar 31, 2026 +16
gonna be a win-win for Putin. Trump's gonna use this to justify pulling out of NATO
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alba_Phenom Mar 31, 2026 +6
I think Trump is colluding with Russia in the background to launch an attack on Europe and he’s laying the groundwork for it now.
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Civil-Dinner Mar 31, 2026 +2919
The way the Trump has bullied and insulted nearly every country in the world, the US better get used to hearing the word "no" from other nations when it comes calling with its hat in hand.
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quaste Mar 31, 2026 +388
More importantly, Poland and the EU has an active thread in the east they need the Patriots for, **that could be over if Trump had some decency to do the right thing** > Our Patriot batteries and their armament are used to protect Polish skies and NATO's eastern flank
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Red_Dox Mar 31, 2026 +92
Trump defying his master is just not in the cards. Hence basically as most of us suspected, once that orange turd got into office [US support for Ukraine dropped almost to zero](https://www.kielinstitut.de/publications/news/ukraine-support-after-4-years-of-war-europe-steps-up/).
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Chillers Mar 31, 2026 +497
It will likely be from now on too. The pedestal the US sat on is gone for good.
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jocax188723 Mar 31, 2026 +266
The US is currently sitting on a diffferent kind of stool.
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Glass-Amount-9170 Mar 31, 2026 +50
Depends
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Ropeleading Mar 31, 2026 +35
Stool sample?
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Mutchmore Mar 31, 2026 +29
Nah he got elected
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WhatAmIATailor Mar 31, 2026 +14
And sits in his own stool
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draculajones Mar 31, 2026 +4
In MAGA America, stool sits on you!
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blodgute Mar 31, 2026 +28
Pedal stool?
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ContentsMayVary Mar 31, 2026 +38
Pedo stool more like.
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DharmaBird Mar 31, 2026 +8
Jen, is that you?
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kaizokuj Mar 31, 2026 +5
I mean it's all a bit of a damp squid
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severinoscopy Mar 31, 2026 +13
Well now they really sound like a damp squid.
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DharmaBird Mar 31, 2026 +10
They feel like yesterday's jam.
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kingofcrob Mar 31, 2026 +34
As an Australian who currently refuses to buy any American products where there are alternatives, I think you guys can correct this, but you need this clown out of there to begin the mending.
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F3z345W6AY4FGowrGcHt Mar 31, 2026 +24
They also need to fix their checks and balances so something like this can't happen again. The world will remain skeptical of America as long as its foreign policy can swing wildly, to the point where previous deals mean nothing, every 4 years. America voted for this, *twice*. Does anyone really think they won't vote for it again? Even if they vote for change, they'll forget why in a week or two and then the next election will be the same nonsense it always is down there.
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ohboymykneeshurt Mar 31, 2026 +35
Absolutely. Thing will likely get better when Trump is gone but the US has destroyed it’s allies trust for decades.
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Chillers Mar 31, 2026 +48
For a generation... and thats still dependent on the US not electing another corrupt billionaire pedo... I know that might be hard for them.
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Thagyr Mar 31, 2026 +57
As an Australian I wouldn't trust the US until the current Republican party starts talking like human beings and less like ancient internet trolls. And even then I'd wait maybe a decade or two later. Trump is the representative of the whole rotten core, but he isn't the only source. Everything he is doing now he isn't doing alone. He has a whole team of corrupt fuckheads right behind him.
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coolcoolcool485 Mar 31, 2026 +10
He is a symptom of a huge cultural problem here. Anyone that thinks him leaving will be the end of it doesn't understand the core issues.
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obeytheturtles Mar 31, 2026 +10
Yeah this is where I am as well. No quarter for fascists, and it will require a period of *sincere* reflection by any Trump supporters before I am willing to Trump them again.
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DonnieTheYowie Mar 31, 2026 +30
I'm not sure about that. I don't think Americans realize how far they have lost the public support of all these foreign nations they have insulted. You're president representing you as a country accused the British of having "toy" naval ships and said the troops were hanging back a bit from the front lines in Afghanistan. The convenient sound bites that have the fox news crowd drooling also package nicely as tabloid headlines, which is something a British ex soldier is likely to see.
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BestFriendWatermelon Mar 31, 2026 +8
> the troops were hanging back a bit from the front lines in Afghanistan Exactly. Unfortunately lines like this have "truthiness" to them... a term coined by Stephen Colbert meaning: *the belief or assertion that a statement is true based on intuition, gut feeling, or personal desire, rather than on facts, evidence, or logic*. The idea that NATO troops stayed back away from the front lines sounds true if you don't really have any idea on the subject but think the USA is the best. Of course we led the way, of course our cowardly dumbfuck allies come waddling along behind us showering us with praise while refusing to do any lifting. That widespread belief in such absurd claims only demonstrates what a lost and hopeless country the US has become will sail far over most Americans' heads.
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eggybread70 Mar 31, 2026 +12
Certainly for any prez with an (R) after their name. Although I suspect there will be a high level of distrust even if a Democratic manages to get in.
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foul_ol_ron Mar 31, 2026 +25
It's been made abundantly clear that there's always a potential for chaos a maximum of four years in the future.
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eggybread70 Mar 31, 2026 +9
You're right, of course. How can a nation trust a country that at any election cycle could have another trump in charge.
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Low_Witness5061 Mar 31, 2026 +20
I mean, why wouldn’t they? This president has proven that he will break deals he himself signed and a large number of Americans, and almost all republican politicians, cheered. So it stands to reason that even a deal signed by a Democrat may as well be written on toilet paper since republicans may just casually wipe their asses with it when they get in next. I wish I could be confident that Americans would learn from this and be better but they only needed 4 years to forgot how bad trump was.
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Big_Department4209 Mar 31, 2026 +13
Given the natural yoyoing of American politics where a sitting president eventually gets an adversarial Congress and Senate from the other party, I really don't see how having a (R) or (D) along the president's name changes anything. In the end you have the (R) party always there to take power, either in the executive or legislative, and it's abundantly clear that those will always work to undermine anything from the (D) side, including international relations, causing as much damage to (D) no matter the consequences to the country is their playbook for almost 20 years, so belief that the USA can be trustworthy is absolutely gone, no matter the party of the sitting president. Your political body as a whole is rotten, the GOP has no qualms about using whatever lever they can to undermine the Dems, the Dems are corporate-stooges-lite and by being bound to the same financial interests that power the GOP they can't ever be a true tough opposition. Maybe in a generation some big political shift can happen to start to fix this but for the foreseeable future it will be just more of this, 1 step forward, 2 steps backwards.
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KingofFools3113 Mar 31, 2026 +6
It's actually pedestal, but your point still stands.
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jwely Mar 31, 2026 +176
The United States is speed running *all* the factors that lead to the dissolution of the Soviet union. Right down to the fact that member states are making alternative agreements with each other where the federal government has proven to be inept. The democratic "health alliance" that has sprung up to replace the sabotaged department of health is a growing foundation of America's Alma-Ata protocol.
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LaserKittenz Mar 31, 2026 +62
Join the Canadian empire! We got healthcare, cannabis, and butter tarts.
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Academic-Contest3309 Mar 31, 2026 +25
I don't think Canadians would be very happy about Ihat
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Laszlo-Panaflex Mar 31, 2026 +32
The Republic of New England will join our brothers to the north.
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EnvironmentalCut6789 Mar 31, 2026 +8
> butter tarts He prefers the term 'bottom-bitches'.
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randomguuid Mar 31, 2026 +78
Americans gonna really struggle with that.
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IDreamofHeeney Mar 31, 2026 +163
Amercians are barely aware there's a world outside their country. And the ones who do acknowledge rest of the world think we all look up to them like some kind of god. When they realise the rest of us dont like them, its gonna be a massive shock lol
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Likeapuma24 Mar 31, 2026 +60
As an American, I actually love that the rest of the world is telling us to shove it. We deserve it. Been a bully for far too long, with far too few consequences. Might get really shitty for us, economically, in the coming decade. And we have no one to blame but ourselves.
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Klutzy-Residen Mar 31, 2026 +42
Don't worry, everyone else will also suffer economically with you.
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SearcherRC Mar 31, 2026 +21
I was stationed in Japan. When I visited the states people asked me if I learned to speak Chinese and were shocked when I told them that the Japanese and Chinese hated each other.
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ImranFZakhaev Mar 31, 2026 +24
I love that joke in King of the Hill. "So are you Chinese or Japanese?" "Laotian." "The ocean? What ocean?"
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Future_Onion9022 Mar 31, 2026 +9
Yeah outside your japanese fanatics your average ppl dont even aware China and Japan has beef and let alone what beef they are on. (China WW2/Pride and Japan territory/theft) Im Chinese that dont have beef with Japan but alot of American i know just say "Why dont another chineses just move on from Nanking Massacre". Its like telling Jewish to move on from Holocaust
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jakreth Mar 31, 2026 +39
Also, Poland may need it in the near future
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Dooby-Dooby-Doo Mar 31, 2026 +21
Poland may need help from the US in the future, but can they trust that help will be there and be authentic? Just check out how Ukraine was played by the US to stroke Putins ego. Poland, like the rest of Europe, needs a European military that is not dependent on some far away superpower.
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lukashko Mar 31, 2026 +18
I think he meant the Patriot.
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Modo44 Mar 31, 2026 +6
We have more reliable allies in Europe. If some US military gear purchases fall through because of this, even better. We've been sucking on that t#t too much.
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crowwreak Mar 31, 2026 +15
I don't know, Trump has a habit of not paying attention when people are saying "NO"
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coolcoolcool485 Mar 31, 2026 +7
U.S. Americans truly believe that they don't need the help, that our military is dominant. Until something meaningful happens to challenge that narrative, it won't matter to them
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ATangK Mar 31, 2026 +16
Shame to any country who assists US/Israel now.
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Random_user_of_doom Mar 31, 2026 +16
I think it also plays a role that this war is against international law. EU/Nato supported US in Afghanistan despite knowing this is a pointless and expensive shit show. But this is so wrong. No one likes the regime there but there are rules to be followed, and US is just abandoning all convention. This won't stand.
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Imaginary-Ad-7919 Mar 31, 2026 +9
US-Israel started this war. They can finished it. Of course NATO and their allies say no to Trump.
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veevoir Mar 31, 2026 +1016
Even putting aside US behaviour against allies or NATO lately.... Poland is rn bordering with a war against their mortal enemy - Russia. And bordering with Belarus which is basically a russian colony, a country that russia already used as a staging ground for attacks. It has very few Patriot batteries. They are not some extras in storage, they are all in active use deployed around the most critical targets. What answer was expected?
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vonGlick Mar 31, 2026 +243
Sir, this is greatest proposal of all times, we are sending all our patriots and all virgins available in our country.
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P2029 Mar 31, 2026 +86
Act now and receive a Donald Trump commemorative coin that may or may not be legal tender
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DesireeThymes Mar 31, 2026 +34
Up next: "The US "unofficially" requests all Ukraine troops be diverted to Iran to fight on behalf of Israel" In other news, Putin completely annexes Ukraine.
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Herbata_Mietowa Mar 31, 2026 +51
Any logical thinking person know what would be the answer. But, for Trump it can be a fuel for his h******* maga shills. "See, we asked NATO country for help and they rejected time and time again! We have to leave NATO! I will create the best alliance in the world called UNITED STATIONS!!!"
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veevoir Mar 31, 2026 +31
You might be right, this is the actual reason for this ask. They do expect a "no" - and it is for internal propaganda needs. Especially that MAGA bets on polish president (and his party) as an ally and makes polish government into an enemy - so this also plays into that narration.
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ars-derivatia Mar 31, 2026 +60
>Poland is rn bordering with a war against their mortal enemy - Russia. And bordering with Belarus which is basically a russian colony Poland actually also borders Russia itself.
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veevoir Mar 31, 2026 +47
Technically correct. Realistically - the ~~Královec oblast~~ Královecký Kraj is a small enclave that has strategic importance for Russia as an interceptor missile base, but is not a good attack "vector". Not only it is surrounded by Baltics but also by literal Baltic. Which is Lake NATO by now. We are more worried Russia will use Belarus to stage an attack towards the oblast, through so-called Suwałki gap.
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notanolive Mar 31, 2026 +13
It was stupid and tactless to even ask Poland
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MagnificoReattore Mar 31, 2026 +193
Putin's asset is working extra to weaken Europe's border. Another senseless war, another distraction.
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k4kkul4pio Mar 31, 2026 +22
Indeed. Distractions and deflections, that's all they can do cos stopping and admitting to the fact that the administration is utterly incompetent would be a look even Faux News and the usual asskissers would have trouble spinning.
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VanCityPhotoNewbie Mar 31, 2026 +347
Remember what just happened to the Swiss who order the patriot missiles and now the F35. They essentially redirected the missile launcher to other military initiatives and then delayed the order by 5 years, so the swiss paused payments and now it is uncertain whether it will even happen. Then in response the US delayed their F35 delivery indefinitely, essentially took the money for the F35 and redirected it to the Iran war. So the swiss are now unsure of "when or what timeline" they will recieve any F35's...... So the US is literally spending Swiss money on the Iran war and in return the Swiss isn't getting their money back and are unsure when or if they are getting their military hardware. Just knowing they are not getting it in the required time. Now Europe is going "wtf...." because if the Swiss isn't getting their orders in time, what about the rest of their orders?....the world is going to stop buying US systems if they know that whenever the US enters a military conflict, they will redirect the military hardware for their own personal war
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GeshtiannaSG Mar 31, 2026 +123
Maybe countries will do cash on delivery with the US in the future.
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SparksMKII Mar 31, 2026 +36
Should pay them cash in Yuan so then they can pay the conversion rate themselves as well at this point.
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LaserGuidedPolarBear Mar 31, 2026 +84
Trump is very effectively ending the proliferation of US military hardware throughout the world and especially in Europe.  This "coincidence" is extremely "convenient" for Russia. We have to ask ourselves yet again: If Trump was a Russian asset, what would he actually do differently? Nothing.  He is already doing it all.
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Havre_ Mar 31, 2026 +29
Switzerland is welcome to buy Gripen, Eurofighter or Rafale.
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Elukka Mar 31, 2026 +7
But that's the point here: Europe suddenly cannot rely on the US for anything and has to replace everything in their militaries from American small arms to the most advanced American SAMs with European versions and this is happening in a matter of a few years in an industry where procurements take 10 years. For many products those alternatives either don't exist or the comparable production capacity doesn't exist. Europe has to move away from the US due to national security and the only real issue is a massive rush pace at which its going to happen.
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Sacaron_R3 Mar 31, 2026 +8
In August 1914 the United Kingdom simply decided to keep the Battleships ordered by the Ottoman Empire for itself, even though the Ottomans were still neutral at that point. Later the brits and their allies tried to take control of the Dardanelles straits, but they got repulsed by the ottomans and took heavy losses in their Gallopoli campaign. The UK back then had been the dominant power for a long time, but that power was waning. It still showed the same absolute arrogance that had worked in its favor for centuries, like attacking neutral state denmark in 1801 and again in 1807, to neutralise its navy. Right now we can see the USA speedrun through the UK timeline.
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Jancappa Mar 31, 2026 +6
Basically doing what North Korea did to Sweden
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wggn Mar 31, 2026 +5
North Korea was building F-35s for Sweden?
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Skylair13 Mar 31, 2026 +12
North Korea imported around 1,000 Volvo 144s from Sweden in the 1970's... and never paid the bill.
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Zalvren Mar 31, 2026 +9
European counties should have stopped buying American stuff a while ago already
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mvw2 Mar 31, 2026 +126
Trump has this weird habit. He keeps asking people to do things that explicitly benefits Russia. It's nor even a fluke. It happens a lot, almost constantly in fact. I'm sure there's no reason behind this at all.
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PaperDistribution Mar 31, 2026 +528
I thought the US is the biggest and best military on earth, but they can't even handle Iran without trying to drag everyone into it?
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eni22 Mar 31, 2026 +209
So much for a country thats supposed to be able to handle two big war stages at the same time.
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Warrius Mar 31, 2026 +60
that \*was\* supposed. since the end of the cold war the US stopped being able to conduct major combat operation on multiple theatre. insurgency yes. Not all out wars.
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Ass4ssinX Mar 31, 2026 +4
I don't think they ever officially backed off from that stance, though. That's still the reason that comes up when you complain about the military budget.
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huhwhuh Mar 31, 2026 +38
They could handle 2 wars at a time if the president was not a lying 2 faced paedophile scammer.
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somethi Mar 31, 2026 +12
Might be a good thing then, the last thing the world needs is any country handling 2 wars at a time.
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Ryan_e3p Mar 31, 2026 +40
Turns out pissing off all of our allies, threatening their economies and threats of taking their land "one way or another", firing all of the people in the military who know what they're doing because they won't swear fealty to the crown, and putting a drunk weekend talk show host in charge of the military *wasn't* the best idea after all. Who could've seen this coming?
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rayjaymor85 Mar 31, 2026 +42
Dude, even Australia was catching strays over this. Never mind the fact that we're literally on the other side of the f\*\*\*ing planet, and we're rapidly running out of fuel over here so chances are in 3 months we won't even have planes running at all...
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ShakespeareStillKing Mar 31, 2026 +31
I'm seeing more and more paralells to Suez. - Empire is sending troops to secure a vital world economic chokehold to show everyone they're still the world leaders. - Shock and awe tactics work out to some degree. - Empire still fails to secure long term objectives and political goals. - The world tells Empire this was a pretty bad move, you're on your own. (We are here now) - Empire realises without allies the war is too costly and can't stay. - Empire goes home with a loss of face they would never recover.
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resipol Mar 31, 2026 +18
* Leader of Empire resigns. We can f****** dream.
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JJ82DMC Mar 31, 2026 +6
You can have it and still lose if the people in charge of planning/strategizing it are complete morons.
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AIFocusedAcc Mar 31, 2026 +11
I know right. The other day they were griping about not having enough missiles. Like wtf?
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SparksMKII Mar 31, 2026 +15
They've even had a war game in 2002 (Millenium Challenge) where they didn't like that the red force (Iran) commander was winning so they called it cheating because he wasn't supposed to use unconventional tactics.
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dMestra Mar 31, 2026 +4
It wasn't unconventional tactics, it was using tactics that were physically impossible, like using motorcycles to deliver messages at the speed of light
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Sudden-Fisherman5985 Mar 31, 2026 +17
That's the funny thing about the USA... They train by saying:"we are the best, better let us win otherwise we won't play anymore". Even last year the finnish special forces destroyed the USA special forces to a point where they were asked to "take it back a notch" lol. Also plenty of stories of submarines who sink USA aircraft carriers in training... The problem with the usa is they think they are the best. And overestimate themselves
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Photonforce Mar 31, 2026 +8
It's all the politicians and higher ups that f*** everything over sideways. There's a lot of brilliant minds in play. Like the Marine general who ran the red team war game in 2002 for example.  Sensing a pattern here, it's always the morons in higher positions be it governement, or coporations that f*** everything up. 
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FriedrichAepril Mar 31, 2026 +134
EU reallly needs a self produced Patriot equivalent, best would be to not get any US stuff anymore
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waarts Mar 31, 2026 +129
SAMP/T. Italian/french system by MBDA and Thales. They're ramping up production.
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Thurak0 Mar 31, 2026 +46
And [IRIS-T](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRIS-T) is currently developing missiles against hypersonic ballistic missiles as well. So yeah, Europe tries to replace the Patriots with its own systems and I am 99% sure European governments will buy systems not depending on the US in the near future.
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Esplodie Mar 31, 2026 +16
They are also changing out American engines from their grippens. It looks like countries are trying to source their military hardware anywhere else, but that kind of shift is slow. If I was a DoD contractor, I'd be pissed. Trump killed their foreign market.
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dimwalker Mar 31, 2026 +32
The whole trump thing is the best promo for in-house EU defences.
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SparksMKII Mar 31, 2026 +12
If the EU does produce an equivalent I propose we call it the Trumpet
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ryan30z Mar 31, 2026 +31
Charles de Gaulle was about 80 years ahead of you.
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besna Mar 31, 2026 +11
Last two video from perun (Global Arms Export 2025 & How will the Iran War Reshape Arms Exports?) will show you that we already selling and upscaling. Patriots aren't that easy to replace, but there are coming systems, from EU and Korea, that are getting more and more wider in use.
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dbandit1 Mar 31, 2026 +43
cant believe they even asked
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MezzoSoaprano Mar 31, 2026 +50
Propaganda. They do not need these Patriot systems from Poland. But they can turn Poland's 'no' it into another "EU and NATO are bad" story. Same thing in [Italy](https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/italy-refuses-us-aircraft-use-sicily-base-middle-east-operations-source-says-2026-03-31/). US requested permission for an aircraft to land in silica but purposefully didn't let Italy know ahead of time what's on the plane or its destination. They only told Italy about it when the plane was already about to land. Too late for any appropriate approval/oversight and Italy had to refuse landing permission. No way that this didn't happen purpose. They know Italy's laws. Now they can make it another propaganda headline "Italy not helping US! Why we defend Italy in NATO????" Edit: [France](https://www.independent.co.uk/bulletin/news/trump-france-planes-airspace-iran-war-b2949219.html) and [UK](https://uk.news.yahoo.com/trump-warns-uk-us-won-113125510.html) too. All three (and many more) openly refused participation in this war weeks ago. And yet the Trump administration just *has to* try to use exactly these countries for their war. All it yields is angry tweets of Trump to paint EU countries as the bad guys. It serves no other purpose than being used as anti-EU propaganda and/or pretext for further tax threats, NATO drop out, trade cuts. What a day...
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shugo7 Mar 31, 2026 +76
No one has united the world more than Trump recently. Everyone is telling him to f*** right off. This is amazing
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Kaya_kana Mar 31, 2026 +25
If we have any to spare we send them to Ukraine. If Trump wants to play terrorist in the middle east he can deal with the consequences himself.
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aussie_shane Mar 31, 2026 +26
The world is just reacting like a friend group reacts to that friend that goes out and gets into fights or creates chaos every single time you organise a good night out. The US at the moment is that friend that constantly ruins a good evening out by creating "unnecessary" drama and gets annoyed when you finally decide, enough is enough and you refuse to bail them out anymore. We all have had that one friend once in our life. It's bloody tiresome.
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ImpressiveGift9921 Mar 31, 2026 +67
Interesting idea. I think it looks fine where it is though.
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Brilliant_Version344 Mar 31, 2026 +167
The us wants Europe to shoulder the burden for European security well those patriots are for European security
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MercantileReptile Mar 31, 2026 +20
When even *Poland* denies a US request, Washington done messed up. Good for the neighbours, though. Warsaw has been buying Arms all around the Planet for a while. May it serve to keep them free and outside the whims of orange Kings.
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Appropriate_Value122 Mar 31, 2026 +18
Trump told Europe for a year that he didn’t need them for anything and they are content at this point to watch the immature crybaby ruin the USA that stupidly elected him twice.
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pattymonger Mar 31, 2026 +19
Why are we asking for help and thinking about a draft for a war we already won 5 f****** times at this point. Where is the f****** 700 billion a year going to that we need all this support already? Gold toilet seats? We look weak as f*** with this administration. Secretary of War my ass. F****** guys are a gaggle of clowns.
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Minute_Role_8223 Mar 31, 2026 +16
already seeing some muricans cry about why the world is turning their backs on em deserved, the whole world need to start punishing usa back to their corner
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zeuseason Mar 31, 2026 +12
This is a ploy by Trump to weaken Poland for Putin.
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czs5056 Mar 31, 2026 +12
Why would Poland give them up? Trump is known to not honor his side of agreements.
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garyvdh Mar 31, 2026 +21
Awesome, well done Poland! US be like "why does nobody love us anymore?"
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FineScratch Mar 31, 2026 +11
This is what happens when you negotiate in bad faith and assassinate the leaders of a country you are negotiating with in a sneak attack. The us is gonna be a pariah state before this is all said and done.
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Ivanow Mar 31, 2026 +16
Poland used to be most pro-USA country in the world (with net favorable rating of like +84%), by a large margin (I think only Israel was even comparable). Literally more Polish citizens liked USA than Americans themselves did. What Trump&Co managed to accomplish over past few years will be studied for years to come.
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TheGreatStories Mar 31, 2026 +10
Today on "what would America do DIFFERENTLY if they were working for Russia"
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kentuckywildcats1986 Mar 31, 2026 +9
Any EU country with arms to spare should send them to Ukraine - to fight against the *real* threat.
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Mach5Driver Mar 31, 2026 +9
did they add "LOL"? I would.
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Cinerir Mar 31, 2026 +8
Also Trump said multiple times that the US will not help if allies are attacked. So why would you give weapons away? You need every bit.
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Creative-Mode-6097 Mar 31, 2026 +6
Good no help to US , they give a shit to our problem with Ukrain . He turn his back and supply Putin instead that a****** .It,s playback time .That,s all
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Vaiden_Kelsier Mar 31, 2026 +10
As an American: *Good.*
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CorporateCuster Mar 31, 2026 +8
Yeh. Let’s go ahead and send all weapons in nato to help fight Iranians and leave everyone free to get blasted by china and Russia
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fleshtomeatyou Mar 31, 2026 +8
Yes, that's how it feels to get abandoned Trump! You ditched Ukraine and Europe. You headed straight into that mess without consulting any of the allies. Now choke on it.
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Hakaisha89 Mar 31, 2026 +9
Poland been buffing up, and prepping for a war against Russia for quite a few years now, helping Ukraine fight Russia is one thing, but helping US help Israel fight Iran, does not align with Polands plans.
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pyalot Mar 31, 2026 +14
Since the US destroyed 10 years worth of patriot production in a few days shooting at plywood drones that Ukraine would‘ve taken down for nearly free, it‘s quite clear that for all intents and purposes whatever patriot systems you still have at hand, are the only ones you‘re gonna have for decades, and it would be quite stupid to give them to the US.
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rollingPanda420 Mar 31, 2026 +6
Why should anyone help pedo land?
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b3iAAoLZOH9Y265cujFh Mar 31, 2026 +9
Imagine you outright buy an extremely expensive luxury car from a dealership. Cash on the table. You do the paperwork and drive off in your car. Then one day, the guy who sold it to you calls you up and asks if it'd be all right if he came by and picked it up "just for a month or two" because his daughter in law is in town and needs a loaner and he's fresh out. What would you tell him?
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Delicious-Ad5161 Mar 31, 2026 +7
Anyone else feel like this is all a Russian ploy through Trump to get Europe to waste munitions on Iran so they can invade?
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ApoBong Mar 31, 2026 +7
People might forget already with the 24hr news cycle, but Trump admin mocked the NATO's involvement in Afghanistan, I don't see how you could reasonably expect any ally to join you now.
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AggravatingAd4758 Mar 31, 2026 +6
I don't know if you guys missed this, but the US is discussing taking the money we gave them to buy missiles, and just keeping it for themselves.
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RespectTheTree Mar 31, 2026 +6
Don't we have any cards? Maybe a thank you card?
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Alternative-Ad-1027 Mar 31, 2026 +5
Empire comes and goes. Empire is destroyed within. Now it is American turn.
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LEEALISHEPS Mar 31, 2026 +6
Good for Poland.
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HardSteelRain Mar 31, 2026 +5
We spend trillions on the military and after a couple weeks of war we need to beg for missiles from other countries? Sounds like an audit is needed
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Tokyo-MontanaExpress Mar 31, 2026 +5
No Patriot missiles for pedophiles! 
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NoBSforGma Mar 31, 2026 +5
So happy to see all these countries who are NOT going along with the demented war of Trump. And just keeping what they need to do for themselves.
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captain-lowrider Mar 31, 2026 +5
poland stands strong .
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Micha_mein_Micha Mar 31, 2026 +5
You need to solve your own problems on your own. Btw, can you help us solve the problem we needlessly caused?
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DrolligerDorftrottel Mar 31, 2026 +35
Good thing Poland just denied SAFE and invested intensively into US tech. More stuff to 'voluntairily' provide.
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veevoir Mar 31, 2026 +22
It didn't though. Polish president did veto a bill that was intended to order some matters related to taking part in SAFE on the polish side of things (like anti-corruption controls or being able to spend the money in a more flexible way), but taking SAFE or not is not dependent on it
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Beneficial_Trick6672 Mar 31, 2026 +8
but he didnt know that. I mean this president is an idiot and was proclaiming he is denying SAFE.
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Elegant_Emu952 Mar 31, 2026 +14
Thank you, Poland!
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Dry_Bullfrog2344 Mar 31, 2026 +4
It's a very good decision for Poland.
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Jemelscheet Mar 31, 2026 +4
On the same day Italy refuses the use of Sigonella. Somebody is losing friends fast.
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mrjibblytibbs Mar 31, 2026 +5
Good, keep it right where it is and pointing at Putins face.
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KittySharkWithAHat Mar 31, 2026 +3
Poland might kinda need that.
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ghostfan72 Mar 31, 2026 +4
Remember Trump saying he could end the Russian invasion of Ukraine with one phone call. What a dumbass. Yeah, no one is pull resources from Ukraine or EU when Putin is now replenishing his war chest with Trumps’ relaxation of Russian oil sanctions THE ART OF THE DEAL!!! 🤣🤡💩
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cornmonger_ Mar 31, 2026 +4
pulling *anything* out of poland right now is f****** stupid
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Germanhammer05 Mar 31, 2026 +4
And why the f*** should they, this entire debacle is squarely on Trump's shoulders no other nation is obligated to help fix this f*** up.
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ClacksInTheSky Mar 31, 2026 +7
Oh, of course Poland wants to send it's missiles to the US when Russia is threatening to invade it. What a splendid idea. Why didn't the Poles think of it before?! Maybe they can get the US to swap the missiles for some f****** red carpet and a big "WELCOME VLADIMIR" sign? I'm sure there's a few kicking around a Mar-a-Largo.
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CrisisActor911 Mar 31, 2026 +7
How it started: “F*** NATO F*** EUROPE, MAYBE WE’LL JUST STOP PAYING NATO. MAYBE WE’LL JUST LEAVE NATO. F*** ALL OF YALL, YOU BITCHES ATENT OUR PROBLEM.” How it’s going: “Help us fight an illegal war of aggression that could start a World War to distract from the Epstein files? UwU 👉👈”
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Mone132 Mar 31, 2026 +10
"When asked by Rzeczpospolita if Warsaw had come under pressure from the US to supply the batteries, spokesman for Poland’s Minister of National Defense, Janusz Sejmej, said: “The Americans are not pressuring us in any way on these matters.” " Feel like it's Important to include this for the people who don't read the article
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rayjaymor85 Mar 31, 2026 +3
To be somewhat fair, Iran could have been the ones that provoked it and everyone rushing in to help, and I \*still\* wouldn't begrudge Poland this one. Poland would be psychotically stupid to remove ANY of their weapons right now.
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vincedarling Mar 31, 2026 +3
When Eastern Europe the most gung ho American allies usually on that xontinent is going NAH, Trump fucked up
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WesternCrafty1223 Mar 31, 2026 +3
Trump has made all the allies not stand with US. How much one leader has to screw up to end up like this. 
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large__farva Mar 31, 2026 +3
Oh man one of the american right’s favorite countries lately, they’re gonna love this lol
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Nitsude Mar 31, 2026 +3
Uh oh now even Poland cant be pointed as the "good" euro country for the MAGAts
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Working_Resource_852 Mar 31, 2026 +3
It’s almost as if Europe isn’t cool with war hungry wanna be dictators, I wonder why
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nonanonymoususername Mar 31, 2026 +3
Everything about this helps Russia… can’t arm Ukraine cuz need stuff in Middle East , have to relax Russia sanctions cuz of the problem I caused with oil in middle east, need to make Poland easier for Russia etc etc
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joedotdog Mar 31, 2026 +3
US drags NATO into ME. NATO is now weaker. Russia moves west. US does nothing. Israel consumes Lebanon, but everyone is watching Iran. China makes moves to Taiwan. US does not defend. I think that's the idiot in charges marching orders at least.
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dbxp Mar 31, 2026 +3
If he US really wants them they could do a deal, might be a good deal for the US. A couple armoured regiments and maybe a fresh batch of Bradleys and Abrams for Ukraine in exchange for a patriot system. Maybe draw down the Apache stock to deliver them to Poland ahead of schedule?
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drifting_signal Mar 31, 2026 +3
Why does the US need 'help'? Don't they boast being the largest, best equipped military in the world?
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Free-Supermarket-516 Mar 31, 2026 +3
Why does the highest spender on military assets, by a large margin, need any help at all?
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2beatenup Apr 1, 2026 +3
Spain… no Italy…. No Poland…. No Well…
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