Funny because it feels a lot like the 30’s geopolitically.
296
BrockVegas2 days ago
+90
Never going to pass up a chance at posting this....
[1933](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QWmnBcNijvo)
90
Cavscout28382 days ago
+17
Dude, that song is awesome. I’ve never heard it before but its sound fits so perfect with what I love. Thank you.
17
Alone-in-a-crowd-12 days ago
+6
I fully agree - immediately added it to my library.
6
mcslackens2 days ago
+2
Frank Turner & The Sleeping Souls is one of the best live shows you'll ever attend. I'll even put a money back guarantee on that one.
I'm somewhere in the crowd in [this video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI-o1S9FJl8), but in the darker areas off to the side.
2
AbominableCrichton2 days ago
+5
There's a song? I just wasted three minutes watching someone do a terrible drawing of a house in silence.
5
Away_Ear_25292 days ago
-23
You mean all the people chanting death to the Jews? Probably you don't.
-23
Alone-in-a-crowd-12 days ago
+9
To feel like the 30’s doesn’t mean it has to be exactly the same as the 30’s . There are just different actors and victims today. When they remake a movie decades later, they don’t typically cast the same actors.
9
TheEasySqueezy1 day ago
+1
Who’s saying that? Are you confusing Zionism and Judaism? Aren’t you a useful little idiot.
1
Away_Ear_25291 day ago
+1
[ Removed by Listnook ]
1
Osiris321 day ago
+1
Well, they aren't the loudest voice, but that is one of the voices of hatred, yes.
1
grey_hat_uk2 days ago
+19
I can taste the woolworths pic & mix while waiting for leaves to be removed from the rails.
19
Stereo_Jungle_Child2 days ago
+20
and the 60's, 70's, and 90's.
20
GrouchyPerspective832 days ago
+3
Retro is a thing now so...yeah
3
grogi812 days ago
-23
Make UK Great Again!
-23
HI16812 days ago
+66
the more things change the more things stay the same
66
reddit_ending_soon1 day ago
+11
Boundaries shift, new players step in, but power always finds a place to rest its head.
11
Fallouttgrrl1 day ago
+2
Humanity. Humanity never changes.
2
Teresa_Grapefruit2 days ago
+87
Authorities responding to reported explosion have heightened security measures in the area
87
Interesting-Risk64462 days ago
+194
I thought this shit was over. People are morons.
194
dexter_sinister2 days ago
+174
Brexit brought some Troublesome issues back to the fore.
174
J0hn_Keel2 days ago
+101
It’s kind of been bubbling in the background the entire time, there have been hundreds of bombings in Northern Ireland since 2000, albeit usually on a smaller scale than what we think of when we think “bombings” and there being some years when there’s not been many. Been to Belfast a few times in the past 15 years or so due to having family there and it hasn’t been totally unusual to hear about petrol bombs and stuff on the radio. I was quite surprised the first time because it doesn’t seem to be reported very much in England, which is quite striking really because a single bombing anywhere here would be massive news. I think we like to pretend that the whole issue has been neatly tidied away.
Not disputing your comment at all though, Brexit hasn’t helped on any front so I am entirely unsurprised that it has antagonised this aspect too
101
Charlie_Mouse1 day ago
+5
> because it doesn’t seem to be reported very much in England,
Never underestimate how much England prefers to remain ignorant of what’s happening in other parts of the U.K. like Scotland or Wales … and that goes doubly so for Northern Ireland.
Also note how often they and the UK media invariably conflate what England wants with “what the UK wants”.
Yet they always act both surprised and aggrieved that there are growing independence movements in Scotland and Wales and reunification in NI.
5
Hellstorm9012 days ago
+9
Nothing to do with Brexit, the IRA has never actually went away and has still always been operating under different names to provide plausible deniability while looking for any excuse to cause chaos. The UK never left the EU until 2020 yet in 2019 journalist Lyra McKee was murdered after an "New IRA" gunman opened fire on police lines during a riot hitting her
The riot which broke out that she was covering had nothing to do with the EU or Brexit
9
Top-Engineering-20512 days ago
+64
No, no. The IRA did go away. The IRA signed up to the Good Friday Agreement. A minority of Republicans did not sign up to the GFA and formed splinter groups with 'IRA' in the title; Real IRA, Continuity IRA, etc. These dissidents, as they are known, are opposed by the Republicans that led the IRA, who pushed for peace.
64
SoftlyGyrating1 day ago
+20
It's basically the same thing that's been happening since 1922.
When most of the Old IRA became what is now the Irish Defence Forces, a minority became the Anti-Treaty IRA.
The Anti-Treaty IRA split into two groups in 1969. By 1972 the majority 'Official IRA' had declared peace, but the minority 'Provisional IRA' kept going.
Then in the GFA, the Provos made peace and a minority group broke away as the 'Real IRA'.
I've no doubt that if the New IRA ever sign a peace agreement, there'll be yet another split. It's just how it goes.
20
Feeling_Age50492 days ago
+18
Yep. The UVF/UDA didn't go away and are now just drug dealers.
18
woodpaulusgnome1 day ago
+1
And loan sharks preying on their own communities.
1
BobBlawSLawDawg1 day ago
+1
You mean the IRA weren't the only shitty ones?!
1
Lirael_Gold1 day ago
+11
PSNI were gutted a few years ago because half the force were working with/for various northern irish criminal gangs (some of which are *also* committing partisan violence against Catholic/Protestant communities, but that wasn't really their focus)
Since that anti-corruption sweep, the PSNI has been able to start *trying* to deal with organised crime in a way that it wasn't able to for the past 20 years.
I assume these bomb attacks are related to that, and aren't the work of a resurgent IRA (mostly because the IRA itself no longer exists as a cohesive movement and the various groups using it's name are drug dealers/arms smugglers/human traffickers with little political legitimacy)
11
Vio_2 days ago
+17
It's a thousand times better and gets a little better every year.
It's not that it's over, but the fear and actual fighting and reprisals and turf battles is getting less and less.
Sometimes something will flair up occasionally, but overall everyone there pretty much never want to go back to where it was before the Good Friday Peace Accords.
I've been there and have realtives there too. Even things like large streets and highways are now open to basically everyone. 25 years ago, someone from the wrong community would immediately get shot just going down it's then it was possibly shot, and now it's basically not going to happen unless something kicks off first
17
eunderscore2 days ago
+8
There have been some very vocal and popular exponents of the anti imperialist message in recent years, who have used IRA imagery to promote themselves. People will be feel seen by that.
8
locoforcocothecat2 days ago
+8
Social media has been "glamourising" extremism, this shit was inevitable unfortunately
8
alexmikli2 days ago
+5
Watch as this turns out to be a tesla or something off the wall like the Albanian mafia.
5
Stereo_Jungle_Child2 days ago
+92
Let's hope The Troubles aren't back.
92
MarketingSpecial66042 days ago
+64
Everywhere else is going to shit, might as well join in and open old wounds.
64
BobBlawSLawDawg1 day ago
+7
They're all old wounds. All that's happening in America right now is old wounds too.
7
evhan551 day ago
+2
Always has been 💔
2
canada4322 days ago
+54
England and Wales kinda reignited them by yanking Scotland and NI out of the EU. For NI especially this sucks because created a huge issue that didn't exist before. Previously there was free movement between ROI and NI as part of the Good Friday agreement. When the UK was part of the EU, that's no big deal. But now, NI isn't part of the EU, but ROI is. So there's no good way to have an open border there, because goods and people crossing it are crossing into and out of the EU. There can't be a way for people to fly into the UK and then just walk across the border and enter the EU without any form of EU customs like that. So to not break the agreement, they've but the controls on anything going between NI and Britain. That effectively makes NI part of the EU single market, but with zero input on the regulations it's subject to.
Honestly, I'm surprised we haven't already seen more violence. Brexit has been an absolute clusterfuck because things like that weren't even considered.
54
bbbbbbbbbblah2 days ago
+31
> Previously there was free movement between ROI and NI as part of the Good Friday agreement.
Freedom of movement predated the GFA. British and Irish citizens have always had freedom of movement across the UK (all of it) and Ireland, and it is more comprehensive than the EU version
> So there's no good way to have an open border there, because goods and people crossing it are crossing into and out of the EU. There can't be a way for people to fly into the UK and then just walk across the border and enter the EU without any form of EU customs like that.
The NI/ROI border is as wide open as ever. You literally can walk across it. A large part of the Brexit negotiations was on ensuring that this would not change. The EU would have reason to be concerned about goods, but the UK government has made agreements to assist with that.
Movement of people is not an issue. Ireland is not in the Schengen area so all intra-EU travellers need to go through border controls anyway. The UK and Ireland are part of their own "Common Travel Area" which predates Schengen and the GFA.
The people of NI generally won't have lost any personal rights either, as almost anyone born there is considered an Irish (and therefore EU) citizen should they wish to take it up. That *was* part of the Good Friday Agreement.
Brexit absolutely is a clusterfuck, but NI is more or less shielded from it and it is disingenuous to suggest that it's going to lead to the restart of the troubles (which, if it was going to happen, would have happened already considering the referendum was 10 years ago and it finally left 5 years ago)
31
grogi812 days ago
+16
If anything, it feels like the unionists are unhappy seeing the South is going forward as light speed.
16
GiohmsBiggestFan1 day ago
+5
That's a bit reductive. You can have a much better standard of life in the north with the same amount of money. The south has it's giant corporations there for the tax benefits but you'd be surprised how little of that wealth is seen by the people, and the housing crisis there is... well basically the worst of anywhere. No free at the point of access healthcare like we have in NI, high taxes for private citizens, future uncertainty given their dependence on foreign corporate interest.
The story isn't quite as cut and dry as Irish republicans would have us believe
5
grogi811 day ago
+1
I'm pretty sure you can have even better standard of living in Argentina or Chile with the same amount of money...
The problem is to get the same amount of money.
>4.3 CONCLUSIONS
/.../ household disposable income, a reliable measure of living standards that is not distorted by globalisation effects, was 18.3 per cent higher in Ireland than in NI in 2018, and that this gap has widened over time. The data also show that in 2022 GNI\* per capita – a reliable measure of Irish domestic output – was 57 per cent higher in Ireland than GDP per capita in NI. It also grew at a faster pace in Ireland between 2015 and 2022, indicating growing divergence between Ireland and NI. In terms of wages, the data show a positive gap favouring Ireland, with hourly earnings 36 per cent higher than in NI in 2022 on a PPP basis.
That's from "Economic Overview of Ireland and Northern Ireland", April 2025. [https://www.esri.ie/system/files/publications/RS203.pdf](https://www.esri.ie/system/files/publications/RS203.pdf)
1
GiohmsBiggestFan1 day ago
+2
Oh I see, the republic entices some big tech corporations and suddenly NI is basically Chile 😂 ok
You haven't actually disputed anything I've said. The GDP/cap and GNI/cap statistics are measures of national wealth/productivity, and they don't really indicate personal standard of life well at all.
Barely relevant statistics aside, anyone who lives on the border will tell you the reality of the situation. You'd be mad to want to move to the south unless you're already relatively wealthy.
2
onlymostlydead1 day ago
+4
The Double Troubles...
4
[deleted]1 day ago
+1
[deleted]
1
dancingbananas251 day ago
+6
Okay, I guess we're just rehashing all old conflicts right now
6
psycospaz2 days ago
+40
I have a friend who lives in Ireland and he is convinced that if northern Ireland is incorporated into Ireland any time soon its going to cause a devastating insurgency. Its his opinion that that it will be made much worse by republican revenge killings. This is coming from someone from a republican family who still has family in northern Ireland.
40
grogi812 days ago
+49
Nobody wants the Northern Ireland issues. UK don't want to deal.with it, ROI doesn't want to deal with it. The state is too poor to be on its own too.
It really is a pickle 🥒
49
PanNationalistFront2 days ago
+44
The UK doesn’t want the issues it caused then turned a blind eye too. Great.
44
reddit_ending_soon1 day ago
+4
You know, if you look at history on a global scale, how much shit can you pin back on England for the past 400 years?
4
PanNationalistFront1 day ago
+12
A lot
12
grogi811 day ago
+1
65 countries gained independence from UK... That's shit load of countries...
1
Osiris321 day ago
The Holy Land, Hong Kong, America and Canada, India, and several countries in Africa.
For starters.
0
BobBlawSLawDawg1 day ago
-1
I've thought this for a long, long time. Pretty much look at any global crisis and there's some integral part that Britain has played in it. Australia, South Africa, Israel/Palestine, the U.S., and on and on and on.
-1
BJJEire1 day ago
+1
There's really no reason for them to do so especially if there's a united Ireland. Having a united Ireland won't change their ability to carry out attacks. It is however more likely that loyalist paramilitaries will cause an insurgency as they've now lost their country and "identity" if they leave the UK. Some loyalists won't let that go without a fight. If there's a rise in loyalist attacks then yes you'd be correct that we'd see a rise in republican attacks also if it all kicks off. But if that doesn't happen then revenge killings would probably not happen.
1
psycospaz1 day ago
+1
Having a need to and a desire to are two different things. While you are most likely correct about the loyalists fighting and their reasoning, there is a long and well documented history of people getting revenge when their side wins. And given some of the talk he's heard from his relatives in northern Ireland about how loyalists and other "traitors" need to be punished, I'm betting people will be doing what they always do.
1
Theelfsmother2 days ago
+18
Do the police always assume its republicans until its proven otherwise?
18
LurkingMcLurkerface2 days ago
+49
99.9% of the time, attacks on the police are Republican.
(Edit to add: loyalist violence against police tends to be riots over flags/marches/good weather/bad weather. Tends to draw out the young ones who burn out cars to block roads, burn out buses and attempt to petrol bomb police land rovers and riot police lines.)
There are still small pockets of republican terrorists that never agreed with the Good Friday agreement and show up every now and then, they shot an off duty policeman a few years ago, while he was coaching a youth football team.
They were infiltrated during a meeting and quite a lot of information was freely given to a "new recruit", who was actually undercover intelligence services.
99.9% of Northern Ireland population condemn these attacks from both extremes, have no time for it and have friends, workmates, from both sides of the community. Integration has been successful, there is a lot less suspicion of the "other".
Unfortunately, every now and then, something pops off like this attack at a police station last night.
49
bb_kelly772 days ago
+5
Car bombs are kinda the signature of the Irish Republican Army
5
SuperNobody9172 days ago
+24
Both sides used car bombs. The deadliest attack of the troubles was a loyalist car bombing
24
[deleted]2 days ago
+19
[removed]
19
GiohmsBiggestFan1 day ago
-16
Says who, you? I prefer to ask the people who live there, yank
-16
Cheesestrings891 day ago
+5
I live in the north of Ireland. I agree with their comment.
5
GiohmsBiggestFan1 day ago
-2
You're not the only one, hence the bombing. Luckily you're outnumbered by those of us living in the modern age
"North of Ireland" catch a grip
-2
Cheesestrings891 day ago
+2
It's factually correct lol, you are just annoyed because you know the union is ending. As they say Tiocfaidh ár lá!
2
GiohmsBiggestFan1 day ago
-1
Only scumbags say that
-1
Cheesestrings891 day ago
+2
Okay, speaking Irish is a scumbag thing to do? Bit racist no?
2
[deleted]1 day ago
-8
[removed]
-8
[deleted]1 day ago
+4
[removed]
4
[deleted]1 day ago
+2
[removed]
2
[deleted]1 day ago
[removed]
0
[deleted]1 day ago
+1
[removed]
1
Valuable-Shirt-41292 days ago
+4
“Suffering engenders passion; and while the prosperous blind themselves, or go to sleep, the hatred of the unfortunate classes kindles its torch at some sullen or ill-constituted mind, which is dreaming in a corner, and sets to work to examine society. The examination of hatred is a terrible thing.”
― Victor Hugo, [Les Misérables](https://www.goodreads.com/work/quotes/3208463)
4
Level_Physics86202 days ago
+5
With all the crazy shit in the world going on, we’re going to do THIS again?! Christ almighty, Just let it go.
It really seems like some humans are incapable of living there without looking for someone to hurt.
5
pnutbrutal1 day ago
+12
This is like telling Palestinians to just let it go.
12
karateninjazombie2 days ago
+3
Awwshitherewegoagaingta.jpg
3
airfryerfuntime2 days ago
+2
Remote start is about to get very popular.
2
woodpaulusgnome1 day ago
+1
I know quite a few people who didn’t hear the explosion and live about 600ft/200m from where the vehicle “exploded” they didn’t hear anything. The surrounding area was still cordoned off at 10:30 this morning.
1
Bocote2 days ago
+1
I haven't seen such a headline in years.
1
RunningPirate2 days ago
Is it the troubles again?
0
[deleted]2 days ago
-28
[deleted]
-28
theland_man2 days ago
+32
Why immediately make a connection to a completely unrelated group on a different continent? Not to mention that is just a wildly inaccurate statement to make
32
ThreeTreesForTheePls2 days ago
+14
Sounds a lot like the opinion of an American. Just saying a bunch of shit to act like they know the history.
14
AceOfSpades5322 days ago
+15
Mate this is nothing to do with American shit, they’re not even similar groups or anything
15
Lloyd--Christmas2 days ago
-29
Stupid. If they want a united ireland the quickest way for it to happen is with peace.
-29
HonestBalloon2 days ago
+7
The issue nowadays is that paramilitaries recieve a lot of money from dues on membership (and organised crime on the othet hand) either through extorting current members who want to leave, or bringing in new members. It's the usual story of a small amount of people making money from conflict.
7
joozyan2 days ago
+18
There’s been peace for 30 years. Republicans are probably not happy with the lack of movement during that time.
18
Lloyd--Christmas2 days ago
+14
The GFA made a way for a United Ireland through a vote. You don’t get people on your side with bombs.
14
joozyan2 days ago
-12
Works for Palestinians.
-12
AceOfSpades5322 days ago
+1
So they should start bombing people again? That’s a great plan mate. The people accepted the current way and made peace in the Good Friday Agreement which sets out a way for a union referendum to happen if a majority want it, there’s no oppression going on, these aren’t freedom fighters or something they’re terrorists.
1
joozyan2 days ago
-2
They always were terrorists. If they really wanted a united Ireland they should try to convince unionists to vote the other way but they won’t do that.
-2
robexib2 days ago
-7
So it seems The Troubles have started their comeback, and surprisingly, the British might not be entirely at fault for once.
-7
8bitjohnny2 days ago
-16
I hope the people of Dublin Drop everything and get the culprit thrown into an Irish Slammer.
96 Comments