Russia never has been and never will be reliable in any way.
Regards from Finland.
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Vv4nd6 days ago
+361
They've been reliably unreliable.
- A regard from germany who spent some years in finland
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According_Product5196 days ago
+153
Imagine being so unreliable that the only reliable thing about you is your unreliability
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fzammetti6 days ago
+33
I mean, when I drive, I always assume the other guy is going to do the exact wrong thing in any given moment, and that's kept me safe for a lot of years.
Seems like the same basic logic applies to Russia just as well.
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ObieKaybee6 days ago
+50
They are like Loki in marvel movies. So treacherous that your treachery becomes predictable.
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kbrymupp6 days ago
+39
Or, indeed, in Norse mythology.
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OfficialEmmaStone6 days ago
+1
Or Captain Jack Sparrow.
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VolgitheBrave6 days ago
+13
"Me, I'm dishonest. And a dishonest man you can always trust to be dishonest."
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IssueNice61166 days ago
+4
Well, we here at the US have joined that club…
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BjornX6 days ago
+2
But doesn't that make them reliable in the reverse kind of way?
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Niblolkik6 days ago
+1
Trump logic
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TheHoneyBadger236 days ago
-2
How much time have you spent in WallStreetBets? IYKYK
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MaybeTheDoctor6 days ago
+20
I disagree, they have always been reliably untrustworthy
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CuttyAllgood6 days ago
+36
My favorite thing about Helsinki is all the “F*** Russia, Go Ukraine” signs that sit in the windows of the building across the street from the Russian consulate.
ETA: and also the wonderful public transportation
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HeavyMetalDoug6 days ago
+33
They also agreed in 1994 to never attack Ukraine if they gave up owning nuclear weapons. How did that go?!
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JcbAzPx6 days ago
+6
About as expected, sadly.
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foul_ol_ron6 days ago
+2
Unreliably then?
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DogP066 days ago
+48
A Russian is a Russian, even when sautéed in butter
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Andgihat6 days ago
+13
It's... shameful. A huge portion of our population donates to Ukraine and hates the war and Putin. Don't think the war has any real support... We've simply become extremely atomized over the past 20 years and have been convinced of our helplessness.
You live and suddenly find out your family is cannibals, after February 24th =(
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DogP066 days ago
+14
I believe that. We are all individuals, and while it’s easy to get swept up in the tide, some people find ways to do what they know is right. While I say “a Russian is a Russian” tongue-in-cheek, it’s of course more complicated than that. One glance at Solzhenitsyn’s work is enough to learn as much. Keep fighting the good fight, we’re doing what we can over here in the good old US of A
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ShultzHS6 days ago
+8
The person you're replying to is outright lying, by the way. The "big portion" of russian population either supports the war or doesn't care until it affects them directly (and then starts supporting the war, because obviously it's all Ukraine's fault). I know the language, have some acquaintainces there, read russian social media sometimes, frequently encounter russians in MMOs, etc. - and I guarantee, what you see there vastly differs from "we're innocent, that's Putin war" narrative their opposition tells to the West. And even among the small anti-war percentage, donating to Ukraine is extremely controversial (see Anna Veduta, who encountered a lot of hate from other oppositionists for donating to AFU = "helping to kill our boys"). It's Russia war and the majority of russians are 100% responsible.
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Andgihat6 days ago
-2
And yes, believe me, few will openly declare their donations, especially after Navalny's death. The Anti-Corruption Foundation (AKF) began openly leaking donor information to the FSB, which then began putting them in jail. The foundation itself simply distanced itself and didn't even warn its own people. Alas, the only people left in the opposition seem to be Katz, who at least tries to save people for political reasons, and Naki, who often makes strange moves at times when it's clearly necessary to unite everyone, not seek out further discord. Unfortunately, after the Navalny tragedy, the ACF has either become a pro-Putin tool or simply mired in corruption and only harms the opposition... Basically, live and believe in flamingos.
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Andgihat6 days ago
-3
Dude, I literally live in Russia, so I think my data will be...um, more likely than yours. People are trying their best to distance themselves from the war, believing themselves powerless. Even those who believed the propaganda now openly hate the regime, despite the ongoing doublethink.
Plus, there are a bunch of people who hate it all and want the war to end, but at the same time, because of the propaganda, they don't want Russia to lose. But you can't call them supporters, because it's just words, because if they say otherwise, they feel like traitors.
At best, 10-15% actually support the war, and even fewer are active.
We have the same people as other European countries, who have simply found themselves in a terrible situation due to a number of factors. The population still wants a civil society and expresses its opinions whenever possible, as long as it doesn't lead to imprisonment. For example, the Furgal case or the elections, when people spontaneously created infrastructure to collect signatures for Nadezhdin across the country.
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Stingray77_NL6 days ago
+2
Even thén they are unreliable..
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catgoesmeh6 days ago
+16
Here, here!
From Latvia.
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Chrissanxy6 days ago
+8
Hear, hear* draudziņ, bet domu sapratām.
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catgoesmeh6 days ago
+5
Ui! Paldies!
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Duke_mm6 days ago
+2
After Russia collapses, are there plans to take the territory back they stole from you in WW2?
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VeGe-6 days ago
+1
No, it's all fucked up and any offensive just doesn't fit to the picture.
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Durandal_Tycho6 days ago
+1
Can't even make a modern nuclear power plant on budget or on time.
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Cpt_Soban6 days ago
+1
Russia has to be dragged kicking and screaming to admit to anything, just ask Sweden re: The Russian sub that crashed in Swedish waters
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XO1GrootMeester6 days ago
-1
They have been very reliable the last 20 years.
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[deleted]6 days ago
+500
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StaysAwakeAllWeek6 days ago
+90
Either he submits to Ukraine's terms or he gets his parades bombed/cancelled. Either way he looks weak and helpless. He picked the least terrible option for him
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madhattr9996 days ago
+4
i think having his parade attacked is going to be worse for him than just avoiding bombing for a couple days.. he wants to keep the war away from Moscow as much as possible.
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StaysAwakeAllWeek6 days ago
+11
He's moving every air defence system he can find to moscow right now. He's leaving the rest of the country completely exposed to protect it.
There are literally rings of hundreds of AA systems surrounding his palace in Moscow and his palace in Gelendzhik. And even with all that he still hides underground
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Dazzling_River99036 days ago
+3
UA drones just hit a well known high rise in Moscow, pretty close to the Red Square. That wasn‘t very reassuring.
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Redrumicus6 days ago
+2
[ Removed by Listnook ]
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shaolinoli6 days ago
+1
He’d better hope Zelenskyy doesn’t take too much inspiration from Slayer’s third album. It would be a shame if his parade was rained on.
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Sandbina6 days ago
+232
I am looking forward to Ukraine's victory. This horrible war is needless and has taken so many lives. The only justice the dead will get now is for the war to be won by the correct side. I am eager to see blue and yellow skies on that day.
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SpiroG6 days ago
+46
Gonna be a bitter-sweet victory, if it happens, which I also hope for.
But, in all honesty, it would be a victory on paper, and a tragic loss overall. So much destroyed, so many killed and displaced. A ton of torture, a ton of horror, all for jack shit.
The *only* positive that I can think of is that Russia loses a lot harder, and is fucked up so badly, they won't be able to lift a finger again within our lifetimes. And, if it happens that a "superpower" loses this hard, everyone else would be shocked enough to calm the f*** down and stop lobbing bombs at each other for a decade or so.
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Crousher6 days ago
+23
A Pyrrhic victory is still preferable to a loss
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EvanQueenSummers6 days ago
+2
buddy, i don't think middle east stops bombing each other ever...
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ajaxfetish6 days ago
+2
Yeah, they're not getting all those Soviet stockpiles back, and if their economy is crippled enough to prevent future aggressions, well, then the world owes Ukraine a huge debt of gratitude for protecting everyone else.
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philip_laureano6 days ago
+3
Ukraine won't win as much as Russia losing the ability to hold ground and be forced to withdraw, just as they did in Kherson.
And I look forward to seeing Zelenskyy back in a suit with tears streaming down his face as they hoist the Ukraine flag at the NATO HQ in Brussels in the early 2030s.
All it took was a million drones and a leader strong enough to say that he didn't need a ride. He just needed more ammunition.
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QuestionableEthics426 days ago
+11
That's literally what winning is in a defensive war though?
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philip_laureano6 days ago
-4
Not necessarily. They're not driving out the invaders, either. However, a stalemate almost always benefits the defenders
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QuestionableEthics426 days ago
+5
You said Ukraine wouldn't win so much as Russia loses the ability to hold ground and is forced to withdraw, how is that not the same as driving out the invaders???
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philip_laureano6 days ago
-5
Because driving out the invaders implies that it can be done through force alone. Like what the US did with Kuwait in Gulf War 1.
There's a difference between forcing an invader out versus taking over because they lost the will to fight.
But if you think a win is a win, fine, but Ukraine isn't going to "win" in the military sense. They will, however, outlast the Russian will to fight and that's already evident.
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5Hjsdnujhdfu8nubi6 days ago
+6
>Ukraine isn't going to "win" in the military sense.
They achieved their objectives. That is a win in the military sense.
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swedishplayer976 days ago
-78
Call me a cynic but unfortunately there's no way for Ukraine to regain its lost territory. Anyone saying Russia's economy will collapse or Putin will be assassinated is high on his own supply.
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just-do-it-already6 days ago
+44
Russians own economists inside Putin’s regime are saying the economy will collapse by the first of the year if the war isn’t totally stopped by then. Even if the war is stopped by then they anticipate having to do very drastic emergency measures to prevent a collapse. You are uninformed.
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Bad_Day_Moose6 days ago
+27
Putin is literally also hiding in bunkers fearing assassination because of this.
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swedishplayer976 days ago
-20
That was reported from a tabloid magazine. As much as I like to believe it, I doubt it
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just-do-it-already6 days ago
+6
Russians can’t afford magazines Putin won’t even let them have the internet any more.
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swedishplayer976 days ago
-16
Kremlin eased some internet restrictions a few weeks back.
F*** I'm getting down votes for that's literally what they did?
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just-do-it-already6 days ago
+2
You’re getting down voted because you’re wrong. There is all sorts of videos coming out of Russia about how the internet is constantly off all together and that’s not taking into account that Russia is blocking 50% of the internet when it is working.
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swedishplayer976 days ago
+2
https://novayagazeta.eu/articles/2026/04/14/kremlin-reportedly-eases-internet-restrictions-as-putin-s-approval-ratings-slide-en-news
This is the article I was referring to.
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dawtips6 days ago
-9
Come on. Use your brain. That is nonsense.
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vSTekk6 days ago
+4
But then donnie attacked iran and hormuz got closed...
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just-do-it-already6 days ago
+1
And Ukraine blew up 50% of there oil installations so it doesn’t matter. The war is costing Russia more than they earn its simple math.
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vSTekk6 days ago
+1
Their runway getting much longer thanks to US is just as simple math
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swedishplayer976 days ago
-12
Then Putin launches the nukes.
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just-do-it-already6 days ago
+9
Based on how badly Russia handled this war nobody believes the 80 year old Russian nukes that they haven’t done any maintenance on will even take off.
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swedishplayer976 days ago
-1
Are you willing to bet your life on that? If even 1% of their nukes work that's still 55 warheads capable of devastating all of Europe.
-1
brandbaard6 days ago
+14
Is the rest of the Russian military willing to end the world for Putin? I f****** doubt it.
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swedishplayer976 days ago
-1
I don't doubt it. In the US, silo operators receive launch orders all the time not knowing if they're real or tests, and they always initiate launch procedures. I can only assume Russian silo operators are the same, staffed by verdant nationalist who would rather see the world end than Russia die alone. There's also Cheget, Putin's nuclear briefcase from which he can remotely activate launch whenever.
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just-do-it-already6 days ago
+1
There is dozens of verified examples of people in Russia and the USA refusing orders to launch the nukes. All of the things telling the operative to launch the nukes were wrong and everyone that knows anything about nukes knows that.
Also Putins nukes don’t work this war has shown nothing has been maintained since the fall of the Soviet Union.
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MangledCarpenter6 days ago
+4
It doesn't actually matter whether anyone is willing to bet their life on it. It's just not a good enough reason for Ukraine to stop or to even try to prevent Russia from collapsing.
If they launch the nukes, then that's that. It's not worth considering. Ukraine won't, and shouldn't, lift its foot off the gas until Russia is defeated, crushed and reduced to a backwater. Besides, are *you* gonna tell Ukraine to go easy on them?? Good luck with that lol
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just-do-it-already6 days ago
+2
Considering Russia would have used them already if they were willing or able to yes I’ll take that bet. Russia is full of a bunk of drunken cowards and bullies but they want their families to live. Russia knows if they would even try they wouldn’t be a country any more. Russia knows they are a bunch of morons running a gas station of a country. Plus Russia relies on useful idiots like you to help support them.
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Tabbyredcat6 days ago
+1
Why does everyone act as if only Russia had nukes?
It would take dozens of nukes to destroy Europe. Only two to destroy Russia.
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Greatsnes6 days ago
+12
Oh? And where is ol’ Vlad getting this infinite amount of money from? How does he prop up the economy during this war? And how do you know more than their own economists? Please share your secrets that only you have and no one else knows.
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swedishplayer976 days ago
-1
China.
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QwertzOne6 days ago
+3
Have you checked China economic and political situation lately? They have their own issues as well, but we don't read about them often, so it's not like they have nothing better to worry about than collapsing Russia or attacking Taiwan. China is right now in messy situation
It's likely at this point that Russia will collapse, because material reality is catching up. It was all nice, when they sent over million people to die, but right now they're running out of everything required to continue this war. It's only possible to continue these wars so far, because it can't just base on vibes and propaganda, you have to actually sustain it, because without that it collapses.
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swedishplayer976 days ago
+1
Well then hope you've got a fallout shelter. With nothing left to lose Putin will take the rest of the world with him.
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QwertzOne6 days ago
+1
Putin won't nuke anything as long as Russian and Chinese elite children are taking full advantage of what the western world offers. Their kids study at Oxford and Harvard, their money sits in London property, their exit options are all on the side they pretend to despise. They'll fight among themselves for power, but they know perfectly well there's no point in winning, if there's no world left to rule.
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swedishplayer976 days ago
+1
Your belief that Putin gives a c*** about anyone other than himself is stronger than mine.
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QwertzOne6 days ago
+1
He doesn't have to. Putin is not an autocrat like in some movie, he's the head of a coalition. His power comes from the FSB, the military, the oligarchs and the regional elites. They back him because the system serves them. The moment he moves to destroy what they have, he stops being useful and becomes a liability.
That's what happened to [Khrushchev in 1964](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikita_Khrushchev#Removal), removed by his own Politburo for being erratic and overreaching. The coalition that puts a leader in power can take him out. Russian elites have their wealth, their property and most of their families embedded in the very system Putin would have to destroy to nuke the west.
Putin is not Stalin either. Stalin had [purged and remade](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Purge#Background) the entire elite into his own creature. Putin inherited an elite that existed, before him and will exist after him. He has plenty of room to be cruel and reckless inside Russia. He does not have room to take the rest of them down with him.
It's the same ceiling Trump runs into. He can attack Iran without a plan, do all kinds of stupid and destructive things, but he doesn't get to start a nuclear war, because the people around him would stop the order, before it reached a silo.
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swedishplayer976 days ago
+1
Your faith in the Russian people overthrowing Putin is far bigger than mine.
And for the record if Trump were to order a nuclear strike there's exactly two people who can override the order; the Secretary of Defense and General of the Strategic Command, both of whom are Trump bootlickers and would do whatever he wants. No one else, not Dan Caine as listnook likes to believe, is on the nuclear chain of command so they cannot override a launch command.
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Sandbina6 days ago
+5
Considering russia claimed that it would take days and yet now it has been multiple years, and with no great increase of land they've stolen in all this time, I have a lot of hope, and I find it well-placed.
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jugalator6 days ago
+280
Is it me or is he being unusually clear about every step that is leading them to something here?
1. The ceasefire with Russia for the parade
2. The violated ceasefire
3. The response that is being planned
It's as if they want to make it very clear that what they're doing is going to be warranted. I kind of wonder if it's because it'll be a bit controversial or painted as such by Russia. It's obviously easy to imagine something will happen at the parade, and a contingency that was planned all along.
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Erilaz_Of_Heruli6 days ago
+77
He could simply be trying to get Russia to divert air defence equipment away from militarily valuable assets to defend a symbolic parade.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like actually attacking the parade doesn't do much for Ukraine while they risk getting some negative press if some civilians are harmed or killed.
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Ddreigiau6 days ago
+33
Maybe. The troops in the parade will be in assembly areas away from civilians and in nice dense packs, before (and maybe after) the march, though
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nonsenseautomaton6 days ago
+5
What's the over/under on number of crutches in the parade?
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Ddreigiau6 days ago
+5
Before or after Ukraine's Special Disability Services Operation?
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slightlysublevel6 days ago
+4
Nah, f*** that. Any civilians at the parade are accepting that they may be killed, and thus give their permission to be killed. Civilian deaths are going to happen, and anyone that complains is just working for the Russians.
If we had to worry about civilian deaths, we would have never bombed Tokyo, Nagasaki, or Hiroshima, and we would have had to invade the mainland which would have resulted in over a million deaths.
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Mundane-Willingness16 days ago
+3
War crimes are bad actually
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slightlysublevel6 days ago
-2
Says who? The people that wrote the rulebook? Why do we care about what they have to say? Plenty of countries still use white phosphorus, but that's technically a "war crime", too. Does that stop anybody? No.
Call it whatever you want, but I'll continue to call it what it is: crybabies using shocking language in an attempt to make their feelings seem valid. There's literally no reason that killing civilians in specific situations should be seen as a "war crime". If the enemy is using them as human shields, it's not a "crime" to have one or two die while you're trying to kill some member(s) of **their** military. Remember: it's the civilians paying taxes that pay for the military we're fighting against, and that alone makes certain civilian casualties acceptable when they're collateral damage in a targeted attack of valid military targets.
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Mundane-Willingness16 days ago
+1
"Other people are doing the bad thing so that makes me doing the bad thing okay"
This is beyond ignorance, you're just dumb
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slightlysublevel6 days ago
> This is beyond ignorance, you're just dumb
Except this has literally been the way the world has worked since the dawn of time. Hurting people is bad, but hurting people that hurt you is seen as justice and "punishment." Killing people is bad, but killing enemy combatants is okay because the alternative is worse, and we all accept that. All of it is "other people are doing the bad thing so that makes me doing the bad thing okay." You just refuse to accept that.
You think I'm dumb, but I'm telling you that you don't understand how the real world works.
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Mundane-Willingness16 days ago
+1
Civilians are not enemy combatants
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slightlysublevel6 days ago
-1
I never said they were, but you don't have any comment on any of the rest of what I said, huh? You can't argue against any of it besides your imaginary "he said civilians were enemy combatants"? Really?
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Mundane-Willingness16 days ago
+2
>Any civilians at the parade are accepting that they may be killed, and thus give their permission to be killed.
Killing civilians is a war crime because they are not enemy combatants
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XO1GrootMeester6 days ago
-6
The civillians may be unaware , try to justify without their acceptance.
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slightlysublevel6 days ago
+2
That's a bunch of bullshit and you know it.
Even if it were true (it's not), we would have had to invade mainland Japan if we listened to pansies like you, which would have resulted in far more deaths than we had because we accepted civilian casualties with the bombs.
I hope Putin pays you well enough.
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XO1GrootMeester6 days ago
-5
Wy so mad?
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slightlysublevel6 days ago
+1
Why are you? You're the one so angry that I'd suggest civilians have agency and understand the cost of being near a **military parade** during a war.
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Wishbiscuit5 days ago
I’m a huge Ukraine supporter and even this take doesn’t sit well with me. Part of the reason Ukraine has been getting global support is by being the “better man” and not doing the stuff Russia does.
Slamming drones into a public event would be stooping pretty low for Ukraine.
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slightlysublevel5 days ago
+1
If you only support Ukraine because they are being the "better man", then you don't actually support Ukraine, you just support not-Russia.
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Wishbiscuit5 days ago
Incorrect.
Also if that was correct, why would that even matter?
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TeaAndLifting6 days ago
> Maybe I'm wrong, but I feel like actually attacking the parade doesn't do much for Ukraine while they risk getting some negative press if some civilians are harmed or killed.
As opposed to Russia, who overtly and openly kill civilians every day? If Ukraine get criticised for causing civilian harm by anyone, it is immediately mitigated by the consistent harm Russia causes. The only people that would bring it up as a net negative for Ukraine are tankies and vatniks.
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Shot-Toe-28846 days ago
+161
He’s certainly creating a credible threat that he wants Russia to take seriously. If Russia is observed to not be taking Ukraine’s capability seriously, that makes following through with these threats more likely. By ignoring credible threats, Russia would be willingly putting itself in a vulnerable position.
Think about it. Ukraine does have the capability.
The only thing more embarrassing than attacks on the parade would be not planning for attacks on the parade, brushing off the explicit threats as bluster, and then Ukraine attacks and says “hey morons, we literally warned you about this and you ignored it. What the f*** did you expect would happen? Take us seriously.”
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BaitmasterG6 days ago
+60
> Russia would be willingly putting itself in a vulnerable position
I mean... _gestures wildly around_
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That-Interaction-456 days ago
+19
Omg, I can't wait to open my presents!
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philipp23106 days ago
+14
Russia will paint any attack on the parade to celebrate victory against Nazis as an act of Nazis.
It is a dangerous move to attack the parade as it might not show Russians they aren’t as strong as they are told - but it will give Russia the narrative „nazis are still here we must unite and fight one more time“.
Communicating early prevents they can call it „unprovoked terror“. Maybe some Russians will ask them selves „are we the baddies“..
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Koala_eiO6 days ago
+33
> Russia will paint any attack on the parade to celebrate victory against Nazis as an act of Nazis.
They will also paint anything Ukraine does as an act of Nazis so that's not a problem anymore.
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MegabyteBeagle6 days ago
+12
Only a few, I'm sure most would not know about what would have lead to an attack on the parade, what was said, and what sort of "agreement" was put on the table and refused by Russia. So it is more likely it would act as a positive to continue the war in Ukraine as you say.
However, any drones flying nearby to unrelated targets would possibly ruin the parade.
Also, in Russian culture, showing good will is seen as weakness, hence not being possible to negotiate with them, since to reach an agreement, both sides need to make concessions, and when Ukraine does it, Russia sees it as weakness and intensifies demands and pressure.
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Bruvvimir6 days ago
Russians do not give a shit about this parade.
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ocelot_piss6 days ago
+1
It's very deliberately done to prevent Russia from dictating the terms and having a ceasefire that only suits them...
Russia announces a ceasefire purely so that Ukraine doesn't try to ruin their little parade. They expect Ukraine to agree to it, the carrot being that Ukraine gets a temporary relief from Russia's drone and missile strikes.
If Ukraine doesn't agree, Russia points the finger saying that Ukraine doesn't want peace. If Ukraine does agree, they give up the option to try to strike Russia at an embarrassing moment.
Of course Russian arms factories keep pumping out munitions the entire time. The drones and missiles just get stockpiled for a few extra days until the parade is over. Then they're straight back to pummeling Ukrainian cities with an XL barrage to make up for the reprieve that was granted. So Ukraine doesn't benefit from the ceasefire at all.
Ukraine announcing a ceasefire that eclipses Russia's steals control of the narrative. Russia has to be the one to agree to Ukraine's timeframe, otherwise Russia's parade is fair game and they cannot point the finger. Ukraine knows they're not going to be willing or able to do this.
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Lugbor6 days ago
+108
Aeons ago, the landmass that would one day become the Russian empire was formed. And then it got worse.
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zevonyumaxray6 days ago
+35
If you want an example of "got worse" look up the Siberian Traps. Makes the end of the dinosaurs look like an 'oopsie'.
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Naltoc6 days ago
+4
You weren't kidding. 2 MILLION years of eruption?
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pikachuswayless6 days ago
+101
Now I'm really looking forward to this parade. I'm interested to see what Ukraine will do, especially when they have every right to disrupt the event. Russia couldn't even stop attacking for 24 hours. Even worse, they decided to attack another kindergarten. Yet they somehow expect Ukraine to let them enjoy their event in peace? Ukraine has absolutely no reason to do them any favours so I'm looking forward to seeing what they do, and honestly I hope they don't hold back.
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zenlume6 days ago
+37
Attacking the parade is a total smokescreen, actually doing it accomplishes nothing for them. If they have something planned for that day, it will happen far away from the parade.
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tameriaen6 days ago
+11
Exactly. Any air defenses Russia deploys to protect that parade are air defenses that won't be guarding other opportunities. There will be troops and materiel at/around the parade, if left underdefended, so I wouldn't rule out such a strike. Still, I think the threat is made to tie-up defenses there in order to attack elsewhere.
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PopTough63176 days ago
+4
I wonder if maybe the air defenses may be the target, they are massively reducing the operational locations they could be in, and thus making them more accessible to attack. Especially if they are utilizing satellite observation on the Moscow area, they could get precise locations.
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tameriaen5 days ago
+1
They absolutely are, but I'm not sure if they'd be in range of the non-drone attacks typically used to take out Air Defenses. Moscow would be out of range of ATACMS, though arguably they could be hit Storm Shadow Missiles. I typically think of missiles as being used to take out the systems so that drones can more easily pass through the gaps -- but I could be mistaken.
Regardless, if they took out the Air Defenses protecting the parade, but didn't strike the parade -- that would be one hell of a flex.
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QuestionableEthics426 days ago
+1
It doesn't accomplish nothing, it makes an even bigger fool of putin, both nationally and internationally.
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a_natural_chemical6 days ago
+7
Is there any way it could be a trap? Ukraine seems firmly in control of the situation.
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Jealous_Response_4926 days ago
-22
I think it would be wise for Ukraine to hold the moral high ground, and avoid attacking something as pointless as a parade. But they have set a narrative that invalidates Russia's ceasefire for the parade, so military and strategic infrastructure are valid and moral targets during the parade. IMHO
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KeyPhilosopher86296 days ago
+15
I mean they could fly drones over the parade and over Moscow rather than hitting the parade directly
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UnLuckyKenTucky6 days ago
+9
Drop propaganda pamphlets instead of bombs.
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jxj246 days ago
+3
Drop balloons full of cat piss.
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AlhazraeIIc6 days ago
+3
And blue and yellow glitter.
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rawthorm6 days ago
+15
I mean it’s a gathering of military personnel and equipment. Where do you think they are going after? If it weren’t for the civilian location they’d do good to HIMARS the lot (being massively out of range not withstanding)
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Jealous_Response_4926 days ago
-3
I was under the impression that this years Russian Victory Parade was going to be absent of showing off military hardware, due to their lack of it.
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RCMW1816 days ago
+18
Hardware yes. Generals and military personnel no.
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Jealous_Response_4926 days ago
+9
Fair targets.
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ragebait_hater6 days ago
+3
I'm sure they could blow stuff up in the parade without causing casualties.
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Jealous_Response_4926 days ago
+5
Putin's doppelganger would probs be a viable casualty.
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noahson6 days ago
+3
I agree , blowing up a big target that actively supports the war effort and had its air defense moved to Moscow for the parade makes more sense.
I fear a false flag. Putin drones a dozen of his least favorite commanders and their families and then cries war crimes to any sympathetic leader who will listen.
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Menethea6 days ago
-17
Ukraine declared a ceasefire for May 5 and 6. However, Russia did not agree to it. Just like Ukraine previously did, by not agreeing to a ceasefire declared by Russia for May 8 and 9. So what’s the big deal?
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Random-Mutant6 days ago
+20
The deal is it does not give Putin any moral high ground when righteously attacked.
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Menethea5 days ago
+1
I don’t think the world will view Putin having the moral high ground if Russia is attacked by Ukraine during the Victory Day holiday, The question will be to Zelensky, was the destruction of central Kyiv worth the symbolism?
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Mister_V36 days ago
+17
Russia ceasefire is them trying to get a free shot on Ukraine. Always has been, always will be.
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ExF-Altrue6 days ago
+26
Sounds to me like things are in place to take down the Crimea bridge, but of course that may just be wishful thinking.
They have been hitting Crimea hard recently though, and got to their anti sabotage patrol boats too.
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macross19846 days ago
+8
Ukraine has been extremely patient. Now Russia will feel Ukraine with more unrestricted attack.
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A-Lewd-Khajiit6 days ago
+6
Rain on their parade
Bonus post if there's rainbow confetti
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Nakidka5 days ago
+1
PFP checks out.
Bonus points, make it a rain of skooma.
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bandita076 days ago
+11
Burn down the refineries.
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RealisticEntity6 days ago
+12
>On May 6, 2026, Russia launched a new wave of drone and missile strikes across Ukraine, despite a "silence regime" that had officially begun at midnight.
I think it was pretty much a given that Russia just wouldn't be able to make themselves not attack Ukraine. Russia was never interested in peace - and this proves it. They were only interested in a ceasefire so they can have their PR parade.
Good luck trying to have that parade now. I doubt Ukraine will actually attack the parade, but it would be interesting to see if Russia is willing to go ahead anyway and essentially ascribe more morality to Ukraine than they themselves possess.
At this stage, Putin might be more scared of assassination attempts from his own inner circle than from Ukraine.
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LThadeu6 days ago
+16
Will putin be alive next year to see Russia getting annexed by Ukraine?
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Sandbina6 days ago
+11
That's the only thing I want him alive for.
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askoraappana6 days ago
+14
It would be cool as shit if he dropped a dud directly on the parade and bombed the shit out of any and all underprotected targets elsewhere. Fill the dud with shit or something.
It would be a huge show of force and extremely embarassing for Putin while showing regard for civilian lives. About the biggest PR victory possible right in front of the Russian crowd.
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Jester15256 days ago
+12
Drones filled with propaganda pamphlets at the parade.. Then the largest single drone attack in history across the rest of the battlefield and Russian military targets..
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Marcello_the_dog6 days ago
+7
He’s going to hit the Victory Parade in Moscow May 9th.
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Beautiful_Finger45666 days ago
+5
Ukraine's victory cannot come soon enough
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HarEr896 days ago
+5
Good. No mercy!
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Defiant_Moment_55976 days ago
+7
Interesting that they even entertained a ceasefire with Russia
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MachineCloudCreative6 days ago
+25
Well, they really didn't. They countered Putin's ceasefire by saying they would cease firing sooner, and that if Russia violated Ukraine's ceasefire they would retaliate by targeting Russia's parade.
They knew Russia would not lose posturing and would attack until their original declared ceasefire, and Ukraine now has justifiable leverage to respond as they said they would. They know Russia will only use the ceasefire to amass forces and attack Ukraine harder, as they have done so after every declared ceasefire. So now we will see if Zelensky makes good on his threat.
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Crosszery6 days ago
+3
It's so sad that Putin and Russia is synonym now.
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machopsychologist6 days ago
+6
Remember - none of this news will ever reach the pro-russian people. They'll only hear "russia ceased fire but ukraine did not"
This is ultimately for non-russian audiences, especially neutrals who come across the propaganda.
Despite the negative connotations of the word, both sides are constantly fighting a propaganda war to maintain support. Zelenskyy is adept at this.
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TrumptyPumpkin6 days ago
+4
I can imagine Putin is being fed info from Yes Men. They probably never told him that Ukraine wanted a Ceasefire, or they Spun it to him that Ukraine didn't agree to the may 9th Ceasrfire and that Ukraine never offered one.
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dickabroad6 days ago
+2
"oh, if only the Tsar knew what his terrible boyars were up to"
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kreteciek6 days ago
+1
Both things can exist at the same time.
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An0n19966 days ago
+1
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stoptheinsanityleak6 days ago
+1
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Aikonn2566 days ago
+1
Few drones without payload fly over Moscow would be nice addition to Russia military parade. 😉
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Affectionate_Fall576 days ago
+1
Ukraine: "We will attack the parade."
Putin: "They will attack the parade!"
Commander: "Sir, they are threatening to attack the parade so that we would diverge air defence units from integral infrastructure. This is obviously a trap!"
Putin: "And I am falling for it!"
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TheJooooooo6 days ago
-4
It's getting exhausting watching Russia and the countries they support like Palestine continue to violate ceasefires. Getting f****** ridiculous at this point. Least Russian backed countries are starting to lose their leaders like Syria and Venezuela.
-4
Fit_Assistance27266 days ago
+5
Russia does and has always supported Israel according to president Bibi….“Regular Communication: Netanyahu stated in December 2025 that he talks with Putin "on a regular basis" to serve Israel’s "vital interests".
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TheJooooooo6 days ago
+1
Israel helping destroy Iran, a major source of Russian drones, and bombing Syria during their government's collapse is not exactly what I would call "helping Russia" Calm down Russian disinformation bot lmao
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Fit_Assistance27266 days ago
+6
I literally posted a direct quote from the president of Israel. What do you want me to do to prove to you that at least the Israeli government is pro Russia.
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TheJooooooo6 days ago
-5
Every government talks to other governments. It’s called Diplomacy :sob:
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TotallyADuck6 days ago
Iran has not been a major source of Russian drones for a while now, the Russians built their own factories to make upgraded versions using better components. And what are you talking about with Syria? They started bombing after Assad fled and the Syrian military had given up.
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Vendemmia6 days ago
Russia and israel always helped eachother in fighting islamic terrorists/people in general
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UnLuckyKenTucky6 days ago
-4
Z needs to nuke the Kremlin. Plain. Simple. One strike. One ending to this 3 day exercise that's lasted 4 years. Screw Putin.
-4
Bloodlancer6 days ago
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SuperRektT6 days ago
-32
So let's see the "Symmetrical Response" or if it will be a nothingburger
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UnLuckyKenTucky6 days ago
+10
Damn Russian bots.
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CumJuicer6 days ago
-3
It could be a trap, if Ukraine attack the parade, the Russians could start to sell the narrative for either full mobilisation or something like using nuclear weapons.
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