wait, he doesn't really have a two-face style uniform with Press on one side and camo on the other? next you'll be telling me he isn't half grayscale either.
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MaleCowShitDetector1 day ago
+75
> "While the army put out a clarification about the [first] photo, it never should have been distributed,”
I love how at the bottom of the article you can see that they admit he's a terrorist but then shift the goalpost, i.e. from "He's not a terrorist" to "Ok he is, but that image should've never been shared"
Journalism is shit and I really wish the laws were more clear about journalist integrity.
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Puzzled-Wedding-76971 day ago
+47
FPA rightfully states that the altered image should never have been distributed by the IDF. Where do you read any “admission that he is a terrorist” into it?
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Mr_Morio1 day ago
+15
Probably these parts put together:
“Shoeib worked for Al-Manar, a Lebanese TV channel affiliated with Hezbollah, and the Ftouni siblings worked for Al-Mayadeen, another media outlet with close links to Hezbollah.”
….
“That was the graphic. One authentic part and one edited part. In my opinion, it was clear that it was edited. We didn't claim otherwise. We also published an original photo of him in uniform.”
The Israeli army spokesperson did indeed publish another image on X on March 29, purporting to show Shoeib in a Hezbollah uniform. However, the image is blurry, and it is impossible to verify its authenticity.
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GeshtiannaSG16 hr ago
+3
Everyone has “close links”, they’re part of the government, if you need to interview them, you’ll naturally have “close links”.
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zumera1 day ago
-9
Westerners will die before they stop licking the Israeli boot.
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ToxicRainn19 hr ago
I think someone paid for the bots again. For a few weeks the comments on these posts matched the current polling on Israel, but not anymore as of today.
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jews4beer1 day ago
+27
Lol it's literally two real photos superimposed on each other. I mean, yea, I guess that makes it altered - but is a very convenient way to dance around the fact that the dude was literally a uniformed Hezbollah member.
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DarkHorizonSF1 day ago
+71
That doesn't seem to be an accurate interpretation of the article. "The Israeli army spokesperson did indeed publish another image on X on March 29, purporting to show Shoeib in a Hezbollah uniform. However, the image is blurry" – it doesn't seem to be describing the same photo. The 'Hezbollah uniform' half of the split image appears to be fictitious, and it's 'inspired' by a blurrier photo purported to be Shoeib.
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Competitive-Emu-74111 day ago
+24
No it’s not, it’s one image of him wearing a press vest that has been edited. The article is very clear about that.
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LovelyDayHere1 day ago
+52
> It's literally two real photos superimposed on each other
It's literally NOT.
Even the army spokesperson admitted that much.
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xnmyl1 day ago
+19
The fact you were tricked into believing he was wearing a Hezbollah uniform is evidence enough the image misinforms
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Nuclear-Jester1 day ago
+6
At best, you could argue the guy worked for a tv channel associated with Hezbollah (and rember he was hardly the only victim of the IDF's bombing)
Killing him is still a war crime. Immagine if Ukraine started targetting on purpose members of Russia State TV or a member of FOX news got killed while covering the closure of the Hormuz Strait by the IRG
In both cases, the action would earn international condemnation
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Competitive-Emu-74111 day ago
+9
Ukraine has assassinated journalists, actually. Darius Dugina was killed by a car bomb, as was Vladlen Tatarsky.
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Best_Change415523 hr ago
+3
>the guy worked for a tv channel associated with Hezbollah
Not associated with. Owned by. A part of. And he was accused of being an active member of a military unit as well.
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jews4beer1 day ago
-21
Ok putting aside that it is not a war crime...but the whatabout Ukraine is a fun one to play. Look no further then them targeting oil infrastructure the past two days while being cheered on here on Listnook. Israel and US do it and everyone loses their f****** mind. So no, I'm fairly certain that if Ukraine targeted someone in Russian state TV they would be cheered on, even though that would actually be a war crime (though I doubt they'd ever do it). This dude served in Hezbollah, he was fair game.
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Nuclear-Jester1 day ago
+18
Hey, hey, question for the usual guys: will the IDF beat the 2025 record?
You know, when it killed more than 80 press members in more or less 12 months (for comparison, the total number of journalists killed worldwide that year was 129)
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Greedy-Wishbone-80901 day ago
+28
Israel doesn't kill journalists.
But if they do, it's not that many.
But if it was, they didn't mean to do it.
But if they did, they were terrorists anyway.
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NeglectedDuty1 day ago
+1
How many of those "journalists" were a part of hamas or hezbollah or working with them in some capacity?
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SomeBloke1 day ago
+13
I don’t know. How many?
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Best_Change415522 hr ago
-4
How many examples do you need before you realize the journalist list is bullshit?
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SomeBloke22 hr ago
+9
More than one, please.
1 (unconfirmed)/80 isn’t a convincing ratio. Conversely, how many more journalists does Israel need to kill before you need to be convinced Israel kills journalists?
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Best_Change415522 hr ago
-4
The reason I ask is I have produced examples before, using strictly non-Israeli sources, only to be accused of using Israeli sources.
And then when I produce a few, there are these shifting goalposts. Because it takes effort to dig into every claim, but it takes little effort to buy a press jacket off Temu and claim to be a journalist.
>Conversely, how many more journalists does Israel need to kill before you need to be convinced Israel kills journalists?
If you produce enough bad results, the question becomes on the accuracy of reporting. Who is making this list? Who is making these claims?
Anyway, it sounds like you are saying two is enough?
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SomeBloke22 hr ago
+8
CPJ is considered a credible and transparent organisation. They’ve tracked and recorded the killing of journalists. Do you have independent, transparent, non-profit sources that refute the killing of these journalists?
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NeglectedDuty1 day ago
-24
That is for the person who is claiming Israel killed however many "journalists" to answer
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SomeBloke1 day ago
+32
No, you were given a verified figure for the number of journalists killed. A figure backed up by a credible, independent non-profit. You asked how many were terrorists so, by all means, please let us know.
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Competitive-Emu-74111 day ago
+14
No, that’s for Israel to answer. You can’t just say someone’s a terrorist and provide absolutely no evidence, and somehow it’s up to everyone else to prove they weren’t a terrorist.
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NeglectedDuty1 day ago
-17
You can't just say someone is a "journalist" without a thorough vetting in Gaza and Lebanon when there is well documented abuse of using that label to hide true identities.
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Competitive-Emu-74111 day ago
+17
And you can’t just kill someone without proof. Something Israel does repeatedly. If I say I killed someone in self defense, will you just take my word and it’s up to everyone else to prove it wasn’t justified?
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NeglectedDuty1 day ago
-2
In war you don't have time to go through judicial proceedings every time you fire a weapon 🤣
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Competitive-Emu-74111 day ago
+17
Dawg do you think you go through a judicial proceeding before using self defense? What is this logic?
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NeglectedDuty1 day ago
That's exactly my point - Israel doesn't have time to put every terrorist and enemy combatant through a trial during war and it gives asymmetric advantages to terrorists
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TR_Pix17 hr ago
+2
What stupid nonsense.
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CodeFun17351 day ago
+3
Ah, classic, everybody is Hamas.
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NeglectedDuty1 day ago
+15
Not everybody. That's a bit of an exaggeration and overshadows innocent civilians who have been victims in the conflict
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CodeFun17351 day ago
+6
Yes, the conflict being perpetuated by Israel. You are trying to claim journalists are somehow mustache-twirling antisemitic gunblazers, so forgive me if I ignore you.
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NeglectedDuty1 day ago
+21
Iran and its proxies: we must destroy Israel and mobilize our entire country's resources and that of our allies to do so
Listnook: Israel is the aggressor!
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CodeFun17351 day ago
Again, I need evidence of such please. Evidence before Israel’s unprovoked aggression in the region against Iran.
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hurdurnotavailable1 day ago
+5
Evidence? They freakin' say it themselves. They literally put up a clock that signals the destruction of israel. You quite literally just have to listen to what they say.
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CodeFun17351 day ago
+2
Once again, give me evidence of such. You just keep repeating the same statements again.
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SomeBloke1 day ago
-7
Israel doesn’t want to take any chances so it’s clearly better to kill journalists just in case. Same with children who are, in all likelihood, going to grow up radicalised. Apartheid is really something that both races want, the world just doesn’t understand that. Air strikes on Lebanon are for the safety of the Lebanese people. Israel cares.
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CodeFun17351 day ago
-5
Jesus Christ, you’re insanely brainwashed. Justifying the murder of literal CHILDREN.
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SomeBloke1 day ago
+6
Fuckin hell, dude. Do people genuinely require a /s after every sarcastic, parody, or obviously sardonic post?
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CodeFun17351 day ago
+6
Sorry, it’s just that I’ve encountered people who _actually_ have this opinion. As in they actually believe that the children will grow up to be terrorists.
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SomeBloke1 day ago
+5
Poe’s Law, I suppose. I just feel that if I use language that appears obviously exaggerated, it will be clear but text doesn’t always convey tone, especially in an environment of such polar extremism.
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Nuclear-Jester1 day ago
+2
It is sure convenient that every journalist, every doctor, every child the IDF has killed in the last 4 years were secretely part of some terrorist organisation
/s
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Mammoth_Payment_61011 day ago
+1
It's wonderful for the terrorists that they have so many privileged online cheerleaders too.
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Nuclear-Jester1 day ago
+20
You know, someone screamed the whole "You are pro-Teheran" when Meloni's referendum got defeated in Italy
You guys are boring. Btw thanks for literally not answering any of my points
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Mammoth_Payment_61011 day ago
+4
You didn't make any points. You wrote a sarcastic, self indulgent comment that is repeated by unoriginal sheep a thousand times an hour on the website.
I'd so love to have the privilege of just repeating nonsense about an issue I have no experience with to make myself feel better but its not really possible because I'm an adult.
You have a great time feeling right on the internet tho 👍
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Nuclear-Jester1 day ago
+35
80
This was the number of journalists killed by the IDF in 2025 alone. For conparison, the total number of journalists killed worldwide that year was 129
But sure, keep repeating yourself i am privileged or stuff like that.
I mean, what else do you have if not the usual lines?
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Mission_Scale_8601 day ago
Does that number only include civilian journalists or also terrorists using press credentials as cover?
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Nuclear-Jester1 day ago
+28
At best, you could argue the guy worked for a tv channel associated with Hezbollah
Killing him is still a war crime. Immagine if Ukraine started targetting on purpose members of Russia State TV or a member of FOX news got killed while covering the closure of the Hormuz Strait by the IRG
In both cases, the action would earn international condemnation
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Mission_Scale_8601 day ago
-1
Hezbollah is a terrorist organization, the US and Russia are nations.
I have no qualms about eliminating any person affiliated with Hezbollah or any other terrorist organization. They chose this. ”For they have sown the wind, and they shall reap the whirlwind.”
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Nuclear-Jester1 day ago
+20
I will remember this next time your country's soldiers are coming back in coffins wrapped with flags
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NeglectedDuty1 day ago
+5
Maybe we should give all our soldiers cameras and put press on their uniforms and then you'd be sad about it 🤣
Probably should write "Press" on our B-2s as well!
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SomeBloke1 day ago
+17
If you have the figures, let us know. Would also love to hear what the acceptable number of killed civilian journalists is. Naturally, we just want to be happy about how Israel is keeping within tolerances.
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Mission_Scale_8601 day ago
-6
I don’t that’s why I asked. There is no number of acceptable killed journalists, that’s not how collateral damage works. Civilian casualties are to be compared proportionally to the perceived military advantage. Hopefully it’s 80 Hamas members and 0 civilians journalists, wouldn’t you say?
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SomeBloke1 day ago
+7
The number has been verified by a reliable journalism organisation, so if you have figures to counter their evidence, how about posting them here?
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Mission_Scale_8601 day ago
+2
I don’t contest the number or that they were journalists. I’m questioning how many were civilians and how many were affiliated with Hamas, Hezbollah or anybody the other terrorist organization out there.
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Mission_Scale_8601 day ago
+1
Sure but I’m after the real number because it’s between 1–80.
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Mammoth_Payment_61011 day ago
-10
Ok mate. Enjoy your hobby.
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Mission_Scale_8601 day ago
-5
Well he was a two faced liar. The image was an illustration to show that. There are other pictures of him in uniform.
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Gord_Board1 day ago
-9
Well that doesn't sound like something israel would do?
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