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brickyardjimmy 4 days ago +1538

Hey. Look. Good news. Haven't seen that in ages.

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FluidProfile6732 4 days ago +55

Must hope the same for America.

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sporkparty 4 days ago +21

This is exactly right. Hungary has given us the playbook.

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jackmon 3 days ago +14

What's the playbook? I mean, I'd love to vote these assholes out, but I don't have a great deal of faith in my countrymen or the system in which our elections take place. How did Hungary overcome this?

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GoodIdea321 3 days ago +26

Seems like mostly people on the ground organizing and talking to people wherever they were. Magyar the candidate also went everywhere to speak to people. It wouldn't be hard to copy their actions.

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oldsecondhand 3 days ago +13

On the other hand Magyar "created" a completely new party that 2 year after its creation got 55.3% of the votes. Making a 3rd party successful would be much harder in the US. Magyar didn't have to carry the old opposition politicians (DINOs in the case of the US, or politicians too heavily invested in culture wars), which made it harder to attack him.

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Flash604 3 days ago +5

As an outsider, I'd say one of your biggest blocks against a third party is your primaries. In most democracies choosing the candidates are done internal to the party, not as a public display with public voting. Naturally those two parties have a huge advantage publicity wise over any new party. It also seems more logical that the party should present who they think represents them best, and then based on their choice you can decide "If this is who represents them, is this really the party I want to have my vote?"

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Alphabunsquad 3 days ago +2

Hungary is the size of Indiana. It’s a lot easier to be be visibly present everywhere.

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Breki_ 2 days ago +1

You are downvoted, but you are right. I know guys who have pictures with Magyar because they met at a concert. I met someone who played table soccer with him in a random pub. If you had some unique issue about the village you lived in, you could tell Magyar that, since he visited almost every village and town in the country. You can't do this in the USA

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sporkparty 3 days ago +13

https://www.journalofdemocracy.org/online-exclusive/how-peter-magyar-defeated-viktor-orban/ Here is an article. Basically they were able to convince enough people that being subservient to foreign interest isn’t actually patriotism to such an extent that a large number of previously disenfranchised voters returned to overcome the Orbán base, even after 16 years of rule and complete control of the media. Magyar then goes on to completely delegitimize the previous party. Says basically you’re traitors and bad for the country, our people deserve better, and we’re dissolving the old state media. Also tells important figures from the old regime that they’re going to be fired when he takes office. They’re trying to start over. This is exactly what needs to happen in America.

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Suspicious_Fly6594 3 days ago +6

Rod Dreher getting kicked out of Budapest is going to be hilarious.

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mst2k17 19 hr ago +1

Good lord, there's a name I haven't heard for a decade or two.

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Wise_Fox_4291 3 days ago +4

By organizing locally and visiting the vast majority of Hungarian settlements from the smallest village to the cities, listening to people's grievances and listening to the locals' ideas on how they would like the government to work for them. Collecting respected experts who were not career politicians all their lives, who are not tainted by prior political entanglements and creating a government program that was written by the cooperation between subject matter experts and local communities. Tisza is a real grassroots movement with no corporate donors, no political dynasties financing it, but practicing democracy the way they tell us in school. Go to a place, listen to the people, organize locally, be transparent, learn, grow, set realistic and achievable goals.

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WingerRules 3 days ago +3

Does Hungary have a Supreme Court who says they have no right to fair elections and that election rigging is allowed? (political gerrymandering). Because thats the kind of shit we're dealing with now.

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TodayImLedTasso 3 days ago +10

Hungary is gerrymandered AF and the Supreme Court is filled up with the people of the Orbán regime.

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Wise_Fox_4291 3 days ago +3

The old regime took gerrymandering to a whole new art form in Hungary. But when the people turned against them, it came to bite them in the ass. Everyone under 50 is basically against Orbán

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CatCatchingABird 3 days ago +2

Dude, the information you are asking for is readily available. There are several podcasts that go over the political history of Hungary under Orbán as well as Magyar's rise. Just look them up

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Prior_Industry 4 days ago +233

Let's see how Trump can sway the scales back the other way 🙄

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Silent-Act191 4 days ago +135

War with Cuba? War with Cuba.

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Prior_Industry 4 days ago +64

"We need Greenland!, Ronald Lauder told me, Sir, only you can do it, it's important, you have to take the Greenland. Otherwise the Chinese will have it and that's very bad, we'll develop it like you've never seen, I'm a realestate guy, I know I could do it at good price, the governor of greenland is begging me to"

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Sitty_Shitty 3 days ago +1

Greenland is Putin's request.

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seedless0 3 days ago +16

You need to think outside of the box. Attack Taiwan to claim TSMC!

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hescrepuscular 3 days ago +8

Why does my head immediately conjure up Attack on Taiwan

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WritingOutOfBoredom 3 days ago +2

In this case, would the titans be the USA and China?

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Disturbing_Behavior_ 3 days ago +1

Don't give him any ideas ...

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RectalSpawn 3 days ago +2

Why are you making it complicated? Just helicopter in at night and just take him prisoner. He is obviously a narcoterrorist.

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hahawin 3 days ago +1

Yes we've had Cuban missile crisis but what about second Cuban missile crisis?

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Gravuerc 2 days ago +1

Watch a four seasons disaster happen again and he declares war on Cuba Gooding Jr.

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Neat_Egg_2474 4 days ago +20

No need, the UK just did it for him by swinging far right again.

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-SaC 4 days ago +41

Luckily it was local councils rather than an actual general election, and while Reform gained a shitload of councillors, they haven't got actual control of too many councils considering - they won't be able to just do what they want except in a few areas, and hopefully the dogshit mess they'll make of those areas will make some people realise that giving a cow a gun isn't the best way to look after the farm. I'm not hopeful, though.

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Thermodynamicist 3 days ago +3

Local council elections are not unimportant, but Reform deporting all the black bins from Wakefield is unlikely to cause a global crisis.

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HappyMike91 3 days ago +6

Plaid Cymru and the SNP beat Reform in Wales and Scotland, respectively. Reform's "dominance" doesn't really extend outside of England because of Plaid Cymru and the SNP. The breakup of the UK is more likely than Nigel Farage becoming Prime Minister in the next election.

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BiDiTi 3 days ago +2

Knock on wood!

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HappyMike91 2 days ago +1

I'm hoping that Farage doesn't become Prime Minister. I think more people see him for what he is now compared to ten years ago.

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BiDiTi 2 days ago +2

And here I was just rooting for Scotland, Wales, and NI to rejoin the EU!

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HappyMike91 2 days ago +1

I hope Ireland does get reunified at some point. But it probably wouldn't happen unless a majority of people want it (as per the Good Friday Agreement). An independent Wales and Scotland joining the EU would be pretty cool.

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TheDoktorIsIn 4 days ago +14

Hilarious all the shit they gave us Americans for Trump (deservedly). Love my UK family, keep fighting fascism!

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bokononpreist 3 days ago +17

We share the exact same problem. The Murdochs.

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Crypt33x 3 days ago +2

And "most" of US/UK can't read foreign news, because they can't speak a 2nd/3rd language.

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ShakespeareStillKing 3 days ago +1

Americans barely speak English!

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AppropriateLet8131 2 days ago +1

I live in the South (and even love it), but this is a fact where I live

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Reilly616 3 days ago +3

To be fair to them, there's quite a big difference between a quarter of the votes going to right-wing loonies when the stakes are local waste management, fire safety, transport, planning etc. and half of the votes going to right wing loonies when the stakes are the nuclear button and the constitutional integrity of a nation... Still doesn't make it a pleasant trajectory of course.

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BiDiTi 3 days ago +1

What about 52% of the vote going to loonies?

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Crypt33x 3 days ago +1

He just needs to buy the new PM? He seems to be a better populist... Sad that i can be so easy.

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Ice_Milk 3 days ago +6

it’s not only a good news for the Hungary people but also for all over the world. You know why? Because Trump hated it.

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raver58 4 days ago +1

Absolutely that

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samrelian 3 days ago +1

Pretty much a matter of what sources you’re looking at media makes money off doomscrolling lol

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Plow_King 3 days ago +1

looks good to me!

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volroawall 3 days ago +1

genuinely did not expect to see this headline, felt like orban was just going to be there forever. fingers crossed it actually sticks and doesn't turn into another situation where the replacement turns out to be just as bad

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Cujo22 3 days ago +1

Ukraine.

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Competitive-Meet-511 2 days ago +1

More good news: Reform (far-right) found out last week that they're not going to win the next UK election. They tried to spin it as "we gained seats" which indeed they did, but the numbers needed to be so much better and they know it.

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NotAUserNamm 4 days ago +280

This ought to be geopolitically interesting

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piponwa 3 days ago +60

CPAC going down like the NRA did will be interesting. So much fraud and foreign interference. You'd think with all their billionaires, they wouldn't have to beg f****** Hungary for money just to further their cause. But there isn't something billionaires like more than sucking taxpayer money for their own interest, especially if it's another country's taxpayer money.

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Competitive-Meet-511 2 days ago +5

There's a great interview by an American historian who outlines the structure of the global far-right and points out that is was Orban, not Trump or MAGA, who was the sun at the center of their solar system. So much money came from there, Orban was a trailblazer in building the modern authoritarian model, and every far-right leader looked to him and took the loss personally. They'll find ways to work around it, but it's a big loss, especially in Europe, and we should celebrate it.

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That_Country_7682 4 days ago +336

16 years is way too long for any one person to hold power. good riddance.

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spiderhater4 3 days ago +145

He wants to introduce a prime minister term limit of 2x4 years. I don't think Orban would make a return anyway, so Magyar's really doing this against himself.

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eucaliptooloroso 3 days ago +25

Well, and against future Orban-likes, which given enough time will surface. Term limits are more good than not.

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piponwa 3 days ago +14

Yes, you'd think a country of several million people can find a different competent person every couple of years.

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Own-Toothbrush114 2 days ago +1

Merkel ruled 16 years as well

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Underradar0069 4 days ago +56

EU will get stronger

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KingofSomnia 3 days ago +36

Fun fact: Magyar means Hungarian. Peter is most likely the most common name is Hungary. So this is as if John American became the us president.

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__Polarix__ 3 days ago +32

This is the first year since 1994 where Orbán is not in the parliament. [I'm not joking.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Hungarian_parliamentary_election)

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Life_Bet8956 4 days ago +404

He isn't perfect imo, but huge step in the right direction for both Hungary and the world at large.

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PerilousFun 4 days ago +286

Any movement away from Russian sympathizers is more often than not good movement.

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Tromort77 4 days ago +152

Nobody is perfect, but he is quite misunderstood from the outside because of the way he had to defend himself from Orban's propaganda machine.

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Longjumping-Yak3789 3 days ago +54

From way abroad, he seems to be pushing back heavily against Russian and American imposition, which seems like a step up generally?

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Tromort77 3 days ago +77

He is pro-EU and pro-NATO first. He is anti-Russian and wants to stop their influence, but he was quite neutral in foreign politics since Orban was only caring about that and nothing else, so he challenged Orban on domestic policies instead, like education, healthcare, and corruption. Regarding the US, he is completely neutral.

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Inprobamur 3 days ago +17

Unlikely that US is going to be neutral to him with how much they tried to keep Orban in power to help their buddy Putin.

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Piggywonkle 3 days ago +35

Hungary will most likely just become a country that stays out of the spotlight. There's very little reason for it to have any international drama, like most of its neighbors.

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Tromort77 3 days ago +20

The Hungarian economy is in shambles, and without the EU funds, Magyar won't be able to keep his promises. The EU funds are blocked due to rule-of-law, corruption, and the lack of judicial independence. Those are fixable, but require great cooperation within Magyar's government and the EU. So even if he wanted to go against the EU, he can't. Also, he got the huge mandate to take Hungary back to the EU, where it belongs. Orban was only relevant in international politics due to his Russian ties and because of the know-how of how to build an illiberal democracy and sustain power. But in a normal world, Hungary should be irrelevant geopolitically and just one random country within the EU, and I am saying this as a Hungarian.

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Benedictus_The_II 3 days ago +6

Yes, but just let me enjoy the 15 minutes of spotlight that Hungary finally turns from a bastion of illiberal democracy to now as an example of how to break that. :P My mood is literally different since the elections.

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ILoveSquirtle69 3 days ago +1

>He is anti-Russian and wants to stop their influence ... >Regarding the US, he is completely neutral I am by no means a political analyst, but is this not a direct contradiction? Is the us not currently under direct Russian influence? That's like a polish politician in the 1930s saying he is anti-Mussolini, but regarding Nazi Germany he is completely neutral

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Tromort77 3 days ago +11

I know what you mean, but what I meant was that they want to stop the Russian influence in Hungary. Geopolitically, I do not think they care what is going on in the US. It's one of Hungary's main trading partners; they want to keep good relations, but nothing more. Hungary in itself should be irrelevant. The only thing that made Orban relevant is his veto on EU decisions. Magyar is pro-EU, and while he said he will be argumentative on certain issues, he won't block the EU, especially not on global decisions.

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ILoveSquirtle69 3 days ago -1

You cannot simultaneously claim that: 1. Magyar wants to stop Russian influence in Hungary 2. The U.S. domestic political landscape doesn't matter The documented record shows that both Trump's administrations have systematically dismantled the very Western sanctions, military aid structures, alliance and socioeconomic cohesion that the EU needs to counter Russian influence in Central Europe. Leaving the U.S. out of the analysis is like trying to solve a chess puzzle while ignoring the queen. The threat to Hungarian sovereignty involves not only Orban and his cronies, but also converging pressures of energy dependency, a weakened NATO, disintegrating sanctions enforcement, and a U.S. "president" who has consistently acted as a force multiplier for Putin's strategic geopolitical objectives. The EU's ability to protect its eastern flank depends overwhelmingly on whether Washington remains a partner or becomes a wrecking ball. The evidence suggests the latter is far more likely than Budapest seems willing to admit I stand by what I said. Saying Magyar and his cabinet are *anti-Russian and wants to stop their influence* while they are also ***completely*** *neutral* regarding the U.S. is akin to a senator in the late Republic saying he is firmly anti-Separatist and wants to stop the droid army’s advance, but then declaring complete neutrality toward Supreme Chancellor Palpatine—while he’s already the Sith Lord covertly controlling both sides of the war

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Tromort77 3 days ago +6

What would you say, what is the EU's stance on the US? The EU is cautiously cooperative but much more distrustful, trying to preserve the transatlantic alliance while preparing for a less reliable, more transactional America through greater European strategic autonomy. At the same time, they are still trying to push back against Russia. Magyar will be the same, nothing more, nothing less.

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ILoveSquirtle69 3 days ago +1

I don't know if magyar will be the same or not, i know anything about him. My argument aimed at a specific comment, that is; saying his cabinet is anti putin but neutral to the us is a contradiction. That is my only argument

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randomgoes 3 days ago +1

Whatever influence Russia is exerting over the US is not direct, the US is actively fighting Iran and supplying Ukraine with weapons so they're engaged in conflict on two fronts essentially. Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.

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ILoveSquirtle69 3 days ago +2

Are you forgetting the surmountable evidence that trump was a russian asset, or the evidence that both trump terms have helped further russian strategic interests? If election interference and covert operations is not direct interference, I don’t know what is lmao, but then again, who knows if i am just talking to a russian or american bot... we are so cooked

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randomgoes 3 days ago +2

I agree thats all happening but you literally just used the word covert and then said it's more direct than weapons and war. That's the only point I was making and you're calling me a Russian bot lol. Like your response was agreeing with my point. Veiled, undercover, and indirect can all be synonyms of covert.

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JarasM 4 days ago +14

Nothing's perfect, but I'll take "not being absolute dogshit" as a huge improvement. Not many of these things nowadays.

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rudolf_waldheim 4 days ago +61

He will be perfect if he tries to act the way he talked in his inauguration speech. Really. A whole country (minus the Russian-hearted idiots, but they are only a fraction now) watched it stunned with goosebumps. Basically every classic liberal themes were mentioned in a way. After the official part, there was a party on the square before the building of the parliament, and the first song was sung by a legendary, Romani, lesbian singer who grew up in an orphanage and who used to be successful before 2010, but since then she hasn't had much opportunity since she didn't want to abandon her true self to favor the fascist government (and her whole identity is hated by them), and all the media was ruled by them. I think this is a very good symbol that he isn't "almost-Orbán-just-a-slightly-better".

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StuckInABadDream 4 days ago +20

Well he has no excuse now, since they have the supermajority and Fidesz seems to be about to implode, which means almost absolute power to make changes

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ontopoiesis 4 days ago +5

What is the name of the singer and the song she sang?

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mbp_szigeti 4 days ago +15

Oláh Ibolya - Magyarország [https://youtu.be/uwcDo-ugENI?is=AgToDEjhQ0raFsc7](https://youtu.be/uwcDo-ugENI?is=AgToDEjhQ0raFsc7)

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NaughtyCheffie 4 days ago +3

Beautiful. Also, duck.

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snurph 3 days ago +2

If you enjoy the song, I gotta let you know about the [original](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68483tVx0eA)! It's by far my favourite CDS song, it's so beautiful!

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paralaxsd 3 days ago +7

Magyars political convictions are really secondary as long as he commits to restoring Hungary's foundations as a democracy and all that comes with it, e.g. persecution of corruption, independent judiciary, restoration of a balanced media environment etc. All signs point in the direction that he plans on doing just that.

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Norwester77 4 days ago +7

Fingers crossed! 🤞

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Fisher9001 3 days ago +1

> He isn't perfect imo, No one ever is.

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vincentkun 3 days ago

Only 18-24 year olds (or so) expect perfect candidates and politicians. I was one as well, the moment a politican had 1 or 2 things I disagreed with I'd drop them, very low tolerance. I think progressives never outgrow this phase, or only do so after 35-40, assuming they even remain progressive.

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dead97531 4 days ago +46

We won. Árad a Tisza

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Mediocre_Device308 4 days ago +88

Is Orban still in Hungary, or has he fled to Russia yet?

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JohnSmiththeGamer 4 days ago +22

Presumably still in Hungary. He's president of the main opposition party. His party still has sway in the European Parliament. They also have the majority of councils.

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CelestialFury 3 days ago +22

We shouldn't underestimate Orban or his party -- voters have short memories. The far-right has got a lot of money and it's a global effort, they're in this for the long haul.

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oldsecondhand 3 days ago +10

After the election, Orbán's party lost another 5% of popularity. It's hard to imagine them coming back. They lost even when they controlled all mainstream media, and the opposition had to find refuge on the internet. They're also not good with saving money for rainy days. Without embezzling government money, their media empire will starve to death.

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CelestialFury 3 days ago +6

I hope you're right, but I think Magyar, his party and the voters need to keep on the offensive and not give one inch to these far-right people.

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SunyiNyufi 3 days ago +8

That is the promise so far, even in his speech Magyar talked about how we need to come together as a country, but we can't do that before we make the people who harmed the country responsible, and he wants to make a country where actions have consequences for all of us and the governing party or rich people aren't different. Of course this is all talk for now, the real work starts next Monday. Considering the people whom he selected into his cabinet, I'm personally optimistic.

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spader1 3 days ago +6

I'd expect the Republican strategy -- amplify every single tiny issue, pretend they had nothing to do with anything wrong in the country, and constantly say "it's been month and everything isn't perfect! They are so bad at governing! Don't you wish we were back in charge?"

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FaceDeer 3 days ago +4

I'm curious to see how long that will last as corruption gets unearthed and court cases start getting filed.

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calstanfordboye 4 days ago +107

He will flee to America aka NewRussia

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Slow-Temporary-1489 4 days ago +10

Do we have to accept him?

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apricot_bee67 4 days ago +36

Orbán’s daughter and her husband have already moved to the US, happily living off the wealth taken from the Hungarian people.

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strzeka 4 days ago +25

For you ever have a choice in anything? Really?

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MrFilkor 4 days ago +14

US is a country for mega corps and slaves at this point. Richest country in the world and it's citizens go bankrupt over minor health issues and treatments that would be nearly free in the EU.

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CatCatchingABird 3 days ago +7

I doubt that. If he comes here he's going to have a bad time. Trump is not going to be in power forever and the populace is already sharpening their pitchforks.

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Spoonerism86 3 days ago +19

He already stated he'll go to the US for a few months. His daughter and son-in-law (who became one the the riches person in Hungary) already moved to the US last year.

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PETEFO55 3 days ago +4

Hope they dont live in New York then

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Spoonerism86 3 days ago +12

Sorry to disappoint, yeah they f****** do live there.

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PETEFO55 3 days ago

This wasn't a worry for me its a worry for them, lol

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CatCatchingABird 3 days ago +1

The way I see it is he's not going to be here all that long.

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ayseni 3 days ago +5

Bad time, how come? What's that based on? If anything US legal system has shown to protect corrupt kleptocrats. You can attempt an insurrection, steal public funds, or be a known pedophile and get away with it if you are member of the correct party and wealthy.

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hellomistershifty 3 days ago +2

That's even more true for Russia, but I don't know how likely it is for anything is to come of it in either country

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dbdr 3 days ago +7

Orban resigned from his seat in parliament, so he didn't have to sit in the opposition and witness his successor being elected. Like Trump in 2020, who didn't welcome Biden into the White House but just fled away. Sore losers.

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PieStraight541 4 days ago +17

He said he will move to usa for a while.

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HoightyToighty 4 days ago +15

Wonder what his Mar-A-Lago face will look like, post surgery

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MrBaldTheBaldy 4 days ago +3

source??? cant see anything on this

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TodayImLedTasso 3 days ago +2

His office confirmed to the Hungarian press that - officially - he's going to the attend the World Cup, also his eldest daughter moved to NY with her family last fall.

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spiderhater4 3 days ago +1

He seems pretty sure that everything he did was legal, so he's not running away. Unlike the oligarchs and some top fidesz politicians, it's not proven yet that Orban has built a huge wealth, but many people think so. I hope we'll find out.

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JarvisModeOn 4 days ago +11

From "petri dish for illiberalist" to "new chapter" in a month...politics really does have the fastest turnaround times

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LiterallyFirst 3 days ago +2

These do happen, internal politics of a country arent felt from the outside usually. This though, was truly a seismic shift internally as well. In 2 years, a new opposition party swept away the old opposition, who felt comfortable under orban. Tisza didnt take alliances, didnt make coalitions, almost every member is an outsider from politics with no connection to the previous system. And those who were in politics before are the few, who were held in very good regard by the general public. This was a true regime change, one that for us hungarians rivals the fall of communism,and the weight that had.

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honey_graves 3 days ago +11

I really hope he can help up the country, Hungarians deserve better then Orban

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spiderhater4 3 days ago +2

He can try but he will only succeed if he can manage to get back the stolen public funds or EU funds, neither will be easy. You can't do miracles with an empty treasury.

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Nibbled92 4 days ago +13

I feel safer already

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Different-Produce870 4 days ago +48

This guys name literally translates to Peter Hungarian

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onarainyafternoon 4 days ago +60

The last name goes first in Hungarian, so it’s even better: Hungarian Peter.

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Nachtraaf 3 days ago +15

"Hey Lois, remember that time when I was Hungarian Peter?"

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WonderfulAdvantage84 4 days ago +19

And in the Hungarian EU election he ran against Thomas German.

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Different-Produce870 4 days ago +5

That's even better!

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macross1984 3 days ago +6

Finally Orban is out. He really should think about moving to Russia after helping Putin so much.

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JazzFan1998 3 days ago +2

Let's have JD endorse all republicans now!

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Just_Ban_Me_Already 3 days ago +4

A new era for Hungary, hopefully a better one.

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afeher 3 days ago +4

His mandate and responsibilities are huge. Let’s hope he won’t fail.

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FlyingRaccoon_420 4 days ago +18

Didnt Bulgaria just elect a pro-Russia Prime Minister

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No_Square_3913 4 days ago +9

Reform just made a big jump in local seats in the UK.

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MarTimator 4 days ago +23

Reform is also the reason the UK is not in the EU anymore

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jjhope2019 4 days ago +12

Dark money from Moscow… 🫣

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Competitive-Meet-511 2 days ago +2

A lot of which was funneled through Hungary until a few weeks ago.

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-SaC 3 days ago +8

We've got about 3 years for people to realise that the only question Farage is the answer to is *'who's that rubberfaced fuckwit?'*

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No_Square_3913 3 days ago +2

US had four years of the Orange Felon and voted for him again. Hopefully the UK realizes sooner than the US.

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-SaC 3 days ago +2

Fingers bloody crossed.

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Competitive-Meet-511 2 days ago +1

No, Reform just learned that they're not going to win the next election lol. I hate to say it but the only people still pretending that Reform is on an epic run and about to win every single seat in Parliament and a few seats outside in the grass to boot are the BBC and people who only watch the BBC. I want to support the BBC but the way they platform extremists and militantly choose a narrative and stick to it against all evidence is bizarre and contributes to a degradation of the media environment. If you put yourself in Reform's shoes, you may have gained, but you are crapping your pants right now because you're missing your best shot in slow motion.

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rewardingsnark 3 days ago +3

Fingers crossed out fascist dictatorship only lasts 4.

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evermoreisthe1 3 days ago +3

i am so proud of myself right now as a hungarian

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arabacuspulp 3 days ago +5

Go f*** yourselves, Steven Harper and the IDU.

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Sao_Gage 3 days ago +2

Leave it to Peter Hungarian to lead Hungary forward into the light.

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czs5056 3 days ago +2

Finally some news that isn't making me more cynical.

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DamNamesTaken11 3 days ago +2

Hungry is a member of NATO alliance and EU so Poutine can’t invade without triggering Article 5 or EU’s Mutual Assistance Clause triggering a full attack back. Wonder how much he’s grinding his teeth at his castle on the Black Sea about this.

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chpbnvic 3 days ago +2

The first half of my life seems to be under mostly conservative leadership. Im really hoping that, by the time I reach the second half, the pendulum will swing to the left.

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VirtualHovercraft122 3 days ago +2

Yay! That’s progress!

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qpgmr 4 days ago +5

I'm honestly amazed this didn't turn into a Jan 6 style insurrection.

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zuth_ 4 days ago +24

Despite all the anti-democratic news that have come out of here in the last 16 years, Orbán's supporters are nowhere near at the same insanity level as MAGA people. Also Orbán is rapidly losing support after his defeat (at which point he has already lost an insane amount of them). He is polling at 23% right now as opposed to 70% of Tisza.

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qpgmr 4 days ago +2

I just assumed after 16 years of him and his hangers-on burrowing into government they'd fight harder. I'm glad the country was able to free itself.

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zuth_ 4 days ago +8

Honestly violent protests and riots here are extremely uncommon. The last truly violent riot was almost 20 years ago despite Orbán’s 16 year rule. Something extremely upsetting and outrageous needs to happen for people to get violent here.

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Formal-Apartment855 3 days ago +3

Nah, Hungary is somewhat different from the USA in a few ways. Eg. somewhat less people have access to guns and the likes. But also these were MAJOR news in Hungary, understandably they didn't make it out of the borders that much: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMuy\_qU69wk](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMuy_qU69wk) as a reaction to this interview with this well-respected military guy literally thousands of people working in the army and other similar forces in Hungary expressed full support of him and verified every single statement he made, they collected tons of further proof, etc. (Watch the interview on double speed maybe, he talks slow. lol Sorry Szilveszter for calling you military guy, my English sucks, I don't know the proper terms in English.) [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXmuE2TX9yE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXmuE2TX9yE) this guy worked for the police and then the "National Bureau of Intelligence" or whatever NNI is called in English, and exposed a lot of c*** about how 0rbán's party misused police and national intelligence staff etc. A lot of police officers expressed support for him. Both of the above were probably partly inspired by this guy [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdlMnQsK\_f0](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdlMnQsK_f0) So 0rbán and co knew that the army and the police were not on his side (anymore). Both the army and the police were majorly over 0rbán's bs, so they were not ready to be used by him (anymore), and they expressed it. Only the head of the military and the police were on 0rbán's side, but he is not THAT dumb to think that those few useless people could actually physically defend him.

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Wise_Fox_4291 3 days ago +1

Public disapproval against Orbán was so huge and all encompassing that he had no choice. By all accounts the regime has even turned the police and military against themselves in the past 4-8 years. According to the lates poll, if the elections were held this weekend, Tisza would win by 70%. Orbán's party is imploding at record speed.

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Justin_123456 3 days ago +2

Wait, his name is Magyar, he leads a party called Magyar. I don’t speak Hungarian, but doesn’t this mean that new PM of Hungary is Peter Hungary of the Hungary Party? Idk, sounds a little on the nose.

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dead97531 3 days ago +11

The party is called TISZA which is short for **Ti**sztelet és **Sza**badság Párt (Respect and Freedom Party). (Tisza is also the name of a Hungarian river which is often called "the most Hungarian river") His last name is Magyar which means Hungarian and not Hungary. In Hungary and Central Europe, last names based on ethnicity is common. Also fun fact: In Hungarian the names are the other way around, so his legal name is Magyar Péter.

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Competitive-Meet-511 2 days ago +1

I believe in this case though his ethnic roots are Swabian German, which isn't uncommon in Hungary and which he has discussed in passing during his campaign.

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higgs8 3 days ago +7

His party is called TISZA which is a river in Hungary and also the acronym for "respect and freedom". His name is indeed "Hungarian" which is a fairly common name in Hungary (many names are adjectives and nationalities), but is a really nice coincidence here. His name literally means "Hungarian Peter".

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Lazy-Good1433 3 days ago +1

I don't speak Hungarian much myself even though having roots in Budapest, I joke with my sibling that the new elected leader for Hungary is the man of his people via Magyar (language).

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StandardNerd92 3 days ago +1

I'm glad Orbán stepped aside instead of trying to stay in power.

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Tenoch_12 3 days ago +6

He didn't step aside, he got kicked to the curb.

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pjslut 3 days ago +1

Congratulations! Such great news!

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szucs2020 3 days ago +1

We lost Tim Apple but at least now we have Peter Hungary

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primingthepump 3 days ago +1

I read McGyver

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XJDenton 3 days ago +1

Now the hard work starts in dismantling the old regime.

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E_seven_20 3 days ago +1

I think in 16 years, the USA will still be arguing over whether or not to support a party that supports child r***, because someone might have a “laugh.”

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7r3370pS3C 4 days ago

Do Trump next!

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rudolf_waldheim 4 days ago +13

That's your job, not ours.

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Cheeze_It 3 days ago

I'm still laughing at his last name. It's so Hungarian.

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Seguefare 3 days ago

I've heard him described as Hungary's version of Paul Ryan. But hey, way better than Orban.

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Wise_Fox_4291 3 days ago +2

I don't think you can draw direct parallels between American and Eurooean politicians and politicial parties like that. Even conservative right wing parties in Europe support economic and social measures that would be considered hard left Democratic policies in America. And European leaders are typically not religious zealots who constantly invoke God, Jesus and the Bible, that belong to vaguely Christian cults. I don't even know what Magyar Péter's religious denomination is, let alone how religious he actually is.

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LavenderBlueProf 4 days ago -2

cool now do trump

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