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supercyberlurker 3 days ago +702

.. and Trump never spoke of it again. If a reporter asks him about it, he'll call that reporter a disgrace, their employer a loser, and then call everyone 'out' and ignore the question.

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arvigeus 3 days ago +107

A more realistic scenario: Trump blaming Zelensky for not being ready for a prisoner swap. "If Putin says so, then it must be true. Why would he lie?"

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Reasonable-Brief306 3 days ago +226

But… the Orange man said he got Putin to agree. God this shit is just pathetic. I can’t wait to see what Ukraine’s response to this will be.

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asddde 2 days ago +7

I am sure they absolutely expected this to happen, whatever the exact plan is.

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ThenExtension9196 2 days ago +7

Yup they knew this was going to happen. IMO it’s to show other European countries that USA is not a reliable arbiter and that they are better off supporting Ukraine even more.

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OddDot724 2 days ago +5

Im gunna put my bet on more drones will be ukraines response

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Ellydir 3 days ago +424

Hold up, wasn't this part of the ceasefire agreement? So like what, Putin agreed to it, did his little parade that Ukraine allowed him, and then said he changed his mind about the whole deal?

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ButterscotchOk5339 3 days ago +411

It’s almost like a russian’s word are as useful as their fart.

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asddde 2 days ago +4

Yes, bit sad some people haven't noted the simplest of facts that Trump is also a russian.

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Ellydir 1 day ago +1

Is this news actually legit though? It's been three days, and I've yet to see it mentioned anywhere else.

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ButterscotchOk5339 1 day ago +1

I don’t know about the exchange to be honest, but my statement stands regardless. Multiple sources have reported that the shitstains in the east broke the ceasefire.

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WayAdmirable150 3 days ago +103

Its so funny to look at people, who still believe anything russians says.

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czs5056 3 days ago +33

Sounds about par for the course.

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PayaV87 3 days ago +16

I mean, they say the most obvious and most transparent lies and people still fell for it.

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uMunthu 3 days ago +20

It’s worst than that. Putin unilaterally decreed a ceasefire for his parade. The Ukrainians told him to get wrecked. So Putin called his intern to weight on them. The Ukrainians told the intern they want something out of it before they agree. The intern did the back and forth until they settled on the POW exchange. But by the time all this was settled, the parade was basically starting. EDIT:spelling, now that I’ve had my coffee

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asddde 2 days ago +2

To be fair the parade was indeed pathetic, so at least they have that excuse to run.

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Wompatuckrule 2 days ago +1

Ended up with probably fewer people in the parade than in the proposed prisoner swap.

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lanfordr 2 days ago +2

Oh boy, I should tell you about the time Ukraine gave up it's nukes in exchange for security guarantees from Russia. Good thing Russia never breaks their promises.

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Strayed8492 3 days ago +402

So the ceasefire is null and void. Russia wasn’t ready for one.

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Reasonable-Brief306 3 days ago +168

Never has, never will be.

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peepee2tiny 3 days ago +145

But the Victory Day celebration is over so it doesn't matter

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thhvancouver 3 days ago +98

To be fair it was over in 45 minutes. He was so paranoid that even with the ceasefire in place he only dared to run the parade for 45 minutes, and without any meaningful military machines or leadership. So he never needed a ceasefire anyway.

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Filthyquak 3 days ago +20

I think it was a symbolic act from Ukraine to show Russian people that they support celebrating a win against Nazis and to destroy the "Ukrainians are Nazis" narrative in some heads.

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yenot_of_luv 3 days ago +14

> to destroy the "Ukrainians are Nazis" narrative in some heads. If only it was working like that for that type of people! I don't think you can change the mind of those that easily

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SendStoreCitroner 3 days ago +5

To my knowledge the problem is not the parade but the assembly points the days before and after where a lot of equipment could be jucy targets.

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Rassomir 3 days ago +5

What equipment?

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Ok_Complex8873 3 days ago -3

russians keep manufacturing a lot of tanks and infantry fighting vehicles. They are not seen at the front lines, but they are away from the the front lines.

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Evol_extra 3 days ago +3

How is this related to parade? Where is this vehicles?

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Strayed8492 3 days ago +1

Putin didn’t want the airports disrupted by possible drone activity. He wanted people in and out in a two day window.

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Wompatuckrule 2 days ago +1

Don't forget that there was a huge buildup of air defense systems around Moscow for it. Moscow is well within reach of Ukraine's drones & other attacks and the numbers of them fired off show that their production capabilities are rising.

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Desertcow 3 days ago +25

It was a 4km ceasefire around the parade for the duration of the parade, wasn't much of a ceasefire to begin with

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xmuskorx 3 days ago +142

man, trump surely likes to be seen as Putin's b****.

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Reasonable-Brief306 3 days ago +52

He thoroughly enjoys having Putin’s balls in his mouth

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TheCrippledKing 3 days ago +93

So his reasoning is that Ukraine didn't agree to a previous swapp, despite Zelenskyy publically agreeing to the 1000 for 1000 swap? You know that Ukraine will just correctly spin this as Putin not caring about his soldiers and refusing to swap for them. That oughta help his ratings.

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Ok_Complex8873 3 days ago +11

No spinning required. Everyone knows that russians do not care about their pow.

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ZeGaskMask 3 days ago +25

This is why you don’t capitulate with fascist. There is no line they will not cross. There is no such thing as a mutual agreement. All deals are made to achieve their own goals. Putin didn’t agree to a ceasefire to conduct a prisoner exchange, he wanted a ceasefire to have his special parade. Once he got what he wanted, the rest of the agreement ceased to mater.

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Ihavenoideatall 3 days ago +37

Perhaps, Putin has really back himself into a corner that has no return.

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Utgaard_Loke 3 days ago +17

Yet another of Putins promises that he did not hold. He just wanted safety before his parade before he went back to the bunker.

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Snors 3 days ago +43

Shoulda just Flamingoed his parade.

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kekarook1 3 days ago +4

i think thats what putin wanted, he wanted Ukraine to either attack and fail, proving russia might, or succeed, and htats why he didnt actually stock it iwth any tanks, as he expected them to get destroyed here, and Ukraine outsmarted him by attacking everything but the parade, and thats why hes being pissy

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nullbyte420 3 days ago +32

Trump has this deranged strategy of announcing what was agreed + something extra he wants. He did that with the Denmark/Greenland situation as well, where he claims that they agreed to have frequent diplomatic meetings (true) and that the goal of the meetings was to find a way to give Greenland to Trump (completely false). I can't really figure out how it's supposed to work, it seems like it always just ends up on the other part correcting him and he either gets mad about it or forgets about the whole thing.

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sweetcell 23 hr ago +1

it works by moving the goalposts: he'll boast about the first half that he got right, and either ignore, deflect or change the second half that didn't happen: he never said that, it was taken out of context, the democrats/ukrainians/deep state/msm/etc. prevented it, etc. (and he'll throw in a personal attack on whoever had the insolence to ask the question)... and his followers will gobble it up.

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not_just_putin 3 days ago +36

Exactly what happens when you trust russians. They always lie.

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BigPickleKAM 3 days ago +24

Putin would hate to allow thousand of military aged men with training and a possible axe to grind with him back into the country,

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KaonWarden 3 days ago +15

They’re sending them right back to the frontlines, so they’ve solved that problem. Can’t have disgruntled veterans if no one comes back. At this stage, it’s more useful to think of Russian military commanders as death camp commanders.

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sweetcell 23 hr ago +2

this. there are many documented cases of returned russian pows that went straight from the exchange site to a military unit - not even given the chance to go home, see their families, etc. all soldiers are less than worthless to russian leadership, but returning pows are even worse: they are an informed liability. anyone coming back from ukraine's pow camps is a huge risk to the russian system and narratives. they were told that the ukrainians would torture them, instead they were treated humanly - AKA better than how their commanders treated them while they were "free". can't have that kind of information and ensuing questioning infecting gen pop...

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Lakefish_ 3 days ago +6

Putin doesnt have any prisoners, and most of the ones Ukraine took don't want to go back? Thats my guess!

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Valsion20 3 days ago +6

I'm gonna take a wild guess and assume Russia offered a single prisoner in exchange for Ukraine's complete and total surrender.

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mfbrucee 3 days ago +9

Putin knows 1000 Ukrainians are worth much, much more than 1000 russians.

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Derrickful 3 days ago +1

There's a documentary that shows that the Russia's front line fighters are white haired guys and foreigners.

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androshalforc1 3 days ago +18

TBF i dont believe Ukraine would have ever attacked the parade anyway, too many civilians. they lost nothing by agreeing to the ceasefire, and gained a bargaining chip

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sweetcell 23 hr ago +1

ukraine did give up the opportunity to hit every other target in russia that was, at the time, less defended since so much air defense was concentrated in moscow. now that the parade is over, those AD assets will be returned to the field to protect infrastructure, military installment, etc. with the AD back in place, UA will get less bang for the buck.

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androshalforc1 22 hr ago +2

Yeah my understanding at the time was that this was just the red square ceasefire. And not the larger one.

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dimwalker 3 days ago +3

And that's why you just can't trust russians.

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No_Conversation_9325 3 days ago +7

He had his exhibitionist kink parade and now he’s back to being a demented troll

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joybai3 3 days ago +3

Is he still hiding??

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HorseyDung 3 days ago +5

Yawn... Russians never change..

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CrewMemberNumber6 3 days ago +5

Putin’s days are numbered, and he knows it. A bottle of the good stuff awaits.

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Inemo86 3 days ago +2

Didn't they just do a 100 man swap ?

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ragebait_hater 2 days ago +2

At this point it seems to me that Ukraine is purposefully doing this to humiliate Trump. There is no way they didn't expect this to happen.

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sweetcell 23 hr ago +1

slightly different take: he is doing this to further highlight trump's unreliability and powerlessness - with the europeans being the target audience. the message is: trump can't defend you, you need ukraine's military to ensure your security (so, about the EU membership we were talking about...)

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bappestinian 3 days ago +4

Should have never agreed to the ceasefire in the first place.

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IdiotBOT1234 3 days ago +2

Thin, rodent like lips move the lies coming out.

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GreatMinds1234 3 days ago +1

He just knows what Ukraine is ready for, don't he?

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Derrickful 3 days ago +1

But Trump said so.

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NemTren 2 days ago +1

So putin means russia has less pows than Ukraine at this moment?

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Dresden_1174 2 days ago +1

He just wanted to make sure his pathetic Victory Day parade didn’t get attacked by drones on camera. Now that it’s over, he doesn’t have to worry until next year.

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unematti 3 days ago -14

Sending Russian prisoners home at this point would mean sending them to die, so... Maybe it's better for the most amount of people?

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ManchurianMango 3 days ago +21

Main thing is getting Ukrainians home, they are constantly being tortured in Russian prisons.

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oh-delay 3 days ago +17

Russians solders are fighting an imperialist war of conquest and genocide, Ukrainian soldiers are fighting for freedom and the survival of their state. So while they all have human rights, after that they don’t count the same. Like comparing a criminal vs a lawful citizen.

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unematti 3 days ago -13

Yeah, i wouldn't send a criminal to his death either. And the Russian people have been for decades propagandised to, a big portion of these soldiers are victims themselves.

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sweetcell 23 hr ago +1

certainly isn't best for the 1000 ukrainian pows being tortured in russian concentration camps, nor their families. plenty of stories of russian families not really caring about their pows, in fact some are annoyed the soldier wasn't killed since pows don't get payouts from the state. so if our metric is best outcome for most people and we want to boil it down to numbers, they way i see it: 1000 UA pows + many concerned UA families >>> 1000 RU pows + fewer concerned RU families

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