They were fine with Ukrainians dying, but when mobile internet is disrupted in some regions - putin's rating goes down.
913
Bad_Finance_Advisor3 days ago
+317
For many, quality of life is more important than some military misadventure...
317
Lopsided-Affect-96493 days ago
+139
For many Russians, sure. We saw their responses to the Bucha massacre on telegram, so hardly surprising that they find spotty mobile phone coverage a bigger problem than genociding their neighbors.
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TrickshotCandy3 days ago
+32
And family! Let's not forget the close relations split over the border.
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Magnus_Helgisson1 day ago
+2
I have so many people having told me about their last conversations with their relatives in russia where they’ve been trying to reason with them and the talk ended up with “I hope you get blown up” from the russian side.
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Haliucinogenas13 days ago
+24
Because genociding neighbors is a normal thing they were practicing for a very long time
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drunkenbrawler3 days ago
+55
It's not a russian thing. Americans are very blasé about civilians dying in the countries they bomb, but freak out over high gas prices.
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Kakkoister2 days ago
+25
Sure but there is still a huge portion of the US protesting those things. Russia's core culture is basically apathy and depression.
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Public-Finger2 days ago
+21
Yea, it's absolutely a false equivalence. russians vastly retain their imperialistic mindset, it's the very foundation of the russian state since Muscovy expanded from a backwater to a land empire. They care far less about their quality of life than the size of their territory on a map. Always got money for wars but can't feed the poor, yet you don't see massive discontent. There's a reason why this isn't just "Putin's war."
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Haliucinogenas12 days ago
+3
I could not say any better- but I would add that russian government has a very brutal way to silence any dissents you know- everything for the motherland
3
Litty_Again2 days ago
+1
Spot on
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Radamat2 days ago
+1
Are you speaking about oligarchs or civilians?
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Cringe_King_922 days ago
+1
You won't go in jail for protesting in the US
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_g4n3sh_2 days ago
"huge portion of the US protesting" is a big hyperbole
There's about the same proportion of people really protesting in both countries
0
PitifulDraft4332 days ago
+7
Hmmm. Sources?
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_g4n3sh_2 days ago
-11
I've been all over both countries for a long while
-11
[deleted]2 days ago
+8
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Litty_Again2 days ago
+2
hahah :P this was funny, thought the same thing as you lmao this kid ganish... just a pathetic liar
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Litty_Again2 days ago
+5
pathetic scrub
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Fantastic_Scar_66012 days ago
+1
I can see rat
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Kakkoister2 days ago
+2
Cool, show me the protests happening in Russia similar to things like No Kings or BLM.
Show me the opposition party against the current dictator in power that a majority of the country has been shown to support.
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xylitpro2 days ago
+8
You do realize protesting in a dictatorship is a different thing than in a democracy don't you? Opposition are literally killed off by Putin. Protesting gets you beaten up and jailed. No US citizen would protest under these circumstances.
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futurafrlx2 days ago
+2
Good luck protesting in a dictatorship. You'll be captured and beat up by the police in no time. Probably drafted then too. A lot of people hate the regime, but they are scared for their life and remain silent.
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_g4n3sh_2 days ago
+1
There's no need for government-absorved organizations that are used like that, as in, there's no like for like
You're free to go ask the people in the street though, they'll tell you openly if you can get through their social "shell"
Those beyond the point. By same proportion it means that in both countries no one is doing jack shit trying to get change done
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Fantastic_Scar_66012 days ago
+2
I saw american protests. Now show me russian.
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Martoxic3 days ago
+17
for pretty much everyone. If it doesn't effect you then why care? is a pretty common way of thinking.
17
Sometimes-funny3 days ago
+28
“Military misadventure” you mean deliberately invading the country next door? Many of the people there have connections and family in Russia too.
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Litty_Again2 days ago
+1
Yeah, what a weird statement. Misadventure oh just casually getting all these people killed by the hundreds of thousands and maimed for the rest of their life. This should never be forgiven by the international community. Is the world outside of Europe not seeing this? What the hell man. This is a direct state actor doing these things. Russia is the cancer of the world.
1
___Random_Guy_1 day ago
+1
I think they meant it as more about how russians treat it rather then what it actually is
1
Living_Cash10373 days ago
+1
I feel like thats a good chunk of Russians lol
1
t-earlgrey-hot2 days ago
+1
Its true but its weird to frame this as a misadventures with 100s of thousands of casualties
1
True_Window_93893 days ago
+31
Kinda true anywhere. Most people are at least fairly content as long as their day to day lives can go on. It’s why Americans aren’t in the streets over Iran, or why North Koreans aren’t overthrowing the Kim regime. It’s always a cost-benefit analysis by every person to go on about your life, or risk it by protesting or revolting. It generally takes quite a lot to get people into changing their minds, getting them into the streets, and taking further action. It’s a last resort when life becomes untenable, not a first reaction on bad policy.
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Somenakedguy3 days ago
+130
As if the US is any different
The only thing really hurting Trump is the economic fallout of our own war
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WestleyMc3 days ago
+60
I was going to same the same, they literally couldn’t give af until gas prices went up lol
60
DGlen3 days ago
+19
Trumpets will still blame the rising gas prices on Biden anyway
19
Chillhoof3 days ago
+18
My biggest disappointment is not Trump, it's the American people. They should be on the streets every single day, 24/7, forcing this clown off his throne. The fact that such a great nation watches a mental child f***** sully their country and destroy the relations with all of their friends and allies blows my mind.
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Emmystra3 days ago
+2
A lot of us are. The issue is the media is not reporting on it, and that we are each in individual states which don’t have a significant effect on the federal government. It would be very difficult to effectively protest against the EU from within Germany, for instance.
As an example: If every New Yorker went on the street and protested, it could bring the state of New York to its knees - which would only be a win for Trump, so it’s not actually effective for people in this state to protest.
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lonelyMtF2 days ago
+5
>federal government
>It would be very difficult to effectively protest against the EU from within Germany, for instance.
Germany also has a federal government. A Bundesland is the equivalent of a state. It's nonsense to think that individual EU countries are like US states, each is its own country, while US states are like Bundesländer, or French administrative regions.
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Emmystra2 days ago
+9
Yes, it does, but that is NOTHING like the US federal government. The US federal government is more than double the scale of the entire EU. It is much more effective to protest in Germany because it’s only the size of 3 US states. Protesting in most US states has zero effect on the federal government because they are often physically further from that governing body than the entire width of Europe. The entirety of Europe is about 1340 miles wide, while California is 2800 miles from Washington DC. Washington State is nearly as far away from Florida as the width of the Atlantic Ocean.
I’ve been to a protest almost every weekend since January and it’s gotten near-zero news coverage. The federal government and the news do not care about us. Last time it was reported on, all that happened was Trump posted an AI video of him shitting on us. I’m also trans, and it’s driving me insane.
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Puglady252 days ago
+5
I'm just reading, but I'd like to give you a virtual hug. Thank you for fighting the good fight, and for being so brave. 🩵🤍🩷
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Litty_Again2 days ago
+1
respect for your comment, good luck.
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Significant-Part89362 days ago
-1
This is not true. Europe is comparable in width to the US and by total area is slightly larger than the US. Even separating into Eastern/Western Europe it would still be well over 2000 miles
you cherry picked a narrow measure measure of Europe while using a long cross country distance for America.
-1
Emmystra2 days ago
+6
I cherry picked narrow measures for the US as well, always erring on the side of smaller numbers. The exact EU distance I used was the distance from London to Kiev.
You’re entitled to your opinion, but it’s really just a pedantic argument when the bottom line is that a protestor against the Iran war who lives in California is protesting a war happening 7000 miles away from them being perpetrated by a federal government 2800 miles away from them. How can that possibly ever be effective, especially when the news ignores the protest?
I’m from NY. I protested 2 weeks ago, am protesting this weekend, and regularly am going to Bernie Sanders’ anti-Trump rallies. These things are just not being reported on, and I live in a state that didn’t vote for Trump in a city where people who did vote for him need to lie about their vote to avoid being ostracized. When Biden won the previous election, we celebrated in the streets. We are trying, but it isn’t doing anything. There isn’t much of anything going on here to protest, our local governments are entirely Democrats who are endlessly trying to fight Trump. We can stand and yell outside Trump Tower NYC, but he’s in Mar A Lago Florida.
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Litty_Again2 days ago
+1
Yeah it does seems kinda useless to me aswell, im from europe. so how can you guys do anything about these kind of stuff normally? how did the huge protests like BLM etc gain traction, is that just bought off by very rich people to get the most attention? just curious. i do know alot of media in the US has been coerced heavily by your trump administration. i really am afraid that your countrys freedom is actually at stake currently. sorry to say it.
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Emmystra2 days ago
+1
BLM was a viral movement that was growing over social media and exploded due to repeated publicly reported murders of black people by police. This is actually the kind of thing Trump is trying to make happen by sending ICE to terrorize communities - if we have a similar movement form today, it will be used to justify martial law style governing and set us back. Freedom could be at stake, but it’s also hard to attack here due to the same reasons protest is ineffective - I’m a NY state citizen far from them who has a friendly layer of state government between me and the federal government in a place where state’s rights are near impossible to argue against. All this depends on rule of law being maintained though.
The other thing I’ve been thinking about a lot is what if people grouped up, traveled to the states and places that do matter to the Trump administration and protest THERE. At the same time though, that costs money, risks their jobs, and frankly I’m worried that by the time people are willing to do that en-masse, they’ll be ready to just have a regular civil war instead.
1
Tacti_Kel_Nuke2 days ago
+2
People have jobs and need to pay for food. Unless there's a famine, the water dries or the lights goes off nobody is gonna protest 24/7
2
Litty_Again2 days ago
+5
K well then good luck to their future with their cherished freedom.
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SuperVaderMinion3 days ago
+8
I mean Trump's approval rating has been hanging around the mid to low 40s for basically this entire term, the gas price stuff has just been the first thing to plunge it further down into uncharted territory.
That's still stupid low compared to Putin
8
lifeinthebeastwing3 days ago
+2
150 million %
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Unfair-Protection3003 days ago
-3
there are a lot of us Americans who do things everyday to try and make improvements. whether it's with our family our community or our country. for those of you reading this don't give up and don't let bullshit like this make you think what you're doing doesn't make a difference.
-3
Somenakedguy3 days ago
+13
You could say the exact same thing about some of the normal Russian civilians trapped in a war they didn’t choose and can’t control
I’m not sure you get the point I was making
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Unfair-Protection3001 day ago
+1
I didnt think you had a point, i just saw a defeatest attitude and wanted others to know to stay strong. Those in russia should stay strong too, they get killed for political dissent so I think equating the two cheapens their experience.
1
NODENGINEER3 days ago
+5
There is a reason they are doing everything they can not to disrupt the daily life in Moscow and St.Petersburg
5
Larkson99993 days ago
+10
Sounds like another third world country with nukes that's run by a fascist dictator.
10
EasyRider_Suraj3 days ago
+10
As if Americans and Europeans ever cared about the millions of people their governments killed in just last few decades.
10
Kingdarkshadow3 days ago
+2
It stops being fine when they are affected.
2
ReggieCorneus3 days ago
+2
There is only one Russia that matters: Russia Proper. If life is easy and simple there, few hundred thousand deaths in the peripheries is not a problem. The moment hardships hit Russia Proper.... Then they care.
2
Basketbally2 days ago
+1
Many American Conservatives were fine with civilians being bombed until it meant they had to pay more for gas. This is human nature.
1
Free-Resolution93932 days ago
+1
And you think his rating matters? Never in his life he participated personally in any of his own election campaigns
1
Ok_Pineapple18321 day ago
+1
[ Removed by Listnook ]
1
postusa23 days ago
-1
Fine also with Russians dying
-1
apachelives3 days ago
+109
Down to just 7 out of 5.
109
DEEP_HURTING3 days ago
+55
[Kim Jong-Il's Approval Rating Plummets to 120%- The Onion](https://theonion.com/in-the-know-kim-jong-ils-approval-rating-plummets-to-1-1819594629/)
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Iamarealbouy2 days ago
+3
Sir, the good news is that Your approval rating is still 100%
..so what's the bad news?
Well, the respondent pool is just 38 people.
Why is it so low?
Because we put the 2.462 dissapproving respondents in jail.
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HubrisSnifferBot3 days ago
+194
The great thing about being an autocrat is that the only approval rating that matters is whether the folks with the guns still like you.
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Hatchie_473 days ago
+39
That may be the case, but it still interacts. When the angry mob grows large enough the folks with guns might start to fear it more than the autocrat. Also they don’t like being told to shoot their own relatives and acquitances who may be part of the mob.
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konacoffie3 days ago
+17
I don’t see a popular revolution being successful in a modern fully autocratic state like Russia. Iran showed you could just import guys from other regions and have them shoot the people in the streets. Russia’s been successful at cracking down on mass protest even without overt mass killings. Mass arrests, job blacklisting, the occasional assassination here and there. There may be regional/ethnic uprisings in areas like Chechnya but a mass popular uprising that poses a genuine threat to the Putin regime is incredibly unlikely.
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PomegranatePublic8253 days ago
+20
Haha no. There are currently no conditions for any angry mob to form and the first protesters are all in prison getting their balls electrocuted.
As long as the 350k strong Rosgvardia are still getting their pay checks, ain't nobody toppling the Putin regime. You think they didn't learn their lesson the last time the Tsar had his family killed?
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Gargamel8133 days ago
+10
And they like you only if you can pay them so that's where the problems usually come from.
10
adamgerd3 days ago
+9
Honestly I think this is part of why Putin doesn’t want to end the war, then he’d have to deal with hundreds of thousands of angry demobilised veterans
Right now he can just send them to die in Ukraine
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Valuable-Bet-22073 days ago
+2
Well said
2
sh0tgunben3 days ago
+163
Russia-Ukraine war has been depressingly long
163
4DollarsALB3 days ago
+30
It's one of those conflicts that is so perplexing to me.
By any measure Russia is worse off for it, they are years away from winning. But no sign that either Putin is willing to call it off and even with this article he still has a sky high approval rating compared to any Western leader
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Fun-Communication6603 days ago
+20
If you change Russia to Putinstan then it makes sense. Your mistake is the assumption that "Russia being worse off" is anywhere near the equation.
The penguins of the south pole have been worse off since the invasion started too. Putin doesn't take them I to account.
Also, the sky high approval rating is low for a propagandised population of yes men that might even fear to disapprove on a poll.
Putin is not worried about the polls. (He might be worried about the poles though 😄)
He doesn't care how much he marks higher than a western countries current leader.
He needs to care about the threshold of support that might trigger a coup, an uprising or just an easy backstabbing.
That threshold is much much lower in Russia.
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Litty_Again2 days ago
+2
yep, very true. good to see you know alot about Russia. more western (i assume? sorry) people should know this kind of stuff, imo
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xX609s-hartXx3 days ago
+61
Death throws of an empire tend to drag out...
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Ok_Literature69533 days ago
+35
It's "throes" you goof.
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Informal_Witness38693 days ago
+17
Death throbs
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Duguilang3 days ago
+8
Death strokes
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Winchester2703 days ago
+5
English is weird
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Jimemac3 days ago
+14
He meant Death Saving throws like DnD. Russia is hoping China will cast heal pet on them.
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Ok_Literature69533 days ago
+3
Roll low!
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lightspuzzle3 days ago
+7
would have been shorter,the u.s would not have helped russians.
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Hodr3 days ago
+49
Do we suddenly trust surveys about the government from Russia now?
Unless they somehow guaranteed 100 percent anonymity i don't see how you could trust the results.
I've seen too many videos of just random people on the street being asked what they think about the war or Putin and they start looking around like there might be a man in a black suit holding a gun to their babushka before they answer.
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origamiscienceguy3 days ago
+16
It's actually pretty genius how they word these questions in a way that gives every respondant plausible deniability.
They'll ask one group: "Of the following, how many do you approve of: Zelensky, Orban, Trump, Netanyahu"
And they'll ask another group "Of the following, how many do you approve of: Zelensky, Orban, Trump, Netanyahu, Putin"
And then they can measure the difference in the two groups and do some fancy math to determine how many approve of putin.
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kagoolx2 days ago
+2
That’s interesting, do you have a link to more info on how that works? I can’t quite get my head around it
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origamiscienceguy21 hr ago
+2
It is one of many strategies for accounting for biases in places where respondents answer untruthfully out of fear. You can read about the specifics of this strategy and others in papers like this one:
[https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13510347.2021.1981867#d1e182](https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/13510347.2021.1981867#d1e182)
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kagoolx20 hr ago
+1
Thanks very much for taking the time to share this, I’ll give it a good read
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WhatsTheGoalieDoing2 days ago
+1
No, they don't have a link.
Source: his butt.
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MistakeNot__3 days ago
+15
Don't need to trust them. Even skewed and manipulated data can be useful, if you know in which direction it's being "adjusted". If Russian state reports X, and X looks bad for Russia, you can't be sure about the exact state of affairs surrounding X. But you can be absolutely sure that X is not faring better than reported. And that is an insight in and of itself.
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Green_Burn3 days ago
+4
I am getting random calls from VCIOM sometimes (Russian statistics poll thingie) but i am not answering the questions because i just don’t trust them not being scammers fishing for info, or even if they are actually them i don’t trust that the results would be used beneficially.
But i am not really personally scared that they would come for silly random old me just from official poll answers, that just would be a waste of resources for them
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gaflar2 days ago
+2
> Political analyst Abbas Gallyamov, cited by The Moscow Times, noted that, back in 2015, trust in Putin had reached 71%, but this figure has since halved. He added that the publication of such data may soon cease altogether, given the increasingly negative trend.
> Experts point out that the official approval ratings, which VTsIOM tends to maintain near 70%, are not an accurate reflection of public support. Instead, they are seen as a measure of fear, showing the number of people who are willing to express their dissatisfaction with the president despite the potential consequences. Research suggests that this number is increasing, with more individuals willing to voice their concerns about Putin’s leadership.
Sometimes it helps to read the article and not just the headline.
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Xan_derous3 days ago
+12
Now its down to 105% + or - 5%
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Hinermad3 days ago
+8
I have to wonder just how anonymous Russia's polls are.
Headlines:
April 10: "Putin's approval rating lowest since 2022"
April 17: "Wave of fatal accidents strikes Russia; Kremlin vows to investigate"
April 24: "Putin's approval rating highest in history."
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Tiny-Albatross5183 days ago
+7
Down to an all time low of 96% approval.
Watch this space for more vital statistics from Russian world news service!
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NeoIsJohnWick3 days ago
+6
As if this is going to matter lmao.
He will be the next President anyways, even if they have elections.
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wiseoldfox3 days ago
+1
Down to 97%?
1
Discrete-Sleuth-13183 days ago
+5
I’m sure this will severely impact his chances of winning the next election. /s
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MeBollasDellero3 days ago
+20
Who cares? What are they going to do about it? Hold No Kings protests…over and over?! 🤪
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RevolutionarySide2983 days ago
+6
Don’t hold your breath looking for a no kings protest in Moscow…..
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Ultra_Metal3 days ago
+16
Putin destroyed Russia. A once powerful nation has been reduced to a weak and pathetic terrorist state that most of the world hates.
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Then-Ad-3453 days ago
+6
Let's hope he finishes the job this time. His predecessors did a half arsed job. It always was a pathetic terrorist state most of the world hated. Comes with being pricks to everyone all the time.
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luisa65-L3 days ago
+4
When even your completely fabricated, state-mandated poll numbers start tanking, you know the actual situation on the ground is absolutely dire.
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Gh0sth4nd3 days ago
+4
Like it would make any difference at all. He will rule Russia till he is dead.
And Trump wants the same with the USA.
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badpeoria3 days ago
+10
Ohh what did it fall to 99.99%?
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punnybiznatch3 days ago
+3
67.8%
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Angryceo3 days ago
+6
Kind of weird considering he "won" 2024 in a "landmark" slide with no real competition.
This is just showing really how corrupt their elections are.
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Several-Opposite-7463 days ago
+2
Step 1. Jail and kill opposition leaders.
Step 2. Win landslide victory.
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funtimes-forall3 days ago
+3
I'm amazed there are actual ratings.
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ChaseballBat2 days ago
+3
Lowest level of 99.98% the Kremlin reports.
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ShadowmanePX412 days ago
+3
Dang. His approval rating fell from 100% to 99%?
What a shame. Looks like he'll have to send Russia's finest 'vote repairman' to sort this problem out.
(All jokes aside, GOOD. This man deserves everything that he gets for kickstarting the geopolitical chaos and armageddon this planet's been seeing in the past few years.)
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Alan1572 days ago
+2
Gonna win by 95% instead of 98%
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haxic2 days ago
+2
I’d love to see Putin, Orban and Trump go this year. One can always dream right…
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DazedinDenver2 days ago
+2
And those "Russian sociologists'" may well face falling to their lowest level from windows.
2
pre_pun2 days ago
+2
Has he tried having Vance Couchman come endorse him?
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UrineArtist2 days ago
+2
32% of Russians about to accidentally fall out of a window.
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Bostonpeterock772 days ago
+2
Some think he lost the last election, but what can they really do
2
Horror_Match98672 days ago
+2
No worries Vlad, Donny still loves you! ♥️
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Strayed84922 days ago
+2
Without internet for Russians to pretend they aren’t living in Russia that is bound to happen
2
bigbaltfun2 days ago
+2
And the poll takers accidently fell out a 20 story window.
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Peter225B2 days ago
+2
Putin keeps sending kids into the meat grinder.
2
Ok_Flower71573 days ago
+3
iran war created a window russia needed to export oil without competition hormuz closure pushed buyers to russia now the ceasefire is the problem
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Mother_Airline_62763 days ago
+2
Bruh. How pointless is an article about Putin’s approval rating?
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AlternativeNarrow1923 days ago
+1
Whatever the numbers say, it’s always notable when public sentiment shifts it can sometimes be a sign that dialogue and perspectives are evolving
1
Blackboard_Monitor3 days ago
+1
Really seems like his supporters and Trump's have the same mindset, 'evil things are fine until they affect me.'
1
woleykram3 days ago
+1
Based on this headline, it won't be the only thing falling in Russia in the coming days and weeks.
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Hewinb3 days ago
+1
Like approval ratings mean jack shit in RuSSia.
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mick6013 days ago
+1
Trump is taking him down with him
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Retro19893 days ago
+1
Good job the voting is rigged in Russia otherwise he would panic come election time.
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lightspuzzle3 days ago
+1
they dont care about that over there.
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Huge_Campaign22053 days ago
+1
As if that matters
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CharcoalGreyWolf3 days ago
+1
I thought Putin just had a “Yes, I don’t want prison, what was the question Comrade?” rating
1
HollowRacoon2 days ago
+1
So 98 from 99 boohoo
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themrdemonized2 days ago
+1
there is no such thing as approval rating in russia
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GlobalTravelR3 days ago
+1
If you have complaints about Putin in Russia... the government is happy to listen to them. Kindly step through this window and express your unhappiness.
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Prok-3 days ago
+1
Uno de los estafadores más grandes de la historia
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MysteriousQuote46653 days ago
+1
I thought Putin's approval was 100%?
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asdhjasdhlkjashdhgf3 days ago
+3
how many putins are in 100%. The dude is on borrowed time.
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BassyTobe3 days ago
+1
Nevertheless more than 394% of all russians voted for him every year. Fair and square!
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oranurpianist3 days ago
+1
If Listnook was to be believed, Russia completely lost the war 41 times and Putin is unpopular and close to death every Tuesday
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YusoLOCO3 days ago
Name a more pointless article, I'll wait ..
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ReggieCorneus3 days ago
So, from 99% to 98.5%, with defenestrations increasing by 400%.
0
ChrisGaming823 days ago
-1
Guys, we are running out of news? Does anyone have anymore news? Shit! Nope all out? Well shucks.
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