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News & Current Events Mar 30, 2026 at 9:09 AM

Report: Spain Closes Airspace to US Planes Involved in Iran War

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Spain Shuts Airspace for US Planes Involved in Iran War
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Spain Shuts Airspace for US Planes Involved in Iran War
Spain's leftist government has closed Spanish airspace to US planes carrying out missions against Iran, in addition to denying Washington use of its bases, the defense minister said on Monday.  "The bases are not authorized, and of course neither is the use of Spanish airspace for actions related to the war in Iran," Margarita Robles told journalists, confirming a report by El Pais daily.  Spain's refusal to cooperate has "complicated" US military operations by forcing bombers to change their routes and logistics on their way to the Middle East, El Pais reported.
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Desperate-Hearing-55 Mar 30, 2026 +4639
500% tariffs incoming for Spain.
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jesjimher Mar 30, 2026 +1613
Oh yeah, more fantasy taxes that can't be applied, because Spain is part of the EU? That will surely teach Spain a lesson.
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curious_dead Mar 30, 2026 +538
If he were competent, he would target products from the EU that happen to come specifically from Spain. But then, if he were, he wouldn't be in this mess to begin with.
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User929261 Mar 30, 2026 +219
You cannot, China tried with Lithuania after they opened an embassy in Taiwan.
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metallicrooster Mar 30, 2026 +149
From what I understand, many of the trade restrictions were in place for 3 to 4 years. Lithuania didn’t care because they barely trade with China, but China *did* target Lithuanian products.
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rtb001 Mar 30, 2026 +47
New prime minister Inga Ruginiene describing her countty's decision to go against China as "I think Lithuania really jumped in front of a train and lost" is certainly one way to characterize how they "don't care"....
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CV90_120 Mar 30, 2026 +28
At least they tried. Everybody just rolls over for superpowers which keeps them superpowers.
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WingedGundark Mar 30, 2026 +42
I think he meant that US could target product gategories from EU that Spain exports a lot to the US. Little bit how EU has done, for example applying counter tariffs to US made spirits which hit red states like Kentucky most and more specifically Bourbon manufacturers. Trump can't understand strategically, he just slaps blanket tariffs.
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[deleted] Mar 30, 2026 +16
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EditRemove Mar 30, 2026 +7
Liquor 43 is so good. I learned recently it's a product of Spain.
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fbass Mar 30, 2026 +178
MAGAs would begin to insult Spanish in social media, but mixed up with the Mexicans
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Infamous_Employer_85 Mar 30, 2026 +25
> MAGAs Most of them likely think that people in Mexico speak "Mexican"
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MoreCowbellllll Mar 30, 2026 +44
WhA caN'T thE PlaNEs JUSt lANd?? ThEY're HeRO's!!
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SWK18 Mar 30, 2026 +58
They can try. Insults in English, especially by Americans, are several tiers below Spanish insults.
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alex_zk Mar 30, 2026 +22
You know what? As a Slav, I would throw in a few of our insults as a backup for Spain, for shits and giggles
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PleasureCircuit Mar 30, 2026 +3
Persian insults are on Shakespearean levels of depth as well.
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KFR42 Mar 30, 2026 +17
"Tariff the fish candy!" "But sir, those are Swedish, and not really from Sweden anyway so....." "I said tariff the god damn fish!"
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ThrowAwaAlpaca Mar 30, 2026 +250
Yes please more taxes on americans. Edit: damn that triggered some magats. Facts are hard aren't they? Maybe one day you'll understand how tariffs actually work but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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JohnHazardWandering Mar 30, 2026 +129
"Tread on me harder, Daddy!"
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havingsomedifficulty Mar 30, 2026 +17
Nearly 100% support by his own people- completely mind blowing
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Minttt Mar 30, 2026 +3
I'm not surprised at all - what has changed about Donald Trump that someone who supported him now, last year, 2024, 2020, etc., would suddenly say: "It sounded good at first, but now it's a no from me, dawg"?
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No_Performance_8657 Mar 30, 2026 +29
They’ll bE bEgGiNg tO mAkE A dEaL
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ElXavi2 Mar 30, 2026 +33
Don't threaten us with a good time increasing costs to American buyers
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Antique_Tone3719 Mar 30, 2026 +29
Only to be reversed by Monday
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mollila Mar 30, 2026 +17
No, first a 7 day extension.
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tlst9999 Mar 30, 2026 +6
Then, a day 6 100 million bet on the polymarkets.
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Longjumping_Kale3013 Mar 30, 2026 +24
Except it would have to be on the whole EU
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_crows_have_eyes Mar 30, 2026 +3
1 MILLION YEARS DUNGEON NO TRIAL!!!
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bloodem Mar 30, 2026 +2
50000000000000000% tariffs!
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Cockblocktimus_Pryme Mar 30, 2026 +1037
Trump is gonna be big mad
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Johannes_Keppler Mar 30, 2026 +556
500% tariff on Mexico incoming!
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Dyls94 Mar 30, 2026 +144
Those penguins are fucked..
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No_Method5989 Mar 30, 2026 +18
They got all that raw earth over there....
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UniqueIndividual3579 Mar 30, 2026 +19
Build a wall around Spain and make them pay for it!
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EditRemove Mar 30, 2026 +20
[Picture](https://imgur.com/7qA4Nc0)
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Fit-Cable1547 Mar 30, 2026 +10
Maybe even bigly mad!
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Xylus1985 Mar 30, 2026 +1151
So what if US planes fly through Spain air space, what’s gonna happen? Are they going to try to shoot it down?
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TeaBaggingGoose Mar 30, 2026 +1061
In the UK if we have an unidentified plane in our airspace they get a couple of fighters to shadow them.
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ours Mar 30, 2026 +798
Most countries do that. Send fighters to identify, try to communicate, and force them to land. If they refuse, a political decision has to be made.
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Workman44 Mar 30, 2026 +166
The only political decision in this instance would be to leave them alone. Unless you have someone like China backing that decision you don't shoot down (or attempt) a US plane
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jesjimher Mar 30, 2026 +504
You could argue too that a US plane being told to go back by a pair of local fighters should also comply, as the only sane political decision.
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Fdorleans Mar 30, 2026 +151
> sane political decision. We don't expect that anymore from the US.
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insanitybit2 Mar 30, 2026 +101
That's missing their point. The question on either side is going to be "or what?". For the US side, the "or what?" is met with "we'll make a public statement", for the Spain side the "or what?" is that they've just pissed off the largest military force in the world that's currently led by a f****** moron.
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The_Autarch Mar 30, 2026 +82
the US isn't going to invade Spain over a shot-down plane that was refusing to comply with lawful orders.
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nhalliday Mar 30, 2026 +187
I think we're well past the point you can reasonably say the US wouldn't do something detrimental to the world.
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RedOctobyr Mar 30, 2026 +36
Or to itself.
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BigHairyBussy Mar 30, 2026 +12
It’s completely plausible. The US public has no control over Trump.
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OpinionConsistent336 Mar 30, 2026 +10
Just like there was no way they’d ever do *gestures broadly* either, eh? The “x would never happen” > *x happens* > “y would never happen” cycle has been running at like 10k RPM since Trump took office. There’s not a single goddamn thing he would not do.
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U_L_Uus Mar 30, 2026 +14
Worth noting that 1) that would trigger a response both from the rest of nato, who is throroughly pissed with the US, and 2) Europe. Cheetus Deetus is already having trouble with Iran, doing this would be ridiculous
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crazedizzled Mar 30, 2026 +44
> Unless you have someone like China backing that decision you don't shoot down (or attempt) a US plane Kuwait didn't get the memo
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Dipsey_Jipsey Mar 30, 2026 +45
*AWACS explosively leaves the chat*
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Zestyclose_Nature_13 Mar 30, 2026 +34
We’re not going to have a single ally on the whole planet by the time Trumps done. You might be the biggest bully on the playground, but no bully can take on his entire class. I know MAGA thinks that acting like a d*** to everyone is how you get peoples respect, but even most kindergartners know that’s not how it’s done.
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BigMax Mar 30, 2026 +50
Right, they wouldn’t actually do anything. But it would be a HUGE international black eye for the US if they started to say “we do not care about the sovereignty of foreign territory anymore.” The rest of the world doesn’t like the US right now but that would be a big leap forward in their hatred of us.
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babayetu_babayaga Mar 30, 2026 +32
>But it would be a HUGE international black eye for the US if they started to say “we do not care about the sovereignty of foreign territory anymore.” Cuba, denmark, iran, and venezuela are not sovereign territory enough?
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zombispokelsespirat Mar 30, 2026 +5
Also one step closer to the end of NATO.
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NaIgrim Mar 30, 2026 +5
I mean, it would not be surprising after the US seemed to be headed that way over Greenland, did it with Venezuela and definitely is doing that with Iran right now. It'd be confirmation of an uncomfortable truth people are trying to remain blissfully unaware of.
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Workman44 Mar 30, 2026 +11
It would be a big metaphorical black eye 100%. Unfortunately I think we're getting to times where decorum and decency aren't going to apply and instead will be power and might that will apply
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Pizza_Low Mar 30, 2026 +19
Not having access to eu air space would be a big problem. It would also close access to eu naval ports. Having to sail back to America to reload missiles on destroyers would really mess up war operations in the Middle East.
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RealLoan8391 Mar 30, 2026 +43
Those were the before times….
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Workman44 Mar 30, 2026 +44
Most countries don't want any form of conflict with the US and will just posture in hopes that it isn't tested. I think that's pretty clear
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RealLoan8391 Mar 30, 2026 +81
I think everything has changed in the last year and some countries are now seeing US in a different light and with different motivations than before. Countries are reassessing relationships with the US in ways that feel qualitatively different, not just tactical adjustments but something closer to a fundamental rethink of assumptions that have held for decades. This is truly unprecedented and many of our systems of power (NATO, the dollar, trade frameworks) have been handicapped. I wouldn’t use historical precedent to predict future outcomes here.
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Kamay1770 Mar 30, 2026 +13
Agreed, the US has big military might, but loss of soft power and closure of bases abroad, reduction in assistance from allies for fuelling, parts, repairs, intel, land leave etc. will handicap their power projection. If countries start reducing trade with the US further, and strengthening ties with other countries, the US will fall further and eventually just end up like Russia, run by oligarchs, zealous patriotism, lots of military hardware and a doctrine of aggression but with no real alliances.
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kamikazecockatoo Mar 30, 2026 +3
Your last paragraph - you're already there. What's surprising is that it took less than a year, but they did have the project already written.
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jorbleshi_kadeshi Mar 30, 2026 +3
A lot of the groundwork was laid in Trump 1 as well. Not the same scale, but the aggressive, intentional torching of goodwill was well underway.
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Tubafex Mar 30, 2026 +3
Many countries are moving away from the US and are reducing their dependency. But those countries opt for slow, strategic and silent withdrawal instead of bombastic tough-talk like America would do. In the meantime, they avoid conflict.
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EhDinnaeEvenKen Mar 30, 2026 +19
Yeah, there comes a time when the bully needs dealt with though. The only question with regards to USA right now is; who does it, and when?
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Lez0fire Mar 30, 2026 +31
The question is what will the US do? Fight the entire world? The US is in big troubles fighting Iran alone, but according to you will risk converting allies into enemies? No, Trump is dumb, but not that dumb.
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Spleen-magnet Mar 30, 2026 +94
>Trump is dumb, but not that dumb. Bruh. The man is contemplating boots on the ground in Iran. He's a certifiable moron.
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Glass-Cabinet-249 Mar 30, 2026 +33
He was considering boots on the ground in Greenland...
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tlst9999 Mar 30, 2026 +7
The moron part is continuing the war. If they're not surrendering from airplane bombings, boots on the ground or withdrawal are the natural next steps when you assassinate/kidnap their president and the enemy doesn't stop. Venezuela surrendering so easily led him to believe that war is easy. Victory before Friday. This is LOGH all over again.
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SeaBackground5779 Mar 30, 2026 +9
And we didn’t actually change the regime there either, just left the remnants in charge while forcibly stealing their natural resources.
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Beeb294 Mar 30, 2026 +16
>No, Trump is dumb, but not that dumb. I envy your optimism.
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Iridismis Mar 30, 2026 +44
>Trump is dumb, but not that dumb I wouldn't rule that out (which doesn't mean I disagree with Spain, btw)
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SparksMKII Mar 30, 2026 +40
Yes he is that dumb, he threatened to annex an ally's country before not too long ago.
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KrocCamen Mar 30, 2026 +24
A country they already had completely free military access to as well!
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Slight_Present7796 Mar 30, 2026 +11
It's not about being smart or not, Trump is impulsive and senile. There is no way to predict what he will do, you just have to assume he will react in the worst possible way.
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deosiceman Mar 30, 2026 +9
Please dont give the man credit. He just doesnt care unless you are in a certain income bracket.
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FlatoutGently Mar 30, 2026 +12
Kuwait did
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meglobob Mar 30, 2026 +3
Kuwait shot down a few US planes a week or so a go and didn't Iraq? It was friendly fire but still. Makes a change, usually its the USA friendly fire on there allies. I think in the Gulf wars the highest allied casualties was US friendly fire.
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GeneralMuffins Mar 30, 2026 +8
What if they identify themselves?
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TeaBaggingGoose Mar 30, 2026 +3
Indeed - what if they did? No script has been written on this - yet. Amongst the whole rage of possibilities there is a non-zero chance they would be forced to land, the aircraft impounded and the pilots thrown in jail.
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Ferelwing Mar 30, 2026 +250
Then Spain will likely send it's own planes to "e***** it out". It also alerts everyone that the USA is no longer *trustworthy* when it concerns their *allies* wishes. This in turn signals to the rest of the world that the USA no longer follows "international law" even with "friendly" countries. The goal here is to determine whether or not the USA will follow the will of *another* country or if it will ignore it. This is a test to determine sovereignty.
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Xylus1985 Mar 30, 2026 +70
If you still need someone to tell you USA no longer follows “international law” with “friendly” countries, you will never believe it when told anyway
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Ferelwing Mar 30, 2026 +45
*It's a test* actions speak louder than words.
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randylush Mar 30, 2026 +8
To be fair, if that ally is Israel, then the US will do absolutely anything they ask.
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Nihad-G Mar 30, 2026 +7
I think Trump made it clear what he thinks of "law" with "friendly" nations by trying to annex Greenland
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marcabru Mar 30, 2026 +65
There are so many things they can do before starting to shoot down planes (which, speaking about the US is an open warfare, WW3 "end of the world as we know it" scenario) Sending home diplomats (first spies under diplomatic cover), closing down consulates, annulling EU visas for US citizens, stop accepting civilian aircraft, US ships in Spanish airports and ports, seizing civilian aircrafts/ships, etc... At the same time, protest inside NATO, refuse to take part in activities involving US armed forces, and so on, essentially end of NATO as we know it.
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Cunt_Cunt__Cunt Mar 30, 2026 +48
"hey also why does the entire world hate us and say we're arrogant?"
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Gecks777 Mar 30, 2026 +168
If the US does it repeatedly Spain could realistically invoke NATO article 4 over the violated airspace. That could cascade into an early official NATO exit for the US, other countries closing their airspace in solidarity, closure and removal of US bases on foreign soil, mass cancellation of US defense contracts or multiple of the above. Or they could just be angry enough to shoot the plane down. The energy crisis the US has bungled into is going to ruin lives and drop bodies all over Europe. Most countries are more cautious in their messaging and navigation of this mess, but make no mistake, it is hard to overstate how pissed the world at large is at the US right now.
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kananishino Mar 30, 2026 +37
Sounds something like what MAGA wants
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Thurak0 Mar 30, 2026 +74
As long as the American people don't stop MAGA, on the world stage this is what the USA want.
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Facts_pls Mar 30, 2026 +12
It's weird that Maga wants to destroy their country. But the world won't stand in the way
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AdSevere1274 Mar 30, 2026 +10
Sound like USA is not even following that Nato article and MAGA is just an excuse. They are acting as outlaws.
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Commercial-Co Mar 30, 2026 +52
They dont shoot russian planes. They wont shoot american
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Dyalikedagz Mar 30, 2026 +25
Yeah, nah. None of that is going to happen.
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IntermittentCaribu Mar 30, 2026 +6
Sanctions would be the first step, right?
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SkinnyFatSoldier Mar 30, 2026 +4
No, of course not. How many Russian planes were shot down because they went over European air space?
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kastbort2021 Mar 30, 2026 +7
Sometimes it happens, but I think only when there's already a hostile environment. I.e. neighbors to countries in conflict areas. Turkey shot down a Russian Fencer-D back in 2015, after it came inside the Turkish border for 17 seconds. The plane was likely doing something in Syria, given that Russia was active there around the time. But, of course, these planes are picked up by ground radars if they don't send out their positions. Before they get a chance to enter Spanish airspace they will be warned to change heading, in order to not enter Spanish airspace. What could be catastrophic is if they don't share their positions, don't answer to warnings, and just decide to go on. Not sure what anti-aircraft capabilities Spain have, which could read small breaches. Normal procedure is that the country sends out some jet(s) to scramble the entering aircraft, and e***** it/them out. If Spain has closed its airspace to US aircraft, it is safe to say that they won't be escorting the aircraft all through Spanish airspace.
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DunkingTea Mar 30, 2026 +37
Strong worded letter.
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sunnyspiders Mar 30, 2026 +6
Trump is famous for seeking consent before penetration I’m sure this won’t be a problem. 
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loud_v8_noises Mar 30, 2026 +19
They’re likely to issue a strongly worded declaration after convening a moratorium to review violations of European data sovereignty
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KhazraShaman Mar 30, 2026 +2
Then the US better pray they don't meet Spain in the World Cup.
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P38Man Mar 30, 2026 +344
I’d love to know the legal position for Spain if they wanted to completely eject the US military from the bases on their land. The two locations are: Naval Station Rota (Cadiz): A major naval base that also supports aircraft, housing over 6,000 personnel and five guided-missile destroyers. Morón Air Base (Seville): A major airbase, home to U.S. Air Force units and often used for rapid deployment forces. If Spain did this legally and was successful it would pave the way for other countries to do the same
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bad_horsie23 Mar 30, 2026 +323
Moron air base 🤣
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numberonebuddy Mar 30, 2026 +226
Nice that Trump got an air base named after him
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U_L_Uus Mar 30, 2026 +7
Yes, from late Hispanic Latin "Maurorum" (of the Moors), which evolved into Maurur in Andalusi Arab which turned into Morón back in Castillian
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Aedan91 Mar 30, 2026 +5
Apt
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xorgol Mar 30, 2026 +46
> it would pave the way for other countries to do the same Here in Italy, before this mess, there was very little opposition to the presence of US bases, outside of a few fringe groups and people in the immediate vicinity.
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ashgnar Mar 30, 2026 +18
I lived in Italy during the Iraq war and there were regularly protests outside of the base I went to school on. I remember school being cancelled a handful of times because they had to lock down the gates, but this was Napoli, not sure how different things were for other bases
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xorgol Mar 30, 2026 +12
There's a difference between being opposed to the invasion of Iraq and being opposed to the base being there.
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ashgnar Mar 30, 2026 +5
They were local folks opposed to it being there, just using the war as a reference to the time frame I was there. Sorry to make it confusing
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sticky-lincoln Mar 30, 2026 +4
Yeah, no. Some locals worked there, mostly cleaning. But they have a history of harassing the youngest girls in the area, especially those working the cleaning to pay for uni. So definitely not. Same in West Germany.
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Manu343726 Mar 30, 2026 +5
Rota and Morón are partially leased (i.e. owned by Spanish military) and operated in part by the US (not all the base is used by US forces). But there are other cases where while the base is 100% operated by Spanish military there may be US forces stationed there (for NATO operations I guess). Torrejón in Madrid comes to mind. My point is that this is not just about a couple of bases. Rota is often the red herring because it's a huge naval base that homes the US Mediterranean fleet (including subs and a carrier group from time to time) so it makes more noise, but there's a ton of US military personnel spread around a lot of different military complexes in the country.
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howtoloveadaisy Mar 30, 2026 +4
There would be major diplomatic fall out if Spain tried to remove US bases. Spain could try to lean on their part of the defense cooperation agreement but I bet trump would try to kick Spain out of NATO as retaliation
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angry-mustache Mar 30, 2026 +4
There is no mechanic to remove a country from NATO other than withdrawal initiated by themselves.
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Anal-buttsex Mar 30, 2026 +277
He’s in the Epstein files, so I doubt he cares about violating someone else’s space. 
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TheDarthSnarf Mar 30, 2026 +49
He prefers it when they don't consent.
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FrancisCabrou Mar 30, 2026 +27
I hope trump put tariffs on all of EU, so they finally realize you can't negociate with this moron and stop making awful deals with him 
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TonyAbbottIsACunt Mar 30, 2026 +2239
Spain leading the way as being a strong and moral country. Hopefully others follow.
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Background_Earth5244 Mar 30, 2026 +497
Spain. Not historically know for being strong or morale. Yet here we are. Before people come at me yes ik the Spanish empire but the government was never actually that strong. Just a bunch of dudes conquering for gold and god and giving the Hapsburg the credit.
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senjeny Mar 30, 2026 +112
I'd really like to know which countries do you consider to be historically known for being strong or morale.
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XGhoul Mar 30, 2026 +24
Spoilers! *None of them*
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b00st3d Mar 30, 2026 +6
Strong? A few. Morale? none of them
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SteinmanDC Mar 30, 2026 +504
I really don't understand comments like this. Isn't it easier to congratulate a country on making a decision you support, rather than give backhanders like this? What country doesn't have something embarrassing, immoral, and harmful they did at some point in history. Would you say something like this when the German government does something respectable? We all remember their role in the holocaust. Yet here we are. What exactly does that contribute? Can we not just move on with our lives and not get hung up on historically bad decisions? I like Macedonia, but let's not forget in 330 BC they did execute 7000 Tyrians, so they have some nerve to be talking about Palestinian independence today.
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PlanktonInitial7945 Mar 30, 2026 +223
The internet, especially political spaces like this one, is full of bitter and cynical people who think criticizing everything makes them smart or cool.
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ForensicPathology Mar 30, 2026 +75
It's also full of contrarians who desperately look for positive posts to say "Yeah, but have you _heard_ about that country's past?" putting in something only tangentially related.  I think these kinds of comments are an unconscious attempt to head off those replies.
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Raichu4u Mar 30, 2026 +14
Did you guys know that John Lennon abused his kids??? I am very smart
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FreshestCremeFraiche Mar 30, 2026 +2
This is even more true for like any celebrity or businessperson that does something good, like someone can do something objectively wonderful and people will be like “they weren’t vocal enough about Gaza” guys no one is perfect and you’re just discouraging good behavior by choosing that as your moment to go persecute them for some minor past offense
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Diedrogen Mar 30, 2026 +13
And can't take the least bit of criticism for anything they actually like.
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RafMarlo Mar 30, 2026 +2
I'm bitter so you'll be too ! People just love to argue and win their arguments meanwhile they show their true closed minded colors.
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donald_314 Mar 30, 2026 +46
I think, it's a good reminder to not treat politics like a team sport fandom.
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KingoftheMongoose Mar 30, 2026 +4
Like the Blues and Greens of Byzantium
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Nerevarine91 Mar 30, 2026 +2
Nika! Nika!
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WeakDoughnut8480 Mar 30, 2026 +34
Totally Also why bring up things for years ago. We are praising Spain for action happening now and OP is pulling up the receipts from the last century. What's the purpose. Discredit them. Say that that it invalidates the actions happening now? I don't get it either. 
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Nerevarine91 Mar 30, 2026 +14
Multiple centuries ago. The last Habsburg ruler of Spain died in 1700
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badass_panda Mar 30, 2026 +9
>I like Macedonia, but let's not forget in 330 BC they did execute 7000 Tyrians, so they have some nerve to be talking about Palestinian independence today. Can't help myself. The modern country of (North) Macedonia isn't culturally, ethnically or linguistically particularly related to the Hellinistic kingdom of Macedonia. Fairer to pin that massacre of the Tyrians on modern day Greece.
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Shockkdiamondss Mar 30, 2026 +98
Best time to be moral country was yesterday. Second best is today.
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Ivaryzz Mar 30, 2026 +19
Which countries were morally strong in your opinion?
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slugmorgue Mar 30, 2026 +49
Pivotal in the war against Napoleon too
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overthinkingmessiah Mar 30, 2026 +37
Is there such a thing as a moral country? And do restrain yourself from commenting on things you clearly have no knowledge of.
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[deleted] Mar 30, 2026 +13
wipe political fearless plant reach memorize cobweb attraction familiar plough
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joancarles69 Mar 30, 2026 +3
We have many, it's a family name, derived from "'arbol de las moras" = mulberry tree.
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marr Mar 30, 2026 +2
> Not historically know for being moral Name a country that is.
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Constant_Section1491 Mar 30, 2026 +9
Well, history lessons can wait. What matters right now is how they're reacting to the war situation by not giving an opportunity to escalate this further.
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jay6432 Mar 30, 2026 +78
In this one particular instance, perhaps. But they have no strength / morality when it comes to NATO defense spending requirements. ETA - go ahead and downvote, idc. They can’t even meet the 2% minimum, let alone the 5% that many other European countries are aiming for. I’m not sorry that as a European I expect Spain to make some effort & pull their weight.
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wirelessflyingcord Mar 30, 2026 +23
> ETA - go ahead and downvote, idc. They can’t even meet the 2% minimum, let alone the 5% that many other European countries are aiming for. I’m not sorry that as a European I expect Spain to make some effort & pull their weight. In addition, Spain kept saying no to the 5% agreement until it was agreed that they and only they specifically don't have to meet it.
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Primrose_Polaris Mar 30, 2026 +13
All of NATO's 32 members met the 2 percent of GDP expenditure target in 2025.. [source](https://www.politico.eu/article/nato-countries-hit-2025-spending-target/)
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Tomboolla Mar 30, 2026 +113
They also dont care about being strong and moral when it comes to ukraine. Almost no support. They are doing their part in Europe staying dependant on the US while scoring these c**** and easy political points.
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jesjimher Mar 30, 2026 +65
A billion euros a year since 2024, 29 Leopard tanks, more than a hundred armored vehicles, anti-air systems, artillery batteries, ammunition, and more than 7.000 ukrainian soldiers trained in Spain in tactics and whatever. They have also given refuge to 240.000 ukrainian refugees, with full access to education and healthcare. Sure, how greedy and unhelpful of them.
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ashcr0w Mar 30, 2026 +39
Did you miss how NATO complimented Spain last week for reaching their goals?
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jesjimher Mar 30, 2026 +29
So Spain didn't meet the totally irrational and arbitrary 5% that Trump decided was the right amount, based on several studies and statistics that he had basically pulled from his ass? It's like all countries sheepishly follow whatever Trump dictates, but Spain actually argues and does something about it. What a bad thing to do...
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usesidedoor Mar 30, 2026 +26
The 2% was met last year. Get your facts right. 5% without substantial reform so that our euros keep flowing to the US is insanity.
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AdSevere1274 Mar 30, 2026 +20
USA is spending 3.3% of their GDP. Spending more than USA is without merit. 2% is more than enough.
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LaughinChaos Mar 30, 2026 +25
>moral country I guess defying the US once or twice every now and then excuses all your wrongdoing as a wanna be fascist leader for your country
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alfaafla Mar 30, 2026 +6
Nothing says more moral than supporting a theocracy that dips most of its toes in the Old testament, who want to kill all infidels, treat women as property, and who presently publicly hang dissenters.
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TexasBrett Mar 30, 2026 +45
How does Spain know which planes are involved in the war? There’s a US C-130 flying over Spain right now from NAS Sigonella.
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The_Autarch Mar 30, 2026 +45
Spain can track where the planes go after the fact. So if the US doesn't comply, they can just ban *all* US military aircraft from their airspace.
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cleanuponaisle4 Mar 30, 2026 +78
NATO falling apart. Gee I wonder who this helps. Ask a MAGA and they’ll probably say nobody could have seen this coming despite being warned about Trump being Putin’s b**** for the last 10 years.
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DarkNinjaPenguin Mar 30, 2026 +50
NATO is 32 countries. 31 of them aren't falling apart.
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Sudden-Fisherman5985 Mar 30, 2026 +11
> . 31 of them aren't falling apart Getting tighter buds actually
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krimmxr Mar 30, 2026 +12
Not European war
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Photo-70 Mar 30, 2026 +10
This is merely window dressing from Spain, to gain opinion from their population. In reality, all US planes that take off in the UK and are loaded with bombs or missiles, never fly over mainland Europe, they go south to the Strait of Gibraltar, and over the Mediterranean Sea. Most planes fire their Tomahawks off the coast of Lebanon and never pass over land. The bombing raids are flown over Lebanon , Jordan, Saudi Arabia, or from the aircraft carriers in the neighbourhood of Iran.
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zombiskunk Mar 30, 2026 +4
Not an uncommon thing for countries to do.
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NoBSforGma Mar 30, 2026 +79
If I look at a map of US bases in Europe, it doesn't make a lot of sense to fly over Spain. Now, I'm trying to figure out why a US plane would fly over Spain en route to bomb Iran. Maybe this is just nothing, really? Just a "statement of displeasure?" Are US bombers really flying over Spain?
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SquidFistHK Mar 30, 2026 +124
From the article: > Spain's refusal to cooperate has "complicated" US military operations by forcing bombers to change their routes and logistics on their way to the Middle East, El Pais reported.
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Senior-Procedure-748 Mar 30, 2026 +12
It's a gesture from Spain. Iran let's their ships through, Spain puts up a stand against the American aggression.
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-LongRodVanHugenDong Mar 30, 2026 +9
Spain doesn't use the hormuz strait...
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xixoxixa Mar 30, 2026 +2
Morón Air Base is in Spain and is a useful stopping point en route.
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ES_Legman Mar 30, 2026 +2
Moron and Rota are used as base for tankers and logistics
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ashgnar Mar 30, 2026 +2
Lots of planes coming from UK airbases refuel/pass over down here
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psb-introspective Mar 30, 2026 +39
"Spain's leftist government has closed Spanish airspace to US planes" Nice impartial news source.
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Sokarou Mar 30, 2026 +18
Is not wrong, PSOE (main gov party) is a left party while sumar is radical left party
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LuckyLuuk Mar 30, 2026 +16
But why is the political direction of Spain mentioned and not of the US? “Far-right/fascist US planes” for example
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drkTwrCnt Mar 30, 2026 +188
that's how you deal with the orange pedophile! good work spain!
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Workman44 Mar 30, 2026 +23
Realistically it's bark with no bite. Spain won't enforce this in reality because it would be suicide
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drkTwrCnt Mar 30, 2026 +34
>Spain won't enforce this in reality because it would be suicide Why that? They still can guide military US airplanes out of their airspace if they violate their rule. Those pricks in 'murica won't start WW3 because Spain is enforcing a closed airspace on them.
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joshrealer Mar 30, 2026 +10
The US would have to deal with the whole EU for that. It would only make things more embarrassing for the US.
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AleXstheDark Mar 30, 2026 +21
The rest of Europe should do the same ngl. USA is f****** up the whole world economy and they are stupid enough to make this another 4ever war they will lose anyway. Except this time they will drag everyone down with them.
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Rex_Mundi Mar 30, 2026 +8
The planes in Spain can't cause any pains.
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AnyBug1039 Mar 30, 2026 +2
The planes in spain will mainly not be heading for I-rain. Sorry
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HQnorth Mar 30, 2026 +14
Dear USA - Learn some history. From 1939 to 1975 Spain was ruled by a corrupt, murderous dictator. "The know one when they see one..."
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BThasTBinFiji Mar 30, 2026 +4
America knows one when they see one too. They installed one in Iran in 1953 and he was ousted by the Iranian people in 1979.
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YoureProbablyAB0t Mar 30, 2026 +6
Good. Participating in the Trump/Epstein Files war should be something every country avoids.
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Constant-Plant-9378 Mar 30, 2026 +7
Every NATO country should close their airspace to US planes involved in the Iran war.
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SparksMKII Mar 30, 2026 +3
Rutte is the grimiest sleazeball I've ever seen in Dutch politics and with him as the secretary of NATO now that will sadly never happen.
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xPhilip Mar 30, 2026 +8
The UK should follow suit.
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BellesCotes Mar 30, 2026 +2
Trump's gonna rename the Straights of Gibraltar the Straights of America now....
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JohnBPrettyGood Mar 30, 2026 +6
Trump stole Venezuela's Oil Not he is out to steal Iran's Oil and Uranium Trump has not really figured out the Nobel Peace Prize Criteria But R*** and Pillage?? Yea he's got that figured out
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sil3ntwarrior Mar 30, 2026 +34
Good, more need to follow.
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ATheeStallion Mar 30, 2026 +4
1,000% Tariffs on Olive Oil, Paella and everything else Americans love to import from Spain incoming from Mango. Because his idiotic MAGA followers still think it’s a tax on Spain not Americans.
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SparksMKII Mar 30, 2026 +4
Whew, thankfully it's very easy to surpass goals when you have set none
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No-Experience-3171 Mar 30, 2026 +26
That's nice, but US planes weren't flying over their airspace anyway. This doesn't actually change anything.
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DisasterNo1740 Mar 30, 2026 +95
The U.S has historically extensively used Spanish bases and infrastructure for their operations in the middle east. Spain taking a stand here and outright refusing the U.S in the event they want to do it for this war is not meant to "change" anything, it signifies how far gone Trumps misadventures have gone.
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sca34 Mar 30, 2026 +102
The US has a military air base in Spain, they restricted it's operation. It's quite a big move actually.
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