Can't adults fake themselves to be a kid's age group and cause mayhem too?
This just makes it easier for them to find them.
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Ralphie52315 days ago
+102
Yes this just let's Predators target specific age groups now.
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GreenFox15055 days ago
+64
I would challenge someone to design a system worse than telling the world which accounts are child accounts.
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vb25095 days ago
+9
Be careful what you asked for buddy. For all of our sakes 🥲
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skankenstein5 days ago
+22
Yes and some kids were accidentally age verified as adults. So they can only talk to adults! I’m very upset about the lack of parental notice or consent. Luckily my child knew to come to me and ask before verifying. It was a no- we don’t post him online and he knows not to divulge personal info.
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UltimaCaitSith5 days ago
+6
It's a serious thing, but it's still funny that they moved a kid into adults-only conversations because they said "taxes" or something.
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theycallhimthestug4 days ago
+2
Taxes? What? You submit your ID, or a picture and it guesses your age.
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jramos0374 days ago
+3
I wonder if 2 adults faking to be kids ever target each other.
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vb25094 days ago
+2
Probably to catch predators? There we someone doing that who got banned for it.
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Pizlenut5 days ago
yes. Are you truly surprised liars are not interested in protecting children even though they say that is what it is for?
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vb25095 days ago
Nope. Been openly calling out the BS even on LinkedIn. A lot of parents who never grew the maturity to have children in the first place or just lazy parents choosing to outsource the job to the government and hence the rest of the population.
Not to forget they refuse to take action against so many predators because they are high profile and all which shows how poor faith this whope argument is based on.
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SomewhereNo83785 days ago
+146
I don’t envy roblox’s nearly impossible task of making the game safe, but the fact that it is so hard to make safe should make every parent reconsider letting their kids spend time on here.
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Solkre5 days ago
+126
You have to cut off communication like Nintendo does. Require friend codes and such. Not perfect but better.
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InformalWish5 days ago
+44
I love the way Facebook Messenger kids works. Again, not perfect, but better. To be able to chat, they need a 4-word code. Then, both parents have to approve before the kids can chat. Of course, parents need a Facebook account, so that sucks lol but it cuts down on random people being able to contact them.
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DoogleSmile5 days ago
+7
I never knew Facebook messenger had a kids option. Is this for under 13s? I'm sure 13 was the minimum age to use Facebook before.
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InformalWish5 days ago
Yes. It's Messenger Kids by Meta in the Google Play store, should be the same in Apple store, and you don't need a Facebook account for the kid to set it up, just a parent needs an account.
https://www.messengerkids.com/
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Gamebird85 days ago
+6
The problem is that a lot of the abuse on Roblox is carried out on third party platforms like Snapchat and Discord.
**Roblox is of course to blame on account that they got rid of their forum forcing a lot of kids off their own controllable platform**
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Solkre5 days ago
+5
Well the "nobody can talk to anyone else" system of Nintendo makes it very hard to setup external chats too. Nobody should be responsible for stuff of their own systems.
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vb25095 days ago
+13
Not to forget the makers themselves are protecting predators.
Game has its own fair share of issues as is with all the brainrot and I'm definitely not sending my kids on there when I do have them.
Makes me wonder what the parents are so busy doing to not know what their kids are upto.
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bdrumev5 days ago
+19
Those greedy fucks are doing next to literal nothing and you call it an impossible task?!? Not to mention the actual community yelling the solutions to them and they stonewall it all to pump stock.
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Chiper1365 days ago
+27
It's hard to implement safety features when you're so busy trying to exploit children.
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TheRealSaerileth5 days ago
+2
Excuse me? Roblox shut down their forums because they couldn't be arsed to moderate them, knowing full well that the kids would just move to 3rd places like Discord where they are even more at risk.
I don't think it's an easy task, either, but Roblox has been doing *less than nothing* to make it safer. In fact they've actively been making it worse, since the same mechanism that leaves children vulnerable to abuse also makes it easier for them to spend their parents' money. They *want* unsupervised children, that's their entire business model.
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Squire_II5 days ago
+1
It doesn't help that Roblox's leadership largely didn't (and honestly still doesn't) care about doing proper Trust & Safety work on their platform since it's hard and expensive to do right.
Roblox leadership is very "we've tried nothing and we're all out of ideas."
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TheGringoDingo4 days ago
+1
If they really cared, they’d shut down the private chat features entirely, moderate the games themselves for content better, and put a heavy-handed filter on in-game chat.
The kids are already on it, make the parents comfortable allowing their kids on a kids game with less supervision
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PlayerAssumption773 days ago
+1
Solving it is impossible, but making it slightly better would be as simple as rolling back the features they CHOSE to add in the last few years like a less restrictive chat filter and voice chat.
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spid3roll5 days ago
+50
My kids play roblox and I just disabled chat. Its not that hard to keep an eye on what your kids do online. If they want to talk with their friends when playing, their friends can come over to the house or they can call my phone on their parents phone. Some of the games are fun and sometimes we have family game nights and everyone in the house plays on their own devices in the same room together. People need to keep an eye on their kids but not keep them from having fun
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vb25095 days ago
+8
Yep!
Not to forget parental controls have existed for decades now and work just fine.
Someone even made a decent proposal to have kids safe without this c*** by mandating enabling parental controls on all wifi routers off the shelf where the users can choose to turn it off.
As a gamer myself, yeah there is a better middle ground than a ban. Which is where I found the whole social media ban stupid. Like instagram has had parental control support for a decent amount of time now. Better to teach them how to be responsible and safe than banning it completely.
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Shadowkiller005 days ago
+6
I fully blocked roblox when I found out Microsoft let's kids accounts install it without administrative permission. Full installation, not just running an executable. Microsoft literally encourages kids to play it without their parents knowing.
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odenihy5 days ago
+9
I still don’t understand why Roblox removed the feature where you could only interact with friends. With that, my kids could have chat (thy are only allowed to friend people they know in real life and I check). Once Roblox removed that, chat went off. I’m not going to trust the platform itself to police chat interactions, that would be f****** stupid.
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Crrrystal5 days ago
+87
Not taking the side of Roblox here, but can't those concerned parents just... parent their children and not allow online games like Roblox?
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cannot_walk_barefoot5 days ago
+46
So many clueless parents not only let their young kids play these games, but they also let them chat online.... like why? Have some common sense. My wifes cousins kid is 6 and had apparently been playing fortnight online for a year or so and also was talking to other players... So this 6 year old is hearing the fucked up shit other older kids are saying. And that kid.... had issues. Like the things he talked about were dark for a kid his age.
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Drix225 days ago
+41
Couple of years ago my SIL approached me to ask about computers because her son wanted to play fortnite and roblox online, he was 7, pretty heavily sheltered and working on an anxiety disorder thanks to his mom.
I told her straight up he wasn't ready for that and it was a bad idea.
She went ahead with it anyway. Last time I saw her she was complaining about the way people talk online and it's not ok for children. She couldn't comprehend she brought her kid into a bar and told the room not to drink- he flat out shouldn't have been there.
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ghotier5 days ago
+13
I'm not going to judge other people's parenting skills and limitations, but it's not ACTUALLY that hard to monitor, either.
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scytob5 days ago
+15
here is the thing, is the 'concerned parents' should be judged, not for the parenting skills but their adulting skills, they have all the resources they need to not be concerned about their child i.e. stop them using the problematic content
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ghotier5 days ago
+22
This is going to sound like I'm talking out of both sides of my mouth, but I don't think that's the debate. Policy discussions should never be about protecting your personal family. It should include recognition that parents aren't perfect, but children deserve to be protected anyway. You don't make policy for amazing parents and you don't make policy with lucky children in mind.
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scytob5 days ago
+8
fair take, thanks for the reasoned reply
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Telandria5 days ago
+8
Yeah I don’t get the sheer level of parents who don’t police what their kids are doing online. Like.. I was literally playing Super Battle Golf public matches last night to try and grind out some achievements, and *holy shit* like half the lobbies were toxic cesspools of constant vulgarity and nsfw usernames that no kid prior to high school has any business being involved in. Like, literally one of them was full-on MAGA nutjobs spouting conspiracy theories and making racist slur ‘jokes’ like every 10 seconds.
I left that one pretty damn fast, and it didn’t take me long to just turn off voice chat altogether.
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cannot_walk_barefoot5 days ago
+2
Halo 2 online like 20 years ago was enough for me to know online gaming isn't for me. And I'm assuming everyone is worse now, so yeah my kids aren't getting introduced to that world. They're already spouting 6-7 because of the older kids in school they hear, but at least that is harmless.
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IKillZombies4Cash5 days ago
+5
They could
I did.
I feel like the odds of something bad happening on Roblox is lower than at school / daycare / church groups, but it’s just easier to blame a corporation than local community groups and lazy parents .
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elconquistador19855 days ago
+4
While we're at it, there needs to be a lot more parental concern about church groups.
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Shadowkiller005 days ago
+2
I had to go out of my way to explicitly block it because Microsoft explicitly allows kids to fully install it without admin privileges. Microsoft also doesn't let you block it until they have used it.
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Crrrystal5 days ago
+1
You can’t disable installing things through parental controls on a child account in windows?
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Shadowkiller004 days ago
+3
It is normally disabled by default, but this is an exception that Microsoft created.
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FifteenthPen5 days ago
+1
Easier said than done. The more you protect your kids from the internet, the more they're going to get pressured and bullied by their peers.
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JinkoTheMan5 days ago
+30
There’s a good middle ground that most parents struggle with. You shouldn’t be giving your 8 year old unlimited access to the internet but you also shouldn’t be watching your 16 year old like a hawk.
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Blossomie5 days ago
+9
And the more free reign kids have on the internet the more they’re going to be bullied by their peers, and many times it’s to death.
Problem is that it won’t just be fellow kids preying upon them, it’ll also be adults with far worse intentions.
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MethodMZA5 days ago
+1
We let our kids play roblox. I play with them sometimes too. We just dont let them add strangers as friends or DM anyone. They can use microsft teams to chat with friends and family while they play or use the public chat.
Predators have always and will always exist. Parents need to pay attention to what their kids are doing. God i can remember when internet was first starting and every AOL chat or IIRC started with announcing your A/S/L. Lol. And my parents were completely clueless to what this stuff even was. No supervision at all. Speaking of supervising kids, i was taking my daughter to a friends house and had to wait while like a 4 year and 6 year old finished playing in the road. No parents in site. Im digressing now but the point is some parents just suck and good luck to those kids raised by them.
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FillFrontFloor5 days ago
Also, ironically it's been proven that there is a bigger chance of parents and siblings or step siblings to sexually assault you or put you in a bigger position to be assaulted than the internet. Not just kids but adults too, I see the same thing it's super dangerous to use dating apps but the perpetrators are always someone you know. Not saying Internet it's super safe, just saying we need actual effective strategy that actually works.
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thatleftnut5 days ago
+5
Education. I grew up playing RuneScape interacting with strangers but early 2000s it was drilled into me to never give out personal information and just block people if they were weird. It was really cool getting to talk to people from all over the world and learning about how different it is in Lithuania or Australia, while I live in the United States. I think since chat rooms died the push to be safe online died with it, along with any semblance of teaching those after us the same lessons.
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deadra_axilea4 days ago
+10
At this point, how is Roblox even allowed to still exist?
I don't think there has been a more awful tool for pedophiles to take advantage of children other than Facebook.
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Steve29115 days ago
+78
Do. Not. Download. This. Game.
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SomewhereEffective405 days ago
+68
Yes, but it’s not a game - it’s a platform that hosts a walled garden of games.
It’s important for parents to know this and understand there’s a lot of corners to be in.
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Discount_Extra5 days ago
+13
> walled garden
jungle with murder hornets
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Shadowkiller005 days ago
+4
Microsoft has explicitly gone out of their way to allow kids to download and install the game on child accounts without parental permission. It's one of the very few software that does this. No admin access required, full installation including running things in the background even when logged in on parent accounts.
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JinkoTheMan5 days ago
+16
I’m not defending Roblox but I think we need to acknowledge that there’s only so much they can do. At some point parents need to take responsibility. My aunt lets her 13 year old daughter stay up to 2 AM sometimes playing Fortnite or Roblox and talking to her other “cousins” or “school friends”.
I’m 21 and my parents didn’t let me stay up on the game past 8pm until I was 17. I sure as hell wasn’t talking to random ass strangers either.
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PlayerAssumption773 days ago
+4
There's only so much they can do, but they did do some of it at one point. They ADDED unsafe features and REMOVED perfectly fine safety features. They also replaced a ton of human moderation.
They also choose not to be in this situation. They are a platform with almost half of the user base under 14, they allow account creation with ages 8 and up & they sell official toys.
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AssistivePeacock4 days ago
+2
yeah, no thanks my kids will not be going on Roblox ever.
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lookitsafish4 days ago
+6
Just don't let your kids play that game? It can be dangerous obviously, and boycotting is hitting them in the wallet.
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AvailableInvite76792 days ago
+3
As a Roblox user myself, this update is really making the player base go into shambles. Also if you think about this system for a second, you would probably realize that it makes it a lot easier to for predators to be with children. I mean kids have already been verified as adults by putting fake beards with markers on their face. Its also VERY VERY easy for parents to just disable to chat, I think if Roblox just made their parental controls more clear it would've prevented all this.
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Toddcraft5 days ago
+4
Who the f*** is still letting their kids play this shit?
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DarkBomberX5 days ago
+5
Yeah. Im not gonna trust the game that has rampant pedos running free. How the f*** does fortnite have better protections than roblox? (Don't answer that. I know roblox create a maps allow for way too much content but if theyre gonna market to children they need to do way better.)
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thatleftnut5 days ago
+7
Fortnite doesn’t have a robust text chat system. Fortnite communication is mostly voice chat, and typically you’re playing with friends not strangers. Even then if you’re doing squads or duos, you’re only coming across a handful of people a day compared to Roblox maps that can have hundreds or thousands of users in a given map.
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Several-Economics-355 days ago
+4
Roblox is blocked at the DNS in my household. en oh
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BlunderFunk5 days ago
+3
If I was a parent I would ban roblox in the house and no questions asked
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KryptCeeper5 days ago
+3
My kid will never interact with roblox. Period
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furrysalesman695 days ago
+1
More safety is better, right? Why not say it’s not enough?
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PlayerAssumption773 days ago
+2
It's not recognized enough that Roblox CHOSE to make their platform less safe to be "up-to-date". Their human moderators are barely active now, they added voice chat, and they moved away from the whitelist chat filter.
Or, idea, don't advertise an online platform with social interaction with strangers to people 8 and up.
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kinisonkhan5 days ago
+1
My 13 yo kid stopped playing since they banned chat until you provided facial recognition.
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Zipps05 days ago
+2
It’s really simple to me. My children won’t be playing Roblox.
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steathrazor5 days ago
+1
Anyone still letting their kids anywhere near Roblox are morons
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