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Questions & Help Mar 12, 2026 at 10:48 PM

ROTC students at Old Dominion subdued and killed the shooter who killed 1 person, wounded 2

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https://apnews.com/article/old-dominion-university-virginia-gunman-dead-e49b6d42f2b76d2ad92a2ee72833e9ad

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ElegantLandscape Mar 12, 2026 +8306
Local here, the word is he was stabbed to death by the students. It was very scary for a bit and everyone I know had some person on the line on campus. The police reacted very quickly and the area is very shaken up by this.
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Less-Damage-1202 Mar 13, 2026 +487
Wow that's crazy. You rarely ever see an attack stopped by the perp being stabbed.. Brave kids 💪
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furygoat Mar 13, 2026 +193
Never bring a gun to a knife fight
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mokutou Mar 12, 2026 +5105
Jesus, I hope those students get some quality therapy because even if it was warranted, that has to mess with your head to stab someone to death.
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frosty95 Mar 13, 2026 +2393
Guns are cold and basically instant. There is no feeling. Just a loud noise and something has holes in it. A knife involves you feeling the knife cut. You are close to whatever you are cutting. If you hear that someone stabbed someone at some point in their life they are way scarier than someone who shot someone.
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Nolsoth Mar 13, 2026 +1306
I've never stabbed anyone or shot anyone, but I spent my youth hunting and taking other animals lives. My 2 cents pulling the trigger and ending a life is not an easy thing to do regardless the f it being human or another animal. I also genuinely believe I would struggle to shoot another person. I could not fathom having to do that to another person with a knife, and I've slit pigs and deer throats before for culling/mercy killing. It's just a horrific thing to think about, I genuinely feel for the kids that had to do this
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noeagle77 Mar 13, 2026 +651
I have a few friends that have each done multiple tours of duty. We are all close enough friends that I’ve heard some of their really rough stories of things they had to do during war and the ones that stick out most is the story that involved stabbing. They all have some form of ptsd but that specific friend seems much more damaged from that day than any other the way he talked about it.
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Nolsoth Mar 13, 2026 +378
Look after that friend, they've done something horrific that most of us thankfully never have to deal with. And if they are a good person. Like your friend sounds to be that will haunt them untill they die
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noeagle77 Mar 13, 2026 +480
He honestly is one of the best dudes I know. He is one of the friends that’s not forgotten me after I got diagnosed with leukemia. He still visits me and checks in on me all the time even though he lives on the other side of the US from me now. Anytime he comes home to visit family he stops by and sees me sometimes before he even sees his own parents haha! I will ALWAYS look out for him, as he has for me. ETA: Thank you all for the kind words and all the support! Woke up to so much positivity this totally made my day!
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ThighsocksTK Mar 13, 2026 +184
Just wanted to say that sounds like an absolutely beautiful friendship <3
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D0ntEatPaper Mar 13, 2026 +59
Agreed! I hope when I'm your age I have a friend like that. If would show I'm doing something right 😭
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_qubed_ Mar 13, 2026 +59
I've known enough vets not to be surprised by this. Thankful, inspired, appreciative, but not surprised. Our soldiers are so often the best of us. I hate that so many have suffered and continue to suffer. I hate it.
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Background_Edge_9427 Mar 13, 2026 +39
Good luck with your leukemia fight! I hope you kick it's ass! 🙏🙏
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Berthabutz Mar 13, 2026 +26
Wishing you the best outcome re your leukemia.
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TheSignificantDong Mar 13, 2026 +15
I won’t forget you either. From the opposite side of the world (maybe). *Godspeed*
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PhoenixDogsWifey Mar 13, 2026 +127
This reminds me of Peter Jackson describing when Christopher Lee criticized/corrected a death scene stage direction and Peter says (paraphrasing) "he was a world War veteran and in that moment I learned he'd seen and done things no man should" Eta youtube link with the original interview footage from both Peter Jackson and Sir Christopher Lee https://youtu.be/qwOGyv7U3E0?si=ZZKFI032_TjqAnzF
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BigHatRince Mar 13, 2026 +67
I've seen that, he was correcting the sound someone makes when stabbed in the back bc he'd lived it. Horrifying stuff but really did help the movie
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PhoenixDogsWifey Mar 13, 2026 +28
Yep sure did https://youtu.be/qwOGyv7U3E0?si=ZZKFI032_TjqAnzF
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BigHatRince Mar 13, 2026 +11
Thats exactly the clip I saw
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RandomGhost17 Mar 13, 2026 +90
Don't quote me but I believe Christopher Lee was in/part of the SAS (British Special Forces) in WW2 so yeah he probably witnessed and participated in events and military actions that most people couldn't even imagine.
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areeighty Mar 13, 2026 +75
Yes, he was in the SOE (Special Operations Executive) which preceded the SAS. Although I understand the details of his service are still secret.
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DaltsTB Mar 13, 2026 +45
His cousin wrote James Bond and supposedly Christopher Lee was the inspiration.
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Paladin7373 Mar 13, 2026 +20
I didn’t know James Bond was inspired by something :O
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PhoenixDogsWifey Mar 13, 2026 +47
Yeah I couldn't remember if it was RAF, SAS, or both.. but it apparently put quite the chill in the air in set quite early and Lee kept himself separated mostly from the main cast basically until all the movies were done and even was a little frigid on the promo tours to let the rumors swirl around him and keep the cast kind of flinchy and uncertain which really did add authenticity to the plot Eta apparently he did start RAF and made flight lieutenant and then there's nae another word of his career
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oceanmachine420 Mar 13, 2026 +23
That's really interesting, thanks for the TIL. He certainly was a pretty f****** terrifying presence as Saruman.
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PhoenixDogsWifey Mar 13, 2026 +21
He played double 0 agent _the terrifyingly real game_ On YouTube is 1959's hound of the baskervilles is you haven't seen it i would say its one of the most fascinating movie/actor studies ever
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Bridgeofsighs83 Mar 13, 2026 +30
Saruman is child’s play compared to his portrayal of Dracula in the old hammer productions. He and Peter Cushing are the best. There will never be another production company as good as Hammer was. It actually had an aura around it and they had horror with class.
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Filthy_Tlielaxu Mar 13, 2026 +19
He was attached to the SOE and another precursor I can’t recall the name of that would become post WWII SAS. Apparently a real handful to the axis forces though.
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jsay74 Mar 13, 2026 +17
The air leaving a man's lungs when you stab them is accurate.
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Unusual_Pinetree Mar 13, 2026 +19
My buddy in college was a vet on gi bill, he was such a solid dude, and talk killing with close friends. He said he killed many but for most part it was at a extended distance. He said it never felt super real until he ran into enemy combatant at close range. He said they were both not expecting other, he said he didn’t hesitate and that’s what saved his life. He said it was instinct and he did it before he could think about it, but he also said he would never forget the look of surprise on the guys face as he shot him. It was crazy he was not light or disrespectful, but he always had a smile even when talking about heavy shit. Some people are built different.
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ghettoresearch2 Mar 13, 2026 +139
As someone who has used knives in a violent manner in the past...there is a reason they say stabbing is so personal. I mean you feel all of it. The pressure, then lack of pressure. I won't go in detail but the feel of slicing and/or stabbing someone...it stays with you.
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Surfingontherun Mar 13, 2026 +103
Been stabbed, in the neck. It also stays with you.
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CrashTestWolf Mar 13, 2026 +47
I work in the OR and we've already had several neck stabbings this year. Glad you made it, goes without saying that injury has a high rate of mortality.
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Small-Palpitation310 Mar 13, 2026 +26
Some of us old timers remember r/ watchpeopledie
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ATLfalcons27 Mar 13, 2026 +14
Yeah not saying killing anyone is a good time but stabbing is very personal compared to shooting I imagine
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brittanythegirl Mar 13, 2026 +68
I appreciate this information because the word subdue isn't right when they're telling us "he was killed." I think any word is fair in this situation considering what he was doing. Just say some people at the location he attacked managed to kill him
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BataleonRider Mar 13, 2026 +54
The actual quote from the article is “rendered him no longer alive,” which...I dunno, that just reads brutal to me. If some of the other comments in this thread are true,  he died hard.  F*** him if he did though. F****** piece of shit...
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brittanythegirl Mar 13, 2026 +37
Yeah, I had a moment to consider why all the wording, and I realize now it is for the people who went through the situation of confronting him. We don't want to use certain words to implicate them or put them through further trauma, so I think I would prefer it that way too if I had to fight for survival in that manner. I'm in agreement with you
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deHack Mar 13, 2026 +166
I was going to guess choked to death. My theory being someone subdued him with a chokehold and didn’t dare let go until he quit struggling.
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OrwellWhatever Mar 13, 2026 +69
I mean... people stop struggling wayyyyyyyy before they die. You pass out after a few seconds, and then it takes minutes to starve the brain of enough oxygen for long enough that they die. It's part of what made that subway incident where the dude choke held the guy to death. You gotta work for it
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TravelingJorts Mar 13, 2026 +62
It’s also the reason why some people will get charged with first degree murder when they asphyxiate someone. You have time to stop and change your mind, but you have to commit. Absolutely terrifying to think about.
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Healthy_Fly5653 Mar 13, 2026 +20
You can also crush a guys windpipe. It’s a lot easier than you would think.
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ranchspidey Mar 12, 2026 +194
F***, those poor students. It can’t have been easy to stab someone to death, even if it was the only way to save innocent lives. I hope they all get the support they need after this.
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wise_comment Mar 13, 2026 +21
> The students subdued him and “rendered him no longer alive,” Evans [FBI Special Agent in charge] said. “I don’t know how else to say it.” She confirmed Jalloh wasn’t shot but didn’t provide further details. Seems to support this
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KendrickBlack502 Mar 13, 2026 +95
Brutality aside, that students very well may have saved several lives by putting the shooter down
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LopsidedShower6466 Mar 13, 2026 +70
̷w̷e̷l̷l̷ ̷m̷a̷y̷ ̷h̷a̷v̷e̷ ̷s̷a̷v̷e̷d̷ 100% saved. Their own lives included.
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SixGunZen Mar 13, 2026 +15
So, somebody brought a knife to a gunfight.... and ***won***.
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oochymane Mar 13, 2026 +28
Holy shit that is some trauma I can not imagine
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MessageOk239 Mar 13, 2026 +810
I teach at Old Dominion University, and was in the parking garage about to go to class when the shots were fired. Everyone on campus undergoes “active shooter” training and learns the “run-hide-fight” protocol. The guy walked around Constant Hall looking for the ROTC class and asking people where it was. When the room was confirmed and he got to it, it was too late for the instructor and students to “run” or “hide”, so all they could do was fight - and fight, they did. The first alert was sent out at 10:48am, and the “all clear” came at 12:05pm.
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OkAlternative7741 Mar 13, 2026 +255
Nice to have an actual "eyewitness" account of the events that occurred.
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TheToxicBreezeYF Mar 12, 2026 +2188
“rendered him no longer alive”
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EntrepreneurPlus7091 Mar 13, 2026 +1514
Social media impact on language needs to be studied. No cap
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Obvious-Ad-4560 Mar 13, 2026 +396
Full send on god. 🙏
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1milkshake2straws Mar 13, 2026 +163
Fr fr
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MrDoctors Mar 13, 2026 +94
No notes.
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Djangosmangos Mar 13, 2026 +75
Bing bong
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huhwutwot Mar 13, 2026 +16
Skibidi sadness rnrn
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BurmeciaWillSurvive Mar 13, 2026 +122
Even in emergency medicine it's typically worded as "sustained injuries incompatible with life" for example a decapitation in a motor vehicle collision. I haven't been studying for NREMT since probably 2007 but they used it back then too. I don't think this is a social media thing!
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Horror_Lawfulness738 Mar 13, 2026 +74
It’s probably just a rather mellow way of saying they bludgeoned him into mush. It was probably a very violent death.
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Accurate_Reporter_31 Mar 13, 2026 +40
Beaten & stabbed to death with pocket knives.
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HerbScientist420 Mar 13, 2026 +14
Fuggin killed em
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papayakob Mar 13, 2026 +37
Should have gone with the classic "sidewalk temperature challenge"
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AssociationFit3009 Mar 12, 2026 +6003
“rendered him no longer alive,” is one f*** of a quote.
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TomNookisACAB420 Mar 13, 2026 +2990
“Sustained injuries incompatible with life”
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SpartanDoubleZero Mar 13, 2026 +1146
Stamped his birth certificate “return to sender”
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ThrowAbout01 Mar 13, 2026 +398
Performed a Latest Term Abortion.
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TheThoughtSource Mar 13, 2026 +296
“Carried out a life reversal procedure.”
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meow_ima_cat Mar 13, 2026 +193
Gave him a premature autopsy.
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PhoenixDogsWifey Mar 13, 2026 +91
Final sale, deeply cut prices
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Cylon_Model-6 Mar 13, 2026 +83
Voided his last census data.
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blong217 Mar 13, 2026 +64
Forcibly relocated to a smaller, underground dwelling.
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NoAlien Mar 13, 2026 +49
Voided his membership in the breathing club
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DingerSinger2016 Mar 13, 2026 +273
Revoked his breathing license
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thenameofmynextalbum Mar 13, 2026 +249
Canceled his next birthday party.
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jan1320 Mar 13, 2026 +47
ok thats my favorite
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pumpkinbot Mar 13, 2026 +64
Put his heartbeat in permanent time-out.
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Scorponix Mar 13, 2026 +33
Compromised to a permanent end
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Fragrant_Cause_6190 Mar 13, 2026 +35
Cease and deceased
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chiPersei Mar 13, 2026 +42
Incapacitated to the point of no return.
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DarthGoodguy Mar 13, 2026 +140
“Deadass unalived bruh, no cap”
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Yell-Oh-Fleur Mar 12, 2026 +207
It's missing "literally", as in "literally rendered him no longer alive."
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ranchbringer Mar 13, 2026 +72
Then "I don't know how else to say it." Sounds like it wasn't pretty. Gotta be hard to give a press conference right after something so traumatic.
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--suburb-- Mar 13, 2026 +56
It sure is, but is made even more WTF by the next quote that clarifies he was not killed by being shot. Like…did homeboy render him no longer alive with his fists? A choke hold? A pocket knife? A 2x4? Sheesh…(I’m seeing below a comment that he was subdued with a knife)
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Accurate_Reporter_31 Mar 13, 2026 +23
At least two Cadets with pocket knives.
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CockatooMullet Mar 13, 2026 +14
“I don’t know how else to say it.” Like bro, I can think of seven other ways to say it - you picked maybe the least descriptive way to say it - tell us what happened.
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the_bird_and_the_bee Mar 13, 2026 +76
It's gotta be one of the best quotes I've seen in an article. I'm going to start using that phrase.
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wildstyle_method Mar 13, 2026 +18
I happened to have the news on earlier and heard this line delivered live. It's just as awkward spoken as you can imagine
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CeramicLicker Mar 13, 2026 +71
I wonder if the ROTC has medals? That seems like something he should get a medal for…
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[deleted] Mar 13, 2026 +69
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AssociationFit3009 Mar 13, 2026 +163
Dude is already more qualified than hegseth
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tibearius1123 Mar 13, 2026 +22
If they are contracted it’s highly likely they can get a Soldiers Medal and Purple Heart if injured. Iirc they are not eligible for valor awards outside a combat zone.
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willow-kitty Mar 13, 2026 +15
I think they're talking about ROTC-specific medals, which are completely different from active service but do exist. They're kinda like merit badges that represent things you did as cadets. Most cadet officers will have a bunch of ribbons and some medals for various things. I dunno if there's one of this, but I feel like their leadership would figure something out.
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asdechlpc Mar 13, 2026 +2482
A lot of jokes about the wording of this article, but holy shit those kids are heroes. Who knows how many innocent people that nutjob could’ve killed if it weren’t for them
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OuterInnerMonologue Mar 13, 2026 +846
It’s a good thing really - those kids do not need any more reminders they took part in killing a person. And I don’t say that lightly. They did what a lot of people couldn’t or wouldn’t do because they had to. Heavy stuff.
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gnowbot Mar 13, 2026 +445
Nobody wins. They did the appropriate thing. Not many people do the courageous thing in an impossible moment. And in doing that courageous thing, hard memories are also formed. I guess what I mean to say is that no (courageous) good deed goes unpunished. Saving a life is traumatic. Taking a life to save lives is traumatic. Often times these courageous acts leave you proud to see yourself in the mirror. At the same time, your dreams may be dark.
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Maleficent-Prior-219 Mar 13, 2026 +192
Well said. - Retired Combat Medic, USA
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Less-Damage-1202 Mar 13, 2026 +45
Very brave of them. It takes a lot to stab someone. Watching the life drain from them.. It's much more harder than shooting someone. Hopefully they don't carry too much of that burden.. They did what they had to do to save their lives, & the lives of others. That's all that matters.
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blownbythewind Mar 13, 2026 +176
They also lost a comrade in arms, so to speak. Person who died was ROTC, too.
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liam30604 Mar 13, 2026 +75
Might be why they jumped on him like they did.
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CDuffeyDuff Mar 13, 2026 +94
There were three ROTC members shot. One of them was their instructor, and is the one who’s confirmed to have sadly passed away. Not sure yet how the other two victims are doing. No other details of their condition have been made public other than they were ROTC students. So yeh, I’m sure the brave students who took this guy down acted quickly and without a second thought to prevent any other injury or loss of life.
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thebeef24 Mar 13, 2026 +36
I would guess he specifically targeted the ROTC classroom.
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CDuffeyDuff Mar 13, 2026 +32
Just heard the two other victims who were shot are in stable condition at the local hospital, which is such wonderful news!
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Chuck_217 Mar 13, 2026 +62
They did what needed to be done and now they will need a lifetime of therapy because of it. Despite what the movies portray, vets don't love killing people. It haunts us. They also lost a comrade-in-arms. This was not a victory. This was threat mitigation.
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kyeblue Mar 12, 2026 +1228
so he didn’t serve his full sentence and was able to obtain a gun after early release?! WTF
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ChairForceOne Mar 13, 2026 +155
I didn't see if it was legally attained. The gun referenced in the article is for the FBI sting. He was sold a 'prop' gun. Probably had the barrel welded with a plug. I doubt he was able to buy a gun. He was a felon. But the NCIS database has been missed with pertinent information before. Probably got it off the black market, from family or stole it.
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SabreLee61 Mar 13, 2026 +24
Also the guy was a would-be Islamic terrorist who spent the last decade in prison. I’m sure he knew some bad dudes.
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Acceptable_Oil4021 Mar 13, 2026 +365
Damn they killed a terrorist before getting a commission. That has to be some kind of record
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UnderstandingMany764 Mar 13, 2026 +76
I was in the service, and this guy's lore will precede him to every post, command, or unit he gets assigned to. F****** legend. 
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Spiritual-Matters Mar 13, 2026 +85
Can cadets get a Combat Action Ribbon?
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SylasSlays Mar 13, 2026 +87
Who cares give it anyway.
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Daniel_JacksonPhD Mar 13, 2026 +27
I'd bet my butt the injured, at the least, get Purple Hearts.
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adkio Mar 13, 2026 +31
That one friend who just installed the game and immediately carried the team.
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Healthy-Amoeba2296 Mar 13, 2026 +23
A veteran while still a student.
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DomitiusAhenobarbus_ Mar 12, 2026 +1031
This f****** guy tried to assist ISIS and only did a decade in prison what the f***?
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Chuck_217 Mar 13, 2026 +119
Not even a decade.... 2016 to 2024, only 8 years
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danj503 Mar 13, 2026 +169
These recent attacks, represent a 300 percent increase in ISIS inspired events I just ran the math. Edit: Over last 4 years: very low rate (~1–2 per year in U.S.) Last week: 2 attacks = Equivalent increase: ~300% vs recent baseline, but still far below historical peak.
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waynearchetype Mar 13, 2026 +121
The irony here is Iran is an opponent of Isis.
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Dramatic-Milk-8809 Mar 13, 2026 +12
When opportunity knocks…
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TheTomatoes2 Mar 13, 2026 +17
pretty much everyone is an enemy of ISIS.
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Guyonabuffalo63 Mar 13, 2026 +235
Only 11 years for directly assisting a terrorist organization?
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Rebelgecko Mar 13, 2026 +104
And only served 8...
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JactustheCactus Mar 13, 2026 +41
I’ve seen people with less than an ounce of weed get more time
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Sweaty-Handle-976 Mar 12, 2026 +1024
“She didn’t provide further details about that except to confirm the gunman wasn’t shot” What could bro have possibly done
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TheToxicBreezeYF Mar 12, 2026 +1174
Stabbed to death likely. Guaranteed atleast half of the rotc carry pocket knives
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Efficient-Box1661 Mar 12, 2026 +276
I think it's part of their required basic kit. At the very least their Gerber has one.
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BabyPatato2023 Mar 12, 2026 +178
Ahh yes the old “basic kit” for all the ROTC cadets lol
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Blue_Baron6451 Mar 13, 2026 +68
Strangled, bludgeoned, stabbed, could have even been a vehicle. I would assume it was either knives, or bludgeoned with an improvised weapon, some dude goes ham with a fire extinguisher on the head, dude's not getting back up.
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ThouMayest69 Mar 13, 2026 +20
Imagine thinking you're destined to die in a hail of swat gunfire, and instead you are descended upon by a bunch of students with knives. 
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Unlimitedpluto Mar 13, 2026 +31
He was stabbed to death.
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SerDuncanonyall Mar 12, 2026 +46
My money is on boots to the head or choked out until he turned blue.
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Oonz1337 Mar 12, 2026 +46
Someone else commented the report is they stabbed them to death
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Itwao Mar 13, 2026 +269
"The students subdued him and “rendered him no longer alive,” Evans said. “I don’t know how else to say it.” She confirmed Jalloh wasn’t shot but didn’t provide further details." Love this for him.
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MeccIt Mar 13, 2026 +114
*the only thing that can stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a ~~gun~~knife*
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pumpkinbot Mar 13, 2026 +28
> The students subdued him and “rendered him no longer alive,” Evans said. “I don’t know how else to say it. "If only there was a word to describe what happens to a person when they are killed..."
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HasTookCamera Mar 13, 2026 +641
bunch of unarmed students with more balls than the entire uvalde police department
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ContributionWaste205 Mar 13, 2026 +107
The majority of the 757 area code is military. Or at least military adjacent. Norfolk naval base. The shipyard. Langley AFB. Most of the people here are somewhat aware of how to handle a threat. Not all. Bunch of civilians. But I know I first learned* how to clean a gun and shoot at a young age. None of my family is military. We just live out here. Imagine the ones that are affiliated. I can see Langley and hear the planes daily. Most of the US f-22 are here. Edit* a word.
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MistAndMagic Mar 13, 2026 +27
Can confirm. Grew up close to Norfolk NAS as a navy brat. Was in martial arts (muay thai, bjj, boxing) starting at age 11-ish, learned the basics of how to handle a gun before I could even get my learners permit, and was given my first substantial pocketknife at about 12. A lot of my classmates were similar.
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hubblengc6872 Mar 13, 2026 +77
This right here. Hope those Uvalde cowards grow to old age with the guilt of having failed the most basic test of humanity.
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dilligafydsob Mar 13, 2026 +47
And Parkland
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34786t234890 Mar 12, 2026 +958
Their battle buddies are never going to hear the end of this.
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DiaryofTwain Mar 12, 2026 +463
Neither will their therapists
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This_Calendar_9290 Mar 13, 2026 +40
This is so incredibly sad. I hope the students get some REALLY good therapy
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LargeWeinerDog Mar 12, 2026 +810
ROTC student killed him with their barehands. Kid get promoted to drill Sargent for basic.
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PracticalYellow3 Mar 12, 2026 +248
And never has to buy a beer ever again. 
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lwp775 Mar 13, 2026 +39
Probably need a few beers after this.
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ill4two Mar 12, 2026 +229
ROTC≠JROTC. ROTC is an officer program. if they're in ROTC, they're not going to basic
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Killerpiez95 Mar 12, 2026 +184
In fact, drill sergeant would be a demotion
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ill4two Mar 12, 2026 +50
call your nearest sir a sergeant
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Klutzy-Delivery-5792 Mar 12, 2026 +14
Or vice versa
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NightFuryTrainer Mar 13, 2026 +186
Shooter “Jalloh is a naturalized U.S. citizen from Sierra Leone.” > went to prison for 8 years of a 10 year sentence for “planning terror attack” & “aiding the Islamic state” > for some reason wasn’t stripped of his U.S. citizenship (yes, this can be done for naturalized citizens by the state department) & deported > instead gets out of prison and commits the act of terror he had planned years prior > leaving 1 dead, 1 critically injured, & one injured but released from hospital TLDR: This blood is on the State Department for failing to remove him from the country & the fbi for not following up.
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equiNine Mar 13, 2026 +35
Denaturalization and deportation are still extremely rare even for terrorism related convictions because predictably, the home countries of terrorists don’t want them back either if they are proven terrorists. Of course, the current administration would be more than willing to deport to an unrelated country, but that’s more of an anomaly than standard operating procedure.
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papaswamp Mar 12, 2026 +152
'Previously convicted for terror, known to federal govt'... the meme just keeps itself alive. Good on the cadets for doing their duty.
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Charlottizen Mar 12, 2026 +326
Could someone leave a comment in this thread that doesn’t sound like it’s talking about a video game?
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atred Mar 13, 2026 +81
Press F to pay respects
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JewishTerror Mar 12, 2026 +106
Finish him!
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Sp3nc3r420 Mar 12, 2026 +1638
The ROTC students subdued him and “rendered him no longer alive,” Evans said. “I don’t know how else to say it.” Maybe spend less time on TikTok and you’ll remember how to say someone was killed. Did they cause him to lose his red kool aid when they unalived him?
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EddieCheddar88 Mar 12, 2026 +746
I think they’re just trying to avoid saying they beat him into oblivion
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Queermagedd0n Mar 12, 2026 +157
For legal reasons.
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Lucky-Bonus6867 Mar 13, 2026 +22
This is what I was wondering: if there was some type of legal basis for not saying that they killed him. For example, I think some jurisdictions have specific triggers for a grand jury requirement (which would inevitably not lead to charges in this case, but would perhaps cause undue stress for the victims).
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MenBearsPigs Mar 13, 2026 +74
I really cannot blame someone for just not stopping. A) you want to be 100% sure the risk is brought to zero. B) you're probably filled with a mixture of panic which turns to rage once you've got the upper hand.
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UTraxer Mar 13, 2026 +43
Like the Southwest flight where the guy tried to break into the cockpit and the passengers just piled on him like angry bees defending against a japanese hornet and just smothered him. To death. They just stayed on top of him and it was ruled a homicide but no one was ever going to prosecute a passenger for it
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AviationAtom Mar 12, 2026 +38
Probably more that it's still an active investigation and he isn't inclined to divulge too many details at this stage
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FaerieFay Mar 13, 2026 +26
Ya. I think they killed him with their bare hands.  Damn. 
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ElegantLandscape Mar 12, 2026 +118
Local, word is that he was stabbed to death.
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luckystrike_bh Mar 12, 2026 +51
It is not uncommon for Army people to carry street-legal pocket knives to cut cords or tape with. They can also serve as an emergency self defense tool. Edit: I should say it is common for Army people to carry pocket knives. My double negative is confusing.
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elconquistador1985 Mar 12, 2026 +46
Every Scout gets a pocket knife in like 3rd grade. Lots of people carry small knives.
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CautiousGains Mar 12, 2026 +474
Deceased victim is LTC Shah, commander of the ROTC unit at ODU and was set to retire in a few months after 20 years of honorable service. These heroic students watched this terrorist shoot their detachment commander and then stabbed him to death to save others.
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vonCrickety Mar 12, 2026 +202
For those wondering/wanting a source; it appears he was the instructor in the classroom and the shooter was specifically asking if it was a ROTC class before opening fire. https://www.wtkr.com/news/in-the-community/norfolk/lt-col-brandon-shah-identified-as-instructor-killed-in-odu-shooting
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filthy_harold Mar 13, 2026 +31
That makes a lot more sense. I thought the article was saying he was an ROTC cadet yet was flying helicopters in Iraq which wouldn't make sense seeing as pilots are already officers and ROTC is an officer training program.
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DangerousG Mar 12, 2026 +63
They compromised him to a permanent end
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Torin774 Mar 13, 2026 +30
I think the judge that allowed his early release should make a statement and be held somewhat accountable for the terrorists actions.
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docwayne Mar 13, 2026 +33
If a bartender can be charged because of a dui, I don't see why a judge shouldn't be liable in the same way
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clarineter Mar 13, 2026 +42
Dude brought a gun to a knifefight
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GoForthandProsper1 Mar 12, 2026 +60
That's baddass of the students But they may need some counseling and shouldn't have had to be put in that situation
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Emotional_Band9694 Mar 13, 2026 +47
those cadets are f****** hero’s
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X_Ego_Is_The_Enemy_X Mar 13, 2026 +13
My hat goes off to those students who took that coward out.
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aDirtyMartini Mar 13, 2026 +30
_The students subdued him and “rendered him no longer alive,”_ Threat neutralized.
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SolaceinIron Mar 13, 2026 +26
Looks like he came to the wrong house.
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trashrooms Mar 13, 2026 +25
“A former convict who spent 8 years in prison for aiding the Islamic State opened fire on a classroom at Virginia’s Old Dominion University on Thursday before ROTC students subdued and killed him, authorities said. He had yelled “Allahu Akbar” before the shooting, which left one person dead and two wounded, according to the FBI.” The “news” agency is literally downplaying religious-zealot terrorism, this is insane.
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embrace_fate Mar 13, 2026 +28
First off, kudos to them for their bravery. Secondly, that is something they'll carry forever. Killing isn't easy; it is an unnatural act for a normal person. (I don't know enough to speak on psychotic behavior to even claim to know what, if anything, they feel, and I work at a mental hospital now.) What helps them, oddly enough until you analyze it, is that they did this together. It will sound crazy, but having a fellow defender with you makes Killing easier to stomach. It wasn't JUST self-defense, but common defense. At least that is what aided my mind. Combat itself didn't "break me" as I was always doing what was needed to protect my brethren. Being injured, and then sent to work in the morgue in a walking cast, did. One, I was with new people, and lost my established "support chain." Two, was that I was now not in a position to defend my brethren anymore. Three, was when ones I knew came in. Having to fill out the DD 565 on a friend is what did "break me." Not in the moment, as I had a mission to do FOR my brethren, fallen as they may be. But afterwards, once home and NOT seeing them. Back home, on base, I trained my guys harder. Delved harder into teaching them (in case I was the one killed), and pushed them physically too. "Better shape, harder to kill" drove me. On duty, I was a better Marine. Off duty... Alcoholism and risk taking (free climbing, no safety gear for example) became my way. I stopped hanging out with friends. I didn't want to go home on leave either. Therapy, years later, revealed that my family was what I wanted to protect most, and there was guilt for NOT being able to stop deaths of friends. So I withdrew. Easier to pretend to "not care" than deal with all the feelings. I guess I'm rambling a bit, but I mean to say that while "killing guilt" gets lessened by being part of team, "survivors' guilt" is created when those team members die. It's the "damned if you do and damned if you don't" part of serving in war. I hope these ROTC guys stay tight, honor their bond, and that no harm befalls any of them. Right now, they need each other more than most people will ever know.
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Zestyclose_Fig3193 Mar 13, 2026 +13
Oh. The Shooter got Bayonet charged. H*******.
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derpiotaku Mar 13, 2026 +14
My son is in high school JROTC. Last week they were advised from "the top" to not wear their uniforms for the time being. Their uniform are basically indistinguishable from actual service members uniforms (they use old/donated service uniforms and modify them with their high school unit patches, etc.). Basically there are trying to avoid high school JROTC kids being harassed by people who may not be able to distinguish them from actual service members. They were also set to have a local drill meet this weekend, but the drill meet was canceled out of precaution (I assume this is part of the reason).
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leaveme1912 Mar 12, 2026 +104
That kid that killed the shooter is getting a good commission
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msbxii Mar 13, 2026 +14
He will have a medal citation written by the end of the day.  Can ROTC kids get awards? 
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Just_another_Masshol Mar 13, 2026 +19
Yes but at least for Navy they stay in ROTC but may help increase likelihood of getting desired MOS. Think things like high GPA or good PT scores. If they are technically IRR which is likely there's a chance that something like an Achievement Medal ir dare I say Soldiers Medal is on table
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InterestingUmpire738 Mar 13, 2026 +13
Soldiers medal is definitely on the table. There's a real possibility that if they were the one injured they qualify for the purple heart. It would take some clarification on whether ROTC class is considered an "official training event" under "competent military authority". If so and then they start their career with some crazy medals. Also GPA and PT scores are only part of the process for AOC (MOS for officers). The full process include GPA, PT scores (as you said), leadership evals, summer training performance, extracurricular activities, and cadre evaluation. This all goes into a national order of merit list (OML). The top person across the country gets the best chance at their desired job. I'd say they are going to get high score on leadership and cadre evals. May not be top of the list national but most likely at ODU they'll be top their graduating year.
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ack202 Mar 13, 2026 +11
Sad, I used to know LTC Shah fairly well. Was in my flight school class at Fort rucker around 2012-2013. Really nice guy.
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Real_Establishment56 Mar 13, 2026 +14
Can somebody explain in non-freedom units explain what an Old Dominion or an ROTC is? You all seem to talk about it as if it is just a regular thing but outside the US it mostly isn’t.
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IAmTheNick96 Mar 13, 2026 +20
"Old Dominion University" is in the thumbnail. ROTC is the Reserve Officer Training Corp. They are college students who have comitted themselves to officer training in the Military as opposed to just enlisting.
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BlackLeftHand Mar 13, 2026 +16
Old Dominion is a university in Norfolk, Virginia, USA. ROTC stands for Reserve Officers' Training Corps, a college-based program in the United States that trains students to become commissioned officers in the military while earning a degree.
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wolverineflooper Mar 13, 2026 +19
Get those boys drinks FOR LIFE.
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InternalOriginal6405 Mar 13, 2026 +11
Major props to the bravery of the ROTC students, the loss of any life is tragic but their (presumably quick) response likely saved a good deal more lives), hopefully the two wounds aren't lethal/too severe for the 2 wounded. I believe that the article mentioned that they stabbed the shooter? I've only been in JROTC so I'm not familiar with the differences but do ROTC students usually carry knives or is it just a special case of one of them happening to have a knife for one reason or another?
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Glum_Resolution_6076 Mar 13, 2026 +8
So the shooter was a specialist in the national guard and was honorably discharged in 2015. Arrested and charged as a terrorist in 2016 for attempting to carry out an attack. Released early after 8yrs and on parole under supervision. And then carried out an attack. This doesn't seem like a random act of violence by a lone gunman. It seems more like a prepared weapon for a controlled attack. Who did he kill?
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Jewnicorn33 Mar 13, 2026 +6
Also a local. I live in a condo about 2 miles from the university. 5 of my neighbors are professors, and my sister is a freshman living on campus. 1130-1215 was one of the wildest emotional roller coasters I have been on in a long time. Norfolk PD in conjunction with university PD were on campus in about 4 minutes. Between that and the brave cadets, it was an impressive response and a horrific situation that could have been so much worse.
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Fearless-Yam1125 Mar 13, 2026 +10
Kids have more balls than all of the uvalde police department
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StopSpankingMeDad2 Mar 13, 2026 +11
Give the ROTC students a combat infantry badge
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B_R_U_H Mar 12, 2026 +22
Hope bro never has to buy a beer for the rest of his life
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AzureDrag0n1 Mar 13, 2026 +15
Oh, it's this [Anwar al-Awlaki](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anwar_al-Awlaki) guy again. He sure left a legacy of inspiring terrorists.
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gunsforevery1 Mar 13, 2026 +13
Haha that’s brutal as f***. Glad they got him.
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