the rewrite was even worse - it was so wishy washy it would allow any country to justify any measure they want
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+636
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LordOfTheStrings83 days ago
+141
Trump is crazy.
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TheWizard3 days ago
+58
Feature, not a flaw, to his voters and supporters.
58
Pottski3 days ago
+22
Demented. His brain is shrinking in his skull.
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Pandor363 days ago
+7
It's not crazy if you are an enemy puppet. :/
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Thats_my_face_sir3 days ago
+1
Crazy enough to drop a nuclear bomb despite having "won" already? Perhaps
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KimJongFunk3 days ago
+55
I just kept scrolling 😰
The list is so long.
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Dear_Smoke69643 days ago
+20
He manages to be inconsistent, incoherent and incontinent all at the same time. One of these qualities should be enough to disqualify him from any job with a bit of responsibility.
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jmfeel3 days ago
+2
Funny how in almost any other country (many exceptions i know) he would have been destitute from president a while ago. But he seems and acts untouchable. Ive seen destitution for far less
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Reasonable-Turn-59403 days ago
+3
That is an insane list of outrageous claims and comments.
""They gave us a present and the present arrived today. And it was a very big present worth a tremendous amount of money. I'm not going to tell you what that present is, but it was a very significant prize.""
wtf? They gave US a present but the American people can't know what it is. WTF is he even talking about. Did they give him another fake peace prize or fake trophy for his collection of gifts?
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ArdaBerkBurak3 days ago
+306
It was already open before the US attacked.
306
LarxII3 days ago
+87
Even worse, we've shown Iran how much control they actually have.
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ProofByVerbosity3 days ago
+46
Iran can do much worse than that.
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faffc2603 days ago
+3
worse than sending the entire world into an energy crisis? especially asia?
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ProofByVerbosity3 days ago
+6
Yup, if I believe the guy on diary of a ceo i watched last night.
Destroying the entire infrastructure of the ME in his words making it uninhabitable. Apprlarently disrupting a day of flights in Dubai costs a billion.
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ProofByVerbosity3 days ago
+3
But youre probably still right if you also account for losing 30% of the world's fertilizer
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Mountain-Discount1613 days ago
+5
you have to wonder how much is trying to get the world to buy Russian oil.
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Elegant_Creme_95063 days ago
+5
When they close it again you guys will have to spend some billions more fueling all those boats and planes
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rTpure3 days ago
+1886
The resolution is extremely biased
It portrays Iran as the aggressor in the war, not US-Israel
1886
GreenTheOlive3 days ago
+887
"Russia and China strongly defended their opposition, both directly citing Trump’s most recent and [perilous threat yet](https://apnews.com/article/iran-us-israel-trump-lebanon-april-7-2026-421ee64fdc9a5c26460df8119c7d1b3f) to end Iran’s civilization as confirmation that the proposal would have given U.S. and Israel “carte blanche for continued aggression,” as Russian envoy Vassily Nebenzia put it."
Genuinely don't understand how you can read Trump's genocidal threats and think that the US is acting in good faith.
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OK_x863 days ago
+259
It has worked for Israel thus far and I suppose they thought they would get the same treatment.
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ProofByVerbosity3 days ago
+44
Russia and China probably dont give two shits about Isreals genocidal acts but they wouldnt want to leave any wiggle room for U.S aggression
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Whatdoesthibattahndo3 days ago
+63
I guess they kind of got lost in the plot and forgot that Israel's whole shtick is doing things no one else is allowed to do
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black_out1893 days ago
+41
How low you have to sink, in order for a statement about you by such a disgusting a**hole like Nebenzia to be accurate.
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Kukaac3 days ago
+74
It's just funny coming from Russian and China. This world is fucked.
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GreenTheOlive3 days ago
+83
Western Europe has abdicated their role on the international stage. Even Canada has show more of a backbone and they are our neighbors
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TangledPangolin3 days ago
+46
I was disappointed that France didn't join the veto. They were announcing their intention to join the veto for the last week, but withdrew at the last minute.
Maybe it's a case of Macron Always Chickens Out this time.
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HumansNeedNotApply13 days ago
+5
They vetoed the older one due to disagreements with the wording, Bahrein changed some small stuff around that France shifted from Veto to Approval lol
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Trick_Math420693 days ago
+36
What backbone? Since that one good speech Carney has done nothing. Canada is just as involved in America's military industrial complex as any state.
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WhatAmTrak3 days ago
+3
I mean, are we? We need to take care of ourselves too. And creating more hostilities between CAN and our very insane neighbour doesn’t do any f****** good lol. We can posture all we want but we have zero capacity to influence or stop this nonsense.
Stronger countries and Europe/EU who actually HAVE maybe a semblance of hope to stop it aren’t doing anything either so why should Carney stir up more shit in the pot when it leads to nothing except ire? We already know Europe also stayed basically idle when Canada was under threat also. Why throw a punch for an already lost fight when we are also just trying to survive. It’s not all black and white my friend; in a just world, yes I believe we should but that’s not the world we live in.
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Trick_Math420693 days ago
+10
Im not saying fight america, Im saying we shouldn't be helping them build bombs that they'll use to kill children....
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+6
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Zwezeriklover3 days ago
+11
What did Western Europe do in this conflict again?
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hcschild3 days ago
+2
Not condeming the US and blaming Iran for the oil crisis? Only countries that I've seen taking an anti US stance in this is Spain and Italy by blocking the use of their bases. Germany's Merz is guzzeling Trump's balls for example.
2
txroller3 days ago
+3
Trump pisses on our neighbors and allies and rattles is old dangly sword against I ran and shock. Little to know support for his and Israel’s war
3
HungryCurrency84813 days ago
+7
When has the US ever acted in good faith? Hitler and Milosevic needed to commit genocides for these bozos to finally look like the good guys
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KiLLiNDaY3 days ago
+242
This is the correct answer. It’s really sad to see some of the comments in this thread. Turn your brains on
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zuzg3 days ago
+73
>The initial **Gulf proposal would have authorized countries to use “all necessary means”** — U.N. wording that would include military action — to ensure transit through the Strait of Hormuz and deter attempts to close it.
The draft came from the foreign minister of Bahrain.
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No_Mercy_4_Potatoes3 days ago
+53
A vassal state of the US.
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Icy-Scarcity3 days ago
+5
They could have modified to explicitly say non-violent means. Why haven't they?
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yrydzd3 days ago
+5
That means countries could attack Israel to stop them from attacking Iran, right?
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monstersam_83 days ago
+20
Mostly Israeli or American bots.
20
kisk223 days ago
+76
This is how 90% of UN votes are, some dumb biased piece that news can post rage bait headlines from.
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deepbit_3 days ago
+53
Exactly, the resolution is an acceptance of US bullying in all levels, all of them brown nosers, UN speeches were shameful ,nobody pointed out who started the conflict and what was the goal.
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Shirolicious3 days ago
+10
Either way, don’t ever count on the United Nations doing something useful as long as there are veto’s.
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A_Nonny_Muse3 days ago
+602
As I understand it, Iran is letting any ship through if they fly a flag that doesn't support the war. So any nation can get through if they just refuse to help the aggressors. They don't even have to do anything - just not help the US and Israel.
602
refep3 days ago
+50
> Russia and China immediately followed up by circulating a rival resolution, seen by The Associated Press, which urged all parties to halt military activities and condemned attacks on civilians and civilian infrastructure. Nebenzia told reporters it was already in a form that could be put to a vote.
I mean…sounds reasonable
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Targetm123 days ago
+16
Russia should set an example and halt all their military activities too.
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LeftHandedScissor3 days ago
+10
When will Russia be halting military activities and attacks on civillians and civillians infrastructure? Or did they not feel like addressing their actions at this time because it's convenient for them?
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Fedora_Million_Ankle3 days ago
+4
When the worst person you know whats a great point
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TakayamaYoshi3 days ago
+18
“the resolution failed to capture the root causes and full picture of the conflict by not showing that America and its closest ally started the now spiraling war”. This is exactly correct. Closing the Strait of Hormuz and attacking GCC are Iran’s counter measure to US/Israel pre-emptive attacks on Iran’s military and civillian infra. To stop the closure, the US/Israel needs to simply stop attacking Iran in the first place.
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mikharv313 days ago
+100
Guys the US & Israel legit attacked first, idgaf my country (the US) is in the wrong and although it’s not my fault, i just accept whatever punishment the administration receives.
These guys need to be taken down, they’re stealing tax dollars making themselves rich and dismantling what has beeen built up for years. While also degrading/impeding whatever green transition we have.
F*** the American government, and f*** all branches of government currently sitting on their hands like they can’t do anything.
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notthemamaa3 days ago
+32
What a world, where we all are an unwilling audience to the whims of The C*nt of Mostly Crisco.
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witchofpain3 days ago
+5
Oh goddamn. That nickname!
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gnanny023 days ago
+330
It's a pretty said day when I side with Russia and China.
330
External-Praline-4513 days ago
+95
The US is aligned with Russia. Vance has just gone to kiss one of Putin's other lapdogs, Orban.
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MarquisInLV3 days ago
+31
And Trump thinks Russia is aligned with the US.
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External-Praline-4513 days ago
+44
Trump doesn't give a damn about the US. He's impoverishing its citizens and dismantling their institutions and standing on a global scale. He only cares about himself and his billionnaire buddies.
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mespec3 days ago
+7
And only his “buddies” when they serve him
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ModishShrink3 days ago
+3
They're only his "buddies" when he serves them, too. When you have the worldview of these people, every relationship is transactional.
Let's be clear: this man has no true "friends."
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Overbaron3 days ago
+1
Yeah. This debacle benefited Russia greatly. The US lifted sanctions on them, saving their shrinking war chest.
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mrwoozywoozy3 days ago
+7
Stop with this brainwashed propaganda bull c***. They align with some things and they hugely disagree on others. The US by far aligns with whatever Israel is doing.
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External-Praline-4513 days ago
+21
Brainwashed propaganda is believing they don't align with Russia. Why else would Vance be visiting Orban, who's just had a call leaked about being Putin's mouse. The US also aligns with Israel, it doesn't preclude that they are working with Russia, too.
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yvesp903 days ago
+3
I'm from Europe and your answer is weakening the EU. They align on that, not everything. Otherwise this veto would've been only Chinese. Putin wants more influence in Europe and Trump wants a weaker Europe. Trump mostly align with Israel and Imperial capitalists foremost, who align with Putin sometimes. But Putin fundamentally doesn't agree with neoliberalism, which makes him an ally. Nearly the entirety of Trump's is from the biggest Israeli lobbiest and not even funneled via AIPAC, but straight from the tap
Orban is the connection point because he has a veto in the EU which is constantly being used to block any action that can strengthen Europe. He's a Trojan horse that's valuable for both sides. And no surprise he's a fascist
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mrwoozywoozy3 days ago
+2
Yeah that's why the US fought so hard to topple Assad right? Cause Putin wanted that./s
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[deleted]3 days ago
+8
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External-Praline-4513 days ago
+8
Nope, they're focused on a fascist takeover and oligarchs snatching as much wealth as possible. The Evangelicals are focusing on armagedon. Trump's interests align with Israel and Russia, but he doesn't actually care about Israelis having Israel.
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nicht_ernsthaft3 days ago
+52
I don't side with Russia, they're delighted that the price of oil is up and sanctions are being relaxed, they're loving this opportunity to make more money to spend on aggression against Ukraine, the leverage this gives them. China, eh, I don't like their authoritarian government, but they're not the ones in the wrong this time.
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KITAPYIYEN3 days ago
+24
Sad for me too
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farhanbiol2013 days ago
+20
Although I should say USA is the biggest evil out of all three
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the4thwave3 days ago
+26
Yeah. Its insane how Europeans will act like Russia is somehow uniquely evil when the US literally did what they did but worse in Iraq not too long ago. And now again in Iran. While supporting the genocide in Gaza.
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External-Praline-4513 days ago
+22
We're perfectly aware how evil the US is, they've been insulting us and threatening to invade us, and are now unleashing hell on a global scale.
But Russia doesn't get a pass just because of that. They're currently committing war crimes right now, to one of our neighbours and allies. Like mass r***, bombing hospitals and schools, abducting thousands of children, and torture. And they'd love to carry on in the rest of Europe. They're also meddling in our democracies and committing cyber attacks and infrastructure attacks across Europe.
In fact, they're the ones that helped make their Russian asset Trump king.
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ArCovino3 days ago
+8
Over half a million people have died in Ukraine in the last 4 years. That’s far larger than Iraq’s death totals in twice the time.
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millanstar3 days ago
+8
I for one are all in for the Chinese century
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Sunnyjim3333 days ago
+2
A little bird was flying south for the Winter. It was so cold the bird froze and fell to the ground into a large field.
While he was lying there, a cow came by and dropped some dung on him. As the frozen bird lay there in the pile of cow dung, he began to realize how warm he was.
The dung was actually thawing him out! He lay there all warm and happy, and soon began to sing for joy.
A passing cat heard the bird singing and came to investigate. Following the sound, the cat discovered the bird under the pile of cow dung, and promptly dug him out and ate him.
***Morals of the story:***
*(1) Not everyone who shits on you is your enemy.*
*(2) Not everyone who gets you out of shit is your friend.*
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chloe-and-timmy3 days ago
+3
This is the second order thing the war is doing to people that I'm surprised the US is either unaware of or just dont care about. or maybe the people at the top really are just so insulated they think most people are rallying behind them.
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Carrera_9963 days ago
+4
F*** Russia. Yes, sad day, though.
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raistan773 days ago
+45
America/Israel started the war
This is the Benny/Donny war
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true_jester3 days ago
+12
Good. Zionists and their vassals can stop the attacks now and face the music for dragging the world down the drain.
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maxhsu19733 days ago
+16
You want to reopen the strait? Stop attacking them then.
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ClasherChief3 days ago
+3
It’s obvious a TACO is coming.
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Wet_Side_Down3 days ago
+7
Plus the conflict is hurting the US, so why would they try to stop it?
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PlayaNoir3 days ago
+6
This was the right move because the resolution would have been used to legitimize the unprovoked attack on Iran on June 25 and February 28th.
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Blubbolo3 days ago
+133
As it should.
- Iran has all the authority to close it.
- this shit show is the US and it's master fault.
- they are both gaining something by this situation.
Wanna open up the strait again? Tell the pedophile to back off.
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carlosos3 days ago
+1
> Iran has all the authority to close it.
Why do you think Iran has the authority to close it? Aren't international laws that nobody can close it to civilian boats if they stay in the middle of the strait? Even if those rules didn't exist. Wouldn't the other side of the strait have the right to decide what boats are on their side of the strait? It isn't like Iran owns the land on both sides.
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CackleberryOmelettes3 days ago
+36
> international laws
I think we're heading into a reality where international laws and "rights" don't mean jack shit.
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the4thwave3 days ago
+41
Iran is closing it as leverage to protect their people from being illegally bombed.
They are refusing to allow ships through belonging to people diplomatically supporting them being illegally bombed.
I think thats a fair position.
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Blubbolo3 days ago
+27
Because some morons declared war on them.
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asd_slasher3 days ago
+5
At this point, us and israel wiped their asses with international laws, then why should iran follow it?
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idontcaretv3 days ago
+9
They’re playing all the cards in their hands to resist an empire that has destroyed them and the rest of the world many times before, they can close the strait for as long as they want
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carlosos3 days ago
+5
Of course they can close but they don't have the authority to do it according to international law. It is like saying "I'm authorized to steal from the old women because she is weak and I'm stronger"
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+14
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d3c03 days ago
+3
Good for the goose good for the gander
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RagsZa3 days ago
+13
Too bad the United States has not ratified that treaty.
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United\_Nations\_Convention\_on\_the\_Law\_of\_the\_Sea](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Nations_Convention_on_the_Law_of_the_Sea)
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d3c03 days ago
+8
You’ve said this repeatedly now, what does authority mean to you and whose authority should Iran go beg to? Deranged Trump, the uncrowned king of the world?
It’s in Irans territorial waters, a mere 11-12 miles off their coast. Does the U.S. have the right to block hostile countries from entering so close to their shores? Navy or commercial, if you fly the flag of a hostile nation they can take a hike and should be treated like the enemy they are.
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dingo5963 days ago
+17
This is still a war of choice, America can just go home and the strait will be open over night.
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Tovrin3 days ago
+8
Russia wants to sell its oil and China is having no problems getting oil. All those ships that Trump are saying are getting through are headed to China.
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SleepingToDreaming3 days ago
+4
TACO Tuesday got a new meaning with this c***.
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Initial-Bass-58663 days ago
+14
The straight should not be fully opened until the Americans agree to pay for all the damage they have caused and all the civilians they have murdered.
Other countries can negotiate passage, but it should remained closed to all American associated ships until the Americans fork over the money to pay for all the damage done to Iran, Saudi, Kuwait, etc.
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MenaFWM3 days ago
+5
~~Americas~~ USA/Israel
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gerudosun3 days ago
+2
The US is broke as f*** we can't even keep our own government running smoothly
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Sloth-Overlord3 days ago
+1
Are you also including the UK, Germany, France, and any other country that has been complicit in the war?
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LazyCatRocks3 days ago
+7
I'm still hoping China will set up and mediate things. In times like these, they really seem like the only hope on the world stage to get things back in order.
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FaultOutside24493 days ago
+9
Why would China intervene in an American war? They don’t give a shit about Iran and if anything are glad that the American government is wasting military resources on an unattainable goal.
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ProofByVerbosity3 days ago
+3
Bingo. Never correct your enemy when they are making a mistake.
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MiraelDKana3 days ago
+2
Arab nations GCC are spineless cowards who can’t do jack, they’d sell their daughters to Trump .. did they condemn Israel or USA for starting the war mid negotiations., but the cry when their pockets are being hit.. they knew it was going to be regional, but again spineless puppets .. All that money and the don’t have a solid military, right now if Greenland invades Saudi the will capitulate in 2days lol what a poof poof bunch of so called leaders
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Other-Comfortable-643 days ago
+3
Aimed at dragging the UN into the war
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Lurkingandsearching3 days ago
+18
Trump literally handed them a win, so of course they want nothing to be done.
Edit: There seems to be a big misunderstanding on what’s being said about Trump being a useful idiot. Good times internet.
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Commercial-Set35273 days ago
+11
Tbf even France would have vetoed this BS if it didn't know China and Russia obviously would. It authorized full military force on Iran and they requested it to be defensive needs only.
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One_Study523 days ago
+41
They definitely want the straight open and the war to stop. Particularly China. But they also do want a functioning world order that isn’t just the USA and Israel destroying everything
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Littlepharaoh3 days ago
+53
What is to be done? Should the international order hold the door while the US and their expensive pet r*** their victim?
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NewAccEveryDay420day3 days ago
+7
Of course they did, china’s ships appear to still have passage through the strait and Russia is benefiting massively from reduced sanctions and increased oil prices
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One_Study523 days ago
+129
Also maybe the language was bullshit and blamed Iran for something the USA and Israel clearly are at fault for
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NewAccEveryDay420day3 days ago
+4
Sure but I don’t see anything incorrect about what I said. Russia is not taking a moral stance on this. This directly benefits Russia regardless of whether or not Iran is its ally
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Slight-Hedgehog2593 days ago
+26
Nobody said what you said was incorrect. They said ALSO, which basically means 'in addition'.
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Vio_3 days ago
+9
Both reasons are true.
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FatBoyStew3 days ago
+4
Ukraine put a big damper on how much Russia is actually benefiting from this.
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the4thwave3 days ago
+14
This isnt even true. China imports gas mainly from Qatar, not Iran.
China is not getting its energy needs fully met during this war. They are taking a principled stance against US imperialism and GCC complicity.
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Appropriate-Bug-64673 days ago
+13
Of course they did - because America's attacks in Iran are illegal internationally.
They are all war crimes.
The UN wants to paint Iran as the aggressor on behalf of USA. Nope.
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kinisonkhan3 days ago
+3
Trump is going to drop a nuke on Iran when he realizes he cant just walk away from this mess he help create.
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outofgulag3 days ago
+2
As long as there is Russian oil available for China and India why bother opening up the Hormuz strait?
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[deleted]3 days ago
+1
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WhisperingStream3 days ago
+6
The Democrats are just as shameful and flawed. The party system entirely has to go at this point
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quick20minadventure3 days ago
+2
She is a black/Indian woman. It was game over at that point.
No matter what Trump said or did, or what she said or did, the election was over.
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bwoah07_gp23 days ago
+1
And the world continues to be in a stalemate....
1
Capital_Elderberry283 days ago
+1
But “ they are good friends, and they like me”
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detectiverobert3 days ago
+1
Feels like everyone’s drawing lines now
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SpitneyBearz3 days ago
+1
I swear to God, nothing makes sense anymore!
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HumaDracobane3 days ago
+1
*Looks at the price of the oil Russia sells going high and China being supplied by Oil from Iran ans Russia*
I wonder why they did that!
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OfTheSevenSeasSir3 days ago
+1
what would the UN do if they agreed to open it? invade iran?
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