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Emotional-Dress8619 May 6, 2026 +78

everday that goes by makes me 100% sure that trump is a russian spy

noir_lord May 6, 2026 +47

Doesn't really matter if he is or isn't because *what would be different*. Whether he's a formal asset, an informal one or just batshit f****** nuts - he could scarcely have done a better job for Russia. At this point even if it came out that he *was* a Russian spy his cult would just shrug it off.

Pigeon_Breeze May 6, 2026 +5

Well, he definitely could have done a better job, but that's a question of competence instead of intention. Trump has done a lot to force the rest of the West to unite closer together without the US. Without Trump, I don't think that the EU could have drummed together the unanimity needed for the 90bn Ukraine joint loan. We also wouldn't have Mark Carney, who is now integrating Canada closer to Europe and has openly declared an intention to rebuild the international order that will be based in Europe. I really feel that with Trump's sheer idiocy, Putin has accidentally been the architect of his own demise.

Warjilla May 6, 2026 +13

Agent Krasnov.

Emotional-Dress8619 May 6, 2026 +4

exactly if ww3 starts tommorow dont be suprised if both of them attack europe

Logical-Bowl2424 May 6, 2026 -4

I love xxxx !

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Jealous_Response_492 6 days ago +2

Trump is beholden to a few groups, Russia, The Heritage Foundation, Thiel et al. A mere useful idiot, who's easy to placate for nefarious interests and act as a figure head and distraction.

Strict_Strategy May 6, 2026 -9

Pure cope by people who think he is a spy for Russia. Russia has yet to find any meaningful advantage by having trump if he was a spy. Hell the first term would have been perfect for invasion of Ukraine. Screams insecurity about how fucked up your using population is to allow a pedo and also be ok with Israel's lobbying which actually is the true source of spying and making the government to do it's c*** for them. Trump can only be controlled by his pedo ring sponsor which is Israel. Nobody will ever do anything about that as it will cause some questions arise which nobody wants to answer to.

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Brief_Hospital_1766 May 6, 2026 +2

He's too stupid to be a spy for anyone.

ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026 +7

Well at least China is buying oil from Russia and not Iran now they already have nukes. That's progress I guess. I just hope Iran doesn't cut a deal with Russia and start sending the troops for the meat grinder. Ukraine war was always going to drive Russia into Chinas arms. Which is one argument for appeasement and trying to draw Russia to the west. Maybe when Putin dies they will start behaving a little more congenialy and stop invading their neighbors. Until then then the gulags and wygurs camps are starting up an intramurial softball league.

Brief_Hospital_1766 May 6, 2026 +7

When Putin dies the next Tsar will most likely be even more imperialistic. They do not want democracy.

ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026 +1

A lot of countries don't. Probably will be, the Russians seem to have a love of strong man Peter the great types. Europe seems content to not get involved and China could care less about human rights and invading neighbors. Indian is buying guns and gas from them. So looks like we haven't solved anything and it will just be business as usual or nuclear Armageddon. I know which one I'm rooting for.

tvtowers May 6, 2026 +1

How can you be imperialistic with a broken economy? Jack the Ripper who can't afford a knife.

Brief_Hospital_1766 May 6, 2026 +2

I didn't say they would be successfully imperialistic. However, the Americans, and plenty of Europeans, are frothing at the mouth to open business with Russia as soon as possible. They will be able to build back their military very quickly, only this time, they'll have several years of war experience to base it on.

ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026

I would generally agree that after a war you have a hardened core of guys that are extremely effective. I don't know about this time though. It will certainly be the case for Ukraine. Iirc Ukraine wiped out a big chunk of Russian special forces early on. They have just been feeding the meat grinder since I doubt most of the soldiers on the front line will have any great love of mother Russia after this conflict. They will probably be the best hope of reform/revolution after the conflict. It's hard to build up the troops through the war then dismiss them when they come home.

tvtowers May 6, 2026

They've had real time experience lately, losing ground during their spring offensive and having their oil production facilities blown up every night. No effective means to counter Ukraine, despite having all the advantages. The Russian population is learning that war is an expensive hobby, not just in money but in freedoms. I frankly think you're wrong.

ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026 -2

I still don't know why Ukraine isn't pushing more remote attacks into Russia maybe they don't have the hardware or the west is holding them back. Shame they wasted so much on corruption and didn't build any kind of defense industry they were making a lot of the weapons during ussr times. Seems like they only tried to blow up the bridge to crimea once. That thing really needs a big hole in it.

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tvtowers May 6, 2026 +2

Obviously, Igor, the west controls Russia. Paternalistic idiot. You'll be seeing plenty more attacks, the FP5 Flamingo just made it's debut, the FP9 is in production. Shame they inherited corruption from Russia, whose oligarchs are teaching Americans how to screw a country. Shame America's educational system has deteriorated to the point where that's possible, in Russia Stalin's purge of the intelligentsia made that possible a few generations ago.

ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026 -5

We can agree that communism/socialism/leftism has corrupted a lot including America's education system. Much like Ukraine giving up it's armaments for guarantees of peace/protection the left is trying to convince US citizens the same thing about their personal weapons. Stalin killed the useful idiots after they put him in power and started making suggestions, no one every thinks they are the useful idiot until it's to late.

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tvtowers May 6, 2026 +3

Perfect answer, Igor. Frame it.

Brief_Hospital_1766 May 6, 2026 +2

I agree with most of your post, but this... >*"We can agree that communism/socialism/leftism has corrupted a lot including America's education system."* Couldn't be further from the truth. Source: Me. BFA from American University, BSc, MSc, from British universities.

ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026 -4

Looks like you got indoctrinated sorry that happened to you. I would suggested questioning everything but it's probably to late for you to question anything if your in that deep.

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Brief_Hospital_1766 May 6, 2026 -2

All of that is true but it doesn't change their calculus. They believe the world, especially the European world, belongs to them and they are owed its riches. They will never cease to be imperialistic and despite all their recent setbacks, they have shown an ability to learn and adapt.

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tvtowers May 6, 2026 +2

Suggest a solution

Brief_Hospital_1766 May 6, 2026

Russia should be broken up into its constituent nations and the nuclear weapons should be destroyed.

tvtowers May 6, 2026 +3

If we allow them to just go properly broke this time and not save them, that may well take care of itself.

Brief_Hospital_1766 May 6, 2026 +1

Appears too many Westerners are happy to buy the Russian dip again. We never learn.

KaQuu May 6, 2026 +2

> Ukraine war was always going to drive Russia into Chinas arms. Which is one argument for appeasement and trying to draw Russia to the west. It's the stupidest arguement ever, as it ignores that ruzzia was in Chinese arms long before the war started. Anyone talking about pulling ruzzia into the west club is delusional and knowns nothing about this nation.

ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026 +1

They were about in open war with each other in the 70s. There is an entire history of conflict between Russia/China. Even if most of the population of Russia is in Europe.

KaQuu May 6, 2026 +3

And? There is entire history of conflict between ruzzia and the west, they were at war with us since 89'. Let's ignore that China and ruzzia are closely cooperating, that they vote together in UN, that together they call for destruction of $, that they government systems are so similar, and couple more. Let's forget and try to get them to our side, like Bush tried, like Obama tried, like Merkel tried, like Sarcozy tried, let's forget all of this and just try... Delusional...

ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026 +1

You made the claim that Russia and China have been pals since way back, not me. Iirc Bush blocked them and shut down any conversations about joining nato. Obama sent Hilary with a staples easy button who sold permission for them to get control over some uranium mines. The cold war people are now the ones in charge of everything there is a lot of leftover anti ussr momentum in the system. Merkel is the one dependent on their gas. The US is fairly ambivalent unless some money can be disappeared into politicians pockets, and is busy taking advantage of their weakened positions around the globe. Your choice right now is do you want to drive Russia and China together or apart. I not suggesting appeasement you are, you really seem to have it on the brain. I'm suggesting interfering with a Russia/China alliance by any means necessary. We sent the CIA into Ukraine to f*** with their elections till it got the desired result and hunter on the burisma board. The Dems have showed Russia nothing but weakness. I don't think Russia respects weakness very much. I think the Republican/Trump strategy of projecting strength would go much further when dealing with them. But I'm just a dude on listnook.

KaQuu May 6, 2026 +2

Long before the war =/= since way back They are similar but they aren't the same. > Iirc Bush blocked them Not important, what's important is that they all tried to approach ruzzia, all wanted them to become closer. It shows your bias when you talk about those examples without understanding that the grand strategy at that time was to get closer. Also, not a single thought about what ruzzia was doing then, they were hostile and took hostile action all the time, yet you skip over it. Stop watching tucker, it's brainwashing you... > The cold war people are now the ones in charge of everything there is a lot of leftover anti ussr momentum in the system. Ah yes, that's why lavrov showed to Alaska in CCCP sweater, that's why putler is always saying that fall of USSR was the biggest tragedy of XX century. That's why they started bringing back communist names of streets and monuments. The ones in charge would love to resurrect USSR, how can you think something opposite astonishes me. > Your choice right now is do you want to drive Russia and China together or apart. There is no such choice, they already decided to go together, they are in it together. Exactly like ruzzia was with Reich, you aren't splitting them, before China goes back for their stolen land, but then ruzzia is gonna come to us begging by themselves. Again, the choice doesn't exists, it's only your delusions that it is. > I not suggesting appeasement you are, you really seem to have it on the brain. Oh? Me? Suggesting appeasement? Yeah for sure... Allowing them into civilized world, after all the shit they've done, that's appeasement, and that's exactly what you are suggesting, doesn't matter if you use excuoof splitting China and ruzzia apart, if the effect of that is ruzzia coming back to the West world, that's appeasement.

ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026

I think I'm just helping a paid troll get their post in at this point. By your logic no nation on earth should be allowed to come back to the civilized world they have all committed atrocities. Good luck carrying your absolutism and hate around I try be a realist and deal in practicality and facts.

KaQuu May 6, 2026 +2

Thanks for ignoring the rest of my points, nice you agree, next time just don't be shy and say you do:) You already proven that following logic isn't your strongest suit, so don't try. I don't have anything against Germany and Japan being a part of civilized world, as they took time to clean themselves from shitheads who were in charge, to attone for the sins they committed and to incorporate into themselves western values. If ruzzia decides to go on this path, cool, I'm gonna be cheering for them, and with time and with them proving that they changed, I'm open to welcome them back. But you aren't talking about something like that, you are talking about ignoring everything they done and welcoming them now, that's not being realistic, practically or in facts. That's wishful thinking, falling for delusions and again, appeasement. P.s Straw manning my argument only shows you don't have leg to stand on:)

ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026

You've constructed a straw man and are tilting at it. I've never said anything about appeasement you keep bringing it up my concern is not strengthening a Russia/China alliance because that is a bigger bear. On the appeasement front I don't think you are going to get Russia out of the ethnically Russian regions of Ukraine without direct foreign military intervention which the EU doesn't have the stomach for and the US doesn't have enough of a dog in the fight to care. The best strategy Ukraine can do is hit the interior of Russia with sabateurs or missles and turn public sentiment. I don't think Russia changes at all untill Putin dies or is assassinated and maybe not then. The best hope for them mellowing out is their business class that Putin keeps throwing out windows when they stand up to his policies. For clarification I don't mean there isn't nostalgia on Russian side for the ussr I meant that us cold war operatives who were fighting the ussr are now approaching the end of there careers and are high up in the chain of command. There is a lot of latent well earned animosity and mistrust amount US ranks from cold war times.

KaQuu May 6, 2026 +2

> Which is one argument for appeasement and trying to draw Russia to the west. You words. You agreed that there exists arguement for appeasement and trying to draw ruzzia back, I just mashed those two together for convenience, and through our whole discussion I tried to prove that this arguement you saw for this possibility is wrong. > I don't think you are going to get Russia out of the ethnically Russian regions Let's not address,, ethnically ruzzian" as I don't want to insult you again. I have a lot of family there, and that's not right. People thought similarly about German occupation, it's how most war works, it doesn't look like it's possible and then it happens. I for once can foreseen the scenario in which ruzzia is collapsing internally due to economic or social instability and due to that Ukraine alone is taking their land back. > The best strategy Ukraine can do is hit the interior of Russia with sabateurs or missles and turn public sentiment. Exactly, even with us agreeing on this, you still don't think ruzzia can be pushed back? Why is that now? > I don't mean there isn't nostalgia In my opinion there is much more than nostalgia, there is a desire to rebuild it, exactly because those people got high enough in ranks and for them those were the ,,golden age" of ruzzia. Either because it's true, or either because they were young then and can't differentiate between the two. Doesn't really matter. It's almost like when you don't burn out those individuals (like In Germany or Japan) they are gonna get the control back eventually and turn your country around. Coz I believe that between fall of USSR and putler taking control there was very brief moment of hope, it's sad:(

tvtowers May 6, 2026 +1

What section of your home are you trading for Russian appeasement? They were already saved by an IMF bailout that kept Russia's economy from cratering in 1998. They were invited to join the G8 and G20. There was even informal talk about Russia joining *NATO*, FFS. They're ingrates, a country that has invaded Georgia, Chechnya and Ukraine *twice* under the tiny bald Tsar. They telegraphed their intention to blow through Kyiv in 3 days and invade Transnisttria (home of "oppressed Russians") on day 4. And you want to appease them?

ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026 -2

Personally I don't really care it doesn't effect me. But the reality is they exist. 146 million people in the largest country in the world. Are you advocating genocide?

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ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026

I haven't advocated anything the facts seemed to have lead you to a particular conclusion though. Attacking Iran and syria seems like a good idea to wraken Russia but everyone seems upset about it when Trump does it.

True-Tip-2311 May 6, 2026 +2

No need, just put a fence around them and let them fight it out inside russia - by them I mean the smaller republics, dagestan, chechnya, buryatiya etc

KaQuu May 6, 2026 +1

Are you aware that most of those 146millions still supports the war? They complain about prices and internet restrictions, but when asked about war they don't see anything bad. I wouldn't advocate genocide, just build the wall around them and leave them to kill eachother as much as they like. We could look ther in a century to check if something changed, but I'm not holding my breath.

ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026 +1

I'm aware, state run media explains some of it but not enough to justify. Europe has been entirely to complacent about the whole war imo and US isn't going to militarily go in unless it's in support of nato/eu

KaQuu May 6, 2026 +1

> Europe has been entirely to complacent And what you expect Europe to do? Let's hear this out... Europe should've done more, I'm gonna be first to scream about this, but saying ,, entirely complacent" is just wrong.

30yearCurse May 6, 2026 +1

ru will want to get away from China, China already has claim to some land and I imagine if the power continues to shift ru may have to give up some.

ZealousidealState127 May 6, 2026 +1

For sure eventually they will want to shift the power back but for now they aren't in a good spot for negotiating.

Sandslinger_Eve 6 days ago +1

You can't appease an imperialistic leader, how are people still peddling this god damn c***, the west tried appeasement for decades allowing Russia to buy their way into power elite throughout the west, what we got was GOP ans extreme parties directly funded by Russia all over the west. Civilians being murdered on our streets, sabotage of civilian installations and civilian planes being shot down, killing entire governments And here you are still thinking there is an argument for appeasement towards Russia.... Kind of hope you're a bot

ZealousidealState127 6 days ago +1

How do I get this anti-appeasement troll money. No one is talking about appeasement. You guys seem to hear facts and come to an appeasement argument in your heads then get angry with random people on the internet.

Sandslinger_Eve 6 days ago +1

"Which is one argument for appeasement and trying to draw Russia to the west. " Also you "No one is talking about appeasement" I'm not angry at you, I'm disgusted by you.

ZealousidealState127 6 days ago +1

Lol I get it. You're mad at reality. We have all been there buddy. You can't change it though

Sandslinger_Eve 6 days ago +1

Not sure why you are so desperate to imagine me as mad. That's the feeling you are trying to illicit with your stupidity I suppose. That deserves pity.

generic1234321 May 6, 2026 +4

How? They’re sanctioned? They shouldn’t have access to liquidity

SenselessNoise May 6, 2026 +7

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