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News & Current Events Apr 11, 2026 at 5:12 AM

Russia's AK-47 manufacturer is making special bullets for its assault rifles to knock drones out of the sky

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Russia's AK-47 manufacturer is making special bullets for its assault rifles to knock drones out of the sky
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Russia's AK-47 manufacturer is making special bullets for its assault rifles to knock drones out of the sky
Kalashnikov Concern said it plans to mass-produce the 30-round cartridges, which are meant to be fired by its AK-12 and split into fragments.

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420printer 2 days ago +106
Ukraine is already supplying rounds like these to their soldiers. The rounds are new and the goal right now is a magazine per soldier.
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BritishAnimator 2 days ago -25
Gun needs dual ammo chamber
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antryoo 1 day ago +43
Far more practical to carry a standard weapon and load in a magazine of anti drone rounds when needed. Making the gun more complex and therefore less reliably is not a good idea.
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BasicMatter7339 1 day ago +7
How the hell would that even work? Reciever with two mag inserts? Or a double barrel AK?
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joelfarris 1 day ago +6
_KelTec Weapons has picked up their beer and entered the chat_ Seriously though, there's a pretty good recent YouTube video from a channel called Garand Thumb that shows some new multi-shot weapons in action, and also just how difficult it is to shoot down a small drone that's moving at you in a ziggy pattern and faster than 100 MPH.
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ShepardRTC 1 day ago +3
There’s a new round called the Drone Round that is fully compatible with 5.56. No changes needed, fires out of any AR. Seems to work well, but not available to the public at the moment.
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A_serious_poster 1 day ago +2
I wonder if there are any UGL rounds that are just a f*** ton of bird shot
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[deleted] 1 day ago -1
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Worried_Metal_5788 1 day ago +2
How could you fit a fuse and explosive charge into a rifle bullet? How would the fuse be lit?
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SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING 2 days ago +558
So… AA-47?
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Slippery-ape 2 days ago +86
You have just won firearm listnook for the day.
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Candyyf 2 days ago +42
I don’t get it? Is it a battery joke?
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Phrewfuf 2 days ago +5
Ok, that was impressive, not gonna lie.
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Ok-Breadfruit6978 2 days ago +25
AA = anti-aircraft
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norwegian 2 days ago +37
Battery = group of artillery weapons
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dubbzy104 2 days ago +10
47 = forty seven
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Fuzzy-Sweat6416 1 day ago +2
\- = dash
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Guaritor 2 days ago +8
If that was intentional, well done sir!
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BeckerHollow 1 day ago +1
If by battery you mean: an organized group of artillery pieces, you would be correct.  Of course if that was a pun, the subtlety is so fine … hats off to you. 
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phalewail 1 day ago +1
JK-47
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paecmaker 2 days ago +3
Name it HK-47 to win the star wars listnook as well for a day
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Bowsers 2 days ago +3
Well done, old chap.
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PaxGermanicus 2 days ago -1
AA67
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NateBerukAnjing 2 days ago +244
It’s 2026 and we still don’t have the Titanfall Smart Pistol MK5 to shoot drones
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dsdsds 2 days ago +50
…and we won’t have the ZF1 for another 188 years.
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Kaffe-Mumriken 2 days ago +90
Born too late to run headlong in to battle in a massive armored suit Born too early to run headlong in to battle in a massive armored suit
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Recent-Midnight6376 2 days ago +31
Born too poor for either anyway... :(
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Ok_Elk_638 2 days ago +4
Born too poor to be forced into battle anyway?
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Recent-Midnight6376 2 days ago +12
No, just the armor part
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Canadian_Poltergeist 2 days ago +20
Technically we do. They fall under the rather wide umbrella of smart rifles. Most "smart" innovations for rifles are terrible compared to a well-trained brain, though. The closest thing to the Titanfall gun would probably be the [TrackingPoint XS1.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrackingPoint) Yes it's real I know that looks fake af.
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NewPhoneNewSubs 2 days ago +11
I did not expect to see a vulnerabilities section on a rifle, but here we are.
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bitknight1 1 day ago +2
But that just changes where you shoot, bullet still flies straight. Smart weapons in movies and games can changes where the bullet flies mid flight to even hit somebody behind you.
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Canadian_Poltergeist 1 day ago +1
DARPA has made the [EXACTO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXACTO) round. A self-correcting .50-cal.
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anubis_xxv 2 days ago +6
They tried that with the OICW and the rifle cost more than a family car so they scrapped it. Easier to just teach marksmanship I guess.
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tacmac10 2 days ago
No, no they don’t.
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Vashsinn 2 days ago +4
Hear me out, hear me out.... Magnetic Granade Launcher.
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Y0RKC1TY 2 days ago +2
We don't even have TF3
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spambearpig 2 days ago +60
Back to Flak
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Kosmischer_Kohl 2 days ago +14
Amy Winehouse?
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panorambo 2 days ago +11
Army Warehouse!
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tagillaslover 2 days ago +101
Garand thumb did a video on these. Dudes kinda a chode but the video was pretty good and the rounds honestly seem fairly effective as a last line of defense against drones 
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Scriefers 2 days ago +125
Dude's 100% a big time Turkish-Toupee choder. Channel used to be cool, till his ego and personality got in the way and scared off his crew (Micah & Charlie). They were the ones that actually made the channel peak and then experienced a sharp decline when they bounced.
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tagillaslover 2 days ago +69
Yeah I pretty much stopped watching when Micah left, still look at a couple videos now and then but not many. There was also the whole thing with him wanting to breed and impregnate random women while preaching family values  
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Obvious-Science-7119 2 days ago +52
> There was also the whole thing with him wanting to breed and impregnate random women What?
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Admiral_Dildozer 2 days ago +12
Why is it so hard to just film videos? It seems like after a few years of YouTube your brain just glitches and goes “I actually beat women, charity is socialism, I’m going to cheat on my SO now”
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Obvious-Science-7119 1 day ago +3
well it's easy to make videos if you're a narcissist
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TailRudder 2 days ago +20
Same with T&P. Sucks now
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Zestyclose_Data5100 2 days ago +16
But new Cappy's channel is allright
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10YearsANoob 2 days ago +12
chappie got kicked along with the crew right? he has a new channel iirc
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TailRudder 2 days ago +11
Yeah I watch his new channel and haven't even seen a T&P video slow up on my feed in months. I actually thought he owned the channel before all that. 
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10YearsANoob 2 days ago +3
what's his new channel. i saw it once when ukraine war popped off then forgot about it
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TailRudder 2 days ago +16
Cappy Army 
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Soliden 2 days ago +10
He left when private equity took over T&P. His new channel is Cappy Army and it's the same format as before.
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CaptainJin 1 day ago +2
If we're talkin recommendations now, I've been watching Hop and Brass Facts recently. They're much less production-heavy but usually solid content if a little niche.
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burner2597 2 days ago +7
Micah confirmed left the channel? Or not appearing as much?
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Scriefers 2 days ago +29
Fuckers been gone for almost if not 2 years now. Own channel and everything, same with Charlie.
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TotalRepost 2 days ago +1
What’s his channel?
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TotalRepost 2 days ago +1
What’s his channel?
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bitknight1 1 day ago +7
I'm really Into firearm stuff but I feel like everyone I come across that's Into guns is shitty. Now I do live in a red state and everyone at my work wears maga merch so they are already dumb fucks but literally can't even talk to them about guns without them bringing me driving an ev into it or that I shouldn't hangout with their gun friends because they wouldn't be nice to me and that I would leave there crying apparently..
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ghost0326 1 day ago +3
I feel you, friend. Lotta ego, little self awareness.
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villadavillain 2 days ago +7
Administrative results did it better with a collab with the innovators of Drone Round.
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dickhouse__ 2 days ago +21
Bet 1000s of them continue to die in the meat grinder daily regardless of this incredible innovation
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archypsych 2 days ago +31
Look I don’t know shit. But a bullet is like a small shotgun shot? Seems drone competitive
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DismalAd6639 2 days ago +39
Instead of firing a single bullet it fires multiple smaller projectiles per shot improving chance of a hit.
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blackrack 2 days ago +40
Buckshot with extra steps
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lethargy86 2 days ago +11
Buckshot with extra range, rounds per reload, and faster reload.
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Lovv 1 day ago +1
But with significantly less pellets.
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AllMyNicksAreUsed 2 days ago +20
.410 AK would go so hard.
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Kondikteur 2 days ago +25
Isnt that just a Saiga?
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seeebiscuit 2 days ago +8
Pretty much
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GuyanaFlavorAid 2 days ago +6
Wait until they learn about the [AA-12](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atchisson_AA-12).
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drewts86 2 days ago +7
Everything I know about the AA12 I learned from FPS Russia
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Braveliltoasterx 2 days ago
Such a badass weapon. I'm sure in the future wars we will see some full auto assault shotguns return to counter drones.
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thegamenerd 2 days ago +15
So basically AK-47 Rat Shot, gotcha. EDIT: before someone gets the wrong idea, Rat Shot is like Buck Shot or Bird Shot except the balls are smaller and the caliber is typically much small, like 22LR
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Schrodinger_cube 2 days ago +3
Oh bringing back the old Flechette rounds eh? I do have a rifle round that shoots like this legally, its a .22 round that is a small buck shot like load for rat hunting or an expensive way to troll your buddy who doesn't check his ammo and gets mad missing 10 shots in a row XD.. So i wonder if its just a scaled up version of that rat shot?
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GroundbreakingVast22 2 days ago +3
Is this a haiku?
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ChainLC 2 days ago +11
just fuse a keese eyeball onto the bullet.
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prawnsmen 1 day ago +1
TOTK for the win.
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Bombauer- 2 days ago +3
This ammunition frequently fails catastrophically in the gun, maiming or killing the soldier. They'd be crazy to use it!
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blighty800 2 days ago +3
I mean you need a way to sell shovels during a gold rush
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-Average_Joe- 1 day ago +3
>a multi-element projectile that significantly increases the probability of hitting UAVs. like birdshot?
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LargeTell4580 15 hr ago +2
Rat shot, idk if im just miss remembering or what but I thought it was a thing since the eraly 2000s and you get it in .22lr or 9mm.
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myofficialaccount 1 day ago +3
FL-AK-47
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kqlx 1 day ago +2
without reading the article, im guessing its some kind of birdshot round in a specially marked banana mag for drones
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AnomalyNexus 1 day ago +2
They invented a shotgun?
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GhostofBreadDragons 2 days ago +5
So here is question.  Is this just an excuse to make a flechette round that would normally be considered a war crime?  I would never want to accuse Russia of intentionally looking for ways to commit war crimes, but when the vodka fits. 
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dasreboot 2 days ago +12
How are flechettesca war crime?
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xtremepado 2 days ago +33
There are no international laws against flechette rounds
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hugelkult 2 days ago +8
Look around. Warcrimes are very much on the table
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CaptainAction 2 days ago +4
I think their need to shoot down drones is way greater than any cruel desire to use flechettes. The troops are terrified of those drones for good reason and they don’t have amazing tools for dealing with them
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xobot 1 day ago +1
That term is so 19xx. Today nobody cares.
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flipside438 2 days ago +1
Good ole blunder buster
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HighPriestofShiloh 2 days ago +1
I am guessing it works like a shotgun.
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ArthurDaTrainDayne 2 days ago +1
Wow just in time! /s
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Mr_Gaslight 2 days ago +1
Birdshot?
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tim_dude 1 day ago +1
A lot of ammo and firearms manufacturers are making or planning to make anti-drone ammo
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azzi008 1 day ago +1
So bullets?
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Pumpkins_Are_Fruits 1 day ago +1
I’m not experience enough in drone warfare. Why not use a shot gun with bird shot?
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HixOff 1 day ago +1
flight distance of the small shotgun pellets is too short
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Gunsensual 2 days ago +23
Because it would convert the automatics they already have into automatic shotguns. Even if it's inferior to a shotgun it would give soldiers something to work with. If you've seen the videos, you know most of their soldiers hide because normal kit is terrible for shooting at drones. FYI most of their rifles are 5.45 or 7.62 mm. 5.56 is NATO.
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10YearsANoob 2 days ago +2
arent saigas just AKs but rebored to fire 12ga? 
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frozenpissglove 2 days ago +4
Yes but no. Mostly. That’s the gist of it. But an AK with rounds that act like a shotgun you get full auto fire that is relatively controllable, with a lot more rounds to get the job done.
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tagillaslover 2 days ago +21
Because then you have to carry an additional piece of equipment just to shoot drones down. Also the other normal drawbacks of shotguns. They aren’t completely useless but it’s worth trying to find a better solution's
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A_Poor_Miser 2 days ago -5
Snake shot. It's just snake shot. 
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tagillaslover 2 days ago +8
Not really. It has a longer effective range and also cycles in full and semi auto 
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zapfag 2 days ago +1
Imaging doing no research of effort to not be wrong, yet still correcting someone else
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A_Poor_Miser 2 days ago
Correcting? What are you talking about? 
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DismalAd6639 2 days ago +7
NATO also has drone rounds. The shotgun has many drawbacks
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KopOut 2 days ago +2
I’ve seen videos of the drone attacks on infantry. Seems like if you don’t have the shotgun in your hand you wouldn’t have time to pull it out and fire. And if you are walking around with a shotgun you better not have to shoot at anything at any type of range. These drones are literally just flying bombs that move extremely fast and detonate on impact (with a human).
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Extension_Quit_2190 2 days ago +1
Infantry general from c&c generals zero hour
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Equivalent-Resort-63 2 days ago +1
So it’s just a small shotgun round with fewer pellets and somewhat longer range. Better have full auto on that to hit a fast moving object.
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gradinaruvasile 2 days ago +3
Full auto with 30 rounds from a handheld assault rifle (mostly AKs) at small moving objects are not a winning combination. There were videos of ukrainians shooting down drones with this kind of ammo. They shot semi auto.
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unematti 2 days ago +15
Wait what? Just change to rubber removed the sound so much?
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Petaranax 2 days ago +7
Its bullshit statement as you can tell, at most it can reduce 1-2db of noise which not even noticeable difference to majority of people, even with the change of pitch to lower frequencies.
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unematti 2 days ago +1
So maybe it's just more durable under fire
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DTRite 2 days ago +2
Or just under flight. My drone's props have been replaced a few times...I'm not a great pilot, it's an old ones before they got better.
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Rare_Appointment_604 1 day ago +1
Have you EVER seen a FPV drone in real life?
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xobot 1 day ago +1
Dude I have a 1950s fan from my grandpa. With rubber fins. Google "vintage fan rubber fins" for picture. It sounds just like your regular fan, the fin material doesn't grant you any sound deadening.
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Typingdude3 2 days ago +1
Some of these drones have heat sensing cameras so they can attack at night. Can’t shoot at a drone in the dark.
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Admiral_Dildozer 2 days ago +1
I’m not saying all troops on the frontline in Ukraine have night vision. But if anyone is going to have or need night vision it’s the troops on the frontline in Ukraine. Men on the ground often see and hear the drones long before they strike. The issue is killing the drone before it flys into your formation at 70mph and explodes.
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xX609s-hartXx 2 days ago
Oh shit, I hear a drone! Let me just change magazines here... rick-click-cl-BAMM!
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rapzeh 2 days ago +3
I think it makes sense for isr drones first of all, where you aren't even attacked. Also, at this point it probably makes more sense to default on this ammonand switch to normal ammo in case you encounter enemy infantry, whis is less of a risk and also allows more reaction time
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BasicMatter7339 2 days ago -5
Ak-47s haven't been manufactured since the 50s lmao
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Admiral_Dildozer 2 days ago +1
Russia (obviously) but also Bulgaria, Poland, and Serbia have domestic arms companies that produce AK’s. Even the U.S. has a domestic producer. Granted they’re not exactly the same 50’s models but the changes are minor and it’s still pretty much the same AK. There are several examples of gun designs 100 years old or older currently being used by modern militaries. A good gun is a good gun.
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BasicMatter7339 1 day ago +1
They don't produce '47s though Serbians produce the Zastava M70, Bulgaria the AR-M1, Poland makes the FB beryl. Sure, all AK's but none of them are '47s
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Admiral_Dildozer 1 day ago +1
Yeah you’re right. They’re not 47’s and I didn’t really focus on that part. They’re all modern or country specific variants.
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BasicMatter7339 1 day ago +1
Yeah thats my exact gripe with the headline because there are no ak-47 manufacturers anywhere anymore as their production stopped in 1959. Not even north korea makes their ak-47 clones anymore.
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zloykrolik 1 day ago
> 100 years old or older currently being used by modern militaries. M2 machine gun has entered the conversation.
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A-Real-Boomhauer 2 days ago
Do they still make the stock models
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Specialist-Many-8432 2 days ago
AA ak47 rounds before gta6. Smh
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Inevitable_Butthole 2 days ago -2
Why do we even have AI if it cant do aim assist irl
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SRM_Thornfoot 2 days ago -1
Over here we call that birdshot.
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crazedizzled 2 days ago -1
I don't understand why they don't just have undermounted shotguns. Or just carry a shotgun. Assuming you saw it coming, shooting a drone with a shotgun should be ezpz.
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Hondamousse 2 days ago +3
Because carrying a second long gun and rounds for it is expensive, and heavy, and shotguns have a more limited magazine capacity. Underbarrel shotguns have awful range, and even more limited capacity. Drones are way faster than you’re imagining in this scenario. Having 30 rounds to try and take one down at a better range and higher muzzle velocity is ultimately why this is the better option.
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crazedizzled 2 days ago
Hitting a small fast moving target with a rifle bullet is infinitely more difficult than with a shotgun. It's not like shotguns in war are weird. The US used the shit out of shotguns in Iraq. I'd for damn sure rather carry around an extra 10 pounds if it gave me some amount of hope against a drone.
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Hondamousse 2 days ago +1
Right, which is why these particular rounds are similar to shotgun pellets, just… “different”. There are multiple projectiles. The 556 versions of these have a muzzle velocity of around 3000 fps, shotguns are around 1200 with birdshot.
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Suspicious_Safe7647 2 days ago -13
Oh yes I read about this. The Anti-Robot Bullets. They are called EDPs \[Electronically Disruptive Projectiles \]. I don't known how they work, but I do think its interesting were developing ammunition designed for electronics. This is probably gonna come off dark humor as hell but here If people cant even shoot each other and just start shooting each other's toys doesn't that mean war is literally pointless? Ironically there is more respect in blood spilt and lost then whatever this is turning into. And as usual it will likely be used against some country that can hardly even hold a house together.
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