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420printer Apr 11, 2026 +106

Ukraine is already supplying rounds like these to their soldiers. The rounds are new and the goal right now is a magazine per soldier.

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BritishAnimator Apr 11, 2026 -25

Gun needs dual ammo chamber

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antryoo Apr 11, 2026 +43

Far more practical to carry a standard weapon and load in a magazine of anti drone rounds when needed. Making the gun more complex and therefore less reliably is not a good idea.

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BasicMatter7339 Apr 11, 2026 +7

How the hell would that even work? Reciever with two mag inserts? Or a double barrel AK?

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joelfarris Apr 11, 2026 +6

_KelTec Weapons has picked up their beer and entered the chat_ Seriously though, there's a pretty good recent YouTube video from a channel called Garand Thumb that shows some new multi-shot weapons in action, and also just how difficult it is to shoot down a small drone that's moving at you in a ziggy pattern and faster than 100 MPH.

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ShepardRTC Apr 12, 2026 +3

There’s a new round called the Drone Round that is fully compatible with 5.56. No changes needed, fires out of any AR. Seems to work well, but not available to the public at the moment.

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A_serious_poster Apr 12, 2026 +2

I wonder if there are any UGL rounds that are just a f*** ton of bird shot

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[deleted] Apr 11, 2026 -1

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Worried_Metal_5788 Apr 11, 2026 +2

How could you fit a fuse and explosive charge into a rifle bullet? How would the fuse be lit?

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SHUT_DOWN_EVERYTHING Apr 11, 2026 +558

So… AA-47?

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Slippery-ape Apr 11, 2026 +86

You have just won firearm listnook for the day.

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Candyyf Apr 11, 2026 +42

I don’t get it? Is it a battery joke?

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Phrewfuf Apr 11, 2026 +5

Ok, that was impressive, not gonna lie.

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Ok-Breadfruit6978 Apr 11, 2026 +25

AA = anti-aircraft

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norwegian Apr 11, 2026 +37

Battery = group of artillery weapons

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dubbzy104 Apr 11, 2026 +10

47 = forty seven

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Fuzzy-Sweat6416 Apr 11, 2026 +2

\- = dash

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Guaritor Apr 11, 2026 +8

If that was intentional, well done sir!

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BeckerHollow Apr 11, 2026 +1

If by battery you mean: an organized group of artillery pieces, you would be correct. Of course if that was a pun, the subtlety is so fine … hats off to you.

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phalewail Apr 12, 2026 +1

JK-47

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paecmaker Apr 11, 2026 +3

Name it HK-47 to win the star wars listnook as well for a day

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Bowsers Apr 11, 2026 +3

Well done, old chap.

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PaxGermanicus Apr 11, 2026 -1

AA67

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NateBerukAnjing Apr 11, 2026 +244

It’s 2026 and we still don’t have the Titanfall Smart Pistol MK5 to shoot drones

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dsdsds Apr 11, 2026 +50

…and we won’t have the ZF1 for another 188 years.

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Kaffe-Mumriken Apr 11, 2026 +90

Born too late to run headlong in to battle in a massive armored suit Born too early to run headlong in to battle in a massive armored suit

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Recent-Midnight6376 Apr 11, 2026 +31

Born too poor for either anyway... :(

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Ok_Elk_638 Apr 11, 2026 +4

Born too poor to be forced into battle anyway?

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Recent-Midnight6376 Apr 11, 2026 +12

No, just the armor part

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Canadian_Poltergeist Apr 11, 2026 +20

Technically we do. They fall under the rather wide umbrella of smart rifles. Most "smart" innovations for rifles are terrible compared to a well-trained brain, though. The closest thing to the Titanfall gun would probably be the [TrackingPoint XS1.](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/TrackingPoint) Yes it's real I know that looks fake af.

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NewPhoneNewSubs Apr 11, 2026 +11

I did not expect to see a vulnerabilities section on a rifle, but here we are.

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bitknight1 Apr 11, 2026 +2

But that just changes where you shoot, bullet still flies straight. Smart weapons in movies and games can changes where the bullet flies mid flight to even hit somebody behind you.

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Canadian_Poltergeist Apr 11, 2026 +1

DARPA has made the [EXACTO](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EXACTO) round. A self-correcting .50-cal.

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anubis_xxv Apr 11, 2026 +6

They tried that with the OICW and the rifle cost more than a family car so they scrapped it. Easier to just teach marksmanship I guess.

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[deleted] Apr 11, 2026 -2

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tacmac10 Apr 11, 2026

No, no they don’t.

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Vashsinn Apr 11, 2026 +4

Hear me out, hear me out.... Magnetic Granade Launcher.

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Y0RKC1TY Apr 11, 2026 +2

We don't even have TF3

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spambearpig Apr 11, 2026 +60

Back to Flak

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Kosmischer_Kohl Apr 11, 2026 +14

Amy Winehouse?

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panorambo Apr 11, 2026 +11

Army Warehouse!

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tagillaslover Apr 11, 2026 +101

Garand thumb did a video on these. Dudes kinda a chode but the video was pretty good and the rounds honestly seem fairly effective as a last line of defense against drones

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Scriefers Apr 11, 2026 +125

Dude's 100% a big time Turkish-Toupee choder. Channel used to be cool, till his ego and personality got in the way and scared off his crew (Micah & Charlie). They were the ones that actually made the channel peak and then experienced a sharp decline when they bounced.

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tagillaslover Apr 11, 2026 +69

Yeah I pretty much stopped watching when Micah left, still look at a couple videos now and then but not many. There was also the whole thing with him wanting to breed and impregnate random women while preaching family values

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Obvious-Science-7119 Apr 11, 2026 +52

> There was also the whole thing with him wanting to breed and impregnate random women What?

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Admiral_Dildozer Apr 11, 2026 +12

Why is it so hard to just film videos? It seems like after a few years of YouTube your brain just glitches and goes “I actually beat women, charity is socialism, I’m going to cheat on my SO now”

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Obvious-Science-7119 Apr 11, 2026 +3

well it's easy to make videos if you're a narcissist

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TailRudder Apr 11, 2026 +20

Same with T&P. Sucks now

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Zestyclose_Data5100 Apr 11, 2026 +16

But new Cappy's channel is allright

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10YearsANoob Apr 11, 2026 +12

chappie got kicked along with the crew right? he has a new channel iirc

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TailRudder Apr 11, 2026 +11

Yeah I watch his new channel and haven't even seen a T&P video slow up on my feed in months. I actually thought he owned the channel before all that.

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10YearsANoob Apr 11, 2026 +3

what's his new channel. i saw it once when ukraine war popped off then forgot about it

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TailRudder Apr 11, 2026 +16

Cappy Army

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Soliden Apr 11, 2026 +10

He left when private equity took over T&P. His new channel is Cappy Army and it's the same format as before.

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CaptainJin Apr 11, 2026 +2

If we're talkin recommendations now, I've been watching Hop and Brass Facts recently. They're much less production-heavy but usually solid content if a little niche.

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burner2597 Apr 11, 2026 +7

Micah confirmed left the channel? Or not appearing as much?

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Scriefers Apr 11, 2026 +29

Fuckers been gone for almost if not 2 years now. Own channel and everything, same with Charlie.

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TotalRepost Apr 11, 2026 +1

What’s his channel?

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TotalRepost Apr 11, 2026 +1

What’s his channel?

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bitknight1 Apr 11, 2026 +7

I'm really Into firearm stuff but I feel like everyone I come across that's Into guns is shitty. Now I do live in a red state and everyone at my work wears maga merch so they are already dumb fucks but literally can't even talk to them about guns without them bringing me driving an ev into it or that I shouldn't hangout with their gun friends because they wouldn't be nice to me and that I would leave there crying apparently..

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ghost0326 Apr 11, 2026 +3

I feel you, friend. Lotta ego, little self awareness.

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villadavillain Apr 11, 2026 +7

Administrative results did it better with a collab with the innovators of Drone Round.

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dickhouse__ Apr 11, 2026 +21

Bet 1000s of them continue to die in the meat grinder daily regardless of this incredible innovation

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archypsych Apr 11, 2026 +31

Look I don’t know shit. But a bullet is like a small shotgun shot? Seems drone competitive

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DismalAd6639 Apr 11, 2026 +39

Instead of firing a single bullet it fires multiple smaller projectiles per shot improving chance of a hit.

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blackrack Apr 11, 2026 +40

Buckshot with extra steps

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lethargy86 Apr 11, 2026 +11

Buckshot with extra range, rounds per reload, and faster reload.

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Lovv Apr 12, 2026 +1

But with significantly less pellets.

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AllMyNicksAreUsed Apr 11, 2026 +20

.410 AK would go so hard.

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Kondikteur Apr 11, 2026 +25

Isnt that just a Saiga?

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seeebiscuit Apr 11, 2026 +8

Pretty much

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GuyanaFlavorAid Apr 11, 2026 +6

Wait until they learn about the [AA-12](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atchisson_AA-12).

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drewts86 Apr 11, 2026 +7

Everything I know about the AA12 I learned from FPS Russia

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Braveliltoasterx Apr 11, 2026

Such a badass weapon. I'm sure in the future wars we will see some full auto assault shotguns return to counter drones.

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thegamenerd Apr 11, 2026 +15

So basically AK-47 Rat Shot, gotcha. EDIT: before someone gets the wrong idea, Rat Shot is like Buck Shot or Bird Shot except the balls are smaller and the caliber is typically much small, like 22LR

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Schrodinger_cube Apr 11, 2026 +3

Oh bringing back the old Flechette rounds eh? I do have a rifle round that shoots like this legally, its a .22 round that is a small buck shot like load for rat hunting or an expensive way to troll your buddy who doesn't check his ammo and gets mad missing 10 shots in a row XD.. So i wonder if its just a scaled up version of that rat shot?

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GroundbreakingVast22 Apr 11, 2026 +3

Is this a haiku?

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ChainLC Apr 11, 2026 +11

just fuse a keese eyeball onto the bullet.

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prawnsmen Apr 12, 2026 +1

TOTK for the win.

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Bombauer- Apr 11, 2026 +3

This ammunition frequently fails catastrophically in the gun, maiming or killing the soldier. They'd be crazy to use it!

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blighty800 Apr 11, 2026 +3

I mean you need a way to sell shovels during a gold rush

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-Average_Joe- Apr 11, 2026 +3

>a multi-element projectile that significantly increases the probability of hitting UAVs. like birdshot?

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LargeTell4580 Apr 13, 2026 +2

Rat shot, idk if im just miss remembering or what but I thought it was a thing since the eraly 2000s and you get it in .22lr or 9mm.

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myofficialaccount Apr 11, 2026 +3

FL-AK-47

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kqlx Apr 11, 2026 +2

without reading the article, im guessing its some kind of birdshot round in a specially marked banana mag for drones

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AnomalyNexus Apr 12, 2026 +2

They invented a shotgun?

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GhostofBreadDragons Apr 11, 2026 +5

So here is question. Is this just an excuse to make a flechette round that would normally be considered a war crime? I would never want to accuse Russia of intentionally looking for ways to commit war crimes, but when the vodka fits.

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dasreboot Apr 11, 2026 +12

How are flechettesca war crime?

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xtremepado Apr 11, 2026 +33

There are no international laws against flechette rounds

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hugelkult Apr 11, 2026 +8

Look around. Warcrimes are very much on the table

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CaptainAction Apr 11, 2026 +4

I think their need to shoot down drones is way greater than any cruel desire to use flechettes. The troops are terrified of those drones for good reason and they don’t have amazing tools for dealing with them

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xobot Apr 11, 2026 +1

That term is so 19xx. Today nobody cares.

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flipside438 Apr 11, 2026 +1

Good ole blunder buster

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HighPriestofShiloh Apr 11, 2026 +1

I am guessing it works like a shotgun.

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ArthurDaTrainDayne Apr 11, 2026 +1

Wow just in time! /s

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Mr_Gaslight Apr 11, 2026 +1

Birdshot?

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tim_dude Apr 11, 2026 +1

A lot of ammo and firearms manufacturers are making or planning to make anti-drone ammo

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azzi008 Apr 12, 2026 +1

So bullets?

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Pumpkins_Are_Fruits Apr 12, 2026 +1

I’m not experience enough in drone warfare. Why not use a shot gun with bird shot?

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HixOff Apr 12, 2026 +1

flight distance of the small shotgun pellets is too short

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[deleted] Apr 11, 2026 -3

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Gunsensual Apr 11, 2026 +23

Because it would convert the automatics they already have into automatic shotguns. Even if it's inferior to a shotgun it would give soldiers something to work with. If you've seen the videos, you know most of their soldiers hide because normal kit is terrible for shooting at drones. FYI most of their rifles are 5.45 or 7.62 mm. 5.56 is NATO.

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10YearsANoob Apr 11, 2026 +2

arent saigas just AKs but rebored to fire 12ga?

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frozenpissglove Apr 11, 2026 +4

Yes but no. Mostly. That’s the gist of it. But an AK with rounds that act like a shotgun you get full auto fire that is relatively controllable, with a lot more rounds to get the job done.

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tagillaslover Apr 11, 2026 +21

Because then you have to carry an additional piece of equipment just to shoot drones down. Also the other normal drawbacks of shotguns. They aren’t completely useless but it’s worth trying to find a better solution's

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A_Poor_Miser Apr 11, 2026 -5

Snake shot. It's just snake shot.

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tagillaslover Apr 11, 2026 +8

Not really. It has a longer effective range and also cycles in full and semi auto

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zapfag Apr 11, 2026 +1

Imaging doing no research of effort to not be wrong, yet still correcting someone else

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A_Poor_Miser Apr 11, 2026

Correcting? What are you talking about?

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DismalAd6639 Apr 11, 2026 +7

NATO also has drone rounds. The shotgun has many drawbacks

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KopOut Apr 11, 2026 +2

I’ve seen videos of the drone attacks on infantry. Seems like if you don’t have the shotgun in your hand you wouldn’t have time to pull it out and fire. And if you are walking around with a shotgun you better not have to shoot at anything at any type of range. These drones are literally just flying bombs that move extremely fast and detonate on impact (with a human).

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Extension_Quit_2190 Apr 11, 2026 +1

Infantry general from c&c generals zero hour

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Equivalent-Resort-63 Apr 11, 2026 +1

So it’s just a small shotgun round with fewer pellets and somewhat longer range. Better have full auto on that to hit a fast moving object.

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gradinaruvasile Apr 11, 2026 +3

Full auto with 30 rounds from a handheld assault rifle (mostly AKs) at small moving objects are not a winning combination. There were videos of ukrainians shooting down drones with this kind of ammo. They shot semi auto.

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[deleted] Apr 11, 2026 -5

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unematti Apr 11, 2026 +15

Wait what? Just change to rubber removed the sound so much?

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Petaranax Apr 11, 2026 +7

Its bullshit statement as you can tell, at most it can reduce 1-2db of noise which not even noticeable difference to majority of people, even with the change of pitch to lower frequencies.

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unematti Apr 11, 2026 +1

So maybe it's just more durable under fire

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DTRite Apr 11, 2026 +2

Or just under flight. My drone's props have been replaced a few times...I'm not a great pilot, it's an old ones before they got better.

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Rare_Appointment_604 Apr 11, 2026 +1

Have you EVER seen a FPV drone in real life?

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xobot Apr 11, 2026 +1

Dude I have a 1950s fan from my grandpa. With rubber fins. Google "vintage fan rubber fins" for picture. It sounds just like your regular fan, the fin material doesn't grant you any sound deadening.

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Typingdude3 Apr 11, 2026 +1

Some of these drones have heat sensing cameras so they can attack at night. Can’t shoot at a drone in the dark.

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Admiral_Dildozer Apr 11, 2026 +1

I’m not saying all troops on the frontline in Ukraine have night vision. But if anyone is going to have or need night vision it’s the troops on the frontline in Ukraine. Men on the ground often see and hear the drones long before they strike. The issue is killing the drone before it flys into your formation at 70mph and explodes.

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xX609s-hartXx Apr 11, 2026

Oh shit, I hear a drone! Let me just change magazines here... rick-click-cl-BAMM!

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rapzeh Apr 11, 2026 +3

I think it makes sense for isr drones first of all, where you aren't even attacked. Also, at this point it probably makes more sense to default on this ammonand switch to normal ammo in case you encounter enemy infantry, whis is less of a risk and also allows more reaction time

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BasicMatter7339 Apr 11, 2026 -5

Ak-47s haven't been manufactured since the 50s lmao

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Admiral_Dildozer Apr 11, 2026 +1

Russia (obviously) but also Bulgaria, Poland, and Serbia have domestic arms companies that produce AK’s. Even the U.S. has a domestic producer. Granted they’re not exactly the same 50’s models but the changes are minor and it’s still pretty much the same AK. There are several examples of gun designs 100 years old or older currently being used by modern militaries. A good gun is a good gun.

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BasicMatter7339 Apr 11, 2026 +1

They don't produce '47s though Serbians produce the Zastava M70, Bulgaria the AR-M1, Poland makes the FB beryl. Sure, all AK's but none of them are '47s

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Admiral_Dildozer Apr 11, 2026 +1

Yeah you’re right. They’re not 47’s and I didn’t really focus on that part. They’re all modern or country specific variants.

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BasicMatter7339 Apr 11, 2026 +1

Yeah thats my exact gripe with the headline because there are no ak-47 manufacturers anywhere anymore as their production stopped in 1959. Not even north korea makes their ak-47 clones anymore.

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zloykrolik Apr 11, 2026

> 100 years old or older currently being used by modern militaries. M2 machine gun has entered the conversation.

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A-Real-Boomhauer Apr 11, 2026

Do they still make the stock models

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Specialist-Many-8432 Apr 11, 2026

AA ak47 rounds before gta6. Smh

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Inevitable_Butthole Apr 11, 2026 -2

Why do we even have AI if it cant do aim assist irl

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SRM_Thornfoot Apr 11, 2026 -1

Over here we call that birdshot.

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crazedizzled Apr 11, 2026 -1

I don't understand why they don't just have undermounted shotguns. Or just carry a shotgun. Assuming you saw it coming, shooting a drone with a shotgun should be ezpz.

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Hondamousse Apr 11, 2026 +3

Because carrying a second long gun and rounds for it is expensive, and heavy, and shotguns have a more limited magazine capacity. Underbarrel shotguns have awful range, and even more limited capacity. Drones are way faster than you’re imagining in this scenario. Having 30 rounds to try and take one down at a better range and higher muzzle velocity is ultimately why this is the better option.

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crazedizzled Apr 11, 2026

Hitting a small fast moving target with a rifle bullet is infinitely more difficult than with a shotgun. It's not like shotguns in war are weird. The US used the shit out of shotguns in Iraq. I'd for damn sure rather carry around an extra 10 pounds if it gave me some amount of hope against a drone.

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Hondamousse Apr 11, 2026 +1

Right, which is why these particular rounds are similar to shotgun pellets, just… “different”. There are multiple projectiles. The 556 versions of these have a muzzle velocity of around 3000 fps, shotguns are around 1200 with birdshot.

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Suspicious_Safe7647 Apr 11, 2026 -13

Oh yes I read about this. The Anti-Robot Bullets. They are called EDPs \[Electronically Disruptive Projectiles \]. I don't known how they work, but I do think its interesting were developing ammunition designed for electronics. This is probably gonna come off dark humor as hell but here If people cant even shoot each other and just start shooting each other's toys doesn't that mean war is literally pointless? Ironically there is more respect in blood spilt and lost then whatever this is turning into. And as usual it will likely be used against some country that can hardly even hold a house together.

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Russia's AK-47 manufacturer is making special bullets for its assault rifles to knock drones out of the sky

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