/r/WorldNews Discussion Thread: US and Israel launch attack on Iran; Iran retaliates (Thread #13)

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This ceasefire puts the us in a much stronger position then iran long term. Assuming it holds, (which is possible) then we essentially return to the status quo with a few key changes. For one iran has been leveled and isnt in any position to fund proxies for atleast a few years while they rebuild their leadership and economy. Second, the gulf states and isreal have all be shoved closer with each other and the united states. They arent going to trust other security partners or go for other suppliers after this, making it much harder for russia china or Europe to gain a foothold against america. Leaving global oil firmly under american control Meanwhile if it doesnt hold long term, we end up with a pause that essentially resets the iranian hold on the global economy. There cant be much actual oil flowing through the strait due to stalled production, but this lets stockpiles get emptied and positions fortified. While also allowing for additional resources to be surged in. Closing the strait was irans only real leverage, by giving it up here they have essentially proven trump right and that america could pummel them before they could do enough damage to really make america notice.

So Iran won the war.

Israeli media is reporting that the ceasefire will begin once Iran opens the Strait of Hormuz. Sounds kinda weird, no?

So, when will the people of Iran get their Internet back?

Have we had any indication from Iran's side that negotiations are actually progressing? Or was this just a manufactured offramp by Trump and Pakistan? Is Iran going to pop up in an hour and say they didn't talk to anyone about anything?

Lots of people in here confusing a proposal with a done deal. That's not how it works. And the US has their own demands. The final deal will likely look nothing like the proposed points.

He’s a d*****. A monster and mad man, yes. Also a d*****.

This whole war seems like the main objective is to destroy the American empire honestly. Go in there, make a shit storm then concede to irans terms of which are to make 2 million dollars a ship! That will give them total control of the Middle East, the petrodollar will fall and once that happens USD will be devalued and there goes the stock market. Something really fishy is going on here and more people need to WAKE UP

Somebody should start a timelapse of Hurmuz traffic in the next 24 hours

Some people clearly didn't see the "contingent on" part. So no Iran hasn't agreed to shit

Flightradar24 still shows usaf aircraft flying across the Mediterranean towards Iran. There's a C5 flying east due north of Cyprus and two KC135 in a holding pattern near Israel.

Did the B52 Bombers flying from the UK turn around?

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Taco Tuesday is back!

>Islamic Regime's "National TV": "Humiliating retreat of Trump" >"Trump agreed Iran's terms on ending the war" 

What’s the over/under on Israel immediately violating this cease fire?

So, now there's apparently a trilateral ceasefire, what has this war actually achieved? The Iranian regime is still in place. They have a younger leader. They still have their nuclear material. Their people are still oppressed by the regime. They've had sanction relief and now know they can project regional force and shut down the Strait of Hormuz in the future if anyone so much as looks at them the wrong way. The rest of us have higher oil prices?

> Iran has accepted Pakistan’s two-week ceasefire proposal following intensive diplomatic efforts and a last-minute intervention by China - NYT

Iran is about to embarrass trump lol

In this situation I’m glad for the TACO because it really seems like Trump is hellbent on using nuclear weapons and that cannot be allowed

I've never been so happy for TACO Tuesday

Trump TACO’d but I don’t think the Iranians are going to bother with it. Why would you trust him? Last time you were engaging in talks the US and Israel launched a surprise attack and killed your leadership. The biggest signal is that he’s f****** desperate and blustering trying to get out of the mess he made. If I were the Iranians I’d stop launching missiles but keep the straights closed cause you have him by the balls while you do.

Honk if Trump is using the war for market manipulation

Notice he never specified *which* civilization is going to be destroyed. Everyone can breathe a sigh of relief until the mushroom clouds rise over Greenland.

Guarantee that Iran will not be attacked again Permanent end to the war, not just a ceasefire End to Israeli strikes in Lebanon Lifting of all US sanctions on Iran End to all regional fighting against Iranian allies Iran would reopen the Strait of Hormuz Iran would impose a $2m fee per ship transiting Hormuz Iran would split these fees with Oman Iran would establish rules for safe passage through Hormuz Iran would use Hormuz fees for reconstruction instead of reparations And you’re telling me Israel agrees to this?

>White House official says Israel has also agreed to temporary ceasefire, CNN reports >—Haaretz

Pepple are negative that theres a cease fire sigh. What have we become.

If Iran has indeed agreed to open the Strait then Trump did a fantastic job... ...at temporarily fixing a clusterfuck that he himself got the entire world into.

I look forward to Iran responding that they agreed to nothing and that nothing has changed and the Strait remains closed unless you pony up $2M to pass GO.

>Iran accepted Pakistan’s two-week cease-fire proposal following frantic diplomatic efforts by Pakistan and last-minute intervention by China, a key ally, asking Iran to show flexibility and defuse tensions, and amid growing concerns about the economic devastation from damages to critical infrastructure, according to three Iranian officials. >**They said the cease-fire was approved by the new supreme leader, Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei.** >—NYT

"Goodnight Iran.  Sleep well.  I'll probably kill you in two weeks."  --Dread Pirate Trump

>NYT: Iran accepted Pakistan’s two-week crease-fire proposal following frantic diplomatic efforts by Pakistan and last-minute intervention by China, a key ally, asking Iran to show flexibility and defuse tensions, and amid growing concerns about the economic devastation from damages to critical infrastructure, according to three Iranian officials. They said the cease-fire was approved by the new supreme leader, Ayatollah Mojtaba Khamenei. Well that's it then. Now let's see what Israel does.

Fox News pundits just saying crazy ignorant and patently false shit to fit this narrative trump is a good president. Holy f***

Wow I was convince that Trump will carry though with the strikes. Let’s hope this leads to move positive things down the road

The is the worst Bridge and Power Plant day EVER! /s

Open the Strait, you know, like it was before I attacked you

CNN: Israel has also agreed to temporary ceasefire, White House official says Iran State TV: "Accepting Iran's conditions to end the war, Trump announced a two-week ceasefire." Trump: Obviously TACO'd Thus ends this conflict. The W**** Moose should be open soon, I guess.

I bet Donnie is praying to Paula White that Iran reopens Hormuz. Even Donnie likes Taco Tuesday.

He deserves a second fifa peace prize, the great peacemaker of our time.

So did Iran get the know they agreed to a ceasefire because the barrage of ballistic missiles at Israel says otherwise.

Are posts on Twitter binding now? 

Taco word salad of the day: # "Subject to"

US President Donald Trump to suspend 'bombing and attack of Iran' for 2 weeks decision is subject to Iran agreeing to open the Strait of Hormuz.-reuters-

Every f****** week it’s the same shit. Extend. Threats. Extend. Threat. Extend. Threat. What. A. B****. No one cares Donnie.

Will no one think of the poor marines bobbing along in the ocean, not knowing where to or why ಡ ͜ ʖ ಡ

I'm betting by Thursday, bombs will fly again.

>Trump said that the agreement was “subject to the Islamic Republic of Iran agreeing to the COMPLETE, IMMEDIATE, and SAFE OPENING of the Strait of Hormuz,” meaning that Iran has not yet agreed to conditions. >In the past, Iran has insisted it would only open the Strait in return for a complete peace agreement, guaranteeing no further attacks by the U.S. and Israel, but not a cease-fire. >—NYT