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/r/WorldNews Live Thread: Russian Invasion of Ukraine Day 1502, Part 1 (Thread #1649)

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WorldNewsMods 4 days ago +1
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unpancho 4 days ago +32
New thread from ChrisO\_Wiki 1/ Russia's blocking of Telegram is having a devastating effect on the volunteer communities that support the Russian army in Ukraine. A Russian warblogger posts a despairing account of how the 'humanitarian aid' system has all but collapsed as a result. ⬇️ [https://bsky.app/profile/chriso-wiki.bsky.social/post/3mitw65o5fs2s](https://bsky.app/profile/chriso-wiki.bsky.social/post/3mitw65o5fs2s) [https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2041224933817164047.html](https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/2041224933817164047.html)
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Remarkable_Beach_545 4 days ago +17
"Humanitarian aid" to assault troops on the front line of an occupying and invading force my ass, bye bye telegram
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Shockkdiamondss 4 days ago +7
oppression & control > functional military
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TurbulentRadish8113 4 days ago +33
> The 'Minudobreniya' chemical plant in Rossosh, Voronezh region, has been attacked. The OSINT community CyberBoroshno confirms that the main fertilizer storage facility is on fire, posing a risk of a massive explosion. https://bsky.app/profile/wartranslated.bsky.social/post/3miu7n6jrcc2v
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Osiris32 4 days ago +5
Look out for the dark red smoke!
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trippknightly 4 days ago +4
Oh c’mon… fertilizer exploding? How big could that be? /s
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rrRunkgullet 4 days ago +10
We have Cobasna at home.
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nerphurp 4 days ago +41
These pricks have been mocking Ukrainian deaths and sucking Russia's d*** since day one: >Investigation: Unmasking the anonymous hosts of 'Russians With Attitude,' a pro-war podcast popular with US far right... > [Kyiv Independent](https://kyivindependent.com/exclusive-investigation-reveals-hosts-of-us-popular-far-right-podcast/) Big article, Illia Ponomarenko's summary nails it: > >One is a pampered mama’s boy who has lived his entire life in Germany and, despite his likely Jewish background, tries hard to cosplay a “white Russian nationalist” complete with Nazi symbols and salutes. > >The other is a socially awkward loser, ashamed of his own Turkic roots, who can barely talk to people in real life but enthusiastically spews Russian racist slurs anonymously online. Long timers will know who they are -- Russia Stronk shills. They're actually incels, who knew.
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sublime_cheese 4 days ago +6
The article referenced far-right intellectuals. I spat out my drink and laughed out loud.
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NecessaryEcho2615 4 days ago +9
ah so like sergey taboritsky
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TurbulentRadish8113 4 days ago +26
First satellite images I've seen of Novorossiysk port after last night. Too blurry to confirm level of damage though. > Satellite images confirm damage to the Sheskharis oil terminal in Novorossiysk, showing impacts on berths and critical oil loading infrastructure. The site is one of Russia’s largest and most strategic export hubs. https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.com/post/3mitz7r2i3k2v
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findingmike 3 days ago +2
>The site is one of Russia’s largest and most strategic export hubs. Not anymore
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neonpurplestar 4 days ago +41
this article is a few days old, but I still want to share it: >Kremlin Hotline: Hungary colluded with Russia to delist sanctioned oligarchs, companies and banks [https://vsquare.org/kremlin-hotline-hungary-colluded-with-russia-to-delist-sanctioned-oligarchs-companies-and-banks/](https://vsquare.org/kremlin-hotline-hungary-colluded-with-russia-to-delist-sanctioned-oligarchs-companies-and-banks/)
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rrRunkgullet 4 days ago +9
Still he dosn't understand that russi a maintains a list of the political layer in hungar y and that lavro v laughted after he disconnected that call.
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errorsniper 4 days ago +23
So in laymens terms Iv heard since starlink was cut off russia has been reeling and Ukraine is making very real gains and keeping them. How "much" did they retake and is the momentum still going or has it stalled? I guess im just lost for how well the war is going as far as the public can tell.
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trippknightly 4 days ago +2
So it’s losing Starlink that did it?
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errorsniper 4 days ago +4
Being sent back to the 60's in modern war with no backups will make it a lot harder.
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canspop 4 days ago +29
A recent figure. [https://kyivindependent.com/syrsky-visits-hotspot-of-clashes-with-russians-in-contested-corner-of-dnipropetrovsk-oblast/](https://kyivindependent.com/syrsky-visits-hotspot-of-clashes-with-russians-in-contested-corner-of-dnipropetrovsk-oblast/) > "In the course of this operation we have renewed control over 480 square kilometers of territory, eight municipalities in Dnipropetrovsk Oblast and four in Zaporizhzhya Oblast," Syrsky wrote.
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wakamakaphone 4 days ago +16
You can check on deepstate for yourself to tell how much. Not much, honestly - and for a good reason, offensives are extremely costly and Ukraine is not in a position to waste servicemen lives and equipment. I dont think there is a serious plan to push out the Russians by force unless their military just completely collpses.
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hornswoggled111 4 days ago +5
I agree. I think the main reason Ukraine would have to retake limited territory at high risk is to embarrass/force Russian commanders to throw lots of meat in to be ground up. My hope is that Russia will implode and their troops will just abandon ship.
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neonpurplestar 4 days ago +57
Viktor Orbán's false flag is just lazy and desperate: >Serbian intelligence chief says Ukraine not involved in explosives plot [https://www.politico.eu/article/serbia-duro-jovanic-ukraine-explosives-pipeline-hungary-election/](https://www.politico.eu/article/serbia-duro-jovanic-ukraine-explosives-pipeline-hungary-election/) >Viktor Orban ‘staged gas pipeline plot to revive flagging campaign’ [https://archive.is/nGRTf](https://archive.is/nGRTf)
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Electrical-Lab-9593 4 days ago +37
this tells me even the Serbian leaders thinks he is done and can't be bothered with the lie.
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Playful_Alela 4 days ago +17
I think people are underestimating how much gerrymandering is going to affect this election. Hungary really needs to mobilize anyone who doesn't like Orban in this election or Orban can still narrowly capture a majority just based on how he's manipulated the voting system
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honoratus_hi 4 days ago +10
That's the scary part. How easily they can still manipulate a sizeable chunk of the population, while they have been robbing them blind for almost 2 decades.
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anachronistic_circus 4 days ago +26
Orban is a cornered dog, lashing out and trying everything to close the polling gap. The less attention he gets in news in general the better. Don't know where I've seen Zelensky's face more, on Ukrainian govt news n Fidesz election posters in Budapest
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socialistrob 4 days ago +31
I can't express how happy it would make me to see Orban lose and lose badly. The problem though is there's just so much open corruption, direct vote buying and bad faith acting that I'm not actually sure the election will be free and fair. I hope it's a lesson to other countries that once you go in on pro Russian right wing populism it can be hard to walk back and the economic consequences are dire. Hungarians are significantly poorer because of Orban.
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TurbulentRadish8113 4 days ago +44
> 🧵 2/6 — Apparently one heavily up-armoured Leopard 1A5 withstood the impact of 52 (!) FPV drones over the course of a full day this February, with all crew members surviving the Russian attack. Another interesting fact was shared about upgrading the Leopard 1A5s. I've heard plenty of these stories. https://bsky.app/profile/deaidua.org/post/3mitluuibac2c
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OrangeBird077 4 days ago +17
The Lancets are the real test if they’re looking to test the armor against drones.
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iwakan 4 days ago +15
Perfect is the enemy of good
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TurbulentRadish8113 4 days ago +14
Absolutely. This just shows how more expensive platforms like the Lancet still have a role. It's why I think Russia's loss of armour dominance is so important. If they'd used BMPs/BTRs for rotations the whole time, rather than switching to bikes and Ladas, Ukraine would have had to use more expensive drones and would have inflicted fewer casualties.
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Aedeus 4 days ago +8
BMP's and BTR's aren't nearly as armored as you think. You're really only protected from small arms fire, and in some cases even that is tenuous.
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TurbulentRadish8113 4 days ago +7
Sure, they're less well armoured than certain western IFVs, but I've seen them shrug off multiple drone hits too. I don't have the exact statistics of e.g. "casualties per 100 drones used", I'm only asserting that I think casualties are lower on average among those moving around in a BMP compared with the same movements being done with a Lada Niva. My opinion could change on this btw. It can also be situational; Ukrainian soldiers have said that sometimes pickup trucks are better when you want speed and ability to hide. But so long as there are any situations where a BMP or Bradley is safer, then having more armour should save lives IMO.
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Aedeus 4 days ago +6
I'd say they'd be more than the bikes and ladas considering they were cramming loads of guys into them.
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TurbulentRadish8113 4 days ago +7
Yeah, I'd argue that's a shortage of armour issue. When they had plenty, it was 6-7 per BMP. As they ran low, they piled people on. Or even piled 20 in/on the even worse MT-LB. Then they switched to mostly bikes and Ladas. I am pretty sure there are lots of situations where proper BMP use would mean lower casualties. Ladas might be better than 20 per MT-LB on average. I'm not saying IFVs are always better, just that there are situations where they save lives and having more available is better for those situations.
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Remarkable_Beach_545 4 days ago +3
Yeah i remember the videos from back when it seemed like they were using vatniks as extra armor for their vehicles
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Electrical-Lab-9593 4 days ago +8
yep, people normally see the final hit that took it out, not the ones the tanks shrug off, if they can get people in and out they are useful still. armor still better than a car or bike, and for every tank you have that means 20 drones striking it while maybe a car gets through.
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TurbulentRadish8113 4 days ago +17
It seems like "but drones" doesn't guarantee tanks are useless - imagine how many Ukrainian casualties were avoided here. IMO what matters is how often it takes one drone vs e.g. 52. A Ukrainian marine I listened to in early 2025 said that most russian armour was stopped with mines or ATGMs. Drones and artillery did the most finishing off. Of course, sometimes one drone blows up a tank. My impression is that armour still saves a lot of lives though.
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echo_of_pompeii 4 days ago +16
In the future there will be three additional levels of protection. 1. something like skyranger attached to most units. Radar + 4km range 2. an AI turret on most vehicles for short ranges 3. APS optimized for anti drone defense. Limited shots, but very high hit probability. Will be a different game then. Maybe we end up with drones firing actual anti tank misses instead of the direct impact drone in use now to counter this again.
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Electrical-Lab-9593 4 days ago +9
yeah the problem with any of these automated turrets is making them rugged enough to deployed for weeks.
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TurbulentRadish8113 4 days ago +33
> Sweden will supply Ukraine with modern Tridon Mk2 air defense systems. According to Ukraine's Ministry of Defense, the new systems are expected to strengthen Ukraine’s air defenses in countering strike drones and other aerial threats. I read elsewhere that it's €400m of a €1.2bn aid package. Looks like a truck mounted AA gun. Anyone know details? https://bsky.app/profile/antongerashchenko.bsky.social/post/3mitclddupc25
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SternFlamingo 4 days ago +11
It is, as you said, a truck-mounted [40mm AA gun](https://www.baesystems.com/en-us/product/tridon-mk2). The manufacturer, BAE, identifies it as a full-spectrum defender against anything from drones to cruise missiles within its stated range of 12km, presumably based on which of the modular sensors and fire control are used.
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TurbulentRadish8113 4 days ago +37
> Ukraine surpassed Russia in the number of drone attacks for the first time during the war, ABC News reported. The shift reflects growing impact of Kyiv’s long-term investment in drone and missile capabilities, altering the balance of strikes. My read is; maybe this is true but we don't know for sure. It's a good sign though that we can't tell for sure. It means the russians don't have a clear objective superiority, which was the case when Shaheds started arriving. https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.com/post/3mitmrqnzlk2v
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neonpurplestar 4 days ago +37
Original article in german: >Viktor Orbán's false flag operation surrounding a supposed bomb planted on a gas pipeline near the Hungarian-Serbian border appears to have been fully coordinated with the Russian intelligence services as part of an effort to help Orbán win the upcoming Hungarian elections. This is evident from the way Russian-controlled media assets are now flagging and circulating the story. It demonstrates both Orbán's increasing desperation in the final days before the vote, and the manner in which his operations are fully integrated with the Kremlin. [https://bsky.app/profile/robertscotthorton.bsky.social/post/3mitmnbep4k2l](https://bsky.app/profile/robertscotthorton.bsky.social/post/3mitmnbep4k2l)
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TurbulentRadish8113 4 days ago +25
To be annoying: Russian media will try to exploit anything that happens. The fact they're exploiting this particular pro-Orban false flag isn't much proof of their involvement IMO. One of the most insane things I've ever seen is related to the Putinist apartment bombings when he was coming to power. In the russian duma, one of Putin's pet politicians talked about how horrible the Volgodonsk apartment bombing was. He screwed up. The Volgodonsk apartment bombing was 3 days *after* he announced it, he got his dates wrong.
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TurbulentRadish8113 4 days ago +29
> Large-scale fires visible on FIRMS data in Novorossiysk. Ukrainian drones struck the Novorossiysk oil terminal, disabling 6 of 7 loading berths and hitting pipeline and metering nodes, triggering major fires. First damage evaluations are very promising. IMO what matters is export volumes. Nothing else comes close in importance, because export volumes = more money for Russia. And we won't know the results for a while. https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.com/post/3mitndwhmbs2v
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hornswoggled111 4 days ago +13
Extra bonus. Shutting down their capacity also causes permanent damage to capacity. It damages the actual flow from the oil well if they can't maintain the flow.
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TurbulentRadish8113 4 days ago +28
Ukrainian soldier Bakhmutskyi Demon has a long post on recruitment issues. According to my ML translate, it ends with him saying he thinks there will be helpful decisions. The whole thing is worth reading to get an idea of Ukraine's problems. First paras of his post; > There will be no clear service terms without increased mobilization and changes in reservations, says Reshetilova. > Look at the current situation. There can't be service terms without replenishment, but people don't want to join the army. > People don't want to join the army because they fear uncertainty, death, and the lack of service terms. If you are in the West, the best we can do is send more aid to Ukraine, especially certain capabilities. It saves lives. https://t . me/bahshiddemon/3258
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Nurnmurmer 4 days ago +35
**The estimated total russian war losses from 24.02.22 to 06.04.26 inclusive are as follows****:** * personnel - approximately 1 304 490 (+940); * tanks ‒ 11 841 (+2); * armored fighting vehicles ‒ 24 360 **(+10)**; * special equipment ‒ 4 112; * vehicles and fuel tanks ‒ 87 614 (+259). * artillery systems ‒ 39 497 (+58); * MLRS ‒ 1 719; * air defense assets ‒ 1 338. * aircraft ‒ 435; * helicopters ‒ 350; * UAVs (operational-tactical level) ‒ 221 396 (+1 953); * cruise missiles ‒ 4 517. * warships and boats ‒ 33; * submarines ‒ 2. Source [https://mod.gov.ua/en/news/total-russian-combat-losses-in-ukraine-as-of-april-6-2026](https://mod.gov.ua/en/news/total-russian-combat-losses-in-ukraine-as-of-april-6-2026) Russia grows weaker every day. Slava Ukraini!
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helm 4 days ago +7
Quite a lot of land hardware there.
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neonpurplestar 4 days ago +38
>Russian Railways is going to auction off the the Moscow Towers skyscrapers it bought in 2024 as it's HQ to raise raise money. It bought it for 170 billion rubles in 2024 and now it wants 280,8 billion rubles as a starting price. I have seen it valued at 227-245 billion rubles. [https://bsky.app/profile/delfoo.bsky.social/post/3mitcqxqegk2i](https://bsky.app/profile/delfoo.bsky.social/post/3mitcqxqegk2i)
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DeeDee_Z 4 days ago +3
Spray-paint it gold and Trump will buy it!
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iwakan 4 days ago +11
Moving HQ for thousands of workers only to revert the move in less than two years have got to be an enormous waste of money for them. Even if they get their desired price I doubt it was a profitable project all things considered.
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findingmike 4 days ago +6
But they get that money now, so they're desperate to keep the company afloat. Which means they'll probably sell at a deep d*******.
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neonpurplestar 4 days ago +26
Economics article about yesterday's drone attack at novorossiysk port: >Russia's largest oil terminal on the Black Sea caught fire following a drone attack, following attacks on Baltic ports. 3rd edit: it finally worked [https://archive.is/evEmm](https://archive.is/evEmm)
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OldRepresentative578 4 days ago +3
> Not Found (yet?)
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SternFlamingo 4 days ago +7
link is broken, can you please re-link?
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pytagoras 4 days ago +50
> On the night of April 6, the 🇺🇦Ukrainian Unmanned Systems Forces struck the 🇷🇺Project 11356R frigate "Admiral Makarov" (or "Admiral Essen") in the port of Novorossiysk using FP-1/FP-2 strike drones. https://bsky.app/profile/militarynewsua.bsky.social/post/3mit4qeaboc2e
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Morat20 4 days ago +29
One hopes that the Ukrainians take a deep pride in how much of the Russian Navy it's sent to the bottom without even having a Navy of it's own.
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Electrical-Lab-9593 4 days ago +14
they have a Navy, I know what you mean, they don't have large combat surface ships. they have a navy in the same way that having 1000s of Reaper UAVs is still an airforce, just with less mustaches
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jszj0 4 days ago +8
A million percent, they have been beyond outstanding.
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jeremy9931 4 days ago +13
They’re gonna need to hit that a few more times for good measure.
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McG0788 4 days ago +16
With eroded air defenses I look forward to hearing about the new drone swarm targets every few days. F*** Putin
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c0xb0x 4 days ago +37
Kherson. A son screaming out his grief at the body of his murdered mother. If people cared, this could be stopped. But people don't care, so their governments don't care, so the military aid that could have been sent over the past 4 years wasn't sent, so Russia wasn't forced to stop the war, and so this happened, along with many thousands of tragedies like this. NSFL [https://x.com/United24media/status/2041095007831015614](https://x.com/United24media/status/2041095007831015614)
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Think_Discipline_90 4 days ago +42
People do care, it’s why we’re here. It’s a tragic story but don’t throw those accusations around.
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OldRepresentative578 4 days ago +37
> Russia launches 141 drones across Ukraine, kills mother and toddler in Odesa                 > A large overnight drone attack struck the country’s north, south, and east—cutting power to 10,000 in Chernihiv Oblast and killing three in Odesa, including a two-and-a-half-year-old girl.                  https://euromaidanpress.com/2026/04/06/russia-launches-141-drones-across-ukraine-kills-mother-and-toddler-in-odesa/
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LivingLegend69 4 days ago +49
Good job at destroying yet another oil export terminal! Who cares about the price of oil if Russia can no longer export significant volumes. Slava Ukraini!
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UNITED24Media 5 days ago +51
Ukrainian drone units struck Russian mobile launch platforms used for Shahed-type drones at the Donetsk airport, targeting the systems during launch preparations. According to Ukraine’s 1st Separate Center of Unmanned Systems, the operation was carried out using FP-2 strike drones developed by the Ukrainian company Fire Point. The unit reported that the drones penetrated the airport area and hit mobile launch vehicles positioned on or near the runway. [Read more](https://united24media.com/latest-news/ukraine-hits-russian-shahed-launchers-before-takeoff-at-donetsk-airport-17620)
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Jay_CD 5 days ago +66
Russia has lost 940 soldiers killed and wounded over the past day, bringing its total number of personnel losses to 1,304,490. **Source:** [Russian losses over past day: 940 soldiers killed and wounded | Ukrainska Pravda](https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2026/04/06/8028887/) **Details:** The total combat losses of the Russian forces between 24 February 2022 and 6 April 2026 are estimated to be as follows \[figures in parentheses represent the latest losses – ed.\]: * approximately 1,304,490 **(+940)** military personnel * 11,841 **(+2)** tanks * 24,360 **(+10)** armoured combat vehicles * 39,497 **(+58)** artillery systems * 1,719 (+0) multiple-launch rocket systems * 1,338 (+0) air defence systems * 435 (+0) fixed-wing aircraft * 350 (+0) helicopters * 221,396 **(+1,953)** operational-tactical UAVs * 4,517 (+0) cruise missiles * 33 (+0) ships/boats * 2 (+0) submarines * 87,614 **(+259)** vehicles and fuel tankers * 4,112 (+0) special vehicles and other equipment. The information is being confirmed.
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hornswoggled111 5 days ago +25
Every time it's less than 1,000 casualties I feel a little sad. But then I think maybe the Ukrainians had a much easier day as well.
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Specialist-Many-8432 5 days ago +26
Holy f*** it’s been that long?!
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jeremy9931 5 days ago +16
And it’ll continue for many more, until the Russians f*** back off to russia.
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GetInTheKitchen1 4 days ago +5
in a sad way, this is why a longer war is better for Ukraine, even with the sacrifices because a short war meant that Russia saves it's soviet equipment, soldiers, special troops, and regroups to attack again in 5 years. But because the war has gone on for 4 years, Russia has: almost no soviet tanks/equipment left, ran through their VDV, Wagner groups (and mr prighozin tried a coup/got assassinated), and also lost oil sales to Europe AND lost 2 neutral countries to NATO. You can't really lose more than that. It will take 2-3 generations before the Russians try invading Ukraine again (and by that time, I hope Ukraine/NATO are ready).
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Morat20 4 days ago +10
Economics. It's what's always constrained a country's ability to make war. Russia has a finite supply of manpower, money, and resources. The first thing the world did was clamp down on Russia's access to foreign markets for 'money' and 'resources'. Ukraine's blowing up of refineries, oil pipelines, that sort of thing are aimed at diminishing Russia's ability to provide resources for both the war and for sale to raise hard currency needed for the resources it can't source domestically (whether raw materials or finished products). Eventually one of them will give. Probably resources, which is why Ukraine is targeting them. The fewer resources you have, the more constrained your logistics, the fewer options you have in the field. Fewer options leads to fewer victories and higher casualties. It's pretty clear they're struggling badly to properly supply the 700k or so on the front, even as their economy has clearly shifted to close to 'total war' production. I don't think there's much left in the cupboard, you know? It seems pretty clear Russia ran through the fat, ran through the muscle, and is already cutting into bone, economics wise. But economies, especially total war economies under full governmental control, can take a *long* time to collapse. Ukraine's economy is, of course, under identical strain -- but they've got a lot more support from allies than Russia does, and Ukraine's growing ability to target infrastructure deep into Russia is probably one of the more significant changes in the war. Waging war on someone is a lot easier when you can target their critical military infrastructure (munitions factories, refineries, etc) and they can't target yours.
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anachronistic_circus 4 days ago -3
Ok let’s start with the first few sentences   > Economics.  > It's what's always constrained a country's ability to make war. Russia has a finite supply of manpower, money, and resources Ok, what about Ukrainian economics? Ukrainian manpower?
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GetInTheKitchen1 4 days ago +2
Ukraine HAS to fight to the last man. It's a war for the survival of Ukrainians, a war they have known was coming since 2014. For Russia, they just have to fight until somebody ousts Putin. Nobody wants to fight, they already sent their non-ethnic Russians and lost, they send their prisoners and lost, they sent North Koreans in Kursk (and stopped at the Ukrainian border), now they are conscripting their university students and actual working Russians. At some point they will conscript women and children.
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anachronistic_circus 4 days ago -3
“Fight on to the last man!” Says some random guy from probably thousand of miles away  Interesting take … brave…
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Morat20 4 days ago +2
Literally the second to last paragraph. Try reading? I admittedly didn't get into the difference in total war economies when fighting defensively versus offensively, or the complexity of Russian logistics compared to Ukrainian, but I wasn't writing a *thesis* nor do I care to deal with Russian trolls.
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anachronistic_circus 4 days ago -2
i read it through, for some reason you are making an assumption that Ukraine's economy is under "identical strain". It is not. > I admittedly didn't get into the difference in total war economies when fighting defensively versus offensively, or the complexity of Russian logistics compared to Ukrainian, but I wasn't writing a thesis Interesting how many folks I find on here who are all of a sudden experts on economics, military logistics, military strategy, etc > nor do I care to deal with Russian trolls. Another interesting thing how anyone who tries to have an objective conversation is all of a sudden a "Russian troll". We can switch over to Ukrainian if you'd like. Mozhem Ukrainskoyu, ya vyvchayu pomelanku i zahalom mozhu pidrymaty rozmovu... pohovorymo?
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jeremy9931 4 days ago +12
Well, I mean, Ukraine’s already basically shown their game plan. Kill as many Russian troops as efficiently as possible & expand their long-range strikes to the point that they eventually have freedom to hit every major economic center in Russia at will.
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TheJD 4 days ago +3
Support for the war in Russia is growing more and more unpopular as their recruitment tactics are getting more ruthless. Even in pro-RU sublistnooks they're starting to talk about the need to mobilize citizens to win the war any time soon. And doing that would absolutely tank what support the war has left. Ukraine has been able to successfully strike high value targets throughout western Russia on a weekly basis. At times, in the Moscow Oblast itself. Ukraine is being invaded which means they have no choice but to fight. Russia is voluntarily sending Russians to die in a war they started for very weak reasons. And those reasons seem less and less important as more Russian infrastructure blows up and more Russian citizens are sent off to die in Ukraine. Putin has a chokehold on Russian government but revolution is engrained in Russian blood and he knows it. He can only maintain this war as long as he can maintain support.
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anachronistic_circus 4 days ago +1
> but revolution is engrained in Russian blood and he knows I think you’re greately underestimating the support putin has in Russia 
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TheJD 4 days ago +3
When not supporting gets you put in jail, of course he has high support. But with the recent blocking of various social media platforms and complete internet shut downs in certain oblasts it seems likely the support is cracking.
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anachronistic_circus 4 days ago
\> it seems likely the support is cracking. Based on? "general feeling"? The thing folks need to understand that as a whole, the Russian society either 1. Supports putin and his policies or 2. Even if they don't outright support him, they still don't want things to change as they have been brainwashed over the last 2 decades that "any change" == "chaos and turbulent 90s
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glmory 4 days ago +8
Hard to see any other outcome. Worst case scenario, Ukraine just has to wait for Putin to die. Putin's life expectancy is decades less than the time it would take for Ukraine to fall.
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anachronistic_circus 4 days ago -3
Kind of interested how you see that happening and when you expect him to die, 5 years, ten, fifteen? What makes you think that the next person would be drastically different? > life expectancy is decades less than the time it would take for Ukraine to fall. And what do you define as "Ukraine to fall"? Russian army occupying all of it? What about the economy? Front lines? Civilian infrastructure?
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Jeancey 4 days ago +3
In Putin's Russia, there is no "next person". He has systematically undercut any single successor for fear they will try to oust him. That means when he goes, it'll immediately be infighting and chaos in Moscow, which will likely result in a collapse of the war effort against Ukraine. Any new leader would also likely end the war, which is being perpetrated because of Putin's personal whim and paranoia rather than for any clear strategic objective. A new Russian leader can end the war, lay everything at Putin's feet and withdraw to lick Russia's wounds and try to rebuild. I don't think that it is unreasonable to say this'll end when Putin's life does, I think it's 100% the thing that'll happen.
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anachronistic_circus 4 days ago +1
You’re making lots of assumptions based on what you would like to happen  In reality there is an intricate pyramid of the “hardliners / siloviki” faction behind putin, including young (ish) nationalist idealists like Konstantin Malofeev for example 
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Jeancey 4 days ago +2
That's the entire point.... there's a bunch of them, all equally powerful and ambitious. You really think they'll unite behind a single leader instantly if Putin dies tomorrow? I agree things will be different if a single clear successor emerges before he dies, or if he dies after stepping down due to health or something, but as it stands, if he dies while in active power without pointing to a clear successor it is going to be chaos.
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Zhukov-74 5 days ago +36
We are getting awfully close to surpassing WW1. Ukraine War - 1502 days World War 1 - 1573 days
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Jeancey 4 days ago +3
How long were the Soviets in Afghanistan?
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Necrontyr525 4 days ago +5
25 December 1979 – 15 February 1989, so 3,340 days
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OldRepresentative578 4 days ago +7
Long enough to lose and then see the USSR collapse.
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MorganaHenry 5 days ago +14
For Russia, already done; they invaded Germany August 1914, surrendered late 1917.
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Shockkdiamondss 5 days ago +25
Since 2014.
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iwantboringtimes 5 days ago +44
One of the headlines on the Guardia atm: > Ukraine war briefing: Russian oil facilities burn as Zelenskyy tours Middle East (thumbs up)
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SwedeLostInCanada 5 days ago +64
It keeps getting sadder seeing this daily post. I wish the Ukrainian people can go back to living in piece I visited Ukraine about 8 years ago. There is a memory I have from the trip that keeps coming back. We had been out walking in Kyiv all day. It was cold and snowy. We stopped by this hole-in-the-wall place that sold soup in bread cups. I had a lentil and dill soup. It was one of the best soups I’ve ever had and it was a perfect complement to being outside all day. I often think back and wonder if that place still exist.
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Jeancey 5 days ago +27
Slava Ukraini!
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HokieWx 5 days ago +47
F*** Putin.
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66stang351 5 days ago +19
Great point
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Badgerman97 5 days ago +35
F*** Putin but also F*** Trump.
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SlugFromSnug 5 days ago +23
Two pariah states the world should shun
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WorldNewsMods 5 days ago +23
[Previous post can be found here](/r/worldnews/comments/1sctpdf/rworldnews_live_thread_russian_invasion_of/)
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