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S. Korea expresses 'regret' over Japan’s approval of history textbooks, urges rectification

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S. Korea expresses 'regret' over Japan’s approval of history textbooks, urges rectification
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S. Korea expresses 'regret' over Japan’s approval of history textbooks, urges rectification
South Korea’s Education Ministry on Tuesday denounced a Japanese government panel's approval of high school textbooks containing what Seoul described as "histor

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Hot_Cheesecake_905 Mar 27, 2026 +2429
Why is Japan still revising history after all these decades? From what I heard, Japanese awareness of World War II is quite low or quite skewed?
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Mindless-Cod-9441 Mar 27, 2026 +1970
So you know how Germany had to go through demilitarisation, the Nuremberg trials and all that jazz? Japan was supposed to go through the same thing. Except with the outbreak of the cold war, America (which had sole authority to demilitarise Japan, dismantle imperialist control structures, etc), decided it was better to have an anti-communist ally than a demilitarised japan, and Reversed Course. They reinstated the very war criminals they had tried earlier back into positions of power. The wikipedia articles for “Reverse Course” and “CIA activities in Japan” should shed some light. In short, Imperial Japan never went away. It was dressed up and put on a leash. Reconciliation and reparations never eventuated. And now no one really wants a status quo change. The LDP with imperial roots remain in power. China and South Korea like having the Japan card to play whenever their local political environment gets a bit too hot. Now to your question. As part of the occupation, America set the education curriculum. It painted themselves as saviors, friendly, and there to help japan rebuild. Arguably true. Except that when the occupation ended, they handed the ability to set the education curricula right back into the hands of the imperialists dressed as the LDP. And so you now have Japan’s revisionist history in their textbooks.
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porgy_tirebiter Mar 27, 2026 +1166
There’s one other factor, which is cultural. Germans would like to have swept it under the rug, but the post-war generation didn’t allow it. A fair amount of the 60s counterculture in Germany was forcing their parents and grandparents to come clean, which they didn’t do willingly. That generation of Germans was ashamed of their past, and embraced English counterculture. The Beatles were a big hit in Hamburg before they were in the UK or US. This all culminated in Willy Brandt’s Kniefall von Warschau in 1970. Nothing of the kind happened in Japan. Japanese culture is, if nothing else, nonconfrontational and hierarchical based on age. There is simply no social pathway for younger Japanese to force their parents’ and grandparents’ generation to admit to participation in human rights violations and war crimes, unlike their German contemporaries. They successfully swept it under the carpet. And here we are.
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jdm1891 Mar 27, 2026 +471
The Japanese who would have done something about it were beaten back with violence. There were a lot of riots back then in Japan, mostly from students.
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DesireeThymes Mar 27, 2026 +87
Yes people keep forgetting that Japan did tremendous evil, and those people were allowed to stay and continue being evil, they just dressed it up. Anime has generally done a disservice to the world in this regard, as it has allowed people to look at Japan favorably and ignore the disgusting elements of their history and continued revisionism.
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Newhero2002 Mar 27, 2026 +133
Anime doesn’t really seek to downplay Japan’s ww2 involvement, nor does it seek to glorify Japanese culture. In reality most animes tackle themes such as genocide, racism, fascism, etc. A good chunk of the most famous anime don’t even take place in Japan (ie One Piece with its Brazilian pirate mc, or Attack on Titan, anti nationalism anime with European mcs).
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Ossius Mar 27, 2026 +141
I'll bridge the gap between you and the guy above. Anime is Japan's counter culture pushing back against it's history. Most people's only interaction with Japanese culture is anime. So we think Japanese culture is aligned with anime morals, but it isn't. I think that is what the guy above meant. The people in power in Japan aren't anti nationalist, anti fascist, they need to watch more anime.
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EnciclopedistadeTlon Mar 27, 2026 +31
Is it me or has the *average* anime lost a lot of its counter culture qualities through the years? As someone born in the 80s that has watched a ton of it (both before my time and throughout my life including current stuff) it feels like the *average* anime has become less... pointed? experimental? political? counter culture? original? Let me try to phrase it better. Anime went from a stigmatized niche subculture in the 70s to a huge industry today with likely over a billion watchers worldwide. This ofc has changed it significantly. Mainstreaming, professionalization, massive increase in the volume of content (from around 15 series released each year during the 70s to 250+ in the 2020s, not to speak of manga), much more streamlined manufacture-like production processes, a stronger focus on marketability for many manga/anime, a bigger reliance on adaptations, etc. Whenever this happens to an industry it often comes with a regression to the mean. Profitability often goes from being the highest priority to further being the guiding principle of every aspect of the product. This is reflected in safer character designs and artstyles (meant to appeal to as broad of an audience as possible), defanged plot beats, embracing popular trends even when they might not entirely fit the show, more fan service (and I don't just mean the sexual kind), etc. Remember we are talking about *averages* here though. I'm not saying that the best anime are all from the 70s-90s or something. I don't personally believe that. Since the amount of anime from the 2010-2020s dwarfs the amount of old anime, you're far more likely to find incredible anime nowadays among all the mass-produced bland ones. It's just a matter of numbers. And ofc professionalization also comes with its perks and some shows/studios shine brighter because of it. But in terms of anime being counter culture, it does feel like on *average* that's just less true nowadays than it was in the past century. When I see an industry saturated with escapist wish-fulfillment shows, isekai, moe, ecchi, sakuga and battles for the sake of it, etc, I do think that the average show just deals less with politics, experimentation, prickly themes (and I don't mean easy edgy themes, I mean themes that interrogate the human condition in a way that's related to the IRL, outside, touch-grass real world, be it from a geopolitics angle, from a philosophical angle or just from a deep, human, interpersonal relationships angle). And when there are shows that do deal with politics or regimes or war they often either take vague, non-committed, empty-words stances, or in some cases they straight up spouse regressive views (which would be the opposite of counter culture in Japan considering they've always elected conservative governments). You can kind of see them same phenomenon with JRPGs. In the 90s the average JRPG had a plot of "we are revolutionaries against big evil empires/aristocrats/clergy/gods" with different variations (ecological vibes, focus on interpersonal relationships like friends and/or family, helping people along the road, etc). Nowadays, while there's still some of that a lot of it feels defanged: the evil empire is often a more abstract system or simulation or time loop or supernatural phenomenon the protagonists fight against, and the emperors and gods are thus often replaced with the administrator or architect of the system. The attempts at moral grayness and plot twists mean that when there is an evil empire it's presented as it (or its figurehead) having sympathetic reasons, or sometimes it's not about toppling a regime but about become successful individuals in this new world, or if there's a heroes vs empire plot it often gets abandoned in the third act and any attempt at political musing goes away with it in favor of superpowered battles. Also a good deal of JRPGs nowadays are just not about being counter culture at all: just low-stakes coziness, pseudo harem teasing, isekais, focus on being meta, etc. Anyway, to say something positive about anime in terms of it being counter culture nowadays, at least it has increasingly become more queer positive in the past few years. It went from horrid stereotypes and jokes to just using lesbians and occasionally gay men for titillation to nowadays some shows earnestly attempting to be better regarding queer people in a dialogue-explicit way. It's not like revolutionary, it's more like the level of stuff you would see 15 years ago (around 2010) in western shows and 25 years ago in literary novels from around the world but it's a good thing.
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5mao Mar 27, 2026 +5
You put words to something I've been feeling over the last 15 years. I can't describe what it is, but I grew up being freaked out by animes like .hack// and Ghost in the Shell that made scared at night because I didn't know what to make of the freaky soundtracks and the kind of brutal cyberpunk world they were showing me. It was legitimately nerve wracking turning on the TV on Friday night to see an episode containing semi-body horror in GITS or not knowing what was going on in .hack//. Modern day anime has none of that anymore. Closest I can think of in recent memory to that feeling was maybe the beginning of Attack on Titan, but even the shock of titans eating people is quickly superceded by the sakuga animation and hype soundtracks. I think a problem with modern anime is that they've gotten too good at conveying when a "hype" moment is supposed to happen so that it has become so formulaic you can see when it's going to happen from a mile away. There's also a fantasy-esque feeling surrounding all the action because the human body is animated in such a way that it feels inhuman. It doesn't feel real when people can do a hundred spins per second with giant swords to cut open a titan's back. There might be lore reasons to explain it, but there's a lack of weight to everything when the laws of physics are broken so flippantly. I argue that besides the themes of the stories changing, the visual imagery itself has been sanded down as a whole. The visual stimulus of anime no longer makes us consider what we're looking at as much as it once did. We also no longer get the same kind of moral quandries as we did in the past. Every isekai now is some sort of slavery apologia, the protagonist is only a rebel for as long as it takes to get a harem, the reason why they're a rebel in the first place is because whoever summoned them is cartoonishly evil to justify the MC's edgy behavior, nothing fundamentally changes in the world because the focus is always on the MC as a vessel for wish fulfillment. I think one of the moments when I felt this lack of consequence in the worldbuilding was the end of the new Evangelion films when Shinji resets the world and he just ends up what seems like a version of the modern world. It just felt so weird that somehow the ideal version of the world after all they went through was our modern status quo with boring grey skies and a city with a train moving through it. After being let down by the end and how they resolved it, the more I thought about the ending the more weirded out I felt about the movie's message. It's like they're saying what we have now is the best it will ever be. There's a distinct lack of focus on the future and a sense of wonder for the unknown beyond the status quo that permeates modern anime.
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CoffeeAddixt Mar 27, 2026 +10
Eh, while you have some great countercultural series like Chainsaw Man or Dandadan and of course tons of before-my-time older titles, you also get your occasional GATE: And so the JSDF marched there, which uses the language of otakuisms to talk about how great it would be to go back to Japanese imperialism actually. It’s a mixed bag, and the contents of that bag are largely a product of the society that made it. So there’s gonna be both culture and counterculture.
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Cyberblood Mar 27, 2026 +8
I liked GATE, but dear god the JSDF propaganda was insane. The funniest example to me is when the (fantasy world) prostitute was mentioning to the JSDF doctor that none of "their guys" (JSDF) would spend time with her girls. of course they kinda explain it that is againts orders, as the camera slightly pans over the desk showing a document called "Isekai stds". Now think about this, you are going to tell me that a bunch of military guys will NOT use legal prostitutes? Even if is againts orders? Even with the risk of fantasy isekai stds? (they could just smuggle some condoms), even with fantasy elves / cat girls? And we are talking about the japanese of all people? There is suspension of disbelief, and there is whatever this is 😂
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CoffeeAddixt Mar 27, 2026 +2
Oh yeah, I loved GATE too. For as much criticism I can levy at the show (and there is a lot of criticism there) I cannot deny my love for seeing rocket launchers employed against dragons, paratroopers assaulting walled Roman city gates, and all the other epic military anachronisms of the setting.
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jbrun10120 Mar 27, 2026 +36
Yea Attack on Titan is about >!a tiny island country who forgot their bad past and then break out of their tiny island country and destroy the world for revenge. Who the good guy is does shift away from destruction but they do think about it.!<
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TheSilentFreeway Mar 27, 2026 +36
In my opinion >!the Rumbling is unambiguously depicted as a bad thing: an act of unimaginable evil perpetrated by one emotionally immature young man, and assisted by those who believed in his plan for genocide. The victims of the Rumbling did nothing to deserve it, as the story explicitly tells us that all civilians are victims in the wars waged by their ancestors. Even if they believed Paradis should fall, it was only because this was the only truth they had ever known. Eren even admits that he did it only because he wanted to kill.!<
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wobernein Mar 27, 2026 +9
I would just add that it’s heavily implied that the immature young man isn’t in control because of some timey wimey hijinks much like Fry from futurama being his own grandpa.
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mucus-fettuccine Mar 27, 2026 +13
He isn't in control because he got radicalized. He saw his own mom being eaten, got traumatized, and at that point, became committed to getting revenge, no matter what. Even if that meant becoming the cause of his mom being eaten to ensure he stays on course. It's commentary on radicalization. How terrorists may sacrifice their own family in the name of a greater goal.
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jbrun10120 Mar 27, 2026 +8
Oh 100% agree.
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errorsniper Mar 27, 2026 +2
> Even if they believed Paradis should fall, So as long as this sentiment exsists tho, there will eventually be another war. NGL Iv never been convinced Erin was in the wrong totally. After a certain point it is self defense. If you know for a fact that 20 years from now they will come at you with an army intending on genocide of you and everyone you know, but you have the power to stop them now. Thats the only way to stop the eradication of your people. To all the outsiders yeah you would look like monsters. But again in 20 years they would just be doing it to you. We the viewer have the benefit of omnipotence and understand everything. But from Erins POV they were coming to kill them eventually and the rumbling was the only way to protect those he cares about.
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Secure_Ad1628 Mar 27, 2026 +3
Anime is not a monolith, and while WW2 is "restricted" from being depicted in anime directly, let's not forget that the most popular anime of its time was Space Battleship Yamato that indeed does trivializes imperial imagery and glorifies the "resurrection" of Japan, obviously years later you could have Gundam that has its antagonist faction be a mix of Imperial Japan and Nazi Germany, so it's not like there wasn't a push from both sides of the cultural position on that period. 
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PrawnProwler Mar 27, 2026 +4
Attack on Titan has had a bunch of controversies related to Japanese nationalism, WW2, and it's author's political beliefs lol
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Newhero2002 Mar 27, 2026 +1
There are also Japanese animes that explores issues within Japan (ie JJK, one of the most famous anime’s of all time, which explores things like the criminal justice system) Although Naruto takes place in a fictional setting, it is still based off feudal Japan and it critiques the prevalent honor system and its creation of blood feuds and war crimes. In Devilman crybaby, another famous animes, a girl gets bullied for being half white… Not trying to be rude but I don’t think you guys have ever watched a lot of animes and are making tons of assumptions
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errorsniper Mar 27, 2026 +1
Just like the south after the civil war.
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dxiao Mar 27, 2026 -1
nah we didn’t forget, we just keep getting told by listnookors to let it go because it’s been so long, japan did apologize, stop holding onto a grudge etc etc
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grillpar Mar 27, 2026 +165
There were huge waves of student protests in Japan in the 1960s and 1970s, as much as you’d like to pretend otherwise.
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helm Mar 27, 2026 +97
Yeah, they didn’t manage to significantly change the status quo, however. For example, they did attempt language reform, but it did not take hold, and addressing those in a position of authority/seniority has not changed much since WW2. For example, no variant of the word ”you” is acceptable when talking to superiors or strangers.
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grillpar Mar 27, 2026 +13
I’m just saying this simplifies the narrative greatly. Just like it simplifies the narrative to pretend that Germany doesn’t still have a “far right” problem still, to be diplomatic about it. I just don’t care for oversimplified narratives that hold one culture naturally above another, because they’re always reductive.
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ZuAusHierDa Mar 27, 2026 +4
It also only happened in west Germany. That hasn’t happened in East Germany.
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996forever Mar 27, 2026 +7
Then we should be pragmatic and discuss the final outcome which is also the topic in hand. Do you have any comments about the textbooks in question?
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helm Mar 27, 2026 +1
You are 100% right to be unsatisfied with reductive narratives. But if you look at outcomes, Germany developed an apologetic culture with deference against Russia and Israel as core elements. In contrast, Japan kept some of their superiority complex (I've encountered myself, Buddhists that think that *those with the highest karma will be reborn as Japanese* in combination with various ideas that other Asians are inferior). There were movements to address these issues, but they did not manage to fully open the door towards open reassessments of past actions. Meanwhile, the general attitude towards e.g. South Korea and Taiwan is much more leveled, while pacifistic and anti-nuclear sentiment remains strong in the general public.
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BelligerentGnu Mar 27, 2026 +10
What a neat thing to learn about. Thanks for mentioning the knee fall, I'd never heard of it before.
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LiKaSing_RealEstate Mar 27, 2026 +64
The Japanese are not non-confrontational, just that every time the status quo might be challenged, violence follows. Just check out Inejiro Asanuma or for something recent, the history of Narita Airport. The lack of agency was beaten into the populace.
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porgy_tirebiter Mar 27, 2026 +96
It’s nonconfrontational in many many ways. I don’t see how you can say it’s not. I find it maddening, and I’m used to it after almost two decades. But regarding the topic, it’s hard to imagine a 60s youth counterculture that was explicitly confrontational like it was in Germany. I also speak German. Germans are clear and upfront and unambiguous about pretty much everything.
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lavender_fluff Mar 27, 2026 +16
We Germans are also pretty whiney and don't sit still in discomfort 😆
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Dhiox Mar 27, 2026 +10
I still find it hilarious that you guys killed Walmarts goal of expansion in Germany just because they made their employees smile at people.
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lavender_fluff Mar 27, 2026 +15
I think it was more that Germans really really really hate employees being in the way and talking to us when we didn't seek them out ourselves to ask questions haha
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Dhiox Mar 27, 2026 +13
Consider yourselves lucky, Walmart is a cancer on our society. They destroy local economies, rely on billions of taxpayer dollars to pay workers instead of paying it themselves. The Walton Family which owns the majority of it legit possesses more wealth than half the United States combined.
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Baxtab13 Mar 27, 2026 +2
Ah, perhaps I am German? TBF a considerable portion of my family tree comes from Germany. To the point that my Great Grandfather on my Mom's side was a German immigrant who barely spoke English. He died well before I was born unfortunately. Context: I'm American.
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ZuAusHierDa Mar 27, 2026 +1
Smiling is strictly regulated in Germany!
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MichaCazar Mar 27, 2026 +1
Tbf, a highly competitive market that now expands in the other direction, and being anti-union, as well as breaking some other laws regarding fair competition sure can do a number on the finances of any company.
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vspecialchild Mar 27, 2026 +3
How about the Bavarians?
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bows_and_pearls Mar 27, 2026 +2
It's more nonconfrontational than Western culture but that assholes who like to randomly shove/bump into/ elbow others on the street hella hard certainly aren't nonconfrontational
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balhaegu Mar 28, 2026 +2
Japan was not split into 2 like Germany. Maybe a factor? Korea was split into 2 on the other hand. And waves of protests brought down dictatorship
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AspectSpiritual9143 Mar 27, 2026 +40
\> China and South Korea like having the Japan card to play whenever their local political environment gets a bit too hot. That's making the best of a worse situation. If Japan just owned it up, no sane Chinese or Korean would want them to go back to their imperial root instead.
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feel-T_ornado Mar 27, 2026 +37
Well, America does the same thing at home, they don't provide a lot of information about themselves and the world for most of its kids
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Cold_Complex_4212 Mar 27, 2026 +58
What kind of garbage schools did you people go to? My shitty inner city high school in Texas taught us everything from internment camps to the real horrors of slavery to “big stick policy”.
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Ares6 Mar 27, 2026 +44
It’s the typical “they didn’t pay attention in class” so when they read something they go we didn’t learn that in school. No, you did. You just weren’t listening. 
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feel-T_ornado Mar 27, 2026 -4
Nope, it's a well documented issue, look it up 🤭
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hgs25 Mar 27, 2026 +11
I went to school in Louisiana and paid attention in class as I love history. My school never taught about the US atrocities of the 1900s outside the civil rights movement. I learned about Asian internment camps, the Tulsa Massacre, Indian boarding schools, and CIA ops on my own time. The treatment of native Americans was covered by a general footnote (specifically the Trail of Tears, nothing about the massacres). I learned more about wounded knee from Bioshock of all places than class. And yes, the civil war was taught as a war for states rights and slavery was just tangential to that. On the flip side, we spent nearly an entire segment on the Holocaust in Middle School.
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Danton59 Mar 27, 2026 +5
Also went to some respectable urban schools in Louisiana, can confirm the 'war of northern aggression' was still a thing in the 90s.
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hgs25 Mar 27, 2026 +6
The fact that it’s still taught today is why so many people continue to claim that the civil war was about states rights. It’s what we’ve been taught from a young age.
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Cold_Complex_4212 Mar 27, 2026 +12
Then yes, I’m convinced yall went to terrible schools. My shit schools in Texas of all places had segments on internment camps, the real horror of the Trans-Atlantic slave trade, US “intervention” in Central and South America etc.
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Deditch Mar 27, 2026 +5
Not too dox but what part of texas? Have you given consideration to the local politics of the area you grew up in might be the only reason it was part of your education. You shouldn't be ignorant to the concerted efforts to remove america's atrocities from education
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hgs25 Mar 27, 2026 +6
Yeah, you’d probably find curriculum like mine and the other comment in the small town & rural TX schools where the teachers are all local and tenured. Even shitty school districts in the city have more money (higher property values) and access to resources than low pop / rural districts.
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KotobaAsobitch Mar 27, 2026 -7
Yeah but they taught these things AFTER downplaying atrocities for the first third of your primary education. You weren't learning about native genocide in 2nd grade, it was "oh it's Thanksgiving, we celebrating eating and being friends with the Indians who taught us to farm 🥰🥰". In the rest of public education it's, "yeah we had slaves and were pretty shitty to Chinese people and women, but we're better and different now!" And as you can see from the results of voting, a sizable amount of the country did not grow out of that "America fixed itself, we're so great now" mindset. Like I was absolutely not taught about the CIA purposefully damaging black neighborhoods and literally buying and importing drugs in school. Probably would have radicalized me younger if they did.
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SunStarved_Cassandra Mar 27, 2026 +9
You're upset that 7 year olds aren't learning about genocide?
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Dhiox Mar 27, 2026 +3
Doesn't mean you have to teach them false narratives.
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Cold_Complex_4212 Mar 27, 2026 +2
Again, yes we were. They taught us about thanksgiving as a story and just a story , and then dumbed it down for kids that we did not treat native people well. Did yall not read books about it? Did yall not have parents teach you about the black community and how the country treated us? I swear people make any excuse to be ignorant.
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Dhiox Mar 27, 2026 +1
The issues they don't just make the story age appropriate, they use a wildly inaccurate story. Hell, much of it is still believed by most, like Americans actually believing the Pilgrims were fleeing religious persecution in England. They weren't, they were a cult that was upset they couldn't force their insane cults values on typical English Christians.
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Cold_Complex_4212 Mar 27, 2026
They told the story along with Johnny Appleseed and John Henry. They made it clear that it was just stories. I guess I need to go back and thank my school district for not being the least terrible one out there.
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KotobaAsobitch Mar 27, 2026 -2
Yes, **I** personally did. The point I made was: a sizeable percentage of this country **did not**. If they did, our voting records and engagement wouldn't look they way they do. Reinforcing, "well we weren't the best country historically, but we're all better now!" Is an entirely different message from, "we weren't ever hot shit in anything other than wars and we need to do better, here's how."
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Cold_Complex_4212 Mar 27, 2026 +2
You’re willing to believe people are unaware, instead of aware and malicious. And no, they weren’t teaching “we’re all better now” do you not remember Obama running on “change”? Do you not remember the outrage at the “war on terror”? Because I was in elementary then and it was very clear to me.
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KotobaAsobitch Mar 27, 2026 +2
> You’re willing to believe people are unaware, instead of aware and malicious And you're refusing to acknowledge that the **American education system functions on making the people unaware** through either avoidance or watering down facts to be palatable. I'm not going to try to designate the precentage difference between the two, because it isn't relevant to the conversation and it's a non-arguable fact that *both exist* Obama running for president on change is *not* an education curriculum. I was a junior in high school that election year, we used examples from the election to relate to the curriculum, not the other way around. That's how world events typically go. The real history of the country should not be gate kept by what kind of parents you are born to and if you're a stable/smart enough person to be able and want to learn more.
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Telandria Mar 27, 2026 +52
Yeah, this was my thought. America absolutely, 100% glosses over our own massive history of human rights abuses, both internal and external. Same goes for whitewashing our major historical figures. Thomas Jefferson is a good example — it’s often taught in schools and by popular media (see the musical: *1776*, for one example) that he’s some compassionate proponent of the abolition of slavery who during the revolution had resolved to free his own slaves… except then they fail to mention that we know that didn’t happen, that 99% of them were sold after his death to pay for his estate’s debts. Dude literally brought some of his personal slaves to work at the White House while he was President. Even in cases where it’s *not* ignored completely, like the ‘Trail of Tears’, its dumbed down and sanitized and presented as “Yes, this was bad, but America has learned and we’re better now and this could never happen again”… which given all the shit ICE pulls is clearly untrue.
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feel-T_ornado Mar 27, 2026 +21
"Communism", "Indian" boarding schools, or famous atrocities but no examination of ideologies, you name it, it's an interesting deal, even more so in the disappointing scenario that you mention
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Dauntless_Idiot Mar 28, 2026 +1
My high school is ranked in the bottom 25% of the state and we spent most of the time talking about the bad things the US did. Technological innovations like early non-combustible automobiles, computers, flight or the moon landings are just ignored, but negative technologies like the cotton gin, agent orange or atomic bombs got days of discussion. This was in a Republican county in a Democratic state. I do remember we discovered there were some difference in which bad facts about the US each middle school feeding into the high school had taught before. The biggest issue was perhaps that we only talked about the bad sides of some US Presidents, essentially the ones with well known bad sides. Figures like FDR and Lincoln could do very little wrong besides FDR's court packing.
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DragonsLantern Mar 27, 2026 +1
Sounds like sth italians should have gone through as well. To a certain degree. Oh well. Cold war n such.
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amjhwk Mar 27, 2026 +1
I mean Japan was demilitarized and the top dogs were put down just like in germany, and germany had plenty of high ranking nazis put back into positions of authority. Japan just didnt get split in half and divided between the west and east like Germany was
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EbbonFlow Mar 27, 2026 +236
An [NHK poll](https://news.web.nhk/newsweb/na/nb-5090034529) from last year basically found that, yeah. On a national level only 35% of people polled thought Japan invaded and fought a war of aggression with its neighbours in the rest of Asia during World War 2, 48% weren't sure. Imagine if 48% of Germans asked couldn't comment on if they invaded Poland or France in WW2.
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xin4111 Mar 27, 2026 +83
And the last 16% dont consider it is agressive war
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Idainaru_Yokubo Mar 27, 2026 +176
I remember a Hololive Japanese Idol having a stream with a Hololive Indonesian idol playing the geo guesser game in one the locations they saw a WW2 Imperial Japan bunker in Indonesia the Hololive Japanese idol was going "huh, what was Japan doing here. Did they help Indonesia?" Her Hololive Indonesian peer quickly changed the subject
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catur4d Mar 27, 2026 +26
Do you have a clip of that?
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Stale_corn Mar 27, 2026 +53
[**https://youtu.be/fL56u\_encFE?t=3406**](https://youtu.be/fL56u_encFE?t=3406) **ollie and azki playing geoguesser**
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poxks Mar 27, 2026 +5
Btw, is there a source on what said idol actually meant? I looked at the source (linked in child comments: [【GeoGuessr】Travelling Indonesia with Ollie!【ホロライブ / AZKi / クレイジー・オリー】](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fL56u_encFE&t=3406s)), and I don't think it's as obvious as you're making it out. The transcript is roughly: え、なんかjepangのbunker? えっと、日本のバンカー?なんか、作ってたりする?日本も協力して作ってたりするのかな , which I'd loosely translate to Uh, something bunker of jepang? Umm, "バンカー" of Japan? Did "they" make something? I wonder if Japan cooperated with "them" to make ... (where what "they" and "them" refer to is not clear, maybe if I watched the entire video I might have a better guess, but obvious guess is them refers to Indonesia/ Indonesian people) and "バンカー" would typically refer to bunker in golf or banker. In Japanese we'd typically associate bunkers with 防空壕 (though on google search, I learned that the actual word is 掩体壕, which I... admittedly have never heard anyone use before). Given that she first says bunker jepang and then only translates the jepang part to 日本 (and didn't translate bunker), it's possible (arguably, more likely) she interpreted bunker to mean bunker in the golf sense. In that case, she's merely wondering if Japan (or a Japanese company) made a golf course with Indonesia (or an Indonesian company). It does seems like there are comments in the video that loosely say the same thing (both english and japanese comments), so the theory I'm suggesting does seem to be a possibility as well. Anyway, idk which is true (e.g., if she had a strong native english background, I wouldn't be surprised if she understood バンカー to mean bunker in the war shelter sense, in which case, your interpretation might be more weight. Or if she (or someone) later clarifies in the other parts of the video, I'm obviously wrong, since I'll admit I did not watch the entire video and only that clip). Either way, this was definitely an interesting exercise at understanding firsthand language barriers and how they can cause misunderstandings haha
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KafeiTomasu Mar 27, 2026 +33
Went to the Yasukuni shrine 2 weeks ago. The trials in Nurenberg weren't the only trials. They also wanted to have trials for Japan. They had considerably less resources and even less time to make it all happen compared to Nurenberg. This lead to a rather inconsiderate lineup of judges. The allied forces, and most of all the US, didnt want "fair" trials. They just wanted to skip to the verdict of guilty, obviously. But the poor checkup on the lineup of judges/jury also made Radhabinod Pal a present judge to represent India as country, which was, unbeknownst to the US, a huge Japan supporter. So, naturally he was quite troublesome in the trials, supporting Japan in any way he could. He is shown in the Yasukuni shrine as a saint, a true judgeful soul and a major icon of justice. It's really weird to see knowing Japan's practices in WWII.
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LMONDEGREEN Mar 27, 2026 +139
As someone who lives in Japan for over a decade, the people culturally really struggle with accountability on a individual level to a society level. Yes they are famous for apologising, but this is merely a facade. Life is one massive stage in Japan, and the Japanese play an act that dances to the rhythm their culture. In fact, it is called "plural ignorance" in psychology. Most Japanese people inside know better, but as a group, they behave this certain way to keep up appearances. Optics is everything here. And accountability is one massive way to lose face when everything is optical.
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Aware_Ratio_5488 Mar 27, 2026 -54
Where have you been living??? I've been in Japan over a decade and I find Japanese in general are way more accountable then we are in the west. I've had American and Japanese employees, big difference in accountability in work life too for Japanese. Don't get me wrong there definitely negatives in Japanese work culture too. And yeah they apologize and dont mean it, its better than screaming in strangers faces or throwing punches like we like seem to like to do now. Amd plural ignorance guess what every country has that
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LMONDEGREEN Mar 27, 2026 +59
It's all a song and dance. Trust me. Lived in Tokyo for 3 years, and Nagoya for 7 years I work for a Japanese company
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Ihavetogoalone Mar 27, 2026 +15
So the other guy is saying he lived there for over a decade, and you also say you lived there for over a decade, both your opinions are opposites, and you want your word to just be more true than his by simply saying “trust me”…
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Aware_Ratio_5488 Mar 27, 2026 +5
I know friends who been burnout out by Tokyo, was kind of thinking Tokyo for your. Nagoya i have not been, but little surprised, same experience and interaction as Tokyo for you there
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leihto_potato Mar 27, 2026 +45
Even in a thread like this, there are still Internet warriors ready to defend the mighty, superior nippon culture. Have a day off.
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Impressive-Potato Mar 27, 2026 +17
They newly elected PM is a nationalist... one that happily kisses Trump's b****.
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SigFloyd Mar 27, 2026 +3
And her reaction to the Pearl Harbor dig was pretty pathetic too
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Impressive-Potato Mar 28, 2026 +1
Japan is just a vassal state. All the US bases there with the us servicemen raping and murdering local girls and they do nothing about it. Of course the leader of Japan would just bow and giggle off any insults the US throws their way
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Shogouki Mar 27, 2026 +77
Last time I read a bit on this Japan didn't teach history covering from the early 20th century until after WWII in primary school. So unless students choose to study that era of history at university they'd be unaware of Imperial Japan's atrocities.
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Brilliant_Nothing Mar 27, 2026 +10
Because it‘s taught at the end of middle and in high school. It would make no sense as a primary school topic.
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SeparateFun1288 Mar 27, 2026 +7
is impressive how that comment is so upvoted, as we are teaching 8 years old about WWII in western countries lol
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Potential-Feline Mar 27, 2026 -30
Same as many western countries, I was out of school before I learned about just how bad a lot of stuff the UK did during the days of the empire was. Japan really isn't unique in the whitewashing of their history.
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leihto_potato Mar 27, 2026 +32
It absolutely isn't the same as the UK. I spent half a year in secondary school studying the transatlantic slave trade we actively participated in. Yes we don't cover every single atrocity in British history (there isn't time for it all), but we don't white wash the past or avoid teaching kids about difficult subjects where Britian is the bad guy.
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overthinkingmessiah Mar 27, 2026 +23
There’s a lot more public discourse around the atrocities of the British empire in Britain than there is of those of the Japanese empire in Japan. The West was forced to confront its past through post-colonialism, that movement never grew roots in Japan.
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isi_na Mar 27, 2026 +40
If you want to know how horrible it got, how dark and twisted, I can recommend reading about Unit 731. It's a part of Japan's history which seems to still be not talked about much. The most insane part...people directly involved in it continued to hold positions of power until the late 90s. Genuine warning: I watched a documentary about Unit 731 and it's really that disturbing
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Rude-Rain-3149 Mar 27, 2026 +5
It says "I did not start war." "America attacked us first" "There is no unit 731." etc etc
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Suicidaled Mar 27, 2026 +8
They're not? They've denied the history for this long, what's wrong with a lil bit more? 
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chokokhan Mar 27, 2026 +16
~~They were never forced to acknowledge it, in part because the US dropped the bombs. 2 wrongs don’t make a right but the unspoken agreement is no one rode the Japanese hard to teach proper history like they did the Nazis. They also didn’t have Nuremberg trials despite the US claiming the trials were for “humanity” to know there are repercussions for atrocities. I guess atrocities in Asia don’t count. So, hypocrisy on every level by the US.~~ But that was back 80 years ago. Japan could have decided to acknowledge their heinous crimes on their own and right their wrongs. Yet all they do is have hissy fits when someone puts up a monument to comfort women victims. It’s f****** embarrassing. And foreshadowing what side Japan would be on in case of another international conflict Edit: I was paraphrasing my college history class which apparently I should have fact checked cause I misremembered everything or it was wrong. I think my mind mixed up the fact that some of the human experimentation officers got away with it by sharing their data, and that “crimes against its own citizens in Taiwan and Korea since those were colonies at the time. But the Japanese defense do bring up the bombs and argued it’s not real justice, it’s a victor’s justice since America wouldn’t face the same charges for crimes against humanity. I haven’t heard of the Tokyo trials or the smaller tribunals till today and I’m sure we were wrongly taught Japan didn’t have a Nuremberg otherwise it wouldn’t have stayed with me. Still wrong is wrong. I wasn’t wrong on the attitude of the Japanese government today on acknowledging their heinous crimes. Everytime someone erects a statue, recently they put one up in San Francisco, the Japanese have a very public very unapologetic tantrum.
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Diligent_Tradition62 Mar 28, 2026 +1
In addition to everything you got wrong, you also used the Japanese propaganda term to minimise the atrocities inflicted women kidnapped and forced into sexual slavery. It's f****** embarrassing.
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chokokhan Mar 28, 2026 +1
[you dumb, homey?](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Francisco_Comfort_Women_Memorial)
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claytonbeaufield Mar 27, 2026 +3
It's so badly skewed, it's actually hard to even make friends with Japanese people. Once they get comfortable, they say some really awful things about Korea especially.
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jlharper Mar 27, 2026 +6
In a blues & rock bar in Akita, three Australians walked out of the rain, met the owner and asked for a bourbon. The owner excitedly struck up a conversation. He used to run a bar on the university campus, and had a lot of western guests in those days. Lately, he was forced to move and rarely has western guests now. He had a few customers who were older gentlemen, around their mid 60s. He asks me for a music request. I ask if he has any Michael Jackson or Chuck Berry. He laughs at the idea of playing Michael Jackson. "He's too young, we only have the good stuff". He put on Berry Is On Top. I was one of the Australians. I struck up a conversation with one of the nearby customers. I spoke some Japanese, and he spoke some English. We discussed our families, our histories. We arrived at the war. One of my companions mentioned that he had family who had served on the "wrong side". He perked up. "Nazi?!". "Yes." I admitted. My companions nodded sheepishly. We were all three aware of his family history. I will preface this by stating that I have no alignment with Nazi Germany, quite the opposite. The only good Nazi is a dead Nazi. Within moments, this man had removed his shirt. He became fired up. I thought we were going to fight. He hugged me and my companions in turn. "F*** the Chinese", he said. There was a fierceness in his eyes that I have rarely seen. He screamed an utterance in Japanese and the other two customers raised a glass in appreciation. I won't repeat what he said. I did a lot of research into the relationship between Japan and China that night and many nights since. It is as fascinating as any of the European relationships that underpinned WWI and WWII. Anyway, sorry for rambling. I guess this is a long way of saying a lot of us in the west may not appreciate the history of Japan or China and their relationship. It's convoluted and dark.
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hofdichter_og Mar 27, 2026 +23
What’s the gist of the story? A Japanese upon hearing a descendant of Nazi Germans got so excited to hug him and say “F*** the Chinese”… because Japan was part of the Axis with Nazi Germany??!! That’s beyond fucked up.
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Novel_Second5151 Mar 27, 2026 +60
Not sure China has done anything in history that deserves so much hatred from Japan…
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hahaz13 Mar 27, 2026 +29
Yeah wtf Pretty much every issue anyone has with Japan is extremely one sided except maybe Russia. Tf is this guy talking about “convoluted”.
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NullOfUndefined Mar 27, 2026 +2
For the same reason the US still does it
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CapitalEmployer Mar 27, 2026 +1
They are like Israel, not a ounce of self reflection they are the good guys and for them the only bad thing that happened is what was done to them not what they did. Nazism never really ended in Japan. We should have cleaned the country after the war.
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RealityNecessary2023 Mar 27, 2026 +1
On top of that, the south korean elites were japanese sympathizers, as the US army kept them in power after the independence, as they were educated and easy to control. And the decendents of those elites are running the modern day south korean politics. So the ramanents of Imperial Japan still shape the bigger part of what and how South korea is.
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Mammoth_Newt5148 Mar 27, 2026 +1
My boss retired from the navy as an admiral. The other day we were talking about the meeting between Trump and the Japan prime minister. He then proceeds to tell me when he was station in Hawaii, his job was to do tours for state visits etc. He was doing a pearl harbor and a Japanese woman approached him, crying and said "im so sorry that this happened. I didnt even know that this happened".
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kl122002 Mar 27, 2026 +1
From the Japanese i know back in 1990s, who were over 80s know the war, clear and know what happened at that time. But later gens, like today, they see it just like an "event". They don't understand how it started and why it started completely.
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cieje Mar 28, 2026 +1
to remove the history of what the Japanese did to the s Koreans
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HorrorGameWhite Mar 27, 2026 -2
Depend on when and the people and where they learn. But the general idea is that Japanese people's learning about WW2 is the same as American with their colonization of NA towards the natives. In a nutshell, it's too bad things happened and move on
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pepehandreee Mar 27, 2026 +305
To the surprise of absolute no one, lol. Japan was pushing for it when there is a more “classic” conservative in charge. What makes people think they won’t keep pushing further under a far right government, especially when said far right government wins super majority?
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sigmapilot Mar 27, 2026 +19
Totally incorrect it's incredibly small, basically 2 square inches in area, there are 0 valuable fishing and minerals South Korea has maintained complete de facto control continuously for the past 80 years and yet there are 0 resource extractions there Koreans would honestly rather burn ever drop of natural gas in their country than cede an inch of territory to Japan
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Charming-Ad-8198 Mar 27, 2026 +8
Shh Listnook weebs don’t wanna hear it
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JY0950 Mar 27, 2026 +333
Why is Japan being let off the hook compared to Germany?
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mr_WhatzitTooya___ Mar 27, 2026 +129
Soft power
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themeanreds1 Mar 27, 2026 +41
Uhh no the soft power did not come until after they were already let off the hook. It was due to the US government needing an ally in the pacific in wake of the Cold War, so they let them off the hook.
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fancczf Mar 27, 2026 +19
Also victims of Japan do not have a strong voice in the western world. If germany puts hitler as a saint in a cathedral every politician in the western world will hear of it. Whatever japan does, and what Asian country complains about wont even make news in any western mass media.
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OneBurnerStove Mar 27, 2026 +65
Real response. Because kawaii
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NaelNull Mar 27, 2026 +21
They were - still are - USA's unsinkable aircraft carrier against "commies".
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dennis-w220 Mar 27, 2026 +10
I think partly because they invaded and brutalized Asian nations instead of European nations, and they killed millions of Asians instead of Jews. The awareness level in the west particularly is not at the same level.
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zennim Mar 27, 2026 +18
Nuclear bombs.
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DariusStrada Mar 27, 2026 +2
Anime titties
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Aware_Ratio_5488 Mar 27, 2026 +4
Everyone was let off the hook except for Germany. You dont think allied forces murdered civilians, tortured prisoners, etc. It was war, everyone did horrible stuff. Now you want to pick n choose which countries to be on the hook instead looking at everyone in the war.
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JY0950 Mar 27, 2026 +6
Not as long as the Japanese. Japan started her acts before all of Europe exploded.
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mph1204 Mar 27, 2026 +3
yea italians definitely did lmao. barely ever hear about the italian fascists anymore
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SeparateFun1288 Mar 27, 2026 +1
>Why **is** Japan Because you can't exactly force other countries? I mean, what are you suggesting? gunboat diplomacy? last time we did that we basically created the Empire of Japan...
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JY0950 Mar 27, 2026 +7
Because u wrote their constitution
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JY0950 Mar 27, 2026 +4
and Macarthur spared the emperor.
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chronoic Mar 27, 2026
America. That's why they need America to stay in power. If America loses control. China and South Korea will collect on their ass, and I think they know it too.
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wowlock_taylan Mar 27, 2026 +119
I mean seeing who they elected...It is not surprising that Japan took this turn. It will only end badly.
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LegitimateWind1675 Mar 27, 2026 +8
How will it end?
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Carb0ncreature Mar 27, 2026 +38
Badly
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diejesus Mar 27, 2026 +2
It's going to suck
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SpeedRac3rr Mar 27, 2026 +8
I had a really close Japanese friend that had moved to the US after middle school. When we were in highschool I learned about the r*** of Nanking and what the Japanese had done to the Chinese, I asked him about it and he said that he had never learned about any of that and nobody ever talked about it 
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KeyTruth5326 Mar 27, 2026 +199
Why are there so few comments on this post? Has the glorification of Japan really reached this level?
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Bovoduch Mar 27, 2026 +153
It’s more likely that this just isn’t interesting news to a lot of people in the midst of current events
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Valtremors Mar 27, 2026 +13
Yeah I guess. This is badically kindling compared to the millionth oil war USA is committing.
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Evenstar6132 Mar 27, 2026 +72
Unless you've been living under a rock for the past 30 years, this is hardly "news"
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XCPuff Mar 27, 2026 +19
It was posted when most of the site base are sleeping.
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-Orcrist Mar 27, 2026 +4
Exactly. It boils my blood that somehow Japanese "culture" is being taught as some divine knowledge by the media and content creators. All this bullshit of acting like a goof and being faux gentle is irritating af given the history of Japan.
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VarmintSchtick Mar 27, 2026 +4
If that makes you angry, wait till you find out that Mongolia has a gigantic f***-off statue dedicated to the most prolific genocider in the history of the world, Genghis Khan.
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AtooZ Mar 27, 2026 +1
that is an amazing monument
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Raidoton Mar 27, 2026 +4
Why do you cry about the comments instead of just commenting on the news itself?
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auchinleck917 Mar 27, 2026 +2
Isn't it because he wanted Listnookors to mention Unit 731 and Japanese war crimes and then conclude that Japan is still a fascist country?
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Aware_Ratio_5488 Mar 27, 2026 +1
Because its not really relevant news. They are upset over the adjectives used when army took korean women and dates used over land rights they been arguing over 100yrs on
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CopainChevalier Mar 27, 2026 +3
Yeah
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ppp-- Mar 27, 2026 +76
Lived in Japan with kids in the local school system, I think there's some nuance to this, the enemy of every average listnookor... It's not like they're teaching h******* pro-imperialist revisionism. The bigger issue is the framing, they tend to use language very carefully chosen to give the impression that Japan was kind of railroaded into making bad decisions, rather than being the active aggressor. And while things like the Nanjing Massacre, Comfort Women, Korean forced labor, and the post-Kanto Earthquake purges do get mentioned, they're glossed over without much detail. Also all of that stuff lands right at the tail end of the curriculum, when students are focused on entrance exams, so it doesn't get a lot of airtime in class either. From talking to Asian friends, the thing that really gets to them is actually the indifference. Most Japanese people aren't out here claiming these things didn't happen, they just don't really give a shit really. That said, there's also zero genuine interest from China or Korea's leaders in actually reaching closure on any of this, because it's a very convenient card to play whenever the government needs to distract the populace from domestic or economic issues.
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MeadowMellow_ Mar 27, 2026 +61
The issue isnt just how minimal the curriculum is about what Imperial Japan committed onKorea and China, its also the complete erasure of what they did to other South-East Asian nations like the Philippines. Bet those books dont even mention the Manila Massacre and it was just as bad as Nanjing if not for the scale.
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maple_story_ Mar 27, 2026 +5
> just as bad as Nanjing if not for the scale. this can be said for ALL the countries they ever invaded. In each one of them they committed atrocities and war crimes, from sexual slavery, massacres, human experimentations, torture, starvation and forced labour. They were extremely sadistic towards every non-Japanese they encountered. All in, the sum of what the Japanese did are way more fucked up than what the nazis did. The holocaust had around 6 million jewish victims, while total victims of nazis is around 11 million. Meanwhile, total victims of Japan's war crimes are around 30 million. Nearly 3x the amount of all of nazi war crimes.. And those numbers are from just the death counts alone. Now if you take into consideration the millions of people who had gone through what the japanese did all the same but just did not end up dying (just mentally/physically scarred/maimed for the rest of their lives no biggie).. Yeah in terms of *evil*, the nazis actually pale in comparison to the japanese..
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Waffletimewarp Mar 27, 2026 +14
Wow, sounds like how US history is taught here. That isn’t a compliment.
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Beardmanta Mar 27, 2026 +12
Idk about your school/state, but my curriculum in California heavily covered things like Trail of tears, slavery, and Reconstruction issues.
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Aoba_Napolitan Mar 27, 2026 +4
There was a movement to cover more of this stuff for a while but now there's strong MAGA push back because apparently recognizing it is "woke".
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AprilsStuff Mar 28, 2026 +1
Yeah same
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SeparateFun1288 Mar 27, 2026 +8
>And while things like the Nanjing Massacre, Comfort Women, Korean forced labor, and the post-Kanto Earthquake purges do get mentioned, they're glossed over without much detail. Which is still most than almost every other country in the earth does... Except for Germany. Is really stupidly hard for people to understand that Germany is the exception to the rule.
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AustinYun Mar 27, 2026 +1
Japanese textbooks be like "300,000 people died in the war in Nanking" making you think oh yeah war is bad that really sucks. Then not mention that it was 299,000 Chinese civilians and 1000 Japanese soldiers lmao. Less than half of Japanese believe Japan was an aggressor in WW2 ffs. Just last week NHK ran a massive poll and almost 50% of Japanese stated they "didn't know" whether they were the aggressors or not, with only 1/3 saying yes. That doesn't sound like "indifference" to me.
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PriorCraft6238 Mar 28, 2026 +1
I am not sure about the Chinese government, but I am curious about what means the South Korean government should use to persuade Japan. It is a fact that among South Korean politicians, there are those who use this issue merely as a means to gain votes. However, there are also many who do not. On the other hand, Japanese politicians are very firm regarding this issue, so by what means can South Korea change their minds? We do not have the authority to punish them. Even if we try to gain support from Western society, Western countries are reluctant to confront Japan or consider them an important partner for containing China, so they do not want more conflict than necessary. of course, there is also the point that Western countries themselves might believe that publicly aligning with such actions of reflecting on the misdeeds of their own imperialist eras does not align with their national interests. If that is the case, it ultimately means Japan can behave however it wants. To be honest, I think it is a very lazy analysis.
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Boone_Slayer Mar 27, 2026 +3
any country erasing or glossing over bad parts of its history should be seen as a bad thing.
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Charming-Ad-8198 Mar 27, 2026 +8
Lol, this is the same country that still proudly flies what is essentially their version of the Hakenkreuz, after spending decades sucking colonies dry across Asia. But sure, they get a pass because anime and Cool Japan did one hell of a rebrand. Oh, and the irony of Cool Japan? Japan loves pushing the narrative that Hallyu is only big because the Korean government pumps money into it — meanwhile Cool Japan literally outspent Korea on soft power promotion and still flopped harder. But hey, Listnook doesn’t wanna hear that lmao
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Similar_Rapier_7596 Mar 27, 2026 +4
It should be "lament" instead of "regret."
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auchinleck917 Mar 27, 2026 +2
Regret is the most strongest word in East Aisa.
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Cool-Principle1643 Mar 28, 2026 +1
I am amazed how so many people know everything about Japan and the Japanese people.
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superkeer Mar 27, 2026 +1
I don't think any imperialist or colonial nation is in a position to judge how the Japanese look at their own history. The US has been regressing further and further into whitewashing its own history with each generation. We nearly wiped out the native population and teach it in school as something called "Manifest Destiny."
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IceCreamValley Mar 28, 2026 +1
I think Japan has a right to decide how they educate their kids. Same for all countries. These days its not like there are many superior system judging by how all the democraties are decaying. 
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Puzzleheaded_Run21 Mar 27, 2026 -64
When will the South Korean books talk about the atrocities they committed during the Vietnam war?
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Competitive-Lab-6600 Mar 27, 2026 +25
Always whataboutism with you people. Stop deflecting
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Mister_Six Mar 27, 2026 +39
Yeah we basically don't teach the Empire back in the UK under compulsory education.
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leihto_potato Mar 27, 2026 +6
Yes we do.
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Mister_Six Mar 27, 2026
Except we kind of don't though.
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leihto_potato Mar 27, 2026
It's a compulsory part of key stage 3 education to cover some of the empire
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Mister_Six Mar 27, 2026 +1
Yes ok and 'some of the Empire is where that 'pretty much' in my original statement comes in. Having been through it myself it was mentioned briefly and peripherally, only when I chose history at A Level did we teach Ireland for example.
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johnk419 Mar 27, 2026 +23
The vast majority of Koreans already know about the Vietnam War, there is zero effort to hide it. South Korean court ruled in favor of family of victims, recent presidents of South Korea has openly apologized for the war, there is no effort to hide the history of the Vietnam War in Korean textbooks. What more do you want?
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iknsw Mar 27, 2026 +24
Clearly you don't know the facts and are just repeating Japanese denialists' arguments. Koreans already do so, and the Korean government has numerous times requested to offer joint investigations and apologies to Vietnam, which have always been blocked by the Vietnamese government themselves. Also, there's absolutely no comparison with the war crimes that individual military units of Korea (and the US) did while those countries were defending South Vietnam from the invading Vietcong, compared to the state-sanctioned mass genocides and rapes of hundreds of thousands that Japan did while trying to conquer all of Asia and is now trying to whitewash.
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Evenstar6132 Mar 27, 2026 +48
They already do? Most South Koreans already know about the atrocities. The only ones denying them are far right groups. The same people deny the Jeju massacre and Gwangju massacres btw, so they're hardly representative of the average South Korean.
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PriorCraft6238 Mar 27, 2026 -17
These people are not interested in the facts. They act as if Korea behaved as though the Vietnam War was right and there were no massacres, but Koreans have easy access to such historical facts, and unlike Japanese people, they have a lot of interest in history, and it is safe to say that there are almost no Korean politicians who make remarks or behave in a way that provokes Vietnam. It is simply water-muddying by stupid Japanese right-wingers or Weeb.
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PriorCraft6238 Mar 27, 2026 +23
South Korean presidents have continuously apologized to the Vietnamese government, and the Vietnamese government does not want it to grow.
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Outrageous-Opinions Mar 27, 2026 +11
Anytime this is brought up you get people mad and using the same excuses Japan uses, highlighting the hypocrisy.
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Arthur_Menzies Mar 27, 2026 +1
How about the fact these textbooks also don't talk about the 1 to 2 million Viets killed by the Japanese during their occupation in WW2?
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Puzzleheaded_Run21 Mar 28, 2026 +1
Absolutely atrocious. I live in vietnam
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soragranda Mar 27, 2026
Talk about hypocrisy... they also revisited theirs about Vietnam war.
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